#“jon im telling you the ”i dont really see it“ was a start of a sexuality crisis for ol' zachy poo.

[i-like-books-and-women]

Welcome back to the bits of soup I deem good enough for the public:

Angel 100% thought Zach and Ruben were dating for a hot second. It would've been like somewhere in between after the talent show and before canon starts. But either way I think it went something like this.

Ruben: yeah so there's this guy

Zach: ooh guy?

Angel: oh do you guys have an open relationship?

Zach & Ruben: what-

Angel: aren't you dating?

Zach: i mean ruben's an amazing person but I'm straight-

Angel was then confused about this for the next like month. After this interaction he ran it by Jon and Jon was like "bro what planet do you live on?". Then after Zach and Ruben came out to Jon and Angel, Angel pulled Jon aside and was like "fuck you I knew it I was right".

Secondary thought. After Zach and Ruben got their shit together but before Jon and Angel knew (that's a time window of like 2 weeks right??? I don't remember lol) they like put together that something was going on and were trying to make the math math. Eventually Angel got to "they've gotta me a thing man no way they aren't" which was very "I've connected the dots. You didn't connect shit. I've connected them.)

[sunny-reacts-to-stuff]

tma 122 "zombie" in your heeeead in your heaaad

body horror, mortality, undead, stalking, existential horror, imposter, isolation, unreality, solipsistic delusion, psychopathy

zombie acoustic version is so much better than actual zombie imo

BASIRA <3

omg basira georgie conversation we are so back

"your dark gods" she is in that job as a hostage i dont think she claims them

"i came to melanie" MY GIRL!!

"honestly, it's not your business" georgie you called the institute

JON HOLY FUCK DRINK SOME WATER YOU SOUND DRIER THAN THE SANDSTORM GUY

can nikola come here and moisturize you again

can you NOT LAUGH???

oh she's asking if he got strangered :(

is he gonna have to be told the tim daisy business

LMAO NOT HIM BEING "i'm alright, i'm okay" AS HE IS WAKING UP FROM A COMMA FOLLOWING AN EXPLOSION. HE IS LITERALLY ME.

SIX FUCKING MONTHS?

SIX MONTHS?

I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO WEEKS?

he is no more.

oh.

my archivist :(

"daisy too" well i dont think he cares as much about that

grifter's bone, play brain damage by pink floyd.

see it makes sense because the episode is titled after the "in your head" song and brain damage says "there's someone in my head but it's not me"

hey georgie im all for jon self-care but he kinda needed to save the world

why would she be disappointed

PLEASE GRAB HIM THE WATER?? DON'T FUCKING ASK?? HE HASN'T DRANK THROUGH HIS MOUTH IN 6 MONTHS?

"how did you know i brought one" he got a nat 20 in an insight check

are you sure you dont want the fucking water

IN YOUR HEAAAAD

fav cranberries so

THE ARCHIVISTTTT!!!

either way, fav cranberries' song, everyone? mine's dreams and then either no need to argue or daffodil lament and ridiculous thoughts idk

rip danielle?

i did the same thing with philosophy

wait i have a danielle in the list

and a liam too :O

hey lorell did liam work at fanton's

who the fuck theorized that

LIAM CATCHING STRAYS!!

Philosopher Daniel Stoljar points out that zombies need not be utterly without subjective states, and that even a subtle psychological difference between two physically identical people, such as how coffee tastes to them, is enough to refute physicalism.[3]  Some physicalists, such as Daniel Dennett, argue that philosophical zombies are logically incoherent and thus impossible, or that all humans are philosophical zombies

woah i sure wonder why this character is named danielle

liam is catching so many strays

LIAM LOST HIS FUCKING HAND TO YOUR EXPERIMENT?

i really fucking hope you are right about the zombie stuff

three seasons in and i cant tell whether this is the stranger, the end or the spiral. im going with the stranger

i think the stranger and the spiral being different separate is kinda silly tbh

also i was explaining the entities to my friend and it went like "and then the

following you?

"he was identical to yesterday but with different clothes" that's how people usually work

basira my girlie couldn't you have picked a less "people are FAKE!!" statement after he just lost your girlfriend and his ex-friend to the PeopleAreFake monster?

this guy:

oh that was SO FUCKING CREEPY <3 i hate my life

you are gonna give your psychosis to jon

at what point in the statement did he drink a full glass of water

no fucking way the statement readership helps him that much

see here's the thing you are never gonna be yourself again regardless of the entity stuff and you are never gonna wake up as the same person twice and never swim in the same river twice and specially after such a trauma you can only rebuild a jonathan, but never the past jonathan

either way jon i think you should read piranesi in like 2 years when it drops for you

YOU ARE NEVER THE SAME PERSON THAT WENT TO SLEEP THAT'S THE WHOLE THING

hey can someone phone martin really quick and tell him jon woke up

QUESTIONS!!

OHHH QUESTIONS

basira, start him off easy

he feels more real :(

they found his remains :(

NOOO BASIRA MY BEAUTIFUL GIRL IT'S OKAY DON'T CRY :((

wait how many murders has melanie commited in these six months

YEAH IM SURPRISED MARTIN ISNT HERE TOO

WAIT. SIX MONTHS OF PETER LUKAS THAT'S RIGHT OHHHH FUCK OFF

"elias isn't the problem" said no one ever

martin pls be alright

fuck you mean dont know

YOU DONT SEE HIM?

melanie?

melanie?

is melanie well?

please i need her to be well

what the fuck did lukas do to the archives?

did it catch fire or something

nuance? oh new ones

YES PLEASE DRINK YOUR FUCKING WATER

honestly knowing you i think water is gonna do you better than whatever cheap shitty tea they have at the hospital

[th3lightyougaveme]

jontim lyrical analysis of "that’s enough, let’s get you home" by will wood undercut

(sharing my thoughts and feelings. again)

“My dream girl, those eyes, that nose.”

just. jon talking about tim. SURE he may not have had a crush on him but like. imagine:(

“My private inside joke, sign the cast on my funny bone.”

stretching a little, but tim brought out the humor in jon during their research days. once their relationship soured, jon lost a lot of his need for that humor.

“Floral sheets on long-given-up ghosts. Haunt my bedroom at night and say ‘Let’s get you home.’”

‘long-given-up ghosts’ is in reference to their past friendship to me. jon has given up on the chance of getting those days back and has tried to accommodate by stuffing those memories away. those memories still haunt his dreams though. times where he had a friend in all of this. a friend he chose to push away in spite of how tim wouldve helped.

“They say ‘Grow up, be a man, ‘cause until then, you’re nothing but a short-haired girl.’”

TIM YELLING AT JON TO ACTUALLY DO HIS FUCKING JOB. i WISH tim had told jon to grow up in canon. i dont remember if he did but if he did. show me where pretty ple

“But come and Braille-palm-read and hold my hand, see my reason and ‘Goodbye cruel world.’”

jon trying to apologize still. jon trying to explain what he did and have tim understand. and of course the ‘goodbye cruel world’ is tim sacrificing himself.

“And oh my God, what’s wrong with me? And the wife of Walter Keane, whose name right now’s escaping me.”

obviously this is just jon getting scared over how tight of a grip the beholding has on him. idunno maybe the last part is just a random fact he knew as a result or somethin.

“That’s right, Margaret. Dream girl, come, and sweep me off my knees. I’d rather stay asleep than never see you wake up next to me.”

‘im not losing you as well!’ yeah. that line just about sums it up.

