#avas demon theory

[avasdemonedits]

Maybe Mio closed their eyes to prevent getting involved in the prism baby shenanigans????

[youngmoviemaker]

MAGGIE LORE DROP! MAGGIE LORE DROP! MAGGIE LORE DROP! MAGGIE-

[rottenguppy]

Working on a wicked long essay/analysis/theory(?) for Titan.

This is a follow up to THIS analysis/theory about Wrathia.

I might actually have to do this in two parts if it gets too long.

It'll be a little bit before it's done (I have to reread the comic again to find the panels I need).

I'm curious if anyone has like, their own little theories about anything related to Titan.

(fun fact I had this idea in drafts for months, but remaking my OC for this comic just fueled me to redo it)

[butterabrod]

So it's getting shorter, huh? Maybe, the pencil symbolizes the length of the story, and maybe, it symbolizes Ava as the one who's leaving traces in other's hosts lives, writing her own story.

[jabberwockprince]

are we gonna address the recent chapter's drawings. bc i think we should address the recent chapter's drawings. like, are these placeholders? i dont think so but. HELLO?

chapter 29 has the palace and all the colors being filtered through it. chapter 30 has rueby, and chapter 31 seems to have emris perhaps? and ava

something about how chapter 29 is about erios and the prismates, the privileged and the people in power with this colorful and bright thumbnail, but chapter 30 and 31 tackle those who are less fortunate and straight up suffering in poverty in this black and grey style

something about that is very reminiscent of this

something about how erios and excessans are related to gluttony, to eat and leave nothing behind. to have tylotung, the embodiment of gluttony itself, and their dead body buried under the new civilization. something about chapter 30 being "the bright side of the moon", followed by the dark side of the moon. these monochrome and minimalistic thumbnails

[fanlovedlt]

Parts I have noticed in the recent Ava’s demon updates part 1:

(Spoilers for anyone who hasn’t seen the latest update since I’m mentioning the previous updates and the latest updates)

I kinda like this entire panel that shows where each host is sitting at and the way that they’re sitting because you can usually tell how a person is by the way they act at another person’s house:

In this panel, for example, Ava and Gil are the only two that are sitting up straight with their legs together that is usually indicated to be very polite and proper. While Maggie and Odin are more relaxed and not exactly being improper, but they seem to be lounging more than just sitting specially Odin because I do not know what is going on with his legs, is he like that tall compared to the other hosts?

I love how we’re also learning a bit more about Erios’ backstory from these new humanoids! I also love how equally accepting that they are that just because that they are hunted by Titan, they seem to be the type that would be of importance to the story because of how accepting they were to help them hide. 

Odin Arrow it’s OK. You’re not a weirdo to me!!! 💕💕💕💕💕 but I just love seeing his expressions in the comic and how he’s the type to usually stay quiet and listen instead of giving attention to himself. He’s so smart💕💕

This definitely proves that Erios’ “demon” causes them a lot of trouble, not just by themselves, but with others around. They are practically similar alongside with Ava because both of their demons have caused major impact in their life by ruing their image and their relationships with others. This could be because of how someone either said the author or a theory that Erios’ and Ava’s demon are close friends so I probably explains their similar but yet different behaviors.

1) it’s 2 AM where I am so gonna try to make this quick: I love that no matter what, Emris feels no guilt or pity for Erios because of all the suffering that they are going through while they are being raised in a more safer and financially stable housing compared to the rest down below.

2) they are probably my most favorite character in this comic due to their personal feelings and opinions towards Titan and Nimis. 

Weird theory, but since they are mentioning about how one can only become a Prismate unless they pass a test to see if they are compatible to probably birth the next heir, since it has been theorized that Maggie could possibly become a love interest to Erios, would that mean that Maggie might go through a similar situation where she either was caught or detained and is forced to do the test either because 1) Erios might end up liking Maggie when they see her or 2) Only doing so, so she doesn't get put into jail?

Honestly, I think that sounds a bit more accurate but we will see I guess.

btw I was wondering why Maggie’s expression looked familiar until I forgot:

I am sorely convinced that because that Maggie and Ava were raised in the exact same area and we’re considered childhood friends, that they have similar personalities or similar behaviors that we just don’t recognize yet unless I’m the slow one and somebody already figured it out.

