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the persona alignment is crucial here. since the point is releasing inhibitions, only repressed ppl get persona /hj

so

joker = dokja

ryuji = sooyoung

ann = sangah

im thinking on a lot. not sure who i would want akechi to be. but ik for sure that who futaba is gonna be is gonna make or break these assignments

kimcom persona 5 au where kim dokja does get arrested for killing his dad and starts fresh at jung heewon's bar

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he's living in the attic of her rundown bar. namgung minyoung is a regular who harrasses him. bihyung is mona

kimcom persona 5 au where kim dokja does get arrested for killing his dad and starts fresh at jung heewon's bar

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kimcom persona 5 au where kim dokja does get arrested for killing his dad and starts fresh at jung heewon's bar

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omniscient reader's viewpoint // everything everywhere all at once

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excuse me, they used chatgpt to promote WHAT

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Y'know the only thing I want for the ORV LA to do right? It's to deal with Kim Dokja and his mother's issues with grace and maturity. To deal with their story with the justice it deserves. No beating around the bush, no immediate reconciliation, just a proper conversation between them both. It'll be a good subplot where while both is forced to adapt to the apocalypse, their shared rocky past will make the journey ahead difficult.

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bihyung but he says "im so big and round today 🫃🏽" like salty dk dan in this mario party jamboree session

why did they fill bihyung with orbeez....

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why did they fill bihyung with orbeez....

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immortality as theft (you have to steal life from something else) immortality as parasitism (there is something else inside You that is keeping you alive and you become less of yourself more and more the longer it stays in you) immortality as violence (everything is trying to kill you because everything is supposed to die and the universe will always try to find a way to right the wrong that is You) you understand

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I had a lot of fun with this! It gave me the chance to study the art of some of the artists I admire...and also it's kind of fun to see the variety of stuff I read

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@solcarow tags (in case the image doesnt load) from this post:

#why did they have to make her look downright sinister it was an incredibly nuanced conversation .. #would've been nice if they concealed both of their expressions

literally half the reason it pissed me off (the other half being the sheer disrespect they put on her for even thinking abt making her look sinister).

i've been genuinely against the idea of adapting orv into visual formats specifically bc i think you shouldn't be able to see dokja's emotions so clearly (half the point of the irony of "omniscient reader's" viewpoint). but also bc it removes the unreliability to dokja's narration.

like the manhwa can say, sure, it's in dokja's pov so he sees his mother as sinister. but it's not in dokja's pov, bc even if his monologues engulf most of the scenes, a lot of his flawed descriptions and misunderstandings don't end up visualized to be up for interpretation.

in this specific scene, sookyung has that unfortunate and self-deprecating smile on her face, the one dokja often makes. she's hurt that dokja doesn't love her the most, but she expected as much after she spent so much time away from him, neglecting him.

and dokja expects a confrontation and is discomfited and annoyed with how... depressed and self-defeated it made her seem to find out he didn't love her back. "I got goosebumps. Why was she suddenly saying [I love you]? ... [One] corner of my heart ached. Did she really believe that such words were acceptable? A decade's worth of suffering alone couldn't be denied because of these words ... Even if it was true, it was painful enough to be called false."

and that's just monologue from his end. he doesn't describe the way sookyung's face reads becasue he doesn't care. because he's hurt and she should hurt back (even if it hurts him to see it too, no matter how much he represses it). AND THEY JUST--

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lord help me if anyone approaches me abt lee sookyung and how she doesn't deserve forgiveness im going to start biting

firstly: analysis and acknowleding character complexity ≠ asking for forgiveness or absolution.

conversations abt "deserving absolution" or "forgiveness" are counterproductive bc this isn't the good place, janet. we are looking at intentions, motivations, and the aftermath. good or bad does not tie into it

and Secondly

i think if we as readers are willing to love and understand and even defend kim dokja for the sacrifices he made out of love, if we are willing to say that the novel is abt loving him bc he deserves it in spite of harms caused, children abandoned, companions left grieving and mourning, then you have a similar capacity to do the same to and for lee sookyung, his mom. THATS HIS MOM–

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ok, so this pissed me off, right

to recap: this was around reading again arc, where there was a hit out on dokja's head coming straight from olympus saying that whoever permakills him is the one he loves the most.

this was a pretty painful part of the novel for me for more than just personal reasons bc before this part of the story, arcs and arcs ago, whenever we went anywhere near dokja's traumatic past, it would always lead back to his mom.

and when we finally meet sookyung in person, dokja describes her as looking nothing like him. you get about 3 exchanged lines of dialogue before you realize that dokja's every interaction with his mother involves him misconstruing her intentions and emotions, projecting his own insecurities. and sookyung cannot clear things up because dokja keeps closing the door on her.

so, looping back to reading again, you get to the scene of sookyung reaffirming her love for him as a mother.

this scene reeks of tension.

dokja constantly denying her love for him, enjoying the pained looks on her face, refusing to forgive her for the slight of sicc'ing the media at him and sending his life careening off the deep end as the public was reminded over and over again that he was a murderer's son, of never coming back to him when she was released so he could finally say he endured it all just for her.

because he loved her.

even though he fully believes her story. even though it's mired in bitterness. his heart aches when she reaffirms her love for him.