“Neon lights like heat lamps in the cold. To incubate the shadows you can’t stitch back to your soles.”

ONCE AGAIN. jon and tim recognizing they can never get back to where they started. i like to think tim clings to those memories of better times unlike jon. ‘incubate the shadows you cant stitch back to your soles’ in reference to tim doing just that. holding those days close to his heart but knowing hell never get them back.

“And you seemed fine just a few days ago, but CO2 and fish tanks do enough to get you home.”

jon referring to tims sudden anger outbursts. recognizing how tim has gotten far too used to the things going down at the archives. specifically the co2 bit.

“Well, now you swear in your prayers telling time, ‘Promise I’ll never have fun again. If you’d stop flying,’”

tim getting mad at jon for him constantly running away from the archives and his problems. BRO TIM LITERALLY JUST WANTS HIM TO DO HIS JOB. ithink the last line can also be seen as tim being slightly happier in jons absence.

“But then you start crying ‘Never mind, you win.’”

‘you know what? you’re actually right. you’re the only one.’ <- sums it up. you get it

“And far too late came far too soon. And the love you never made became the things you'd never do.”

once again them mourning what they once had and what they mightve ended up with. this time with the whole theme of tim ‘never’ doing certain things. his literal last words to jon start with ‘i dont forgive you’

“Oh, sweet Mary. Dream girl, come, but keep your hands off me. Go on back to bed my love, I mean, that’s where dreams are supposed to be.”

jon sending tim and martin home that one time when he knew he was about to do something dangerous. god i just looked back at my notes for that and he didnt have to do that. he really didnt have to. martin and tim sortve leave him alone for the most part anyways. he didnt need to try and convince them to leave

“But come and Braille-palm-read, hold my hands and you’ll see that it’s me who cries mercy while your fingers curl.”

jon begging for tim to be nicer with him. i dunno i just picture tim going to punch jon and jon frantically talking him down for this one. you get it

“And, oh, are you at all like me? Do you know what I mean? Or am I too close to see? Someone, anyone?”

i see this as jon asking for help far too late. him desperately trying to explain his situation to someone he used to trust but that someone no longer cares. that someone doesnt even look at him the same anymore, why would he listen?

“Of the two things we do on our knees, watch me fold my hands just to crack my knuckles. Well, here is the church, here is the steeple, open the doors, see all the people. Alright, that’s enough, let’s get you home.”

AGAIN A STRETCH. but them entering the wax museum. ‘open the doors, see all the people’ in reference to the end of 118 where they do just that:) and ‘alright, that’s enough, let’s get you home’ is jon admitting defeat on tims survival. jon accepting that he is losing another person today whether he wants it or not.

[hydraposeidon]

TMA 1-10

I have recently started TMA, and now that im 10 episodes in I would like to share my just a little bit of my thoughts on each episode, as a kind of summary of how my feeling.

Ep 1 - The Angler Fish

This was a very good introduction, i really enjoyed the unsettling feeling the creature had. Can I have a cigarette repeated was just alajdlsjdjsk

Ep 2 - Do Not Open

This is probably my favorite episode so far, I just loved the Coffin and the fact that the Joshua was actually smart, and that John was suprised the coffin was locked

Ep 3 - Across the Street

I really really liked seeing Graham before hand, because then when he was replaced, i really got the feel that he was completely different and unsettling. The description of the arm looking like a pipe was really cool. Keep Watching in the journals was fun :), i like to think it was a message to Amy.

Ep 4 - Page Turner

My favorite line in this entire episode was "Oddly enough, I hadn't learned any more latin since i bought the book 12 hours ago" also the Ozone Scent and the childhood friend! That was really fun. Gerard Keay is very suspicious, and Mary Keay even moreso. I thought it was really interesting how Jon actually reacted to Jurgen Leitners name, and called the book a Tome. Very interesting for a man who thinks this is all fake.

Ep 5 - Thrown Away

I thought this episode was really fun, and actually rather calm, until the teeth. All the same tooth. That was especially unsettling because i was cooking with frozen corn as i listened and they were just too similar. I kept yelling at Alan to not be an idiot, because if they can get thousands of identical teeth infront of a house without anyone noticing they can easily get rid of you.

Ep 6 - Squirm

I was being rude to Timothy at the start because he said that he lives local and was keeping an eye on the women. And also that ripped tights and too much eyeliner were exactly what he looked for. And then he was actually nice and considerate and asked Harriet if she was sure multiple times. Then came the worms, ough. I would have burned the house down so fast, he made the right call. I did find it amusing that Jon said that all the biological matter in the house was charred and non-human, when Timothy specifically said it wasn't Harriet anymore and the room was full of worms. Ofc worms aren't human. And then he mentions Jane Prentiss, and that they need to go save him, but simultaneously denying what happened? I also killed my friend when I asked him if he thought the "worms inside her made it grippier" so thats a plus

Ep 7 - The Piper

This was definitely a suprising episode, I was expecting the Pied Piper, not War. But it was very good. I love how Wilfred stated "I met the war" amazing line. Also Joseph Reyner, im so suspicious of that name. I really enjoyed that Clarence could recognize the Piper and know who was going to die, without hearing it himself. And when Wilfred said he didn't know who was lucky? Ahaksishslsp

Ep 8 - Burnt Out

I found myself a little dissatisfied with this episode. It was good, but something just felt missing. It was just an even stroll through the history of the house, no real Ups and Downs. I liked the Handless skeleton and the bleeding tree though, those were cool. And the hand chained to the daughters waist when she died? Very interesting. Not bad just not my favorite. Really annoyed at Jon though, he has spent 7 episodes complaining that nobody archives things correctly and its impossible to find anything accurate, and then this episode says that all the witness claimed this history was true, but the archives all disagree so it cant be. Are these archives and news stories reliable or not Jon!

Ep 9 - A Fathers Love

The eye hand pendant is interesting. I remember a lot of eye motifs throughout the episodes, although its been a minute since i started and i dont remember exactly where they are. The mother vanishing, the open door, and the brackish water are such great environmental story telling pieces. This Rayner is definitely connected to Joshua Rayner, i dont care that Joshua was exploded. And ough i just want to know what the black lines in the photos looked like! I really loved the ending, the breaking door and growling were great, but the beating heart in the background as he chanted and stabbed the last heart? Its so good. The pendant on the corpse? Definitely makes me think the Cult took the Mom, and the Dad singlehandely tore it apart. I immediately doubted myself when i saw that Maxwell Reyner led the People's Church of the Divine Host, cause why would he take orders from the cult hes killing. Also, the lights exploding! Almost like whatever monster the cult used to break the door and Kill the father in jail needs the darkness?

Ep 10 - Vampire Hunter

Trevor is so fun, he just seems like a great guy. I love how casually he mentioned killing 5 vampires. And these vampires are awesome. A lot stealthier and cooler than classic vampires. The description of their teeth filled wind pipeless mouth is great, and that tongue is definitely interesting, like a mosquito. I like how seemingly fragile they are, the stomach popped like a balloon, burning easily, chest with no ribs or resistance. Really plays into their ambush predator side, and not terror of the night. It was really funny how Heroin saved the day, there truely is a first time for everything. I love how Jon says "we can confirm everything except the vampires" as if there was anything else in the story. Thanks Jon!

Thats all i have to say for my first 10 episodes. Im really loving this so far its really interesting, thanks for getting me started, Tybalt. The earlier episodes have less cause i binged the first 5 and then got distracted and didn't listen to anything for like 2 months.

