#I LOVE IT YES GIVE ME DOOMED YURI
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star-and-moon-shipper · 3 months ago
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”tell her the truth so that’s she will watch the stars though tears instead of following the one cold star that is our destiny? no, no will bear. let her think i never loved her” but it’s walburga to effie
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technically-human · 2 months ago
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I don't know if you watch anime
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But why does Sayaka and Kirari from Kakegurui give me the Lesbian version of Stobotnik-
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Sayaka and Stone are both the assistants of someone who is crazy but also smart.(By the way, why are Sayaka and Stone's poses the same?😭)
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Stone and Sayaka are both in love with and admire the person they serve, and they do everything for that person and are very loyal to their masters - they would even give their lives for them.
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And unfortunately Sayaka and Stone both lost the person they loved(Kirari didn't die but Sayaka still can't see her again so I guess that counts)😭 And it devastated them
So yes
Doomed Yuri🤝Doomed Yaoi
(That's why I think we need a Kirari and Sayaka Au for Stobotnik)
I watch anime, though not as much as I used to when I was younger and had more patience for certain tropes and stuff. I'm currently watching the Anne Shirley one!
I haven't watched this one, but seeing how you describe it, seems to be the same flavor of toxic ship! That's pretty cool!! And the art style looks nice~
I'm not sure how old this anime is so imma tag that as spoilers just in case
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strangestcase · 2 years ago
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tomblr discourse in the monster high universe must be something else.
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What would I do without cherry smoothies... probably die again 💔​
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Of freaking course the frilly daywalker is a vegan 😒​ bet you do witchcraft too you dirty hippie
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🝢🜊🝣🝗🜚🝰
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WTF is that lol
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i t burns. wh at did you do to me .
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^-^
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Ok but Dead Fast: Night of the Living (2002) has no business being considered the worst Dead Fast movie when the MCU (Murder Cinematic Universe) not only retconned his origin story to make him a virus zombie rather than a curse zombie (which throws off his entire arc about being something more than his deeds!) AND made him be allied with B.L.I.G.H.T. of all organizations because Like say what you will about NOTL and the forced heterosexual romantic plot but at least 1) it gets what makes Dead Fast a hero and 2) GIVES HIS LOVE INTEREST A PERSONALITY AND SOMETHING TO DO
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Literally
Also they made the villain Dr. Igorable's motivations so laughable like..... so his wife got turned into a zombie and he wants to cure her? Ok? Did she ask for it? She doesn't even have any groaning lines. Im not even a zombie but that was offensive as hell. Like in the original comics he wants to straight up undo all forms of zombism forever
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NO FR LIKE....... so suddenly the eugenics obsessed human is tragic because being a zombie must be such a tragedy you guyyyysssss -_- and wanting to get rid of an entire monster type is ok. I swear that movie has turned monster attitudes towards zombies back into the 80s
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I am not sure if I'm overstepping here but, furthermore, the addition of Pendulum to the movie was unnecesary. Stereotyping shapeshifters as untrustworthy and traitorous is something of a past era. Either leave the character behind, or change it entirely.
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Jackson I love you and I love your takes. but you type like a Victorian in his deathbed ;-;
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The MCU is so dreadful, it's irrevocably turned me into one.
#It has also substracted years off my lives.
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^ aquarium!
#lagoona's originals #ocean #sealife #ah-! so refreshing <- aesth tag
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Not to vague anyone but some of you have to shut the freak up about the ocean. You don't see me making little dioramas of the Malebolge because I'm not a little cringelet like you lmao
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If you don't freaking love the ocean don't follow the ocean tag. Yes that goes for @666firepit666, square up and fight me if you're so brave Heath!!!!
#lagoona's originals #personal #more skulls for my skull collection!!!
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Day 1 no toxic doomed yuri
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WRONG SIDEBLOG
#stop reblogging this
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Got a new arm! Can't wait to try it out!
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try it out how 🤨​
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Building a wretched creature out of corpses, of course!
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OH that was a double entendre! You should be ashamed of yourself!
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I would never use my arms for violent purposes!
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Lagoona dragged me into the pool and now my hair is out 😡​
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Skull issue.
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skull issue
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Skull issue. Take the L
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Skull issue ^-^
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skull issue lmao
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Skull issue! I dont know what that means but I'm sure it relates to your experience!
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SKULL ISSUEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!
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Your own cousin 🥲​
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I AM NOT RELATED TO ANY BALD PEOPLE
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Alright, who stole my sinister amulet?
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allpiesforourown · 2 months ago
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Okay, I have some comments (agreement) on three of your posts, so I'll just put them in one ask, lol.
First of all, you are SO RIGHT about toxic yuri. Oh my God. I'm a bi woman and I'm usually more attracted to mlm works like danmei, and a lot of yuri just doesn't do it for me, so I'm just constantly wondering if I've got, like, internalized misogyny? What's the deal here? But then there's the occasional yuri like Madoka and I go absolutely fucking feral and make it my whole personality for months. Like, yes, give me all of the toxic yuri, all of the doomed yuri, all of the girls and women being obsessive and flawed. That's what I like about danmei, really, the obsession and the character flaws and the angsty yearning. But women are never allowed to go crazy or even be a little flawed like that, not even in fiction. Often, it's because creators and audiences alike judge female characters harsher (a reflection of real life, obviously) and so they have to make the female characters "perfect" or they won't be liked. But their being perfect is exactly what I dislike, because it's not realistic, and it's not interesting! So, yeah, absolutely, that's why toxic yuri is so much more appealing, especially compared to a lot of others.
Second of all, you're also so right about Yue Qingyuan. When I first started SVSSS, I thought, "Oh, so he kinda sucks," 'cause he clearly knew about Binghe's abuse but only gave mild advice to SQQ to maybe treat him a little less harshly. But then, he kinda does seem like a really good guy later, and especially with the realization of his tragic background, it's easy to forgive him. But so often the fandom reduces him to lovable idiot who's never done anything wrong and like. He was totally fine with Shen Jiu abusing a child. It's not like he was unaware of it, and while he's not malicious, he was willing to turn a blind eye to it. We obviously know the reason why later, but even so. I do love him, though, but I feel like sometimes the fandom whitewashes some of the characters too much. Like, Shen Jiu had a tragic backstory, but that only explains his actions, it doesn't excuse them. Of course you can love him anyway, but I think if you're whitewashing his character into something he's not, then you don't really love the character, or else you'd love him the way he actually is. And Shen Jiu's abuse of Binghe is very important to, like, everything, because the cycle of abuse is such a central theme. Shen Jiu and his own victim, Bingge, demonstrate how abuse can turn victims into abusers and continue the cycle. Shizun and Binghe (Bingmei) demonstrate how the cycle can be stopped.
Finally, that post you reblogged about social media, and your tags about how you open TikTok, block 50 people, and then leave is sooo true. The danmei fandom, especially artists, are, at least to my knowledge, a lot more active on Twitter than Tumblr, so I go on Twitter to check when I'm bored, and. I open it, I block 50 people while getting mad just the way they want me to, and then I close it. Then I open it again later! I guess I'm a glutton for punishment because seriously. I need to stop.
Anyway, thanks! Keep on fighting the good fight (shizunfucking)!
1. YEAH. Like so many yuri stories are just "they're cutely blushing before mustering up the courage to hold hands" and its just boring. Are they allowed to show any emotion other than uwu puppy love I'm a grown ass woman
2. Yue Qingyuan's cycle of abuse being ignored is so sad like yes he started out as a slave. But he is now the leader of one of the most powerful sects in the cultivation world, and he uses his authority to enable and protect abusers. Why erase such a big part of his story
3. TWITTER IS DEADDD its all blue checkmark engagement baiting with racism and even within the danmei community the people on Twitter will jump anyone who has an opinion they don't like it's so evil there
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who-let-a-bird-in · 1 year ago
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Pt 2 of batfam as things me or my friends have said
Steph- “if you ever refer to my mother’s relationship as ‘doomed yuri’ again I’m mauling you.”
Tim and Dick- “why is it staring at me-
Don’t call a baby an it??”
Cass- “you couldn’t beat that information out of me, actually no you couldn’t shoot it out of me”
(For context this was said while baking cookies)
Jason and Roy- “well for one thing it’s incredibly hot
The temperature kind or the other kind?
The temperature kind you fucking dumbass.”
Damian and Tim- “it looks like we’re gonna have to kill this guy.
IM THE GUY???”
Tim- “I’ve gotta give up my 15 year old (I’m 17) in the divorce with a man I’m not married to”
Duke- “you know something gives me the feeling that the speed limit isn’t *70*.” (This was in a 45)
Duke- “(Bruce)’s new thing is telling people that if they don’t take care of their kids he will, and when I asked him about it he looked at me and said ‘I’m already doing it with you.’ so I think I got adopted-?”
More under the cut
Jason- “did people say anything else about my brother?
