#antis are ableist

[cozmo-system]

fuck. you.

yeah let’s just ignore real qualified therapists telling trauma victims they can cope without harm via fiction. everyone listen to some random dipshit on pinterest because the TOTALLY know more than anyone with years of education and experience

[internally-weird]

antis: we care about victims and mentally ill people!!

also antis: use 'you dont shower' and fatherless as insults, send death threats, ask if youre okay mentally (because why else would someone want to have fun in fandoms), try to trigger episodes in proshippers, have the most ableist arguments ever

[certified-silly-guy]

Bro doesn’t even know I’m a we

[sotiredofendos]

A system is a collection of alters. Alters are chronically dissociated self states, with different neurological pathways that often are accompanied by a varying degree of amnesia. Dissociation is caused by stress/trauma. Alters are a byproduct of dissociating from trauma. You can’t dissociate from trauma you do not have. You cannot dissociate without trauma. You cannot have alters without trauma. You cannot have a system without alters.

You cannot be a system without trauma.

Do you have to know about the trauma ? No. Does it have to be a certain type of trauma ? No. Does it need to be a certain severity ? No. It just needs to have occurred during critical developmental period of the brain. Before the ego states have stitched together, it must be chronic, and beyond the child’s stress threshold, otherwise it will not disrupt the developmental growth. This is different for everyone. The reason trauma cannot be listed as a diagnostic criteria, is because there is no “xyz trauma that causes dissociative disorders”. It’s completely unique to each person suffering from the disorder. And in often cases, the person suffering from the disorder isn’t aware of their trauma. That’s the point of the disorder. This does not mean you don’t need trauma to suffer from a dissociative disorder. Systems are byproducts of dissociative disorders, you cannot be a byproduct of a disorder you do not have.

Endos are not systems. What do I mean by this? I mean that, by definition, that term is not suited for them, and is not meant to describe them. Just like kinning doesn’t mean you’re a system, just like roleplaying doesn’t mean you’re a system, just like religious practises such as tulpamancy isn’t a system. You are perfectly free to do whatever you please, truly. But do not compare it to being a system. You do not share our experiences. You are a different community entirely, and that’s ok.

But please, for the love of god, stop invading our community, and stop spreading misinformation about an already stigmatised and misunderstood disorder.

I understand if you didn’t know better. But please, educate yourself, and stop spreading this misinformation. Being a system isn’t an identity. It’s not a label. And please, stop comparing it to being queer. This is a mental illness. Being queer is not a mental illness.

[anti-endo-help]

you are not a system without trauma.

your system did not form for any reason other than trauma.

"non-traumagenic" isn't a thing.

"traumaendo" isn't a thing.

trauma survivors shouldn't have to clarify that they're "traumagenic" because people want to roleplay on the internet.

go fuck yourself if you think that "endos" are valid. my trauma isn't a label you can wear.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

[ID: STOP! this blog is a strictly anti-endo space! pro-endos and endo neutrals, shoo! shoo shoo!]

[thehellsaint]

being an endo is some of the most white ppl shit I've ever heard 💀

wdym you're so privileged with spare time and energy that you roleplay being disabled to get chronically online social credit

[cassiopeacollective]

Saw a post about "reminder to systems" bla bla bla hurtful shit yk

So anyways

Reminder to all systems

Don't let people tell you that what happens in your system is wrong and faking. Everyone is different. If you treat your headspace as if it was a real place, so what? Does it hurt someone? No! Have fun, you've been through enough already and you don't need to worry about if you're faking or not. You have typing quirks? So what? As long as you're being respectful and giving translations, you're not doing anything wrong! Your littles don't speak 'normally'? So what! If it's how they talk, it's how they talk!

You're perfect the way you are, not one system is the same <3/p

Endos DNI this is not for you

[the-whistle-system]

I hate the weird spiritual argument endos use to validate their existence

Endos talk about their plurality with such vagueness. It’s always about how there’s other forms of plurality that we don’t know of yet and it’s all so spiritual or whatever the fuck

Meanwhile people with DID, OSDID, CDD (etc) talk about the cause of their disorders with actual medical proof followed with rants about how it’s ruining their lives

It’s almost like it’s a disorder that ruins you life

It goes like this…

“So why do you have multiple people living inside your brain?”