[stevie-petey]

Anything you want to tell us about Come Home that hasn’t been asked about yet? Like a head canon, Easter egg, reference, song rec, something you wrote in particular that made you feel a certain way, etc ?

anon these questions always make me so giddy omg i cant even choose what i wanna talk about because theres a LOT we havent unpacked together yet but ok ok ok lets start here: how jon and steve differ with loving bug.

weve already established that jon helps bug because theres an obligation there from years of being together, while steve does it because he wants to. to add to this, the love is almost reflective of that

jon: i will never deserve to love but i will love you anyways because its all i know (selfishly, co dependently, raw, messy, instinctive)

steve: i will never deserve to love you but if you believe i do then i will love you with everything within me (trusting, comforting, forgiving, replenishing, complete)

for an easter egg im shocked no one has pointed out the bonus episode titles !!! season 1 bonus ep is “the beginning” because its the beginning of everything between bug and steve. the beginning of their friendship, their dynamic, their budding relationship. it all starts in that chapter. as for season 2, “the fall”, this is LITERALLY steve falling in love with bug. the bonus eps are meant to really piece together the dynamics i create throughout the seasons canon, and then bring it all together outside of canon to set up for future seasons ! the bonus ep titles will always tell you whats in store for the couple ;)

the titles of the seasons overall are also the ending of them !!! for 1 (we dont talk about it) we end with jon and bug never talking about their love for one another and instead promising to stay the same. for 2 (we thought love was something we werent meant to find), the season ends with steve and bug both finding love within one another after being led to believe they werent meant for the love they craved because of nancy and jon. for 3 (now youre a stranger) ,,,, well ! wait n see <3

ok now for some a quasi reference (more symbolism): everyone who meets bug has a crush on her but not in a cliche “reader is so pretty” way but in a “this person is so genuinely lovely and has this pull to them that you cant help but fall in love with”. they arent actually in love with bug per say, theyre in love with her kindness. its infectious, i like to think bug embodies everything we wish to be <3

finally because im sleepy i will say that the ending scene in season 2 between bug and steve still makes me so <333 to reread. the idea that someone will wait for you, and that they trust you to come back, is just so beautiful to me. not only was bug putting her heart in steves hands, he placed his in hers as well. she trusts that he will love her in the end, she wont rush him, and he trusts that she will be there for him when he falls :’)))

i also really really adore the final scene between jon and bug in season 1, when theyre in the car and everything settles between them and bug makes jon promise that nothing will change. ugh. it breaks my heart every time. its so so so bittersweet :( it parallels steve and bug a year later at the end of season 2 and i just. im so proud of that as well

i blabbed so much my god. pls enjoy

[akaikali]

TMAGP EP 20 REACTION (SPOILERS)

Firstly before I even START, it's called social stigma. PLEASE tell me it's not another social influencer one I'm begging you I cannot take another laughing fit like ep 16.

Also wait the dedication is so me

WAIT ALICE CAME AS WELL??? ALSO HELLO SAMALICELIA PROTOCULE

Alice. Did you really talk him OUT of it??? Because lats I remember, Colin slammed the door in your face.

"It's more about who killed the Magnus Institute" DAMN

Okay I did kind of suspect that the OIAR had a hand in destroying the institute. But like also Alice knows a bit too much about Starkwell. Something you wanna tell us, honey?

SAM'S TALKING ABOUT THE PROTOCOL HOLY SHIT.

Alice babygirl. The things you are saying seem like you're actually inadvertedly conforming all of Sam's suspicions. Like are you saying there IS a government conspiracy???

Okay I love Alice but she's starting to take the s1 Jon route where she refuses to believe things are supernatural or suspicious to the the point where it actually makes LESS sense. Someone is gonna get hurt because of that. And if it's Sam, Alice is going to be in a WHOLE different world of guilt.

DID JON SEND SAM THE EMAIL ABOUT THE STARKWALL 1999 REPORTS???

Alice sweetie you have a point but being so...Dismissive of it when there's CLEARLY something was just not the way. Sam is obviously the kind of person who will keep digging unless you directly tell him the truth.

"We already know we work in a global atrocity factory. It's called the British Government" God Alice I love you

Alice's hatred for England fucking SENDS me I love this woman

I get where Alice is coming from like she's right unfortunately. But I think she's very much blocking out the supernatural part of it and seeing it more as a conspiracy theory than something. Yknow. Horror-y

CELIA IS DEFINITELY FROM THE TMA-VERSE HOLY SHIT BECAUSE IF SHE KNOWS WHAT THE INSTITUTE CAUSED IN TMA-VERSE, NO WONDER SHE THINKS IT WASNT THE WRONG IDEA TO DESTROY IT.

"Catastrophic, world-ending" HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT YEAH THATS BASICALLY CONFIRMATION. BECAUSE THE WORLD DID END. THE APOCALYPSE HAPPENED.

Oh Alice...this is going to drive such a wedge between Alice and Sam. I think the funniest thing is that Alice is absolutely not going to be able to stay away from the "hornet's nest", as she puts it.

At least Sam has Celia on his side, I guess?

OH MY GOD WE MET INK5OUL IM ABOUT TO FUCKING LOSE IT.

Ink5oul is giving Jude Perry why are they annoyingly hot

"Shame. You've got lovely skin" Ooooo Gwen is the hot tattoo artist hitting on youuuu

FUCK WHY ARE THEY SO HOT

Oh???? Hello wait what???? Does Ink5oul. Not know what they are???

OH NO DONT DO THIS TO ME I INK5OUL ABOUT TO GET BLORBOFIED. BECAUSE I WILL TAKE IT OF COURSE BUT THIS WAS NOT WHAT I WAS EXPECTING

Ink5oul is self-aware??? Oh God could they get sexier???

Something something addiction to being seeing or being known is so much the opposite of The Eye which is the fear of being seen or being known.

"Tattooed Prince Albert's cock or something" WHAT

Does this count as stealing designs??? Because the og artists is long dead but Ink5oul never says they referenced his work. It's important to me as an artist SO

OKAY SO Ink5oul's tattoos are like...Predictive? Like whatever they tattoo will most probably lead to the person's method of death?

The pipeline of small influencer to...whatever the fuck Ink5oul became

"The ink flows through me" BENDY IS THAT YOU AND YOUR INK MACHINE????

Hmmm so Ink5oul slowly became an external but rly without even their knowledge. Is this them becoming less human??

"Thats...very eloquent" GWEN GIRL WHAT DO YOU EVEN MEAN

Gwen you chose the WRONG PERSON to bite back against girl WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF

GWEN YOU IDIOT YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST AS BAD AS JON WHY DO YOU PISS OFF THINGS THAT CAN KILL YOU literally this reminds me of Jon yelling at Not-Sasha to shut up in ep 79 of TMA.

Hmmm wait okay so Sam actually heard the first Ink5oul case in episode 2, so I wonder if Gwen ever manages to open up to him again (Which I completely understand if she doesn't) he might believe her because he's heard what Ink5oul's tattoos can do. But like. Again very unlikely since Mr. Khalid over here really fucked up in ep 18.

It really interests me though that Ink5oul has no idea what happened to them. I looked up Sutherland Macdonald, nothing of note. But I think it's pretty obvious that by TMAGP, they found out the tattoo on the dead body was an Oscar Jarrett tattoo and was looking to get some... face-to-face inspiration.