Apparently he made a bunch of people be gay
what”
Jason and Dick- “Courtney Love is my favorite problematic blonde woman
Really I thought it was your mother?”
Tim- “I’m not a twink I’m just trans”
Talia- “so you’re a mom against cat boys?
Yes. In every sense of the meaning.”
(Shout out to my mom for saying that👍)
Commissioner Gordon- (in the most exasperated voice) “don’t go jump off the roof.”
Barbara- “it is 45 degrees(Fahrenheit) and 7:45 am. Shut the fuck up.”
Bruce- “now what’s shit do you want that’s on Amazon so Santa can contribute to capitalism?”
Damian- “white people food tastes like olive oil and depression”
Cass- “listening to a woman scream into a microphone and call it music is very therapeutic to me”
Bonus-
Constantine- “my advice, if you’re sad, alone, and gay, summon a demon it worked for me”
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nebby-exists · 7 months ago
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A Bouquet to never Gift; A bouquet to never Show
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(doomed yuri?????) if the caption don’t give it away,
dragonberry and Primrose are exes-
(did a simple edit rather than my usual detailed ones-)
for more elaboration, they broke up much before Dragonberry’s change, mostly since Primrose cookie (who I have yet to elaborate is kinda cursed?) doesn’t want to end up getting hollyberry hurt because of her(I’ll one day show more specifically on it, though I’ll let yall theorize until then).
While yes Prim loves her to death, she loved her too much to ever want her curse harming her. Of course Hollyberry was abit buttered about it but accepted it, only if they could still stay close even if as friends. Despite Prim’s paranoia, she agrees. When dragonberry does change and Prim finds out what she had done, Primrose felt the holly she still loved and cared for was practically gone. The two would barely contact (mostly prim refusing to see her because of how painful such a thought was), though dragonberry, still caring for her, wanted her to come back. basically wanting her back, since despite everything she somehow still retains that love for the magician.
Primrose can’t get herself to see her, not with how she changed for the worst, despite the many promises they’ve made. It didn’t matter how much she loved her still inside, she can’t bring herself to side with her. Not anymore…she lost the pyre that kept her going, only for it to become a Hellish blaze of Pride….
Dragonberry seems to not let that stop her..Afterall, she’ll come back one way or another. The dear magician never stopped loving her, and would be pleased greatly to be in her arms again and by her side! She’ll be back, one way or another……right?…
so tldr: Primrose and Dragonberry are exes entirely. they still love each other, but Primrose feels she lost the love of her life. Dragonberry wants to get her back. Both be missin’ but never kissin’ anymoe.
dragonberry/ Beast Ancients AU belongs to
@cuppajj
primrose belongs to me :3
quick reminder that primrose isn’t exactly a Au oc, though this is what would be like for the Au version of her here.
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sleepi-toasti · 25 days ago
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DAY EIGHT -- WITH... friends?
(oh god it's time to release this mess from drafts aughh)
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i'm sorry ... i love you - i really do. but i can't forgive you. no matter how much i want to, i can't ... please ...
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AUGHHHHHHH THEY MAKE ME SICK /POS HFHFKSKSFBSKS
TAYSHER THE DOOMED AND TRAGIC YURI
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TW!: angst and some sensitive topics
if anyone is wondering why taylor looks different, is bc basically in my lore, once taylor realized that asher is just an unstable person who is basically neglected and put down by their parents, taylor feels sorry and idk how to explain but enlightenment just hits her and she kinda awakens. power of enlightenment ig idk 😭 btw this enlightenment happens days after asher did that thing and isolated themself from their friends. the "can we talk" thing in one of my earlier posts happens after enlightenment (so before ppl start to forgive asher)
taylor really does want to forgive asher, but two things stand in the way: morals and species. stealing money and basically inflicting trauma onto the entire school is a bad thing (obviously), so there's that.
but the main thing (which also goes hand in hand with the morals part) is the fact that taylor is an angel and asher is a demon. asher is more specifically a shadow demon, which is a worse and more powerful subspecies of normal demons. shadow demons can't be redeemed. yes, elliot has demon horns, wings, and a tail. but he is half-demon, and he is really pure. half demons and regular demons can be redeemed (elliot has never done anything wrong so he never needed to be redeemed), but asher cannot be redeemed because of the view of their species.
it's well known in my lore that shadow demons are basically born with bad morals and they can't be fixed, but some shadow demons are just unstable with severe trauma. for asher, their parents are essentially just assholes who only give an actual damn about the high grades and money rather than asher's desires and their stability. asher puts their anger and stress on their friends, more specifically elliot and tyler. then asher does reckless and rather evil things like taking their dad's car to avoid the official ceremony that they were required to attend and stealing all of that money from those students at the party.
asher stole the car just because they felt like it, but the reason asher took the money was to convince their parents that they were making the lots of money that they wanted them to make in some hopes that their parents will praise them for the money. still, taking money is a very bad thing to do so asher can't even be redeemed for that, considering that there was at least fifty kids at that party and asher stole hundreds of thousands of dollars.
according to what society says about their species, taylor is an angel with good morals and a good heart, and asher is a heartless shadow demon with no good intent whatsoever. taylor is the only one to see the truth, but society won't let her forgive asher. angels can never forgive shadow demons...
well most of the MU students decide to leave the whole issue alone once taylor started dating asher and just clarifying asher's situation - idk how the ending of the lore is yet but so far it's that taylor and asher said fuck off to their fates 💀
(and if you're wondering why taylor had demon horns, her father was a half demon half angel who redeemed himself so she inherited the horns)
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that was a lot to type
anyway @hayati-gacha i really hope that wasn't confusing or too triggering for you bc most of the lore i make is always like this (especially my mada4 au lore and it's with molly AAAA) sobsobsob
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silkenedstars · 3 months ago
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Hi this got way more attention than what I initially expected (5 hearts) so I took the liberty to rewrite the entire essay, hence why it was delayed for… almost a month, I’m so sorry about that skjdgns
Anyway, as Sunset Wayfarer and Ardour Blossom Moth are both abnormalities with little information available for them (Sunset Wayfarer more so than Ardour Blossom Moth), there will inevitably be people disagreeing with what I've concluded from both abnormalities. I had that very experience with my friend who was helping me edit this essay and honestly? If you have any interpretations of these two that differ from my own, please let me know! I love hearing other people’s thoughts on things.
I will also be referring to both abnormalities by their initials (SW and ABM) to preserve my sanity since this is going to be a long, long post. (As of editing, this essay is 27 pages on google docs god help me) I will also be referring to both abnormalities with feminine pronouns because I love doomed yuri (but you're free to refer to them with masc pronouns for doomed yaoi, or like, literally any pronoun bc it doesn't matter).
Also special thanks to the limbus company wiki (wiki.gg not the fandom one) as this essay would've taken even longer to write without their work.
Okay okay so to start off: what Sunset Wayfarer is supposed to be.
There's barely any information about her, if at all thanks to her remaining an encounter-only abno (unlike ABM, who has a lot going for her) but we can still get the general gist of what she's supposed to be.
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This is the only image we have of her and look at how peaceful this scene is? I'm not the best at describing pictures by any means but I think we can all agree that SW here gives off a friendly vibe.
If you come from lobcorp then you know that just looking friendly isn't enough, but fortunately SW acts just as friendly as she looks. Regardless of what you choose to do for her mirror dungeon event, she'll heal your party and her dialogue all throughout is understanding of your choice.
Now for her personality, yes, she has one. Most abnormalities in the mirror dungeon encounter do but I digress.
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Starting from the first set of dialogue you're given when you first come across her, SW's personality is pretty straightforward.
"Look at those butterflies! Aren't they just beautiful?" - This is the very first thing that she says to Dante the moment her encounter starts. Not only is she acknowledging Dante's (and the sinners') presence with that sentence, but she's also bringing their attention to the butterflies surrounding her, beings that she deems beautiful.
Here, with these two sentences, you already get the sense that SW is someone who appreciates the beauty of the world around her; someone who focuses on the positive side of things.
"And gander at that sunset, too! Really makes you want to go for a stroll." - Here again, she's bringing attention to something that she likes seeing. The second sentence also indicates that she prefers the outdoors, but considering that we encounter her in the woods, I feel like that's a given.
"Why don't you stop for a moment and take a breather here?" - And here, not only is she asking Dante and the sinners to take a moment to rest, but going off of what she has said previously, she's also asking them to take a moment to take in their surroundings.
"Something yellow gestures warmly at you." - Dante that's rude. Interestingly though, and do correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the only instance when an abnormality that's offering help has their action described to be warm, or any other synonym of friendly.
For Fairy Long Legs, we only get dialogue from the abnormality and no commentary from Dante.
For Faelantern, we only get Dante's narration but they don't use any adverbs. Sure, the small fairy is smiling, maybe even dancing, but it tells us nothing of their intention. For all we know, the fairy could be planning to murder Dante and the sinners... which they are, but I digress.