[juggalism]

official translation guide for the excessan language, nimish ! i dont think it was there when the last update was first posted so some might have missed it.

also! tylotung's species gets a name; voracians! the text reads "voracian excessan unification", and since thats tylo on the left im guessing on the right is a past ruler of the excessans (or theyre both just representations of the 2 species? idk). i have a theory about this "unification" thing but i think im gonna save that for another time, the part of it that most effects this post is that it looks like the voracian language was incorporated into nimish as capital letters

under the cut im gonna post translations of past pages!

2775 - Rise and shine Excessa!

2797 - TITANPORT EXCESSA

2800 & 2803 - IRIS FARMS FACILITY

*EDITED* 2806 - [mrlammb] [all or nothing] [BELBEEPS] [d**dle] (doodlesprout on twitch)

2807-2808 - CO OP

2809 - REPAIRS GOODS PAR?? (parts?) TECH SE??

2817 - [THIS END UP] [SCRAP]

i started trying 2820 and 2822 but i got frustrated; i will say tho the keyboard, for the most part, has sets of letters rather than individuals, which i think is really interesting

2826 - [Logging On] [Greetings from Excessa // We're taking your stuff! Thanks!]

2827 - STAND BY...

[yuckso]

Could these two be possibly related?? The hair and shade are the same colour (except for the style) and their eyes and skin colour are also the same. Could they be related or probably could be a random colour of choice

[doublethetheories]

What Is Up With Pedri's Horns? (Mini Theory)

We've only seen three Vengess so far in the series, but this panel is enough to bring up some big questions: Why do Pedri's horns go down?

Here we see Wrathia's horns go down (we also see it in Ava), while her ex-husband's go upwards. Initially, because my theory friend and I have been discussing Nevy's involvement with the two of them, my head immediately wanted to ask if it was something Nevy might've caused. However, Ava's horns go down as well, which, unless Wrathia somehow pushed her physical trama onto Ava's new form, makes me lean towards it being something that people are just born with.

Which oviously immediately made me think, is Pedri trans?

But I think it could be more symbolic than that; Remember how I discussed Wrathia's power grab back in her and Nevy's story dissection. She was born low, significantly less powerful/important than she is now. Maybe her betrayal to Nevy was that she left her to marry a high-born, hence why the unnamed husband's horns go upwards?

Additionally, as my friend pointed out, Pedri appears to have been a shepherd at one point in his life before marrying Wrathia. He wasn't born in power either; He was a working-class until he, for one reason or another, caught Wrathia's attention and became her husband.

So yea, I think the horns represent the hierarchy within Vengess society.

Or he's trans. 🏳️‍⚧️🎉

[tack-the-pretty-boy]

Theory: Taxiarch Five

I've been obsessed with Ava's demon for a while and this is my contribution (probably the only one)

I was scrolling through @doublethetheories theories on Ava's demon and saw one of Five (you should see)

I don't agree with them and this is my interpretation

Five, as showed by double has triangles as pupils and a chest piece as a triangle, too. They tried to theorize about Five being a host too, but I doubt it.

If you saw many theories or just done the math by Ava's name and the other demon's name, you can see that many view the demons as the seven deadly sins and for me that makes sense.

So, for me, Five is part of the seven virtues, she is supposed to antagonize Maggie but also reflect, like the two sides of the same coin.

(Five is one of the few characters to be hinted to have romantic feelings, which is a huge part of Maggie's character and something important to her as well.

There is also the hair that is styled like Maggie but more 'disciplined', and that is something very important since most of the followers with the whole get-up have short hair)

[shslflamingarrow]

is this anything

[butterabrod]

Old Michelle's Q&A pt.6

Hey-Hi, it's a comeback!

Spoilers for the fresh update

Hmmmm

Yeah, with some adjustments, it'd be a cosy place

Here's how, I think, Ava will take over the mothership

At first I've thought the gang is gonna be turned by locals

And so while escaping and fighting Ava will win the ship

But after the recent update I think she will be able to destroy the wall, however it won't be easy and fast, attracting too much attention from Titanauts.