I'm worried about Sam and Alice. I mean honestly, Alice does have full right to step away from all of this but her dismissiveness of Sam this whole time probably doesn't help her when it comes to him. She wants to protect him, but he wants the truth. It actually makes me slightly more sure that the Dyer in the ARG was probably her pre-transition because of the empathy levels. Not that she doesn't feel empathy, but I don't think she feels like there's anything she can say to change things, so she doesn't try. Which is exactly what she says in this ep.

Anyways ummmm SamCelia shippers I get you they're actually pretty cute and it does make me happy to see that someone is supporting Sam and genuinely hearing him out since absolutely no one else he's talked to about this will.

[whitegirljoshuamacheath]

okay so martin. martin blackwood. you know how jon feels about him season 1, at least. he thinks martin doesnt belong, that hes incompetent. now i dont agree with jon, but--

martin lied when he originally applied to the institute. he was young and needed to take care of his sick mother, so he said he had a degree in parapsychology and got a job working in the library. later, after years of working in the library, elias moved him to the archive when jon was promoted to archivist. im gonna split this into seasons

season 1- intro to . basically everything. jon warming up to martin starts slightly in i believe mag 22 when martin comes back from being "sick", ie trapped in his flat by jane prentiss for two weeks. they bond a bit during the big worm attack on the archive in 39 with jon opening up about why hes such a big sceptic and jon, for a brief moment, thinking martin is a ghost because of a comment he makes about feeling stuck in the web of the archive, like he cant leave. martin makes fun of him for it for a moment but it really does foreshadow both the involvement of the web in the story and the fact that the archive employees really cant leave. anyway, martin gets lost in the tunnels during the finale and finds gertrudes corpse!

season 2- jons paranoia spiral! martin is one of jons suspects for gertrudes murder bc hes going a little coocoo bananas rn and martin is being NICE to him so it must mean hes trying to KILL HIM. made a million times worse by jon finding a note martin wrote saying something along the line of "if the others find out im lying"- which jon believes is about the murder but it is revealed that it is about him lying on his cv which i already told you about. and even though the entities arent like. known. yet. this helps to tie martin a bit more to one of his multiple entity connections! ill get into those later

season 3- mostly will focus on the later bits bc theyre the most interesting, also because jon is on his world kidnapping tour rn so i cant jmart it up. so, the unknowing. all you gotta know rn is that its a big scary ritual that they gotta stop. martin and melanie stay back at the institute to distract elias and holyyy fuck its like. insnae. martin is burning statements to get his attention and because of it, elias turns his freaky fucking eye powers on martin and tells him that his mom, who i believed either recently passed or will pass like. really soon. hates him and always has because he looks like his father who left them.

season.4. jons in a coma, all but braindead and elias is in prison bc he admitted to multiple murders at the end of the last season. so the institute is now run by peter lukas, avatar of the lonely. normally id explain a bit more about an entity when i bring it up but. its sorta in the name. peter makes martin his personal assistant, and like. basically grooms him into the lonely. then at the end of the season theres this wholeeee thing but to make a super long story short, martin actually gets trapped in the lonely (fog pocket dimension), and jon pulls him out and then they go live happily ever after in daisys safehouse in scotland

season 5- martin sees some good cows and thats it

thats. it.

okay sorry. yeah jon ends the world whoops ! the girls (jmart) go travel to the institute across the domains, fucked up little fear factories, and in one of em, they encounter not!sasha, the thing that killed sasha, the first archival assistant to die. she mocks sasha and martin, and jon finds out he can fucking kill things with his eyeball powers now. so he kills it. martin wants to kill more things. and by things i mean oliver banks, who helped jon get out of his coma and become a full blown avatar. because martin is jealous. god i love him. okay forgive me i do get fuzzy abt plot details in mid-late season 5, but they keep getting calls from annabelle cane, web avatar (spiders+manipulation) throughout the season, and eventually martin gets kidnapped by her. martin has always had ties to the web, actually. the web, the lonely, and a bit of the eye through his work at the institute.

okay now to the fun bit

to get the world back to 'normal', the eye cannot have a pupil. currently, the pupil is elias. jon, martin, and now melanie, georgie, and basira, decide that the girls (actually the women this time) are going to set the institute on fire while martin kills elias, because if jon does it, he'll become the pupil. jon had offered that at first, saying that if he was the pupil he could lessen the harm being done, big metaphor for the idea that a good person in power can fix a corrupt system imo even tho the system itself exists to corrupt ANYWAY. jons an impulsive fuck and kills elias before anyone can get up to stop him. martin, then, has to stab his lover through the heart as the building they're in collapses around them to save the world, either dooming them to death or the possibility of being sent Somewhere Else (<-the latter being a huge trope in tma post canon fics. love em tho)

they never find any bodies. which is good, bc if they were still there and somehow still alive, at least jon and probably martin would be beaten to death by crowds of people who had just been traumatized for weeks, though it felt like much longer to almost everyone. again, personal hell dimensions

!!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? /positive. what a fucking guy??? hello??? thats so neatt,,,,, fog pocket dimesionnn,,,,,

[thewomanwithanorangeface]

HELLLLOOOOOOO TUMBLR!!!

I AM THE ORANGE MANIAC

Stuff about Orange maniac

Relationships:

Curly: DATING! Loves that himbo /pos (the curly shes dating is specifically captain-g-curly

Daisuke: friends, doesn’t really talk to him much, but sees him around

Swansea: FATHER?? (better) Father figure basically

Anya: loves her sm, best of the best. (Attempting) Besties :3

Jimmy: sometimes she’s okay with him, but most of the time shes not, doesn’t really trust him.

Oc relationships!

Jon: she thinks he’s adorable, they’re best friends

Carmen: also best friends!

she doesn’t know why the younger folk are friends with her, but shes not complaining

Bea: not too sure about bea but Very curious about him

R/Rosalie: she thinks shes very pretty, they clicked right off the bat, already a good friend

//MOD: IM LIKE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT STARTING THIS BC IVE NEVER REALLY DONE THIS BEFORE SO IF SOMETHING IS THERE THAT YOU DONT LIKE THEN PLEASE TELL ME!//

//ill probs make a char reff for her//

Random hcs for her here

Char ref below cut

[azarablue]

The Statement of Layla Evergreen

This is longggg TW Talk of death

Archivist: Hello, I was told that you wanted to make a statement. Im sorry usually Im more ready for statements- Martin? What are you doing down here?

Martin: Oh, hello, I, sorry I was just, well I walked Ms. Evergreen, or is it Ms. Carson?

Layla: Layla is perfectly fine, thank you Martin.

Martin: Well- Uh

Archivist: Yes well uh you can leave us Martian.

Martin: Yes, um of course.

Layla: Bye Martin.

Martin: Bye Ms. Eve- Layla

Archivist: Right, hello Ms. Evergreen, Im-

Layla: You're Jonathan Sims, Head Archivist of the The Magnus Institute and currently avatar of the (pause) eye, well I dont know about avatar, not yet at least.

Jon: I- How do you know that- Ar- are you a-

Layla: An Avatar? No, Ha, well I dont know actually, maybe, but. Anyway Im here to give you my statement, well 2 I guess.

Jon: T- two? Well um thats, *clears throat* Lets begin. Statement of Layla Evergreen regarding-

Layla: *glasses closing* The crash and my death 8 years later.

Jon: Right, statement taken directly from subject, statement begins

Layla: Well I guess it all really started from the time I could cry, according to my mother, my birth mother, I hated the dark. I remember from the time I could talking all I could talk about where the "Demons" and the doors, god dont get me started on the doors.