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Next up is the first choice we get to pick, as well as the rewards for it.
"Wasn't it tiring coming all the way here?" - SW is being compassionate here. She had the option to stay quiet and leave Dante and the sinners to rest by themselves, but instead, she asks about the group to see how they're doing.
"Really, check out those butterflies. Just watching them will warm your heart." - And right after, she tells them something that will help them. "Do this, it'll help you" is what she's saying here pretty much. Even though SW doesn't know anything about the group, she still wants to help them: she's caring.
"You looked at the butterflies as the voice suggested. They indeed fill the heart with a certain warmth." - Aside from this proving that Dante is really gullible (nothing new, we all already knew this) and showing us that SW was being honest, this also implies that she has healing capabilities. This I will get back to in detail later.
"Looks like some of them want to tag along!" - This part is relatively clear. SW has spent so long in the place of her encounter that she can understand how the butterflies act.
"A kaleidoscope of butterflies started following you, even after you left that scenic spot." - This part is a little difficult to figure out in relation to SW, but I think I worked out something. Even if they're two separate entities, SW and the butterflies surrounding her are connected at the end of the day. They are a part of her just as she's a part of them. It's difficult to say if they are the same being, but they share a connection which is why I'm confident that the butterflies decided to tag along with Dante because they were acting on SW's worry and concern over the group.
And at last, the ego gifts and healing. She heals all allies regardless and those with lust skills additionally heal their sp. Firstly, since sinners with lust skills got additional healing, this must mean that SW is an abnormality related to lust. This I will get into later too. Secondly, the ego gift:
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There's another mention of lust, so SW being related to lust is even more likely. But do you see it, the ego name?
Eclipse of Scarlet Moths.
I'll be honest, when I first thought about SW and ABM being a perfect ship, I didn't think about this ego at all at first. Seeing it later was a funny coincidence though.
Eclipse of Scarlet Moths... huh? It's an interesting name for the ego since we know that the scarlet moths in question are the butterflies that were hanging around SW, so why the name change? I think there's a point to be made about the eclipse part of the ego name too, but I'm not familiar enough with astronomy to make that point.
And lastly, we have the option to ignore her and leave:
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"You must be very busy then!" - She's understanding from the get-go. She doesn't try to get the group to stay, if they want to go then they go.
"It made the same gesture as when it first greeted us. Perhaps it was waving goodbye all along." - These two sentences are interesting as they imply that she's used to seeing people come and go. This is a theory of mine, but I like to imagine that SW used to be an abnormality in one of the side branches of L Corp, one that the employees visited frequently because of the respite she offers them in a way that allows them to extract energy from her, but I digress.
"Another time, I suppose!" - She's still positive here, and judging by her words, she's willing to let the group rest with her the next time they drop by, whenever that will be.
And at the end, she heals the group in an unconventional way, but healing is healing so it doesn't matter. This does imply though that SW likely noticed that the sinners were feeling "tired" (her words) from the get-go. This means that she's observant as well.
I do want to point out here that her healing, both for when you accept her offer or reject her, isn’t only literal but metaphorical as well. Specifically, it’s a symbolism for how kindness affects other people. If you accept it, if you let yourself be vulnerable so you can connect with another person, you're rewarded for that connection via that person helping you out. That's also why identities with lust skills get bonus sp healing, thanks to lust and its themes of wanting to connect with others.
On the other hand for rejecting, you're never punished for doing so because it's understandable why you wouldn't want to open up to a complete stranger, regardless of whatever their intent may be. But the healing is still there, because that original kindness that stranger offered was there. It shows that even if you reject any offer from others to help you, you'll still carry that small kindness shown to you wherever you go.
Or like, you'll remember for 3 turns then forget about it but I digress.
So what is her personality? What about her healing capabilities? What does her being associated with lust mean for her?
Her personality is a mix of the traits she has shown us so far: she's an optimist who takes the time to appreciate the world around her and its beauty, she likes taking her time to do just that, she likes spending her time outdoors, she's caring even towards strangers, she's warm, friendly, she's compassionate, she's helpful, she's honest, she's understanding, she's gentle and she's supportive.
There's an obvious lack of character flaws, but she doesn't need them. As of now, SW is an abnormality that's the manifestation of goodwill, it wouldn't make sense for her to have character flaws. That said, you can definitely give her some, or even better, write her in such a way that even her positive character traits end up fucking up a situation.
...Sorry I said that like there's going to be anyone other than me writing SW x ABM content. Anyway.
Her healing capabilities are next. I'm sure most of you guessed this already by now but she heals, because her healing is a reflection of her care and kindness. This isn't just that though, her ego gift shows that she's capable of harm as well, it's just that she'd much rather help others rather than harm them.
And lastly: What does her being associated with lust mean for her?
If I made this before the check up event came out, I wouldn't be able to answer this. Buuuut since I'm making this after the check up event, I can answer it!
Remember how Hohenheim described the lust pettaclum? Here are the screenshots in case you don't:
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Ironically Yi Sang's explanation in particular is closer to SW than Hohenheim's explanation. SW might not exactly be sharing her knowledge or her ideas, but we do know of something that she likes sharing with others, don't we? That being the beauty of the world that she lives in.
There is one problem with this though, that being that while SW does want to spread her joy that she finds in the world (thus a desire to propagate), it's not to the where she's obsessed with doing that. We established earlier that she's not forceful.
Despite this, she's still associated with lust. But what if instead of that, it was love that she actually has a connection to? Sharing the beauty of the world with others, helping along strangers that she comes across are both forms of love, aren't they?
Anyway enough with this love stuff and enough with SW, it's time to talk about Ardour Blossom Moth!
To start off, she has soooo much more information available: observation logs, three different events, 3 ego gifts, Ishmael's ego for her, Faust's LCE ego for her, background art, enemy information, several sprites and attack animations.
ABM is also the one who puts in the doomed part of the doomed yuri she and SW make up.
Anyway, due to the sheer amount of information available for ABM, I'll explain everything there is to her first then I'll connect them all. And after that? The yuri explanation all of you have been waiting for.
So to start off, Ishmael's ABS ego:
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Let's analyse the art first!
The first thing I noticed is the lack of ABM herself. I checked Ishmael's sprite and there's nothing that could indicate that ABM is hiding on her in this art either. I will come back to this later, this is important.
The next thing I noticed was the environment, specifically the corpses that are surrounding Ishmael. Some of them are reaching out towards her as well, maybe seeking redemption of sorts? I'll get into this later too.
Notice how everything is burnt? This does fit in with what ABM is on the surface, but I believe there's a deeper meaning to this as well. (Hint: it's doomed yuri)
I think someone could make a point with her clothes too but that definitely won't be me since I know next to nothing about fashion. If anyone that’s an expert on fashion is reading this, I’d love to know your thoughts.
"Though I can't guide you... I can offer a warm embrace."
Now we have her quote here. This is where I mention that egos aren't all that reliable to learn the story of an abnormality since they're more about how a sinner connects to a certain abnormality, but I don't think we need to worry about that in this one instance since I believe that there's a strong connection between how Ishmael openly acted on her obsession during her canto and ABM's personality in general. This I will get into later, of course.
But the line itself is interesting.
"Though I can't guide you..." has interesting implications. If we go with the corpses reaching towards Ishmael in hope of redemption, then doesn't this mean that Ishmael (or ABM in this case) believes herself to be too far gone for redemption herself, or not the being of salvation that the corpses thought her to be?
Then the following words; "I can offer a warm embrace." Yes please I want the hottest embrace you can offer— I mean what who said that? Ahem. It's an offer, a compensation for something that she can't offer. It's interesting that she offers this, too. Did she see that the corpses were yearning for salvation and her warm embrace will be the closest thing she can give them, or is it that she herself yearns for redemption and is unable to reach it, so she can empathise with the corpses' desires as she offers her embrace, something she desperately yearns for herself because she cannot have it to any meaningful degree?
Next up are the stats for the awakening version:
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The ego's risk level is HE while the abnormality is WAW, so the connection with ABM is a little bit weak though I'd assume this is because Ishmael is a person capable of changing and ABM is an abnormality stuck in her ways.
As the lobcorp manual points out, HE class abnormalities can easily kill a number of employees so you need to pay more attention to them, but they're still relatively easy to manage so there's no need to be concerned over them.
WAWs, on the other hand are very devastating and can easily kill huge groups of people. You'll need to pay a lot of attention to them and be very careful with them if you want to avoid a huge loss.
All this is to say that ABM's level of obsession far exceeds Ishmael's. But... why obsession? Where did I get obsession from? I'll explain it more in detail later, but it's kind of obvious, isn't it? Ishmael's ego is wrath and ABM is associated with it, and wrath is a form of obsession, isn't it?
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The ego resources further point to this. If just ABM being associated with wrath isn't enough to prove that she's associated with obsession, then the ego resources for ABS certainly should. It has two more sins associated with obsession: the desire to spread what you are and the desire to become something else entirely.