Exhausted by using her powers she won't be able to have a good fight

I don't think that it will harm Ava that much, but they will be able to catch her

And they will regret this

[i-would-like-to-dance]

"You're here!"

　"Now you can get to know me. Why don't you sit down, wouldn't that be nice?"

★·.·´She/They`·.·★　　✧*:.｡. TransFem ..｡.:*✧　　✿*:･ﾟ17yﾟ･:*✿

"Okay! What else should I say? Uhm... How about..."

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There will probably have some hand-drawn arts (I'll start digital art someday), me talking about random things and Slay the Princess, because I simply love this game (If you haven't noticed).

There will be tons of poetry, I love writing and I need to practice English poems.

There will be some angst material, I like to write sadness too.

I speak both English and portuguese, I'm still learning spanish.

Also, you can call me Lynndry, if you want! That's the nickname I use everywhere, to be honest. Or you can call me Lynn, if 'Lynndry' is too much for you.

If you wanna be friends, please don't be scared and come talk to me! I love to get to know to people, and I also need to practice my English </3

My song type is: If I like it, then I'm into it!

Yet, my favorite singer of all is Laufey.

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I am in alot of fandoms, which I cannot quite tell all of them, because I can't remember. I'll try to say the ones I do remember!

Videogames: Slay the Princess (Obviously); Scarlet Hollow; Forsaken; Block Tales; Frozen Soul/Dream Game; SEWH; Regretevator; Let Him Go; Gasa4; Jim's Computer; Pressure; Undertale/Deltarune; Doki Doki Literature Club (Plus); Omori; Literally every PVZ game; Henry Stickmin; (More TBA).

TV shows/Movies: Over The Moon; Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous/Chaos Theory; Bee and Puppycat; My Little Pony/MLP Equestria Girls; TADC; Gravity Falls; Hilda; TAWOG; Hilda; Alan Becker Animations (AvM, AvA, AvEducation, etc); Kpop Demon Hunters; (More TBA).

　　　　　 "Sorry if it isn't much... I think I just forgot."

　　　　　　　　　 ✧Do NOT interact✧

　　"Not to be rude, but... I need to be honest, don't talk to me if you are..."

Basic criteria (transphobic, racist, etc), extremely rude for no reason.

I would say more, but I don't know the long list of bad people out there, yet if I recognize you're bad, I won't waste time on blocking you. I try to be the nicest possible, so you can try too.

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I don't have any other way of finishing this so... Have a little roleplaying.

"Sorry, I don't know what else to say right now... I don't know what I want."

"..."

"Actually..."

"But there aren't any stars here... I had to leave."

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"I'm sorry... I don't know what else to say."

"Let's... Just get out of here."

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"Sorry for crying, I... Don't really know what's wrong with me."

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"I... Hope we can still be friends, even if I don't have anything else to say about myself."

"..."

"If you're still reading this then... I think you still like me, thanks."

"Now let's get out of here, together."

You both don't exchange words as you descend the stairs to the entrance.

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A quiet moment passes over you. A comfortable quiet.

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"Thank you for taking me here. This is nice, even if we're at the end of the post."

[fanlovedlt]

My opinion about the previous update last week.

Spoilers but not really for previous avas demon update:

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I love the fact that the party announcement was gonna play during this whole start of the conversation they were gonna have.

They both apparently wake up with literally two airhorns I don’t blame them. Maggie definitely look like that. She had an irritated dream while we all know what Gil was probably dreaming about~~~~~~

Not gonna lie I had to ask my twin sister to read this update for me because I was genuinely worried that this whole conversation was going to go haywire or probably go worse in case of everyone was going to get in disagreement, but I’m glad that Ava also wanted to apologize and admit that she did definitely say some hurtful things to Gil when her only plan was to try to recruit him and get him to trust her.



I’m glad that Maggie doesn’t seem to be butting in and it’s just allowing Gil and Ava to have a time to talk. But not gonna lie I really did like Maggie having her hair down. It just made her look very pretty, and very sort of calm because with her hair up it just kinda look like she was always ready for something while her having her hair down just kind of seems like she’s more relaxed. I don’t know how to explain it. it’s like as a girl myself I always put my hair up whenever I need to do something while I only allow my hair down whenever I know I’m going to relax or I’m just going to chill so I guess it’s kinda like that.