Jon: Im sorry to interrupt, but did you say doors?

Layla: Yes, doors, random doors that I used to be terrified to go in that were in spots no door should be. But the thing that I think you'll want to hear about is the crash. I was 5, I remember riding in the car my father was driving, my mother hated to drive, said it made her head hurt. Um we were going to see my nana one last time before she passed. And even then I never understood why it unsettled me, it wasn’t the death or the home. But against my five year old wishes we were going, my mother never liked main roads and demanded my father drive the back way. We were passing trees and that’s where it all happened, the juice box I had fell out of my hand when we hit a particularly nasty bump. It was grape and we had white carpet and seats. You can do that math, my mother was furious she unhooked her seat belt to grab it all the while yelling about how I was old enough to hold on to my own juice. My father hated when she yelled. So he started yelling, telling her to leave it and that it would be fine. I remember the moment I saw it, it wasn’t a deer, or maybe it was, but it was right in front of the car in the middle of the of the road. My mother screamed at him to watch the road and I guess that’s when he saw it.

The car swerved and went off the road. We ran into a tree, I woke up to my mother crying. She was shacking my father, from my car seat I could see him just laying there not moving. I started to cry, then I stared looking around, and that’s when I saw him, it? A man standing behind a tree, my crying and trashing around must’ve gotten my mother’s attention because that’s when she froze. I could tell she was pinned based on the way she moved but she was able to unbuckle me from the seat and pulled me to the floor. “Hide right there put you back against the door and don’t move ok” I did what she told me and I couldn’t see out the window, but I could see her, the fear in her eyes. And the feeling, that feeling of the cold it surrounded me like being dropped in the ocean.

And just like that it was over my father’s body was gone and my mother just stayed in that spot and cried. That was until the fog rolled in, by this point it was night and I hadn’t moved and my mother she just stayed in her seat crying for my father. I waited a little longer and I moved up to the seat pulling at my mother. She pulled me in her lap and I could see the dash was pressing in on her leg. She held me for a while, then asked me reach for her purse. I was just able to get it but it was no use even if her phone had service the screen was far to broken to use it. So she just held me even as the fog from outside got denser. And that’s when I began to cry, I could see people in the fog walking, and from her face I knew she could see it too. She made me squeeze down on the floor the bent in dash board shielding me. The fog stared pouring into the car, it felt- alive somehow like it was looking for something, and it wasn’t me. I could feel my heart slamming in my chest, and I couldn’t breathe. I started to cry but this time no sound was come out I could hear my mother breathing and then she started talking.

“Janet, baby girl, I need you to know I love you and daddy loved you. I’m sorry I yelled but I need you to know, you are so special. Never forget that ok. I love you my little flower.” I wanted so badly to tell her that I loved her back that I forgave her, but I couldn’t move all I could do was cry and shake. Then she started talking again but this time it wasn’t to me. Just like that the fog coved her and I don’t know took her. After that I really don’t know. The fire fighters came and in the hospital the social worker and police told me we were missing for 3 days before I was found. Funny enough, they said the car was covered in webs, and thats what kept the cold out for so long. My grandmother died the night we went missing. And just like that I was alone. Until the Evergreen’s adopted me, 6 months later.

And then there was the day I died, I was playing outside. My parents weren't home, it wasn't raining as hard as you'd think it would need to be for there to be lighting, but there was. I dont remember what it was like, the strike I mean, or the death. I remember the smell though, it- I smelled like burnt meat, and the buzz, that buzz was all I could hear and feel. I couldn't hear anything but that damn buzz. Then there was light, not bright light, but a soft light, it wasn't warm either. It was cold, like a chilly day in fall, but with no breeze. Then I felt it, it was like standing on a gong, and feeling the sound move though you, feeing your whole being, your whole soul vibrate. And thats when I saw it, colors and shapes. I heard noise and laughter, music, and (pause) screams. Screams of the dead and dying. (Whimpering) After a minute thats all I could hear. The screams and the pleas, all those people lost and begging. I- I couldnt breathe, even in that place, that place in-between death. I could feel a weight on my chest like something was holding my lungs in it’s hands, keeping me from breathing. I- (pause) (whimpering ended) thats when I felt it. The first shock. It felt distant like that gum buzzers, and then again and again, until the light faded and the colors and sounds were gone. The next thing I heard was one of the medics say "Welcome back". After that I was in the hospital for about 1 month and my vision never came back. And I guess thats it.

Jon: Oh, um (clears throat) that was alot. Im sorry for you loss. And your-

Layla: Death? Oh dont worry about it. Im fine. Lots of therapy. Oh you've been touched more than once. Im sorry, that must have been a great pain for you.

Jon: What are you- Do you mean Sasha, can you see past what-

Layla: And your friend, the one with the eyes, tell him he can come down if he wants to spy, but i can understand wanting to stay in his office.

Jon: You can sense him- here?

Layla: Yes well he's not very suttle

Jon: I-

Elies: Well that is an extraordinary talent you have, and tell me how dose it work? Can you only sense people like me?

Jon: How did you- Wait you saw past the stranger, you know about Sasha- how

Layla: She was loved here, I know that and she loved it here. I am so sorry for your loss

Jon: I- thank you.

Elies: Im afraid you haven't answered any of my questions.

Layla: Right, well yes I can sense you, some are harder than others, and the ones I do find more so find me. I've never been taken as far as I know. And yes I can see past their, I dont know, powers. The things they can do, it dosent really affect me.

Elies & Jon: Interesting.

Elies: How would you like a job, here at the institute.

Jon: WHAT?! No, No you cant.

Elies: I think she quite capable of making that chose for herself. Dont you think.

Jon: You cant just hand out a job to anyone, I mean we dont even know her and-

Layla: Excuse me, if I may, Elies is it? Give me your hand.

Jon: What, are you just going to-

Layla: Hm, well you've had an active last few years. And, yes I'll take the job.

Elies: Good follow me.

Jon: I- What just happened. Oh um end of tape.

[decaydanceunredacted]

yay💞 trans ryan not!fic time. obligatory disclaimer this is not meant 2 be speculative at ALL or representative of all trans experiences etc etc its just for funzies hokay. i am crazy. but i am free

we'll do transguy ryan first. in my mind the timeline is that he starts seriously learning ab queerness sometime in high school, super burying himself online + in books all the time. tries to be a tomboy, butch, but it just doesnt rly work. so he tells spencer one summer, hey, i think im a guy. goes through senior year knowing but not telling anyone else, except for maybe a couple more friends, spencers mom. buys new clothes and keeps his hair short and his head down til the summer after graduation; doesnt even tell brendon hes trans once brendon joins the band, brendons just like alright cool youre a guy with a girly voice whatev. he does come out to him soon enough since they get pretty close but for the most part fully intends on keeping stealth, esp as the band gets bigger, bigger, and it seriously turns into a ticket outta there.