Ardour also means great desire/passion so there's that.
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And the resistances: wrath is ineffective, lust is endured, sloth and gloom are both fatal. The first two check out, ABM is a fire related abnormality after all, the weakness to gloom is also understandable since the greatest counter to rage has to be depression; you can't feel angry if you're struggling to feel anything in the first place.
But sloth? Though not as much as wrath or lust, sloth still has some association with burn. Faust's LCE id even has sloth as its first skill, so why does this ego give Ishmael sloth weakness? Not even just Ishmael, ABM herself is weak to sloth.
Well, sloth and gloom have similar meaning to one another and while they are different at their core, they still share their similarities with their symptoms. It's like people who confuse greed and gluttony with one another. They're two different sins, but they have enough similarities with each other to be confused for the other nonetheless.
So the weakness to sloth further enhances the meaning the weakness to gloom has.
I won't really talk about the stats of the ego since they're really inconsistent even when sharing an abnormality (both pursuance ego heal, fluid sac only has one ego that heals), they + the passive might be important to mention (passive specifically explains why the ego has lust as a resource) but I won't get into it because this essay is already very long and while I am neurodivergent, the more I write the more I lose my sanity so I'll just move onto the next thing to preserve what little sanity I have left writing this.
Now, for the corroded version of ABS!
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There's barely any difference between this and Ishmael's, as is the case with most ego. The only thing noteworthy about this is that unlike other ego art where the sinner missing means that the abnormality has taken over, for ABS we go from only having Ishmael to only having ABM.
This is technically still the sinner being taken over by the abnormality, but I do wonder if this is actually to showcase Ishmael becoming ABM. Specifically, Ishmael losing herself in ABM's obsession and becoming her in the end, similar to what happened in her pquod captain id.
Take a look at their idle sprites, too.
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Notice the similarities between them? Ishmael is still there, but she has been corrupted (corroded, if you will) beyond recognition. Notice how similar she looks to ABM as well. I wouldn't be surprised if this corrosion is just the transition, and the next stage is becoming ABM herself. (Diversity win!!)
Next is her corroded line:
"Do you see? My writhing struggle, hoping the world is cocooned in flames with me..."
Well now, doesn't that sound like someone who's full of resentment and wants to bring the world down with them?
Personally this line is very obvious in its meaning (it's very much screaming hatred if you ask me) but let's analyze it a little bit anyway.
The part that pops out here for me is "hoping the world is cocooned in flames...". Cocooned, like how larva become moths via cocoons? ABM's association with lust gets stronger the more we look into this ego.
It also fits in with the narrative that Ishmael is becoming the abnormality via the corrosion. ABM wants to spread her hatred and does exactly that by either turning humans into abnormalities just like her, or leaving them a charred mess.
"Do you see? My writhing struggle," - It's a pain that Ishmael/ABM seemingly want to be acknowledged, but so far no one has. That makes her resentment make sense. Her pain is ignored by countless others, no wonder why she wants to spread it around so it'll finally be acknowledged.
Last for this section is her attack animation for both awakening and corrosion.
The animation for awakening is her swooping down to kiss the enemy then pulling away just as they explode. The one for corrosion is largely the same; she sucks away at the enemy's energy/blood/whatever but she doesn't pull away from the explosion this time.
Kissing the enemy.... is certainly a choice, though it could be the embrace that she was speaking of.
Anyway, that's all done, time for the next part! Now we go to our next piece of analysis, Yi Sang's observation logs regarding ABM! It's still not exactly reliable, that'll be when we get to the abnormality events and ego gifts, but Yi Sang's thoughts on ABM should still give us some insight.
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I'll gather the important lines from the first observation here:
"Nay, allow me to rearticulate. It would be more evocative to say that the flame itself has taken the form of such an insect."
"Watching the little bonfire, watching the twigs turn into bright red lanterns, then into black soot--I could not help but reach out to appreciate its warmth."
"Many share this sentiment, no? We need not touch the fire to know it blisters our skin and burns our bones. Yet we still yearn for its heat, to grow nearer to it."
As a quick note, I think Yi Sang  going right up to ABM and coming right back burnt into a crisp is more so Yi Sang being the weirdo (affectionate) he is than anything about ABM herself. It could also be a play on the words "moths to a flame" with how Yi Sang walked right up to ABM and got burnt.
On that note, based on these lines, she really does seem to have a pull for certain kind of people. The metaphor was always there, with one of light's symbolism being that of guidance and fire is a source of light. Those who are lost, who have lost hope, who don't know their place in the world and anyone who shares a similar feeling were always going to find ABM's light attractive and cluelessly walk towards her without realizing the danger they were in.
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Here is the second observation log. The first half only confirms what we knew of ABM through Ishmael's ABS ego so I won't talk about them, but the second half is interesting. Below is the only important part I'll be focusing on:
"Thus, it follows that breaking its wings would allow us to take the offensive in this battle."
For those of you who haven't played lobcorp or watched any of the story on youtube, here's a fun fact for you about abnormalities: They can't die, they're basically immortal, but most of them still feel pain.
That is to say, while Yi Sang's suggestion of breaking ABM's wings is justified and the only option that they really have, it's still extremely cruel, especially so coming from Yi Sang. Not only is ABM going to feel the pain of that, but she'll also have her freedom taken away from her.
But maybe that's not so much of a bad thing as one might initially think. What do I mean by this? It's doomed yuri related, I'll get to it later don't worry.
Now, onto the 3rd observation log that's connected to the 2nd one:
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Rather than pointing out the important parts, I'll make a commentary of everything that has been noted.
In the 2nd observation log, Yi Sang points out that the embers the sinners get from ABM's embrace do not burn and only bring warmth. However some of the sinners have experienced painful burns with a cause he doesn't know about.
In the 3rd one however, he realizes that these embers spark when ABM fans them with her wings; thus the need for her wings to be broken.
This does highlight some of ABM's personality and, despite how cruel it must be, violence is needed to win against her.
Maybe it's manipulation on her part; acting helpful by bringing people warmth only to pull the rug from right under them by sparking the embers, forcing them to burn alive. Or maybe it's just instinct for her to keep any flame from extinguishing. The embers are small after all, barely capable of hurting anyone, and it's only through the powerful flap of ABM's wings do they become a devastating force.
I believe it's the second interpretation that's actually happening as it fits right in with the belief in ABS; that she is incapable of guidance due to her very nature, but she can still offer some comfort thanks to that exact nature.
There's also another connection with lust here. ABM spreads her embers to others, turns those embers into powerful flames which then spread onto more people, so on and so forth. In a way, that's also propagation, isn't it?
Faust's LCE id is also interesting. At first I was thinking of skipping it because I didn't think it had anything of importance (even back in lobcorp, ego equipment themselves have minimal information on abnos) but then I remembered the very brief word she used for ABM, "self-destructive", so I came running right back.
"Subject's engagement threat level: moderately high. However, considering its self-destructive nature under specific circumstances... Ardor Blossom Moth final designation: WAW-5."
This is the line you get when you first obtain her LCE id. It's clear that the subject in question is ABM since, this is her ABS ego id. Would be funny if she was actually talking about Dante but I digress.
Self-destructive nature under specific circumstances... From my own experiences, I've always taken self-destructive (behaviours) to be just another form of self-harm, which it is. Any act of sabotaging yourself is self-destructive, be it smoking, pushing away your friends or literally exploding.
This is also why Ishmael has a direct ego that resonates with ABM. We saw how she acted during her own canto. But Faust also has this ego. Even if it's not to the same degree as Ishmael, how much does Faust resonate with ABM?
Well for her, it's less resonating and more empathising. Take a look at this:
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This is the narration given to us by Carmen. Faust resonates with and achieves a higher attunement level because she's willing to understand and empathize with ABM. It's hard to say if Faust has a connection besides empathizing with ABM since we're not given further info on her id story nor have I read Faust's source book. Her canto isn't out yet as of now either so I might come back to this if it is.
But this is pretty much it for Faust's LCE id. The rest of the information we can gather from her id either concerns every other abnormality or is something else entirely.
Also as a fun fact, LCE Faust's sin affinities completely match with ABM's, though I don't know if that's a result with her empathizing with ABM or if it's in regards to her own feelings.
Now that we're done with that, time to move onto... ABM's various events! I'll start with the easiest and shortest one, that being the LCB check up dungeon event:
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Only two lines from this matter for us.
"The flaming wings die out one moment, only to roar vigorously in the next."
"An incessant attempt to set fire to everything around it."
This reads as desperate to me, unusually so. I'm going to have to bring up a point I was planning on discussing for the part reserved for it, but ABM doesn't even fight like this. Sure, her movements aren't exactly what someone would call levelheaded either, but it's certainly not frantic.
Then again, during the fights with ABM, we're in her ideal environment while a containment unit in LCE is the furthest thing from an ideal environment for her.