Ava was definitely on a roll here. She seemed as if she wanted Gil to trust her that she would believe him if he were to admit that he has Nevi as a host same way that Ava has Wrathia as her pacted demon.

I also enjoyed that Gil does seem to be listening to her, but doesn’t exactly want to put his full attention towards her probably meaning that he is still having second thoughts on whether or not to fully forgive her or to fully believe her since he’s right on one thing, they are still very different.

Ava honey no it was definitely not fate. I’m sorry, but I feel so bad that these four were stuck with having to be the host of four powerful demons that no matter what affected their life to the point where affected the people around them and affected the way of their own thinking like they couldn’t really spend their childhood doing what they want because there was always something going on.

Example:

Wrathia practically controlled Ava’s life to the point where she made her be abandoned by everyone around her.

Even though we don’t know too much, I want Pedri to Odin, all we can guess is that that similar to Wrathia, Pedri didn’t really controlled Odin, but he did become somebody that Odin was terrified of exact same way that Wrathia terrified Ava.

From what we can guess with Nevi, even though she didn’t hurt Gill in anyway, she did became the reason that when Gil tried to talk about her, or tried to understand her existence, people started considering him a weirdo because he was either seen talking to himself or doing something when he was alone.

And we don’t know too much about Maggie and Tuls, but I can’t imagine on how Maggie had to be careful with being packed with Tuls especially with the leaves, coming out of her hair and having to use his powers to get someone to like her only for that to fail and weaken him a bit.

So no matter what it pained me when Ava started talking about how it was fate that brought them together when in my opinion, they were just the unlucky group that were chosen to be hosts with a bunch of demons who wanted to escape a failed victory of some sort. 

[fipindustries]

you know what, this is the REAL list to vote about

How many webcomics of my list have you read?

this is not necesarily every comic i read but is every single one i enjoyed at least at the time i read them

*Homestuck

*sweet bro and hella jeff

*paradox space

*Jailbreak

*Problem Sleuth

*Fleek

*Demon

*Kill six billion demons

*Poppy o'possum

*shallowskin

*Paranatural

*Trying human

*String theory

*The Meek

*Stand still stay silent

*prague race

*tiger, tiger

*penny arcade

*so you're a cartoonist

*fanboys

*endtown

*out of placers

*any other name

*feast for a king

*port sherry

*awkward zombie

*shrub monkeys

*girls next door

*hanna is not a boys name

*foreach

*lackadaisycats

*phoebe and her unicorn

*gunnerkrigg court

*powernap

*ennui go!

*the glass scientists

*sfeer theory

*el goonish shive

*limerence

*le bouletcorp

*apothecia

*dresden codak

*venus envy

*the perry bible fellowship

*CyLynn

*concession

*ava's demon

*scandinavia and friends

*i am my own mascot

*isidore and friends

*sandra and woo

*oglaff

*meange a 3

*wacky lesbian hour

*prequel

*love me nice

*/fit/ comics

*manly guys doing manly things

*the property of hate

*TF2 comics

*let's speak english

*litterbox

*gaysome

*xkcd

*smbc

*team special olympics

*demon´s mirror

*translucid

*warrior U

*hark! a vagrant

*the anime club 70

*cucumber quest

*seed

*clarissa

*hobo lobo of hamelin

*sexy losers

*asaekkiga

*bomango

*2D googles

*the adventures of TJ and amal

*ctrl+alt+del

*disregarding reality ;)

[avas-demon-plot-twists]

MASSIVE THEORY: OLAI/MAGPIE/SLOTH/GREED/TITAN?