DID systems: We have an identity disorder that effects our perception of reality because we were constantly traumatized as children

Endos: idk life is a mystery :)

[shattered-system]

Yes, punk is about going against the grain— sometimes

As in, discrimination against minorities is not punk

As in, abelism is not punk

Therefore endos aren’t punk

Hope this helps! ❤️

[cozmo-system]

imagine being so disconnected from reality you directly compare a sex trafficker to fan writers and artists, go rip off a toenail

[internally-weird]

Since all anti arguements are founded in propaganda and eerily close to what an abuser of mine would say, they often trigger/bring out the worst in me.

I've had episodes where I had felt so unsafe because of them I have thrown up and become a angry terrible nasty person.

Though if they gave a shit about anyone's mental health but their own then we wouldn't have antis

im sorry that thats happened to you anon :[ i have a feeling most antis dont even notice how ableist most of their arguments and points are.

they claim to support victims untill the victims are weird to them. they send proshippers death threats and ominous comments that could easily trigger someone to an episode under the guise that they want to 'protect victims', but the truth is they dont care.

its like the people who claim to care about mental health untill someone has a 'weird' or 'bad' disorder. you have to fit in their box of 'normal' and if you dont, then youre not actually a victim coping, youre an evil cp enjoyer who likes little kids and incest irl.

[fight-nights-at-freddys]

I hate these posts.

either you are AGAINST the idea of thought-crimes, or you're not. just bc someone's a paraphile does NOT make them any kind of offender. being proship, you almost HAVE to be pro-(anti contact) para, because part of being proship is recognizing that your imagination also can't hurt anyone.

ignoring all that, though, the other glaring issue is that these are the exact arguments antis make towards us. calling people predators with no proof, saying paras should "keep it private", that paras are trying to "groom" people into believing their paraphilias are good. replace "paras" with "proshippers" and you've got the same dumb arguments WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR YEARS.

EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, what happened to using the block button? why do y'all forget all about that as soon as it's a paraphile, or at minimum, someone you DEEM to be a paraphile. y'all are no better than the people you are against.

[candy-cloud-system]

Tw: syscourse ,

Endos DNI with this post.

Hot take; I shouldn’t have to be terrified to read / like posts. I should have to read the tags to make sure it’s not posted by an endo trying to infiltrate our spaces. I shouldn’t have to fear that the thing I’m gonna read is going to send me into a spiral because it’s gonna be some stupid ass shit about how “traumagenic systems are losers” or whatever the other stuff endos say about us is.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTER WHO SITS OVER MY SHOULDER EVERY TIME I OPEN THIS APP THAT CAN PULL ME AWAY INCASE SOMETHING GETS BAD.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE A THING I, A TRAUMATIZED SYSTEM, SHOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN LOOKING FOR COMFORT OR SILLY CONTENT TO CHEER ME UP REGARDING THE TRAUMA FORMED DISORDER THAT WILL FOREVER MAKE MY LIFE DIFFICULT.

“Endos don’t hurt anyone🥺🥺🥺”

yes they fucking do.

- Sharkbite

[literal--legend]

actually fucking hate endos so much

i dont think theyre real, like the concept of being a system without trauma isnt real to me, but like even if it fucking was, they need to stay out of system (DID/OSDD1/PDID/UDD) spaces anyways

these spaces arent for you, these spaces are made for people with trauma and a disorder from said trauma and endos do not belong in our spaces

and no there is no “traumaendo” bullshit, youre either a system formed from trauma and you may have parts who form and you arent sure why but that doesnt make them “endo” parts youre just ableist! Once youre a system, parts can form at any time whenever the brain thinks its necessary even if you have no idea why

[thehellsaint]

"having ASPD/NPD doesn't make you evil!!!!"

This is true but I'm also evil on top of having these disorders

[sotiredofendos]

One thing I won’t ever understand is the endos who claim not to have dissociation or identity confusion, or that it’s not necessary to be “plural” or have a system/alters. I mean this genuinely, what the fuck do they think alters are ? Alters ARE dissociated self states, alters ARE identity confusion. Alters aren’t just these people running around in your head, they are parts of you that are dissociated. They aren’t souls who can posses you, they are you, they are all part of your brain — separated by dissociation, amnesia and identity confusion. Without that, there is absolutely no difference between you and another alter in your system, besides just deciding to call yourself by a different name and identity at certain times. Is that what endos are ??

Like actually wtf do endos think alters are