Next is the mirror dungeon event. Unlike with SW, I won't analyse the ego gifts since a quick look tells me that they only reinforce what we already know.
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"Orange circles float in the air before your eyes. The lights flutter and dance in the air, creating a haze." - I believe that the orange circles Dante mentions aren't actual circles but instead several other ABMs. How do I know this?
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This is the artwork we get for this mirror dungeon event. You might be inclined to believe that the orange circles in question are very obviously the circles in this image, but that's not the case.
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We know from this image (that is ABM's background art for her battle) that the orange circles we see in the event art are mini volcanoes (I don't know if that's what they're actually called but I digress).
And it'd be one thing if Dante really was talking about these, but the way they describe the orange circles as "the light flutter and dance in the air, creating a haze" would fit into ABM much more than the mini volcanoes. Going off of this, we can safely assume that the haze in question is formed by the army of tiny ABMs flying about in the event art… which is the case.
"Something is burning to death within. Would you be scorched as well if the flames touched you?" - This is something I'll get to again later, but we've seen this before, haven't we? Ishmael's ABS ego, specifically the corrosion. I already pointed out the similarity in sprites and how you can still see Ishmael within the corrosion sprite, but how she's still beyond recognition.
Now is where we get to the choices:
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"Enchanted by the haze, you extend a finger, waiting for one of the lights to land." - There isn't much to say here, I've already said this during Yi Sang's observation log. Despite seeing the danger, Dante still reaches out their hand for... something. Though Dante's case is very different from what I mentioned in Yi Sang's observation log since reaching out was a choice that Dante made, and they were more interested in the haze itself rather than the light and warmth provided by ABM.
There are definitely faults in this take, but I don't think the details matter all that much.
"A glimmering ball gently perches on your digit. Then, a fire engulfs it." - I'm a little unsure of this one, but it seems to me that one of the ABMs took this as invitation. It feels similar to the corpses back in Ishmael's ABS ego art reaching out towards Ishmael/ABM, and Dante's finger immediately catching fire without any pain further enforces this to me.
"Another glow attaches to your body, then four, then eight. They multiply until you have been entirely shrouded in light." - This piece of information clarifies that the small lights aren't exactly ABM, but instead a child abnormality of her, in a way. The ABM we know is big, but these child abnormalities are likely the size of an actual moth.
Judging by how the event was resolved, I doubt that the smaller moths gathering on top of Dante was a good thing by any means. Sure, they came out of it unhurt, but any sinner who had an id without a wrath skill equipped got hurt.
Which makes me wonder if this exact event happened to the sinners as well, by which I mean the small ABMs surrounding their body. Losing 10 HP is practically nothing, so I'm assuming this means that the moths aren't capable of doing serious damage. This would explain why ids without wrath skills got hurt while those with wouldn't; they'd be able to withstand it thanks to having an affinity for wrath already.
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This option is very anti-climactic but the safest thing to do.
"Resisting the temptation to reach out, you decide it's better to stay away from such dubious warmth." - There's not much to say here aside from the temptation to reach out towards ABM's flame is instinctive, maybe innate, it's still a pull you can resist. Though I doubt how resistable it might be to certain kinds of people.
"You feel a cold wave crawl up your spine in an instant, but it may be the right choice." - It is, leaving is the right choice, at least in terms of keeping yourself safe. The coldness that Dante feels the moment they turn around is exactly why ABM's flames are so dangerous. Flames are warm, and whatever is warm is also comfortable. It's far too easy to stay where it's comfortable despite how dangerous it might be.
"Even children know not to play with fire." - But that doesn't stop them from doing so, does it?
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And here is the high risk high reward choice.
I'm not going to bother analysing this choice one by one but comment on it as a whole. Aside from this choice giving me vibes of someone who doesn't care for their own life, ABM forming within the haze is curious.
While it's a little hard to decipher what this is supposed to mean, I know from other abnormality encounters that an option that lets you obtain 2 ego gifts at the cost of a fight are options where you piss of or upset the abnormality you encountered.
What does this mean for ABM, though?
Faust's LCE says that ABM has a self destructive nature, we established that before. If someone has reached a point where they act self-destructive over something, I doubt that person has any sense of self worth. For an abnormality like ABM that's associated with wrath as well as what we know of her so far, I'm willing to bet there's a lot of self hatred involved as well.
What I'm trying to say here is that Dante in the 3rd option (something draws you into the haze) likely reminds ABM of herself. As an abnormality, she's bound to her fate and cannot defy it (otherwise she wouldn't be an abnormality in the first place). Seeing someone who has control over their own fate have a lapse of judgement and be drawn to your existence as a result would be an insult.
She knows that Dante isn't overcome by the instinct to reach out towards her flames in search of warmth, because Dante would've reached out, instead they walk right into the haze and it pisses ABM off. Here she is, bound by her own nature and unable to escape it, and this human who would know nothing about her pain is in awe of her existence. That just pisses her off.
This is also why we get the Ardent Flower ego gift together with Hellterfly's Dream. I can't comment on the latter much but I can say for sure that Ardent Flower is a representation of this exact feeling; of feeling belittled because of how someone perceives you and feeling angry due to it. Yes, ardent is a synonym of passionate, but passion can be fueled by both love and hate. Feel free to guess which one ABM has plenty of.
Now onto our last section for ABM before I tie everything together. Her enemy information:
First a quick look at ABM's stats. The resistances for her body line up with Ishmael's ABS ego, with the only difference being that ABM also endures envy but that makes sense, it's one of the resources for ABS.
Her wings are more or less the same with the only difference being that they're more fragile.
Onto her attacks. Yi Sang already got her attack patterns down but there are still some things that I want to bring up. Aside from the cycle of putting people on fire, stoking the flames to create stronger fire, then spreading more fire, her attacks also have a focus on wrath; namely inflicting her enemies with wrath resist down then converting her non-wrath skills to wrath skills.
She's basically a limbus player if a limbus player knew how to read instead of winrating every encounter lol. (It's me, I'm limbus player.) She's also what Nclair wishes he was, but I guess a human's hatred was never going to be on par with an abnormality's hatred.
Her skills are 2 sloth, 2 pride and 2 wrath respectively. What does that mean? For sinners, the sin affinities for their attack skills represent their feelings for the current mirror world they're in. To make a quick example: Heathcliff. His canto is already out so I don't have to go in depth with this explanation, but up until his KK id (which seems to be the happiest he has been, ever, do correct me if I'm wrong though) every single id Heathcliff had features an envy skill. This was a way for PM to show his feelings of inferiority born from his past, and that manifests the strongest in the form of envy because he's not allowed to have Cathy (the only person who didn't treat him like shit), but someone who's better than him in every aspect is.
What does that mean for ABM though? I interpret her sloth skills to mean that she has resigned herself to her role. She's destined to live an existence where she brings harm upon anything that comes too close, it's instinctive for her, so why even fight it at this point. But you know who else has sloth skills and has given up on defying their fate? That's right, Hong Lu! (this isn't about him)
Next, her pride skills. I interpret them as her response to her fate. Although she was born like this, she still yearns to be free; to escape. That's why it's such an insult when someone like Dante steps right into her domain like they're offering themselves up to be one of her. It's a personal slight, it's an insult to her ego, her pride.
And lastly, her wrath skills. I interpret them as another kind of response to her fate, as well as her feelings towards it. She's stuck with her role? Fine, she'll do such a good job at it that she won't be the only one suffering from her existence by the end of it. Her wrath skills also represent her frustration for her circumstance, but that one was obvious.
Her battle event goes like this:
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I won't talk in depth here, but Dante is right that it's the core of ABM; it's the scorched remains of who she once was if that person ever even existed, if ABS Ishmael's corrosion is anything to go by.
Also note that this is one of the few events where you're asked to roll under the designated number and not above it. It's almost as if suppressing your emotions is what gives you an advantage, I wonder what that could mean?
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Notice a certain line here: "Their fingertips begin to blister and bubble, but perhaps [Sinner]'s passion burned hotter than the flames itself."
With someone as self destructive as ABM is, you're bound to get hurt trying to help her. It's only by having a strong will, one that's stronger than ABM's hatred for herself and those around her can you truly reach out and help her.
It'll hurt, it'll be painful, but it's the only way to really touch her heart.
So then why does the chosen sinner throw away ABM's core? Didn't I say that was the remains of who ABM was?
These two questions are related to one another. The chosen sinner threw away ABM's core because Dante rightfully perceived the core to be what fed ABM's flames, thus it had to go. Following this decision, ABM's flames immediately calm down. She loses her ember and the sinners all lose burn.
All this to me is what proves that the core is ABM's remains. Part of her consciousness is still in there, somewhere. It might be dormant but the emotions that part feels (namely wrath) is exactly what acts as fuel for ABM. It's only by separating who she once was from the flames that are literally consuming every second of her life does the fire grow weaker.