he doesnt manage to start taking t until around mid 2006 and the costumes + makeup help a lot a lot in dealing w heavy dysphoria+general discomfort around that time and with being perceived ssooo much so fast. he got top surgery around 07 and cabin era was yes in part to make a new album but also he spent it recovering. he was able to mellow out a lot in 07/08 in big part thanks to finally being comfortable in his own body. yay💖 idk if he'd ever come out publicly or stay stealth forever. maybe? anyway

tgirl ryan is a different story entirely. it starts sort of the same - finding blogs & books about queerness about halfway through high school, and it all resonates way too deep, too much. instead of coming out, she refuses to think about it and refuses to talk about it and refuses to let comments from the public, from the press, from her friends and bandmates and pete about could be pretty for a girl, and are you sure youre not gay? get to her. again, the makeup & the costumes are solace. bending and experimenting and maybe, sometimes, seeing herself in the mirror, and still being able to snap back into place: say see, dont worry, its just for show. and she doesnt really mean to ever let it slip but its 2007, theyre supposed to be making a new album but it sort of feels like theyre making a new -- something else entirely, and, well, theyre doing a lot of drugs. she asks, do you think im a girl? sort of vaguely, the ceiling is spinning and everyones quiet, too quiet, she almost thinks none of them are there and shes gonna sit up to see shes alone in her room, until jon says: i dont know, i think thats up to you. she sits up, and everyones looking at her. not judging; mostly just curious, confused.

ryan tells them, yes, she likes her name. it can be a girls name, right? she already chose it once. so they still call her ryan but they start calling her her in private, because, she says, hell no, shes not coming out to everyone. not any time soon, at least.

things are way easier, way more comfortable, just like that, for a while. being out to even just a select few is a big weight off; its easy enough to tune out everyone else. but as time goes on it becomes more and more obvious, its definitely not sustainable for the long term.

so the band falls apart. so its just her and jon. they do a couple shows and the venues are way smaller, the attention is dying down, and thats when she tells him, okay, i want to come out.

its just one interview, she tries to keep it lowkey, telling everyone in her immediate circle first and telling them yes, yes, please, call me a woman in public. dont make me do all the work.

so thats how it happens. its not easy, by any means, but she starts estrogen and lets her hair grow out and curl, smiles hard when jon refers to her easily, correctly on stage, in front of everyone, and so maybe its all worth it; to be comfortable like this, in her own skin. and maybe it pays off in ways she didnt even think of, too -- someone in the audience, one night, passing up a trans flag for her to put on the mic stand.

.

[oliver-the-raggedy-doctor]

Favourite quotes/ moments in tma

Let me know if you see any good cows. Well obviously Im going to tell you if there's any good cows (mag 160)

Starting to feel a bit self conscious, being a post-apocalyptic google (mag 164)

This feels like a strange one. What does... strange mean with something like this? don't think you want to know. Good point. Emm, ok, well, uh good luck..I'll be... Ah... Over there (mag 165)

I'll see you vengeful angels later, don't be strangers (mag 166)

If it moves like a worm, thinks like a worm, and screams it's awful agonies towards the distant, taunting sky, like a worm... Well, conclusion is obvious. (Mag 166)

We won't get lost though, I know the roots. Not really what I was getting at, Jon. Go on? Seriously? You dont- its on fire, jon. It- Yep. it's a burning building. Yes, it is. That's on FIRE. yes. (Mag 169)

Worms don't get to see the sky (mag 166)

Maybe it's her idea of a... Varied diet. Eat you greens and all that, you know (mag 160) (about tapes)

TiM. SAshAAaa. (Mag 162)

I'm not going to kill a man just cause your jealous. Why not?.... Please? (Mag 168)

Is that me? I-is that me? ... martin? Martin. Mahhhtin. Mahhtin. (martin, mag 170)

And whose this? Your boyfriend? Umm.. yes, actually. Oh um... (Mag 171)

Keep your face secured (mag 165)

Feel free to pop by when you're feeling less, um... Murdery (mag 174)

No- no, im sorry cheerleading you when your on a magical murder spree probably... wasn't a... great idea (mag 174)

I really hoped things would be simpler, a nice straightforward apocalypse (mag 174)

Before she was eaten by a door? (Mag 188)

So what? Its just a- an elderitch popularity contest? Yes. (Mag 189)

How long does it take to describe ... Scary mud? (Mag 166)

You haven't been here for months! That's not fair! Sometimes I was kidnapped. (Mag 114)

[bigkettle]

rambling abt mcr cause i cant sleep

reviewing live versions of the world is ugly.

i didn't rlly like world is ugly (cheesy ass lyrics) until i heard it live, at which point i was shellshocked and had my worldview shifted etc etc and now i have a playlist of the live versions locked and loaded whenever anything happens. review of all the recordings i care to find

2008 demo (curitiba, brazil)

dunno what was in the water when they performed it but this demo goes insanely hard. the audio quality is horrible but its an acquired taste. i love it as a standalone and i love hearing the roots of two later studio songs in it (riffs/chord progressions/vocal style for light behind your eyes as well as world is ugly). elle10one, im so happy for you meeting ur husband and living in the moment but if i had a time machine i would go to this show and tell you to FILM THE ENDING FFS WHO STOPS FILMING ON THE DROP. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW??? seeing ray start absolutely shredding and then the video cuts off...slipping thru my fingers lost to the winds of time...

The other 2 recordings floating online from hk and brazil - im grateful they exist to splice together the ending of this track but the audio is actually so horrible i cant bear to listen to it. atleast im not a sister to sleep fan eating audio crumbs until 2022.

i wish theyd perform it again but its also a product of the moment and i dont think this same feeling carries 20 years into the future T__T mama we all go to brazil 2008 THERES AN ACHE IN MY HEART AND THERES A BURNING IN MY EYES I COULD GET A NEW START BUT ID RATHER LEARN NOT TRY 😭😭🤘🤘🤘🤘

2022 nashville (1st time studio)

gerard goofy ass outfit era. i love that this song became a staple on their reunion tour, its not the conventional weapons song i ever expected to make it. this 1st performance sounds close to the studio so i feel they got more funky with it in later performances. overall clean delivery but not my fave, falls apart at the bridge

2022 wells fargo philadelphia

obsessed w this recording cause of the girl who yells 'FUCKK!!!' and then gerard goes 'this songs called the world is fucking ugly!!!'. framed in this video as a call and response, in that moment she had al the influence and power. personally i don't like the energy that the rough start brings to the performance (world is ugly should be a lullaby in between the rest of their setlist). the vocal does get smoother toward the end which i think is the start of how gerard sings it in later shows. also we start getting all the sickass extra riffs, big fan. and hearing the 1st second of teenagers at the end of this clip...following up a song no one really knows that well with teenagers????crazy

2022 toronto

actually, this one is closest to studio (except ray riffing. slay). unfortunately for jon and me, the audio quality here is ass and bass jumps severely.

2022 barclays center brooklyn

vocal improv intro sets the tone 👌👌pretty clean, good version. love how the guitar blends perfectly into the vocal is some parts, resonate so hard they both fade

2022 detroit

continues the improv intro. 'light it up again motherfuckers'. getting tired of the lights? (i assume the lights were for scarecrow, prev song that night, interesting song order) all around great vocal performance (except the bridge ARGH)

2022 newark

their hometurf new jersey so of course its rlly good, one of my fav live versions and by far gerards silliest outfit this tour. best part of this video is the 2 guys talking thru the song - like to me this is like their peak performance of the america tour, but those 2 guys dgaf just here for a laugh. actually obsessed with how after the last line "there's one thing they'll never take from you" one of the guys says "you wanna grab a drink" making it sound like a continuation of the couplet (the one thing they'll never take from u is getting a drink w ur friend never give up hope)

2022 atlanta

"make it beautiful with your lights" "oh, say LESS gerard" already makes this video peak. audience member #74 you will always be famous. personally i dont like fancam type videos of the vocalist (show me guitarists 😫) the audience singing in this vid SO LOVELY....those are the hearts that DO beat like ours...backup vocal!! give it up for backup vocal!!