Going through some of the information we have received thus far in the comic's progression, and going over previous theories, I think I finally have some concrete theories that might illuminate the goals of Greed/Greed Host (I will be referring to them as one due to a bonus theory at the bottom), as well as some of the history with Sloth Host, and what Olai knows about Magpie. You’re forewarned, this will be long and tin-foily. Strap in. A long time ago it was theorized that Sloth Host would be paired with the demon we now know as Tylotung due to the snake image within the potion panel of Wrathia's plan arc. I think this theory was close - not that Sloth Host is paired with Tylotung, but that they are the same race. I think Sloth may have been a part of their kingdom and perhaps usurped the crown, agreeing to languish in service to Titan to keep the throne, perhaps even submitting themselves to the process I will outline below in order to keep their position. In previous interviews with regard to the Alice in Wonderland inspirations; Sloth Host is referred to as The Duchess (an antagonist to the Queen of Hearts). Perhaps they are at war with a DIFFERENT Queen. I'm not sure if Tylotung was a ruler or not (I can't remember I'm sorry), but at they very least they rebelled against Titan - I believe that they were forced into Erios as a Titan experiment, perhaps this was Sloth Host’s way of ridding themselves of political opposition/taking power. Moving from here to get into Veevra Avarace (Greed's) involvement - I would like to circle back to the plan pages (see second to last pair of pages for Greed). They seem to be farming some kind of souls from crystals - I believe it has something to do with the demon warriors. I believe that this image is meant to symbolize Greed being the true puppeteer to all of Wrathia’s warriors - perhaps someone pulling the strings of Wrathia herself. Being as they are Titan's premier weapon mechanic, I believe they are also responsible for the technology that afflicted Erios with Tylotung, as well as Gil's pairing with Nevy (I think that Nevy’s memory loss was a part of the kinks of this process).  Perhaps they are even the reason for Ava with Wrathia/Maggie with Tuls/Odin with Pedri if any of the above referenced were receiving any sort of aid from a Titan hospital. (Before you come and tell me none of them did - we do not know this for certain; it was established that Titan has been ruling for a long time, so even if not directly linked, being serviced by Titan RoboRats, it could STILL be Titan technology. In any case, I think at the very least the first two I am positive about - Ava, Maggie & Odin could have been random chance or perhaps something even more deliberate, and I will touch on these below...).

I think that Veevra presented their ability to create super-warriors and superior weaponry as a mechanism to get in with Titan, I think Titan LOVED what Veevra brought to the table, and I think that Titan is rolling out their own “demon” making program to facilitate more of their cultish activities. In terms of this in action there are two ways we could be going: ONE - Titan KNOWS about Wrathia’s Demon’s placements, and deliberately set them into bodies in order to monitor and destroy the opposition, and is creating his own army of “demons” at the speed of sound. TWO - Titan doesn’t know everything about the soul-bonding process/Wrathia’s warrior locations, and is trusting Greed’s knowledge of it (perhaps Greed positioned themselves as a ‘defector’ of Wrathia, but is working on the inside to help dismantle the machinations of Titan either to benefit Wrathia’s cause or their own — surprise plot twist the big bad is Greed after we defeat Titan?) to fight an enemy that Greed clued them into. In either case, Titan would need to create their own warriors, and a lot of them, hence Odin’s notebook, and the various signals - some being Titan, others being ‘organic’ demons? I think per another theory that D in his notebook stands for Dead, with T standing for Titan, and perhaps M being for the ‘Giant Mother’ Goddess he referred to; perhaps he actually picked up on Avas Signal, and ASSUMED it was coming from Maggie (just another note, I don’t think Dead necessarily means they weren’t originally Titan signals; it’s quite possible there were failures along the way to strong Titan Vessels. Pretty sure Titan, and Greed for that matter, view other lifeforms as expendable in the name of conquest).

I think this entire thing is a giant conspiracy, and various races have agreed to work with Titan in exchange for access to Titan tech, as well as protections/powers within his domain: eg Erios agreeing to be a part of the program (they sign everything put in front of them to get more from Titan Industries), my suspicion about Sloth Host (selling out a monarch, as well as themselves to keep status quo/obtain a luxurious life), and SOMEHOW Olai is able to stay afloat, AND gets access to titan technology - I think the story Olai gave Odin about ‘finding’ the tech is a total lie. I think he might’ve made a deal to kick his brother to the curb. I think he truly is terrible enough to sell out his own family to benefit himself, AND I think he could have done it twice. At the very least, I really do think he is behind Magpie’s possession. (Remember Odin’s story is the wolf and the fox, where Odin is implied to be the fox, and it would appear that Olai is positioned as the wolf: the wolf uses conniving and treachery to control the fox - I think if my theories are correct, once this is all revealed to Odin, Olai will meet a Titan-centric demise). 

