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DELTARUNE CHAPTER 3 AND 4 SPOILERS

Deltarune: First hero is the player and Kris is a mole theory

Ok so I haven’t seen a theory similar to this being discussed anywhere so I’m posting this to put in my two cents ig AKSVSKDGKDHD

When we see the first prophecy in Susie’s dark world something stood out to me about the description of the first hero:

Many people thought this made sense for Kris: considering Kris as “the cage” that holds the human soul. Although I kinda thought the opposite when I first read this. If we think of “the cage” as a more metaphorical thing instead, doesn’t the soul make much more sense as the first hero??

A cage prevents you from roaming free. Yeah, Kris holding the soul could count as Kris being “the cage” since we can’t roam as freely as we did when we were controlling the soul outside Kris’ body. But possessing Kris doesn’t inhibit the souls freedom; we can go anywhere, talk to anyone, CHOOSE to do anything. We’re anything but trapped. But Kris can’t choose to do anything freely unless they tear the soul out of their body. Doing anything to escape the cage, even if it breaks their wings (If that makes any sense AKSHSKDHKDHD). It just makes MUCH more sense that the soul, AKA the player, is what’s being inferred by “the cage”.

And also, ofc the player would have a human soul (The little heart that we control) and parts, cause yk everyone playing deltarune is human (probably…. Hopefully)

It also just makes more sense that the soul is the first hero??? I mean like if we FULLY separate the actions the soul takes by itself and the action Kris takes by themselves. The soul has done a lot more hero-y things by itself. Like in the sealing the fountain sequences; the soul practically separates itself from Kris for a second to seal the fountain, kinda inferring the soul is the only thing that can seal a fountain. Not to mention the fact the soul literally EMINATES light which weakens the titans and its weird little fetus’. Like just by the visuals of that whole ass sequence it’s clear the soul is the one emanating the light and not Kris, right ?? Like if the souls light is truly the MAIN thing weakening the darkness’ attacks, and sealing the fountains, then idk it’s just seems like the soul is truly the thing the prophecy is referencing as one of the “saviors” ig.

I guess in the end Kris IS technically the first hero, but mostly by proxy since they hold the soul, but them, separate from the player, are not the first hero.

That brings me to another speculation, (which may be a little obvious but, sshhhhh, I like explaining my thought process) that the soul we control isn’t Kris’ soul at all. It was meant to be for the vessel, a thing that didn’t have a whole ass life and personality before the soul took over. Which really makes me think, where the hell is Kris’ actual soul????

Well idk the answer to that, but I might know why they were given THIS soul. I believe they were given this soul to be a mole for the heroes of the prophecy. So that way they technically ARE meant to be there (only cause of the soul) but also kinda aren’t cause, yk, that soul isn’t theirs. Whoever Kris is working for, it’s pretty clear they’re very against the prophecy and the heroes going into (and sealing) the dark world in the shelter. So what’s a better plan than literally having someone on the inside tracking and preventing the heroes plans ???

This ofc makes the soul possessing Kris the only choice we DIDNT get to choose.

Ofc Kris can’t really do much about messing up the heroes plans when the soul is controlling them. But when it’s not, it’s pretty clear they’re going somewhere after becoming unpossessed, which in my opinion they’re going to the shelter and ratting on the heroes plans to whoever is the mastermind of this.

So yeah, bro’s living a double life as the hero of the prophecy (only cause they hold the soul) and as a prophecy hater for some reason.

Although it’s very clear Kris is really fond of Susie and Ralsei now, so I suspect their loyalty for whoever gave them this soul will become brittle.

Also I think Ralsei definitely knows that the soul is meant to be the hero and whoever is holding it isn’t. Although I don’t think he knows the soul the player controls isn’t Kris’ soul.

Or maybe he does since he talks to Kris while the soul is distracted with Susie. Idk

Low-key I don’t want to believe Ralsei is STILL keeping quiet about things even after the events of chapter 4 in which Susie literally digs at him for it AKHSKSHDKDHDK

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Deltarune theory:

This is a theory that I just thought of while replaying deltarune with very minimal evidence BUT IDC

My theory is that the project Gaster was working on in undertale (the one that ended up destroying him) was to open up a dark world.

I mean, one of his catchphrases is literally “dark, darker yet darker” when talking about his new project.

The underground was overpopulated and everyone practically relied on the barrier breaking to solve this. Alphys took on a project to help break the barrier by trying to replicate a human soul (or at least a boss monsters soul) by injecting determination into a monster. What if Gaster took on a similar project, but instead of focusing on the barrier, he focused on leaving the underground (or at least alleviating the overpopulation) through another method.

Which is through the dark world ofc.

We know from chapter 2 that to create a fountain it takes will and determination. We know that monsters that have determination melt. So maybe Gaster is all melted and stuff cause making a dark world fountain takes determination. He either got stuck in a dark world or dude got himself shattered trying to make one.

He is described to be shattered across time and space. This might be a shot in the dark; but what if the shadow crystals we collect from fighting the secret enemies in the deltarune chapters become Gaster when put together. This might be wrong tho cause Gaster is a lightner, but when we bring the shadow crystals to the light world they are just described as shattered glass. Meaning the shadow crystals only pertain to the dark world. This is also assuming undertale Gaster and deltarune Gaster are the same.

Not assuming undertale Gaster and deltarune Gaster are the same. What if undertale Gaster is just a version of him that didn’t succeed in making a dark world, deltarune Gaster being one that did. Probably cause he didn’t use himself to make a fountain, cause he has Kris to help him do that. His reasons for this I’m not really sure tho.

This might be an already established theory that I’m not aware of since I usually don’t look through deltarune theories. So sorry if it is!! ^^’’’