2023 melbourne

MY SHOW so i rank it 10/10. i like that this person uploaded the opening preamble cause im always referencing 'for NOW AT LEASTTT'. i did think they were gonna play an unreleased one cause of the radio comment. unbiased this is a peak performance and im so glad i was there T__T for me this song was the 'you're not alone' moment that most ppl get with famous last words. standing there w my torch in the air hearing 'these are their hearts but their hearts dont beat like ours' and realising the ours is question is an entire stadium full of ppl and thinking what the hell have i been doing isolating myself as if its just me out here. wish i could time travel and teleport just for the purpose of going to more mcr shows. like get a time travel bureau permit or something

2023 sydney

long preamble in this video, state of the world being having to tell everyone to drink water and step back. love the warmup yell, this performance is actually beautiful T__T 1st verse takes me out every time. gonna lock this in as my fave of the recordings, which is saying a lot cause i would never say smth nice about sydney, its in my blood to be a hater. personally a HUGE fan of when the vocalist does smth different to the studio but the audience is still singing the version they know (happens here in the bridge, bellissimo 👌👌)

i do wish atleast 1 live version kept 'like ghosts in the snow' (they didnt do vampires..at my show...OTL its ok i will live a long and prosperous life...)

[stevie-petey]

SPEAKING OF SEASON FOUR

I'm so worried that the duffer brothers are gonna fuck up jancy. That flirting with Steve and Nancy in season four was not cute. Like jancy isn't my favorite ship in the series (because I'm in love with Jonathan but that's not the point) but we've established that Nancy DOESN'T love Steve. Did you see Jonathan's face when Nancy started talking about how Steve's grown up? You could tell it made him insecure, It's foreshadowing the love triangle all over again and there's no point in keeping it. It doesn't add to the story it's just another stupid plot for drama, which we don't really need!

It also takes away from Nancy's character!! She's not the kind of girl to just go from guy to guy. She's also not the kind of girl to flirt with her ex who's clearly still got feelings for her while she has a boyfriend!! Even if it was unintentional, like subconsciously, still she's smarter than that and she cares about Jonathan and Steve's feelings she wouldn't risk hurting the both of them at once.

I mean if we're talking about come home it could work as something for bug and Steve to work through I guess ( I don't wanna talk about it too much because it's so far away and there's a lot more we have to go through to get to that point) but it's so outside of Nancy's character. Maybe she's just confused cause she almost died and saw Steve get seriously hurt? But still Nancy isn't a homewrecker and she's not a super jealous or promiscuous person. Even if she didn't know about how close bug and Steve have grown she wouldn't go after him. But strictly speaking of stranger things now. She hardly interacted with Steve in season four, which is fair she's still in highschool and Steve has a job. They have their own shit going on. It's understandable. I feel like Nancy's character gets misconstrued a lot, partially because she keeps getting reduced to a love interest. I just hope Nancy and Jonathan don't fall apart because of how much they've changed during their time away. I love Steve but he's not right for Nancy and she's not right for Steve. I hope they Don't ruin such a great relationship with so much potential. Like I see the problems in jancy but I can see how well it could work if given the chance.

honestly it just feels like the writers dont KNOW what to do with nancy anymore or even jancy. i adore them and think theyre so sweet together but the writers are just ,,,, pissing me off. bringing back steves feelings for her and nancys weird feelings for him was just ??? unnecessary and NO ONE was asking for it

i will say however i do see the vision for stancy. i think they did have a good shot at being in love and happy, theyre right person wrong time, but if that was the plan since season 1 then ,,,, it shouldve been touched on earlier ?!?!!? we dont see nancys feelings for steve at ALL until season 4 like even WHILE THEY WERE DATING. its stupid. and like u said: nancy isnt like that !! she’d never directly hurt anyone :( shes so kind and loyal and the writers are mean

and jancy ,,, ugh they have sm potential if the writers would just figure them out. they keep having the same argument of jon wanting to care for his family and nancy wanting to uncover and explore shit its just. ugh.

for season 4 i will DEF be retconning some shit because yeah. im not dealing with a repeat love square that will be resolved literally THIS SEASON in season 2. feels so dumb to be so repetitive. i will however bring in some elements in that love triangle back in 4 but not in any definitive or dramatic way. smh

[hello-naptiime]

Hi gang

I see were talking about Jonathan Piss ass ToiletJon again

And as someone who was fucking THERE, WORKING FOR HIM WHEN EVERYTHING DROPPED

Oh my FUCKING GOD AM I SO PISSED OFF.

Welcome to my rant/vent

Mutuals look away Im sorry

Tw// for grooming and manipulation. General gross things in that area

Also Jinbop.

First of all Ashlie and Jon did was gross, but where Jon failed at literally everything Ashlie succeeded.

When the news dropped of what happened in 2017 Jon made a fucking video of him crying like a little man child, and then pressed charges (also doxxed himself like an idiot) WHICH IS INSANE BEHAVIOR. Even in his written respone he was only making excuses.

At that time I was in very close connection with him, I was on his build team, I played multiple games with him. He would come into vc and hang out with us for several hours, you could consider us friend maybe! I wouldnt.

But I was at the very least in a lot of personal servers.

So when things dropped I knew almost all of the behind the scenes BULLSHIT that was happening. How everyone waited for it to blow over and stuck by him. (I got kicked out of servers too cause people knew i was against him but I was still told everything by friends who were still in there)

Then February happened. And so much more, much worse things got exposed. From only his end. I won't mention who was involved, out of privacy reasons and because I dont want to drag them into this. But holy shit dude everyone left him after that. It was over, his gross behavior with minors (included me now that i think about, sir why are you calling me and my friends cute we are 15-) His awful and manipulative behavior with people he finds useful, how he treats his teams

. He never credited anything, I made his goddamn Dimensions s2 designs, Eddie made the skins. Only Eddie was mentioned, once on a stream.

Eddie also made designs and skins for Rosethorn, and got credited in video no less.

Its not that hard and yet!

The main point is

He was still acting in 2020, the incident was in 2017. And he was acting like this, in late 2020. Into 2021.

I wanted him to get better. I really did, I had been hyperfixated on this group of people for years it hurt a lot.

But its been almost three years and he infact has stayed the same!

He is a grown ass man acting like a toddler on a public twitter account, what makes this man some one to respect in any sort of way.

Theres so much more shit I know about this man, that I can't fucking say because of the people involved not giving me permission too. And I respect that. Thats their story to tell.

Now ashlie on the other hand.

Ashlie made a concise apology and owned up to her actions, shit she made sure not to happen again. She went to fucking therapy, she broke off that relationship first and has made so much effort to distance herself from that and apologize everyday of her life.

She went to therapy after breaking things off, and she went again after the callout just to double fucking check she wasnt a horrible person.

She initially handled everything that happened in 2017 in private, like youre supposed to do. Not have a public twitter meltdown. And in late 2020 still handled mostly everything privately. She wrote out a full explanation and apology that is still very visible on her yt channel, not her twt her full 100k subscriber yt channel

I THINK, THATS GROWTH and she should be respected for that. She's actively changed as a person from the 20yr that made mistakes

And what's crazy is that Max and Ross still make youtube videos with her.

Max and Ross, YKNOW. The people who made sure fucking Jinbop got arrested and stomp Sky's name into the fucking ground for the shit that Sky did. I 100% trust those two to make a decision about a person in their circle when theyre doing some FUCKED SHIT.