I think that Magpie is not a “demon” vessel, but a Titan Vessel. Does anyone else find it odd, in hindsight, that Magpie’s “demon” was SO friendly? She was four(?), and she was completely jazzed about her “invisible friend.” At Magpie’s age, I believe this was likely an idea given to her by whatever inhabited her eg ‘we’re friends, let’s be friends.’ 

Which demons have we seen refer to themselves as ‘friends’? Have any of them? While yes, we have had Tuls, and Nevy: these demons could be considered friendly, but let’s examine this. Tuls I would say is more of a passive aggressive doormat due to Maggie’s directly aggressive personality (I think frankly if he could have strong-armed her, he probably would have - and I don’t mean violently, I just mean by being the more potent personality). He’s a pushover/sad sack of mulch as Wrathia put it - he’s nice enough, don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t seem as he tried to win Maggie over so much as he’s just along for the ride and in a slight state of apathy/fear. To be fair we haven’t seen the entirety of this relationship, this is just my take. With regard to Nevy, Gil is TERRIFIED of her as well as what she means to him, and she fails to communicate well enough with him to break this barrier right up until she makes herself useful. Even then, she doesn’t classify herself as a friend per se; Gild does once she ‘dies’. Even so for the most part, the demons are upfront in their saying “our relationship is transactional. You have something you want, I have something I want - let’s make a pact.” If not completely going after their own motivations irrespective of their host. Friendship is not the highest priority unless serving another power (in Nevy’s case she still asks him for something - to help her find her place in the universe; and you can even see her get visibly upset/insistent on him doing this for her prior to regaining her memories - she hasn’t built up the friendly rapport to trust him to do her bidding).

I think the reason Magpie had such a positive relationship with her “demon” is because Magpie’s Vessel is not truly a demon, but a diabolical link to the Titan Hivemind. I think that a sentient agent was put inside of her: something savvy enough to communicate the message that they are ‘not a threat’ and get her to comply at a young age. It may not even be a ‘demon’; we never saw Magpie’s possessor. For all we know she could be seeing a ‘friendly’ image of Titan themselves (anyone else find it weird that we don’t get to see her demon; and that her eyes in her cast photo are TITAN BLUE?)

In terms of the process, I believe the paradise machine has something to do with this. With what we saw of The Paradise Machine, and what we have seen of Titan's technology, they are able to replicate the demon curse abilities (notice how Strategios could do this PRIOR to their reboot; almost as if they knew what Ava would potentially be able to do) to a degree, as if they have some tactical knowledge of it, and it could be someone is greedily withholding the actual intel (effectively by way of potions - perhaps they don’t know exactly the way to brew the potions, only how to use them/what they do essentially; jury’s out on that one). The Paradise Machine failed (Prudith was already not functional in this frame; the skin did not fit), because the construct it tried to fit over Prudith was coded for Ava’s frame; can you imagine what it may have produced if it were making a new Prudith? As far as the order of possession, and how things happened, I think that Maggie, Ava, Odin & Sloth Host may have been accidents/tests - perhaps releasing demon souls to observe how the pair bonds work in order to perfect the accuracy of the "soul bonding" process. I will have to observe Sloth host to confirm this theory / gather the order, but per the Potions Page I believe the aforementioned listing would be the correct order [with each iteration bringing them closer to perfecting the process before bringing their findings to Titan/deciding to place demons within hosts].

It could be that Veevra themselves is a free agent seeing as they are also paired with a demon that looks suspiciously similar to them? Perhaps they infused themselves to become twice as strong? Perhaps their interior 'demon' is their alter-ego (why is the titan page right after the greed page in the above linked pages of demons)? If you've read this far, thanks for tuning in. This was a long scramble to put together, and I would love to hear any insight. Can't wait for the updates, and hope the above stuff at least sounds interesting?

TLDR: Greed will be the real villain.