sookyung in this scene is genuine, repentant, so desperate to save her son that she killed him to try and keep him from permanently dying. she does it to say, "I love you," her heart bleeding on the slab. "Perhaps even more than myself." because she remembers what he did for her, and she's hoping to any listening god that he's still here, her little reader, the one who loved her so much.

maybe this will save him.

maybe this will reunite them. it's a foolish hope but she's so, so desperate.

so how does the manhwa depict it?

so yeah. im pretty pissed abt it

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additionally yes this is also spurred by the fact that the live action sucked all the nuance to her and dokja's relationship. they made it so that she doesn't go to prison. like............... so why the fuck did dokja start reading this novel again? whatever. the movie's not even out yet and im already pissed. god forbid women be anything anymore

i feel like we have got to get normal abt lee sookyung

i know a lot of the reason why discussions ive seen abt her are like that is bc well a nonzero am of ppl approaching the text may or may not be in the throes of internalized misogyny

and it really doesnt matter if its abt how she speaks to dokja (who twists most of her sentiments negatively to suit his internalized interpretation of her character), how she envies twsa and joonghyuk for being such an important figure to her son (so much so that he'd much rather rely on his flawed knowledge of the text than his own mother), or generally abt how incredibly cartoon villain-y they portray her in the manhwa (upcoming post in this blog's lee sookyung tag).

i feel like her importance to dokja's overall story is generally downplayed and misconstrued because the acknowledgement of her involvement happens off-page.

han sooyoung ends up teaming up with, taking care of, and looking up to her. why? well:

her arrest and the subsequent memoir she released is what set the ball rolling into dokja reading twsa

she's a fellow writer who wrote to try and protect dokja

she's a good person who makes sound decisions, a lot of which dokja never gets to hear abt. he narrated a lot abt how the wanderers flocked to her, but never abt how good of a leader she was. partly bc it was during the time he was stuck in his head abt his hc of her being evil and partly bc it probably would have been fluff in an already tight (and lengthy) novel

lee sookyung's story as a mother and abuse survivor who loves her son so much she taught him the gift of reading, went to prison for him, and pointed all the fingers at herself to keep him away from prison for the rest of his life--- those three key things is what makes her a complex character.

she wanted so badly to be the one to raise him, to be the one to be there for him. but her son's selflessness and love for her was so great, she had to sacrifice herself just to keep him safe in return.

sookyung and sooyoung are tied in this parallel of doing this awful thing to dokja (writing that book, telling that story) in order to protect him, without his consent. and i think we should respect that and realize that her very humane envy of dokja clinging to a different story as a lifeline--- because she's an author, because she loves him, because she wants to be his lifeline--- is what makes her human, so evidently bleeding with the grief of seeing her son grown without having witnessed his growth.

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i feel like we have got to get normal abt lee sookyung

i know a lot of the reason why discussions ive seen abt her are like that is bc well a nonzero am of ppl approaching the text may or may not be in the throes of internalized misogyny

and it really doesnt matter if its abt how she speaks to dokja (who twists most of her sentiments negatively to suit his internalized interpretation of her character), how she envies twsa and joonghyuk for being such an important figure to her son (so much so that he'd much rather rely on his flawed knowledge of the text than his own mother), or generally abt how incredibly cartoon villain-y they portray her in the manhwa (upcoming post in this blog's lee sookyung tag).

i feel like her importance to dokja's overall story is generally downplayed and misconstrued because the acknowledgement of her involvement happens off-page.

han sooyoung ends up teaming up with, taking care of, and looking up to her. why? well:

her arrest and the subsequent memoir she released is what set the ball rolling into dokja reading twsa

she's a fellow writer who wrote to try and protect dokja

she's a good person who makes sound decisions, a lot of which dokja never gets to hear abt. he narrated a lot abt how the wanderers flocked to her, but never abt how good of a leader she was. partly bc it was during the time he was stuck in his head abt his hc of her being evil and partly bc it probably would have been fluff in an already tight (and lengthy) novel

lee sookyung's story as a mother and abuse survivor who loves her son so much she taught him the gift of reading, went to prison for him, and pointed all the fingers at herself to keep him away from prison for the rest of his life--- those three key things is what makes her a complex character.

she wanted so badly to be the one to raise him, to be the one to be there for him. but her son's selflessness and love for her was so great, she had to sacrifice herself just to keep him safe in return.

sookyung and sooyoung are tied in this parallel of doing this awful thing to dokja (writing that book, telling that story) in order to protect him, without his consent. and i think we should respect that and realize that her very humane envy of dokja clinging to a different story as a lifeline--- because she's an author, because she loves him, because she wants to be his lifeline--- is what makes her human, so evidently bleeding with the grief of seeing her son grown without having witnessed his growth.

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usernames aside, i gotta put this blog to use and i would rather not put my mutuals through more orv ranting so im just gonna leave them all here untagged except for what type of post they are.

i go by they/them and i am not a minor. i've read through the entire novel, skim the webtoon sometimes, and get trickled down information abt other orv properties over on twitter bc i dont follow anyone posting abt it regularly on tumblr.

pinning this for potential onlookers.

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no fucking way

YK what I’m sorry Tumblr people but it must happen here too