So what happens when the chosen sinner fails the check?
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The pain is simply too much, the will to help isn't strong enough. You can't be blamed for pulling away after realizing you'll get hurt, but pulling away from the person hurting won't make their situation any better.
It's an understandable choice, an understandable reaction, but in the end it just hurts more.
ABM's reaction isn't exactly clear here. Is she acting on instinct, is it a defense mechanism that triggered the moment she realized someone reached out not towards her flames, but to her heart for once?
Or is this anger in response to what has been attempted? That someone would dare reach out to her only to back away because of the pain, when the pain she's constantly in is so much worse than what they have been temporarily through?
It could be both, it's definitely one of them, but we'll never know for sure.
Now with all of that analysis done, what is ABM? Who is she? What's her deal?
ABM is, to put it simply, a form of corruption. Specifically a hatred so strong that it eventually takes over every aspect of your life, until you're left completely miserable. Sometimes the hatred you feel will be weak, sometimes it'll be so strong that it'll be painful just to experience it, but the feeling will always be there until you hurt yourself and your loved ones. It's the kind of hatred that makes you resent yourself, it's the kind of hatred that you'll take to your grave but most importantly, it's the kind of hatred that exists as a never ending cycle.
But as much as you resent yourself for being so hateful, deep down, you still want an out for this situation. You might've sunk too far to ever get out of the hole you dug yourself in, but that won't stop you from wishing for someone to reach out and drag you out of it.
That's why the scorched bodies in ABS Ishmael's art are reaching out towards her. They're all hurting, they have hurt others, but they still wished to be saved from the cycle they're stuck in.
But Ishmael cannot do that herself. She's stuck in that cycle as well. If she were to grab their hand, it'd inevitably end up with more pain. Her embrace; her understanding, her empathy is the only thing she can offer. It's the only thing she has to offer.
The same can be said for ABM as well. When Dante reaches out towards her, she's quick to "embrace" them; shrouding them in light as the smaller ABMs attach themselves to Dante. It hurts, it must hurt. Maybe not Dante specifically, but it's a painful experience for the sinners who haven't felt the pain that naturally comes with wrath.
There's more to say, but I feel like anything more I add will just reinforce what I've said about ABM being and representing a cycle of hatred and corruption.
And who is she?
ABM is someone who has been born into and stuck in this cycle of hatred all her life. Though she is capable of showing compassion to others and can help others out in her own way, she'll almost always end up doing more harm than good due to her very own nature.
She's irritable, she's prideful, she hates herself, hates those around her too, she's resigned to her own fate and the only way to pacify her is to contribute to the very cycle she's stuck in and responding to her violence with just as much (if not more) violence.
...wow, she's almost the exact opposite of SW, huh? A majority of her personality is just negative traits with just a few positive traits that end up doing harm anyway.
Wait hold on a second, everything I described sounds more like toxic yuri between the two and not doomed yuri? Well then, allow me to explain exactly why they are doomed yuri and not toxic yuri.
You know how I talked about ABM essentially being and representing a cycle of hatred (while SW is a representation of goodwill)?
SW is both the end to that cycle as well as a contribution to it.
She's the only one who shows unconditional kindness towards ABM, the only one to never resort to violence with ABM even if it hurts her.
It'd surely piss ABM off, after all, how could you just love someone like her? Someone who's the epitome of hatred? And given her temper, SW's kindness would inevitably end in her death... but remember! Abnormalities are immortal so SW's death will be temporary. And considering SW's personality, I don't think she'll stop being kind towards ABM just because of one death.
It's that very fact that turns SW's and ABM's relationship from a toxic one-sided yuri to a slowburn doomed yuri.
It's inevitable that the two would feel love for one another, SW towards ABM because of all the small things that ABM does, and ABM towards SW because she's the first being to treat ABM with unconditional kindness and without a hint of violence.
And this is where the doomed part of the yuri comes in. Though they may love each other greatly, ABM is destined to burn SW to death eventually, over and over again. I don't think SW would particularly care about this given how many times she would have to burn to death to even reach this point in their relationship, but that doesn't make ABM feel any less guilty or horrible for her very own nature.
Imagine the guilt you'd have, the kinds of thoughts that would follow you when you try to touch your beloved only to burn and hurt them. Imagine how horrible it would feel when they tried to reassure you saying they don't mind the pain, when you really should be the one reassuring them.
They cannot kiss, they cannot hold each other, they can't even touch one another without one of them dying.
Sunset Wayfarer is the answer that would free Ardour Blossom Moth from her cycle of suffering, but given their very nature as abnormalities, all she ends up doing is putting herself and Ardour Blossom Moth in a different kind of cycle; one that's still full of suffering.
The only way for these two to have a moment of peace... is through violence. Only by ripping off Ardour Blossom Moth's wings, only by extinguish her flames by force and leaving her in a vulnerable state is it possible for the two of them to touch one another and hold each other without fear of pain or death.
Their relationship, no matter how much they love one another, will always end with one of them being hurt.
Also um,
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notice how similar the butterflies surrounding SW and one of ABM’s ego gifts look??
even projmoon themselves ship these two abnormalities they're literally meant to be
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sharksarewaterdogs · 3 months ago
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Major Andor Spoilers! (A light rant; love the show, just not that happy with some decisions)
So, I get that this is a show that kills off its characters. I knew from their start these two were doomed, and I don't mind some tragic yuri (give me the angst yum yum). But I gotta be honest, I do not like how they killed Cinta, so thoughts:
I don't feel like they gave her and Vel enough time/weight together this season, so her death felt rushed and weak imo. It doesn't have to be some big moment for the rebellion, but it should have felt like they were giving more weight to us, the audience. (And to the counterpoint of "Well it's SUPPOSED to feel like her death was meaningless" yes for the world they're in, but not like it was an almost throwaway decision of the writers' thinning out a large cast. I mean, she's off-screen shot by some rando, and then her death scene is cut with Luthen & Kleya celebrating in a breather scene (a light moment after tension, I mean) and a BAMF Bix scene (deserved but maybe not right this second...?).
Vel's speech praises her, yeah, but it also feels like narratively it kinda serves to fridge Cinta for some rando who shot at her??? Like, ok. Tie into the theme and all, show how tragic it is she died for nothing, yes, but it kind of makes it weirdly about that guy angsting over killing her and not, you know, HER. I don't like it.
I think Vel would've been the more interesting one to kill tbh esp after Mon was asking after her. I still expect her to die but I think if either of them had to in this batch of episodes, it should have been her.
We're allowed to have feelings about it! Negative feelings! Do you know how many straight fans have rioted over the death of someone in their straight ship? I'm not saying you can't say "Hey I don't think this is a bury your gays moment bc xyz", discussion is great. The problem is stuff like "omg STOP saying it's bury your gays be happy you got some representation, if you complain you won't get even that" Do straight people have to worry there won't be straight ships if they complain about how one is handled? No? Then we shouldn't either.
Overall I still like Andor, I'm still excited for the next few episodes, but I don't think it's above criticism and I'm not happy with their handling of this.
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haveyoureadthisdcfic · 28 days ago
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lovely face twisted (looking at her sin)
Authour: @butchgreenarrow (keskevy)
Subfandom: Batman
Media: Comics
Relationships: Shippy (Sheila Haywood & Jason Todd, Sheila Haywood/Catherine Todd)
Year: 2025
Rating: Teen
Warnings: Minor Unhappy Ending
Summary:
“His name’s Jason Todd.” And the world is cleaved in two under her feet. “Todd?” She says, aghast. He looks at her, hopeful and disappointed in tandem, branded on his features. The boy. Jason Todd. * Simply put, Jason Todd was a product of desperation. Sheila Haywood meets Jason Todd (again). Catherine Todd won't leave the either of them alone.
Submitted by @haithhegimp
Submitter's comment:
the best way that i can describe this fic (and its prequel!!) is that it feels like the burn in your gut after a drink. its sooo devestating and the style is really interesting and doomed toxic yuri its fantastic!!! i love it sooo much please give it a read
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sapphicrot · 11 months ago
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i wantchu to know my only experience with iterator shpping to this point has been Pebbles/Suns (i guess. whats even the name for that one? idk). But you have opened my eyes here. Lilypad is just so compelling in a way thats hard to describe. Adds so much depth to the whole Hunter Slag Keys thing!
You have just activated an unskippable cutscene LOL
Suns/Pebbles is called sunstone, which I think is very cute ^-^ Most rw ship names are pretty cute tbh :3
ANYWAYS. YES. Lilypad is so so so good…I really like it because Sig seems to actually be a little more emotionally vulnerable with Moon than she does Suns, implying they were closer than Sig and Suns are. Not to mention, Sig barely mentions Pebbles (or acts pretty standoffish) when he does mention Pebbs.
