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mmmhh interesting take indeed, I kind of see what you mean but honestly can't say I completely agree either!

I think it's a bit unfair to act like Natsuo half-assed it because he couldn't handle being around his father, when he was doing it to be kind to his sister and clearly loves her enough to at least attempt to be around a man that triggers him. It's unfair to assume he doesn't love her enough because of that! Also, if Natsuo's unfair for not being able to handle being around his father, then we shouldn't leave Fuyumi out of this because it's unfair to put her brother in this position too (I understand he could reject, but that's it he's kind, he's trying for his sisters sake). Especially when she knows how he feels and she passes his feelings off as him not letting bygones be bygones - said bygones being years of abuse/neglect, Touya's "death" and their mothers hospilisation!

Can't agree with abandoning his family part when he clearly didn't abandoned them completely, if he's still attempting those dinners and we know he cut-contact with Enji but he may keep in contact with the others. It also feels a bit icky saying he abandoned his family because at a young age 19(barely an adult), he went to college and got out of a toxic environment. Why should he stay in that toxic enviroment? when that won't help the situation.

The no-contact and having serious ramifications is definitely a possibility, and I guess if he was as strict with his no-contact being not even wanting to be in the same space then sure that could prove to be some problems BUT also on one hand it could also provide no problems! There are so many families out there in the world where two family members may not be on speaking terms or don't get along, but can still attend the same gatherings, funerals and weddings etc. abut choose to not interact with one another. Just because Natsuo has gone no-contact with Enji does not mean he cannot attend Fuyumi's or Shouto's wedding at all, he can simply attend and not interact with Enji because it's not even Enji's day so why would they even have to interact anyways? they wouldn't, and if Enji's true about his words of respecting his kids choices he'll choose to not bug Natsuo! A funeral it's the same thing, they do not have to interact but can still attend it. The literal compromise in these situations can literally be - Enji staying out of his way, they don't have to interact at these occasions! Also who says Natsuo has to visit Rei? she could easily visit him? or they can arrange to meet up at a resturant/cafe for a drink right? There's no rule saying those two can arrange around it, and if Rei wants to respect her child's wishes she would be willing to do so!

Natsuo is more like his father than he wants to admit...and it is both tragic and unsettling.

He does what he wants without regard for what the people around him want.

Sure, he'll go along with certain requests, like going to the family dinner because Fuyumi asked him to.

However, rather than be a polite host, he decides he'd rather embarrass his sister by being angry at their father all through said dinner and making things awkward for their guests. He didn't have to be there. Whoever he's talking to on the phone after the fact, maybe the girlfriend, he apologizes for bailing on their plans. He didn't even have to white-lie to Fuyumi. He straight up had other plans that night. So there are two ways you could look at this:

He conceded to a request to support his sister...then half-assed it.

Or he canceled his plans and went out of his way to be a prick.

He's not wrong for hating his father, that is 100% a normal reaction to an abusive parent, but he is wrong for not establishing his own concrete boundaries or respecting Fuyumi's.

Like Endeavor, Natsuo is pretty isolated within the family.

Mom’s out of the picture and contact with her is limited.

We all know what his relationship with his father is like.

His closest sibling 'died' when they were kids, but even then, Touya and Natsuo's relationship wasn't a good one. We know Touya spent years trauma-dumping on Natsuo, and little bro took it like a champ. Supporting one's siblings like that is admirable, but it does highlight a key difference between the brothers. Touya has memories of a happy childhood with their father. Natsuo does not. So he had to listen to his older brother crying for a past he knows nothing about, which had to have brought on a little resentment. "At least Dad loved you once. I never even got that much."

As stated above, Natsuo doesn't see eye to eye with Fuyumi. At least not enough that he respects her decision to forgive their father. Whether he supports that decision or not, he should love his sister more than he hates their father, and starting shit unprovoked over a dinner she asked him to be at is not a supportive decision.

His relationship with Shouto is hard to gauge. They were raised apart, sure, but they lived in the same house. So the fact that he didn't know Shouto's favorite food until he was fifteen is...odd. Natsuo never tried to have a conversation with him in passing? But I have a theory about that. With how Shouto behaved in the very beginning of the series, the mirror-image of their arrogant father, I think Natsuo had a, “Fuck, now there’s two of them," moment and actively avoided association with his younger brother. This may have contributed to him moving out even though he attends a college that's close enough that that he can casually stop by for dinner.

He Actually Does Get Violent.