IN FACT, THEY DID DROP ASHLIE WHEN THE ALLEGATIONS CAME OUT. SHE WAS IMMEDIATELY KICKED OUT OF EVERYTHING INVOLVING THEM

And they came back. They came back and started making new things and videos with her, Ross is an active participant in almost all of her videos.

I think that speaks wonders about her.

Don't drag her name through the ground I respect that woman and all of her endeavors in the future, she has more than made up for the fact.

Jon is still an awful person, and I dont think he will ever change. He's had more than ample time to and acts like whinny child on Twitter. Actively tries to pull nostalgia bait on his dying yt channel and mocks his ex "friends'" work. I want him gone from the youtube sphere and to get an actual life.

[s0lar-ch3ri]

making this a series ig (spoilers, mostly minor, idk well just have to ROLL WITH IT AND SEE)

episode is starting from zero, episode 1 (quick note: i love how excited everyone is aty the beggining for this camoain, so heartwarming) "'for all you audio listeners your about to hear what a man catching on fire sounds like' 'and also a house catching on fire'" "so its like 3 belts? yeah" "this character sucks not enough belts" ok chip hasnt been described and hes already drawn blood "how much trouble does this woman have keeping her pants up holy shit" "anything that looks valueable, take it" "whats a barrel" instant love with this campaine from here "ill carry this" "ok" "but w h y" “this is the fastest I've ever committed arson in a campaign” "ok as soon as we light this ill let them know so they die an honorable death" "but the barrel is terrified of fire" "so this is a barrel" "lets blow up this popcicle place" hes trying guys "grab a barrel as well i need to study" "in you multitude of belts" when did i forget jay had so many and got bullied for it "i hope she didnt find any more belts in there" ok but whenever i hear marshal jon being described the dopamine just floods out "oh! that wasnt the bathroom!" "no it was not, it was the room where we got the explosives" "WHAT ARE YOU GRABBING THE EXPLOSIVES FOR" "to blow up your ship" bro i loved how gill interacted with people before what an idiot /pos "gill make a-dont make anything you told the truth" gotta love grizzly doing a save "and jay you go to kick this man in the back of the knee and you do you realise that his calf muscles are literally built like boulders" "i want to put my hand on his shoulder" and so it begins the convincing! yes gill go!! "hang on let me see that...big j" "JON, ITS YOUR CHOIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE" "as the door is blown off-" "did somebody fart?" ah yes gill you lit the explosive that makes people fart" "BACHOW!" please dont stop this man from making random noises its great "is your skin always wet or is it dry?" GRIZZ ASKING THE REAL QUESTIONS!! "you are to learn a lesson from the moisture master!" remember when gill made his title canon now, its 6 seconds to 20 minutes in "THOSE PIRATES!" man knowing him now its kinda strange to hear him hunting them down "i just occasonally grab people and im like 'you can be better'" cant believe gill went from telling people to be better to just immedately trying to solve their problems (like not even 2 episodes later if im remembering right) "excellent jay you are a fog frog" "im gonna steal somebody's hat then run out the door" jay stealing chips job now "im passing the barrel out the window" i remember when hed just be a problem for any stealth kind of movements "MY FRIEND SAID HE DOESNT WANT YOU TO HAVE AN ADVANTAGE" "there is still time" ITS STARTING WOW "you get the sense this guy cannot see very well" i forgot he had sight problems "YOU BLEW A HOLE IN OUR TOWER" "and you blew a hole in my heart" ACCIDENTAL FORESHADOWING AND A GREAT MOMENT FOR SHIPPERS?? HOW MUCH IS CHARLIE FEEDING US WITH GILLION TIDESTRIDER!?!!? (spoiler: a lot) "can i make a persuasion check?" "sure" if charlie never said this we would never have the future pirate jon, IF HE NEVER GOT A 16 THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED "you cant tell if i cry a single tear or if im usually that moist" the fact that he is can make for an angsty hc that nobody really would notice gill crying "jon didnt make it" oh this better not be another accidental foreshadow "you see, a pink frogtupus" everyone being excited for the preztal reveal was also all of us huh dont lie! "i look like a big flounder" fanartists canon gill description /j "god damn it big j" friendly reminder that (from what ive seen) marshal jon is the only character gill gave a nickname, and he had met him like 20+ minutes ago "YA BOY GILL ABOUTA BE FRIED" "ima just grab them both and jump" ngl i cant put my finger on it but calmer gillion probs the chaos control thats needed because of him being feral "jon this is for you" *proceeds to get an 8* (would have been epic if he suceeded that charisma tho) "jon, the power is- eyeh" "i look over wistfully (?) 'but w h y?'"

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Grieving please! Sounds angsty so I’m instantly interested

WELL- You see. It is angsty, my sadeek (arabic for friend), BUT. Idk if i still wanna write it or not. So why dont i just post everything here? (Also, tysm so much for the ask, i dont have a mirror rn but im blushing, thank you)

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Everyone in this family (except Damian) have lost their parents. So write about each of them going to the graves of their parents and describing what they’ve done with the family and how everyone is behaving. 

Bruce talks to Martha and Thomas Wayne.

Dick talks to John and Mary Grayson.

Jason talks to Willis Todd and Catherine Todd (also Sheila Haywood)

Tim talks to Jack and Janet Drake.

Cass talks to David Cain and Lady Shiva (idk if they’re dead or alive, but if they’re alive then she can just be sending a message to them while at her ballet recital or something. And she sees the Waynes in the front row, some with tears, some with not, but all of them with admiration and she smiles, knowing that they feel more family and home than her parents.)

Damian doesn’t talk to Bruce and Talia. He gets an assignment from school to write about his family in an English essay. He scoffs saying that this is child’s work. Jon reminds him that he is a child and suggests he just act as if he’s writing a diary then submit it since that’s what he does. So Damian, at night, writes about how annoying everyone is. Then he hovers and adds a ‘But…’ After that, he writes about Dick and the things he taught him and the times they spent together, he writes about Jason and how they bond and make fun of people and the different ways they can die and how Jason tells him stories about his time as a street kid cuz he knows that Damian secretly loves hearing them, he writes about Tim and how annoying he is, but that he sometimes sticks up for Damian. He pretends he isn’t doing any favors, but Damian once heard him confronting one of the bullies’ in his class and their parents about how he can completely wreck their business and send them shipped off to Madagascar. He writes about how Tim always defends him and blocks bullets and knives from hitting his back (he writes it like a metaphor, but little does the teacher know…) and how he got his brothers to come to dinner more often after he saw him eating alone. He knows it was Tim cuz everyone except him was sending secret glances at him the whole dinner. He writes about how he and Cass playfully fight and spend time together drawing and how she sometimes teaches some of her ballet moves. He writes about Bruce and how he thinks he failed as a father, but the fact that he’s alive and functioning, especially as someone like him (a vigilante) deserves more credit than given. He writes about Alfred and how he feels like he’s his real grandfather. 

Finally, it’s Alfred. This part is really short. But he’s in the kitchen, pretending to prepare the roasted chicken, but secretly listening to the dinner bickering. He smiles, glad that he stayed in this family. 

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Ik ur not in the fandom, but im not sure if u know the characters, but i hope u get at least the gist of it. I legit ranted about this (as all of my fics start), but then later when i came back i was like "hmmm, eh, idk" so. Ye.

Thanks again for the ask, amigo.