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These are two messages it sends to Moon, but it seems to imply he’s sent more, considering “it’s me again” and the fact that there are more than one we are shown. They could have only made one just to show he was worried, but the devs chose to put more than one, just to drive the point home. It shows a panic that Sig is unwilling to reveal to Suns.
And then we have this.
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Sig is basically telling Pebbles he hopes he wallows in regret for this. While Sig does express her general disdain for Pebbles’ attitude with Suns, he still makes a point to be understanding, saying “I think a lot of us were like that in the beginning.” Meanwhile, in this broadcast, none of that empathy is present. She is angry, to a point he refuses to reveal to Suns.
I believe that Sig’s biggest fear is being alone. He describes their situation as being “locked up in a box”, and comes up with the idea to use slugcats as messengers in an attempt to make sure when the comms systems degrade, something everyone else seems to have just accepted as a grim inevitability. So it’s pretty understandable Sig would be pissed at the person who took away one of the few remaining friends she had left. If you wanna read my other massive essay that goes more in depth to this point, here it is!
The fact that you can find the green overseer in outer expanse and subterranean during the Hunter, Monk, Survivor, and Gourmand campaigns is also shows how desperate she was to help Moon. If it was only around during the Hunter campaign, okay sure, that’s probably just him looking for her, checking if she made it to the void sea. However, the fact that it stays, likely long after she knows Hunter’s time is up, means he’s probably searching for any sign of activity from Moon. Still waiting and wondering if her plan was all in vain. The reason I think it doesn’t appear during Rivulet is because of the destruction of OE and just…age. Unfortunately, Sig might just not have the ability to send an overseer that far.
Lastly, the pearl he gives to Moon. This seems to contradict my first point, doesn’t this seem like he’s hiding her emotions behind humor again? Well, my interpretation of this is that: Moon just woke up from what is essentially a fucking coma. Giving her a message that’s like “OH MY GOD I WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT YOU AHHHHHH” would probably not be helpful to someone who is likely in a ton of pain, disoriented, and scared. She knows not to overwhelm Moon right now.
And…yeah. Sig seems to hold a lot of genuine adoration for Moon, and looks up to her kindness. I think his jokiness stems from him wanting to emulate Moon’s uplifting nature. He cares about her a lot and also I just love doomed yuri LMAO. SIG AND MOON LESBIANS FOREVER AND EVER.
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bloggerrick · 3 months ago
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thoughts on el toro de poedra because it is the best episode of season 6 by far (I never lie)
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FIRST OFF I would give away diamonds, hours of unsalable loyalty and love for this man like heloooo fine shyt dump your gf and get with a real dreadhead (non developed locs technically twists technically cornrows)
SECOND this running animation needs to STOP. ABEG.
this episode is so peak bro lila changing gears to akumatize el toro was so satisfying this is well deserved thought of
hold on let’s backtrack why is she speaking Spanish to relate to this guy you’re fully french she said generational family anger in my latina eyes
THOSE PEOPLE SHOULDVE DIED OMG ITS SO GORE
whipping people..he..me nex-
sabrina? why you talking about learning to be a better person you were a bully until your owner left😭?
miss bustier’s baby is so not fugly i’m sorry
ivan is…wow..oh wow he might be my new favorite character oh wow
oh there yall go again with the i don’t deserve this miraculous bullshit… although i like the development of minor characters..mh conflicted..approved!
saying i’m the son of el toro like he’s ever been relevant oh boy
i shred a tear lowkey am i still part of the cool kids guys
the transformation animation💔 jus give it up man💔
oh um alright yall do your lowkey off screen kiss ig alright alright 😭 yuri wins ig lesbian visibility week is off to a rocky start but it’s off!
NOT THE CAMP ROCK LIPBITE LMAOO
dw juleka i love doomed families too
ooo not the lowkey useless lucky charm
oooooooop ivan my man yall i will defend him till my dying agonizing breath
???? why is he going to jail?? he got AKUMATIZED chat this is racial profiling idc idc ooo never thomas heard me my bad king don’t give me the chloe treatment
is it gonna be this easy for him to change? yes it’s gonna be super easy barely an inconvenience
teddy bear🤢
“ton père a été un héros “ who? gabe? 😟 does adrien have another dad because..
“hey adrien why won’t you group hug me after i talked about my dad to your fatherless self?”
not the illumati on souffle god im TIRED and EXCITED
WTF IS GOING ONNNNN
FATHER???? WHATTTTTTTTT THE HELLLL
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marsbar17 · 4 months ago
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Hello! Recently stumbled across your blog again and I love all your Bangalore and Loba content <33 could I get some Lobalore headcanons, SWF and NSFW? Side note: what you wrote about Bangalore finding out you're a masochist made me squirm /pos 🥵🥵🥵
I'm surprised I haven't done smth lobalore yet shdjsjka I'm a disappointment to the doomed yuri community 😔
Also thank you so much! I should really finish those masochism headcanons shouldn't I lol
Bangalore x Loba Headcanons
Contains: NSFW further below
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《SFW》
• They are the ultimate power couple
• Literally EVERYONE knows they're dating, as much as Bangalore likes to be a bit private with her life, it's literally impossible with how much flirting they do
• Matches are filled with not-so-subtle innuendos, gym sessions are filled with "encouragement," being alone with them is always hell cuz they're just making out lol
• Bangalore pretends she's annoyed with how touchy Loba is in public but really she love it
• She has that stupid little smirk on her face as Loba touches her arms and chest like "yeah this is my girlfriend, she's hot as fuck"
• Loba 100% has scary dog privilege, Bangalore is like a dobermann (and she likes head scratches too 🤭)
• They go on mall dates, and yes, Bangalore carries the bags and stands guard outside the change rooms while Loba shows her every piece of clothing she grabbed in the stores
• They also just enjoy going out for nice dinners at fancy restaurants. Or Bangalorw sets up fancy dinners at home with candles and wine
• Spa visits where they get massages and talk to each other about random gossip, and then they go sit in a sauna way too close to each other for how hot it is in that bitch
• They both enjoy cooking for each other very much, and often argue over who gets to make dinner.
• Loba likes to cook more cultural foods that remind her of home while Bangalore cooks a lot of healthy meals for building muscle, but they both enjoy and eat each other's food no matter what :)
• Their love languages are quality time and words of affirmation, but gift giving and physical affection are high up there
• Loba calls Bangalore my love, darling, dear, meu amor, querida, basically every pet like that
• Bangalore mostly calls Loba Lo, or just Loba, but she does call her the occasional love
NSFW under here :)
《NSFW》
• Okay here me out, Bangalore is a top and dom, but Loba is both vers and a switch
• With that, Bangalore tops like 95% of the time, but there's that 5% where she gives in to Loba's pleading to eat her out
• Bangalore hates penetration on herself tho, she will never agree to it and Loba respects that
• Loba will often try to fight Bangalore for dominance, she never wins but the struggle is a part of the fun
• You could say she's a bit of a brat, it's hard not to be when Bangalore is so easy to rile up
• One of Loba's favourite things is putting her hand on Bangalore's thigh and slowly creeping it further and further up until Bangalore is bright red and stuttering when she talks
• Bangalore's favourite punishment for Loba when she's being a brat is definitely just making her deep throat a strap over and over till her makeup has run all over her face and there's drool trailing down her neck and chest
• Bangalore is obsessed with Loba's boobs, she has an assortment of nipple clamps and is always making excuses to get her hands and mouth on those titties
• They've tried almost every kink you can think of, but some of their favorites are definitely exhibitionism, impact play, and bondage
• They will fuck anywhere, and love to pull little exhibitionist stunts during the games. Stuff like Bangalore having the remote to a vibrator inside Loba, having intricate shibari ties covering their bodies under their suits, even going as far as quickies in the arena
• Their favorite positions are missionary and cowgirl, but they also love against the wall fucking
• Loba calls Bangalore sir, and generally all the other pet names she usually calls her
• Bangalore calls Loba princess, good girl, and many degrading terms like slut, whore, bitch, stuff like that
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Thank you for reading!
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kainessies · 6 months ago
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I honestly didn’t expect you answer my phars comment since I wasn’t sure if you’d respond on that ship but I saw your chart on the extras with Phaeton crushing on Mars so here’s my questionable takes while your on break
Mars saying he didn’t like Phaeton in a convo with Venus (average Earth listening in) while also acting like a mourning widow waiting for her husband to come back from the dead from war
Phaeton somehow spawns in and Mars absolutely freaks out? It ends up in an argument and everyone is looking away minus Earth who’s confused who that guy is. Venus just tells him to look away. Phars argument gets worse, they get louder and the hatred/complication is clear that everyone in the solar system can hear it but it also sounds like a badly written fanfic leading up to smut (hatesex) and even the sun is looking away from those freaks, the two of them get so much closer and now people are just full on ignoring them, minus Earth whose getting jealous because why is he hearing Mars implicate that he’d rather fuck (insert someone) rather than Phaeton who responds with “you wouldn’t because I’m the only one who makes you feel good” and Mars pathetically agrees yeah and they makeup? They hug each other… uh. Look into each others eyes for a good long moment. Heavy hard long PDA after what had just happened.