Not with other people, thankfully, but he does slam his fist against the door in this scene, which is an act of aggression.

This makes for an intense moment in animation, sure, but if you saw a person do this in real life, you’d be nervous about where that fist is going next.

I already went over this in the Endeavor analysis that I made a few months back, but the gist of it is taking out your anger on inanimate objects is unhealthy because you're training your brain to associate anger with violence, which has the potential to make it harder to dissociate in the long run.

In his own way, he did abandon his family.

Fuyumi tells him to leave the family circumstances to her....and he just left her to it? She went to college to become a teacher and made a career work in spite of living in a volatile home. The series doesn't say where Natsuo is a student at, but he clearly lives close enough to home that he can drop by for a visit, so it's not like he went to some prestigious university out of town.

So yeah. Left his remaining brother and sister to their father.

The other point, though, is he's canonically studying medical welfare.

Medical welfare is the consideration of patient wellbeing, preserving individual dignity, promoting quality of life, and taking a holistic approach to healthcare that applies mental and emotional care to a patient, not just physical.

So it's ironic this is where his brother ends up and he says absolutely nothing about it. Nothing about promising to come see him, nothing about asking the staff if this really the best arrangement they could come up with, no promises to Touya that he'll figure something out. He just ghosts and, like their father, that is really hypocritical.

In the end, he puts his own hate and feelings above everyone else’s.

This one's pretty closely related to my first point, but it does bear reiterating for the finale. Natsuo's decision to never see his father again is ultimately going to hurt his family more than it's going to spite Endeavor.  Going no-contact is a healthy choice and I don’t fault him for it at all.  But if he sticks to it, it’s going to lead to some serious ramifications down the road.

If he's strict enough to refuse to be in the same vicinity as Endeavor:

He won’t attend Touya’s funeral and support his grieving mother and siblings if Endeavor will be there.

Since we see in the epilogue Rei stays with Endeavor, Natsuo visiting her is going to be complicated.

If Fuyumi gets married, she might want her father at the wedding. Is Natsuo going to skip his sister’s wedding out of spite?

If Shouto gets married and decides to let their father be there, same story.

If Endeavor outlives Rei, will Natsuo miss her funeral?

And finally, Natsuo might have to come to terms with the fact his own children may want to meet their grandfather, which is a decision he can only control until they’re legal adults.  He can tell them how much of a monster Endeavor was all he wants, but those kids may still be curious about meeting the man in person, especially if they hear stories from other family members and know the former No. 2 and No. 1 is their grandfather.

I’m not saying Natsuo should forgive Endeavor, or even stop being angry with him because he has every right to his anger. But if he still wants a relationship with the rest of the family, he is going to have to exercise some form of compromise.  Especially with his children because he unfortunately has all the hallmarks to become the next Kotaro Shimura. This is a society where kids want to be heroes, and then there's Natsuo who has a history with the dark side of hero society, no matter the good Shouto does.

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Hi hello this is your unfriendly reminder since some people still wanna claim Touya wasn't physically abused (as if emotional abuse and neglect aren't as damaging) this is physical abuse

Y'all know physical abuse isn't just hitting / kicking / beating right? Putting your hands on a child in an aggressive manner out of anger is physical abuse by definition. Grabbing a kid by the shoulders and shaking him while yelling on his face is physical abuse. Grabbing a kid up by the arm and yanking his shirt up is physical abuse. It doesn't matter if it's out of concern or if Enji loves him. Can we stop writing this off? He's putting his hands on a kid out of anger, that's literally physical abuse, bucko.

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“He literally got his family to forgive him” 💀 when can this fandom please learn to STOP ignoring CANON! His family didn’t forgive him, at least not all of them Natsuo quite literally 1) cut contact with that man and 2) quite literally STATED his feelings have not changed, said feelings that he would never forgive Enji!

“He’s the reason the family is together” nope 🙂‍↔️ he plays a part sure but we can hardly say the family is TOGETHER when Natsuo pulled out once they stopped Touya, Touya died and the narrative literally tells us that Shouto is/was the family hero AND he is also the major reason the family was able to be together to visit Touya - Enji himself literally said we should thank Shouto for giving the family time! BECAUSE if we had Enji’s way(and Touya’s) they would have been at a funeral for those two, and the family would not be together so let’s all say THANK YOU SHOUTO!

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Endeavor/Enji Todoroki and Dabi/Touya Todoroki basically 💔😭!

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Thank you so much ☺️ I’ve always been a bit confuddled with this!