Mars casually talking to Mercury before being like “I miss my ex-"friend" phaeton” sighs in heartbreak while Mercury nods like yeah we know. Shut up.
I hate this and I hate Phars!! (This is a lie) I see any other Phaeton and Mars with different writers and I’m so fine and normal about it but when I see yours it’s just flat out "You wanna eat me and my heart out so bad" or they just give doomed yuri vibes i don’t even know anymore. Your characterized versions of everyone make me go insane.
Can you tell I love your Mars?
— GOE Marth anon
…Yes I promise I’ll make another Marth comment later
I love those "Phaeton was Mars's first love" angst videos that always happens in YouTube and TikTok videos, but I wanted to do my own twist. Phaeton was Mars's first situation ship is their motto right now lmao.
That second one... Is getting SO CLOSE to whatever I have planned for Aftermath Redux. Oh yeah it's coming together. Except Mars will disagree with him saying he was the only one who made him feel good, and just. Talks about his relationship with Earth. Like a fucking boss. "He tastes like you only sweeter" ahhh type of comeback.
Phaeton made Mars worse but Earth? Earth made Mars realize he's still a shitty person and will try and work on that. Earth isn't the type to encourage people, and helps them be better in his own fucked up way. Although yes, he CAN be worse than Phaeton amongst certain aspects, but he is prone to calling Mars out on his bullshit often.
Thank you for loving my version of Mars 🙏🏽 I wanted to see where he came from with his peacemaker personality, so this is what happened. Don't you love it when bad people get comeuppance? And then redeem and try to do good for themselves and others?
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thebiggestvillianslairfan · 7 months ago
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MY THE VILLIANS LAIR HEADCANONS (AND THOUGHTS/THEORIES) BECAUSE IM OBSESSED WITH IT AND I THINK ABOUT IT EVERYDAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAA (SPOILERS!)
- Jafar just *knows* everyone's business, I got this from the beginning of the life's not fair episode where he's talking to the Queen and he's like: "I heard you're little argument last night" (Or something like that) And I can just imagine him like standing by a door with his parrot and being like "Oh damn the girl's are FIGHTING"
- The Evil Queen is inlove with Malificent but due to internalised homophobia and because she just hates Malificent for being better then her she won't admit it to herself. I got this from a comment on the that's all video that was like "Oh is the Queen suspicious of Malificent because she doesn't want her to get back with Hades?" and DAMN THE ANGST THAT WOULD BRING As for Malificent, I don't think she realises she feels the same, Because to her, Relationships are a way of benefit (I'm gonna circle back to this with my Malificent is autistic coded headcanon) But yeah, Toxic doomed yuri slurp slurp
- All I ever wanted...Aka the BEST FUCKING SONG IN THE ENTIRE SERIES The song is giving autistic rage and I love it, I feel every character in that song has faced SOME kind of discrimination in they're life and to me it's giving "I've been treated like shit my entire life for what I am, Die bitch" Like, Jafar and Frollo just kind of are assholes, The argument could be made Jafar faced racism but like, Everyone else in Agrabah (Fictional place in Arabia) was ATLEAST TAN so, Unfortunately this ain't starkid productions Jafar guys 😔 (Frollo just sucks so we're gonna move on) Hook, Malificent and Scar are the REAL stars of the show here! Hook (My beloved) Of course faced discrimination for being disabled physically, This is confirmed in Life's not fair. (Im just gonna gloss over Scar cuz i don't have much to say about him, His singing was great though and again, Autistic rage core)...Malificent...I believe she's autistic coded, Her lines in All I ever wanted are SO REAL, Sure you could *also* argue that she's being discriminated against for being green and...Yknow, A demon basically. But I want my autistic rep and I'm gonna get it. Anyway, To me, Malificent isn't a human (Yeah duh) And I think that she's simply mimicking (Masking) human actions and etiquette to better fool them, She learned how humans manipulate other humans, She learned how humans act, and all that jazz. But still...She has that aura of...Skinwalker energy, I guess? Like, She's acting like a human even though she isn't. Now I'm not saying autistic people aren't human (I'm autistic myself and I can confirm, I'm mostly organic) But the experience of being autistic is like, Resonated trough Malificent. This is a very "I'm projecting onto her" headcanon, So it might sound a little bogus but, It's Malificent, Everything about her is pretty bogus.
- Hook is Bisexual with a preference for masculinity, Yes I know his actor is gay (Robbie Pigott is my fav actor just cuz he plays Hook no joke) But Hook gives more bi energy to me then he does fully gay man
- The plot twist at the last episode has got me speculating on who Malificent's mom is, My biggest and most likely answer is the wicked witch if the west because 1. She's green 2. They made an evolution video about her recently instead of a princess like they usually do, And 3. It just makes sense. But I secretly hope it's not her just so I can be wrong and be suprised, Like, The witch and Malificent are 2 different shades of green (Malificent is more lighter-ish while The witch is a more pronounced green) I mean, Idk how DNA and skin tones work in they're world, Like for gods sake the Horned King is a skeleton, How did he get boned? (Haha funny pun) like, He has no balls or life in him so, I'm gonna have to assume he lost his skin afterwards cuz...what the flip...(Or maybe the witch is just really freaky like that) (Or maybe surrogates exist???)
- Ursula and Facilier are actually really cute together and I think Facilier is really smitten by her, While she doesn't really pay any mind to it, I hope she falls for him too cuz they're really cute
- I like to think that the livestream QnA with the villians are like a separate actor AU, Like they're just actors being hired after getting they're asses beat and are now role-playing they're revenge is really funny to me, Also i like how in the Hook and Queen lievstream the Queen has to walk off so she doesn't start laughing it's really cute and gives her character some humanity, I like when they humanise the villians in small ways :)
- I REALLY hope the villians lair becomes like, A found family thing or something, Like having them be friends and caring about eachother and finding comfort with eachother is just SO CUTE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
-I know Frollo is like, One of the most favourite'd villians in the Disney franchise for how well written he is, But I'm honestly glad he takes a back seat in the show, I love how Character's like Hook, Gaston and Hans (Who aren't as popular as Frollo writing-wise) Get to be on screen more, I like this mostly because I wanna see them humanise the villians and make them feel more real yknow? Like, Frollo is already cemented himself as a realistic villian so, He doesn't need further development, So it's nice the more one-dimensional guy's get some screen time and hopefully soon some depth :)
Anyway that's all! Lemme know if you agree or if my opinions suck!!! Bai!!! :D
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dedenneblogs · 2 years ago
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my billions of hcs for ares, clarrise, + anyone else unfortunate to be related to the god of war:
- Ares looks like one of those cool, old, bearded grandpas on youtube that give life advice but the only thing he’d give you advice on is how to handle a motorcycle or how to start a war.
- expects ALL his children to know how to at least ride a bicycle, extra points if your able to handle a motorbike by 16 (yes he has a points system). One of the many reasons he doesn’t like Clarrise ☹️☹️☹️
- Wanted to get with Aphrodite ever since TTC. halted his plans when his chest hairs (yes you heard that right i shan’t elaborate) signaled to him that Clarrise was extremely gay for Silena. thought for a second to make another move after Silena passed but decided against it.
- was ecstatic to find out clarrise was a lesbian but only because he saw it as a way for her to “toughen up” and “be more of a man,” so still hated gay men+. Clarrise knocked some sense into him, he’s an ally now
- clarrise doesn’t forgive ares, she probably never will. Ares is okay with that yet he tries to be there for her. always
- Ares is an 80s movies nut. like. won’t shut the fuck up about 80s movies, it’s basically the only thing he watches other then monster trucks, history channel at 3am (he calls it his news source), and illegal cage fights he’s recorded over the years. was hyped when Ready Player One came out and forced Clarrise to come with him to see it. Clarrise liked Aech by the end but wasn’t impressed by the representation. Ares of course said he loved it, then watched again only to realize how shit it was. Ruined his day
- All the Arises have at least somewhat of a pig face, but it’s most noticeable in clarrise. Like. just take a pig, give it a human body. BOOM! Ares child
- Silena used to always tell Clarrise how cut she thought her pig face was. It made Clarrise less insecure. Sobs oceans when someone says something positive about her face after Silena dies. Ah…. doomed/toxic yuri
- Ares: RISE UP AND WIN!!! Clarrise and her siblings in unison: AUUGHHHHHHH
- Clarrise keeps in contact with Blackbeard. He’s an absolute w, always asks his little sister if she wants to find buried treasure or whatever the fuck pirates do in the 21st century. One day Percy introduced blackbeard and his crew to One Piece. things went downhill from there.
also side note i’ve already read 4 of percy jackson books from the og series so if blackbeard finds the one peice in chalice of the gods or whatever don’t @ me until i find out for myself
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