Sorry I’m probably nitpicking here but didn’t he say he’d be fine to his mother first then his father??

I’ve always been confused on how these bubbles work, but I assume the mom being in the second bubble being the first name he called and the the father being in the bubble with the thing pointing to Shouto’s mouth signals the second name!

Don't worry!

The Japanese language is written in vertical columns, with the columns being read right to left and top to bottom.

This means the text would be read like this:

balloons needs to be read like this:

When they translate a manga they turn the text from vertical to orizontal so you read it basically like this:

Another hint that mom comes after father is that it's written lower than father.

It might help you more to see it in Japanese. Remember? Right to left and top to bottom.

Shouto first says Oyaji, which is the word at your right, and then okaasan.

I hope it helps!

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"no country cancels a celeb as fast as Japan"

yeah unless your a major P-do mangaka then you get slap on a wrist, and your work gets celebrated with other managaka's praise the ground you walk on 😒😒😒 yeah they're so good at cancelling people right???

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Mel protecting Jayce with her powers, and Jayce coming to her aid.

⸻   JAYCE TALIS & MEL MEDARDA, Arcane Season 2

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Toya birthday fanart by numamao0707

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Ico

Shadow of the Colossus

The Last Guardian

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So, apparently it’s not valid to hate Endeavor/Enji Todoroki for his abuse???

So, I guess if it’s not valid to hate Enji for his abuse, then it’s a good thing that I hate him for that god awful flame beard then ain’t it 😂🤣/j!

Honestly, silly joke aside I actually don’t hate Enji I use to, but I actually came to like him after the hospital scene. However, I think it’s pretty valid like 100% valid to hate Enji for his abuse, and that’s the MOST valid reason to hate him. Just like it’s valid to love him for his atonement/redemption arc, and it’s like how can it not be valid to hate someone for abuse? I get he went through an atonement arc, and is vowing to change but that doesn’t mean people are not allowed to hate/dislike him still! It’s valid to hate him for the abuse, as it’s just as valid to hate Dabi(or LOV in general) for murder/terrorism, or Bakugou for bullying.

Nonetheless, valid hatred for a fictional character or not, we all have our opinions. I personally don’t think you need a valid reason to hate a fictional character, some characters just don’t vibe for you and that’s cool, and vice versa you don’t need a valid reasons to like a character either!

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“Touya was evil from the start, he tried to kill baby Shouto”

People when the clearly neglected/emotionally neglected and abused child, riddled with unhealthy jealousy doesn't act morally correct:

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Daily reminder:

That Shouto Todoroki has a character sheet, Natsuo Todoroki has a character sheet, Fuyumi Todoroki has a character sheet, Enji Todoroki has a character sheet, Dabi/Touya Todoroki has some character information sheets on him too and hell even Enji’s driver has a character BUT I guess fuck Rei Todoroki because clearly she doesn’t deserve one 🙄 even though she’s a much more of an important character to the story than Enji’s damn chauffeur!

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Honestly, gotta love the fact that I’m apparently a lost cause because *looks at notes* I don’t think we should compare, downplay or level up abuse like it’s a Pokémon game or the olympics!

The absolute outlandish thought to think I believe neglect is worse than physical abuse, but that’s NOT what I was implying or saying. I was simply saying it’s wrong to level up abuse or compare it like it’s the olympics 🙄 whether abuse is physical, mental, emotional or negligence it’s abuse - and abuse is abuse! I don’t think we should compare or downplay any of the Todoroki kids abuse/trauma, you’ll never hear me say “Shouto had it worse than Touya” or “Touya had is worse than Shouto” because abuse isn’t a competition!

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BNHA promo sketch by Noriko Morishima x

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Fanart by yusenden

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Natsuo - "I'm cutting your from my life dad, I have chosen to go full no contact"

Some rando on X - "Natsuo's a man-child who wants his Daddy's attention"

Last time I checked if your cutting contact from your father, and basically not having him in your life that screams more to me - DOESN'T WANT HIS FATHER'S ATTENTION!

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I genuinely think they should have put All Might there instead of Endeavor:

I don’t mean this as hate towards him, this isn’t actually me saying this because I hate him or dislike him but LOOK:

Genuinely has me thinking “fuck that I choose the villain” 😭 like he has such a aggressive and dark look on his face, and most definitely doesn’t make me feel like I want to take that hand because why’s he so…angry so menacing! He’s like “Take my hand civilian 😡🤬”!