#except telemachus and penelope

[kohiiflux]

"I am not sorry for loving you" the song ; helps me a lot in helping me to emotionally sort out my problems that I had with my unrequited crush and it pains me so much to remember the character who sung this song

[backpackingspace]

Consider a scene where telemachus is oh I don't know a month old. Odysseus is refusing to put him down. Let alone let anybody hold him (including penelope). Odysseus clutching his son tight to his chest as he (carefully) runs around the room. Penelope chasing him screaming that it was her turn it's not fair that odysseus held him all of yesterday and this morning. Odysseus, in a fit of madness, prays to Athena. Athena showing up in full battle mode because she already insured that Ithaca would not be distributed what's happening who's dying why... she manifests fully her spear out only to find her weaver at the end of her spear point, frozen in shock as odysseus runs away cackling.

[curioud-epic]

finished the ithaca saga and HES FINALLY HOME GUYS. there was a lot of murder and that ending made me cry so hard i needed to stop sketching.

[lyraofthestarsss]

I love how Calypso’s instruments (steel pan and also sometimes acoustic guitar) are SO prominent in love in paradise, and when Odysseus is standing on the ledge. But as SOON as she says “open arms”, as SOON as Odysseus starts thinking about the people he loves, a viola starts playing

[cgoblinqueen]

So I just thought of a weird AU for Epic, which I'm not sure if I'll expand upon further, but I just wanna put out there so here it is:

Eurylochus discovers Odysseus's plan to use 6 men as bait so the rest could survive Scylla, and has the crew mutiny before they go through the lair. The crew decides that the primary goal isn't even to get home anymore but to survive, and they can't do that if Poseidon is still pissed at them, making it hard to sail anywhere. So the crew reluctantly agrees to make a deal to hand over Ody to Poseidon to do with as he likes so that they could be free to go. Eurylochus makes one final desperate plea as a contingency to the deal, because Ody is his brother-in-law and was his closest friend, to not kill him.

Poseidon is super petty and agrees, trying to further push that angle of cruelty being better than mercy, and this "mercy" is retribution for letting Polyphemus live in agony. Furthermore, for being so cheeky about the hiding-within-a-horse thing he pulled at Troy, Poseidon transforms Ody into a hippocampus, a sort of aquatic horse with a fish tail. This is to taunt him as he could swim all the way to Ithaca and see his home, but be cursed to never be able to leave the water. This also ensures that in this form, Penelope would never recognize Odysseus and that he'd be alone forever.

A short while later, back at Ithaca, a fair number of the suitors' boats suddenly start getting attacked, with many of them drowned by some mysterious and powerful creature. One day, a 13-year-old Telemachus spots a strange creature in the distance, swimming some distance from the shore, and decides to investigate. He rows out on his own and tries to get a glimpse, only to be surprised by a very excited, inquisitive, and surprisingly friendly aquatic horse

I don't know where to go from there but if anyone out there wants to do anything with it, go for it :)

(and I guess I'd call this Hippocampus au)

[pineycone]

I love epic but I wish jorge had given penelope an extra song in the wisdom saga or something, bc atp she feels a bit underdeveloped outside of "odysseus’s wife" imo. She had a lot going on in the odyssey!! and I get that "epic is about odysseus specifically!" but telemachus still gets so much more screen time lol (5 songs vs 2 songs for penelope) and we don’t even get to see his relationship with his mom

[middle-earth-marauder]

confession- im a multishipper with a soft spot for Shadamy in certain AUs lol

anyway, concept of something something, EPIC: The Musical AU?

[dootznbootz]

Do y'all ever think about how it's possible that Zeus' first verse in Thunder Bringer is about Penelope and his second is about Odysseus?

She's a "Damsel in Distress" (She's cool af, she just needs some help and misses her idiot), the suitors are prideful and hope to do what Zeus is singing about to her. Pressuring her to choose. Her "true nature" is revealed when her trickery with the shroud is found out .

The 2nd Verse about how Zeus is also the God of Justice and punishing them for the crew's crime of slaying the cattle. Odysseus saves himself to see Penelope again, meaning his crew/people will die. They died for touching Helios' cattle. Odysseus also saves himself AND Helps Penelope by killing all the suitors for their crime of flirting with/bothering Penelope and making her cry, while also bullying and eventually planning to kill his son. Many of Ithaca's men are killed for their pride too. Thinking that they're worthy of Penelope when Nobody is. Flirt with the Wife, you get the knife.

Penelope and Odysseus DO take each others' suffering away when they reunite as well. 🥹

[dynasty889]

I’ve never drawn them this close to each other lmao this is weird. Also Telemachus looks oddly pissed and like he’s judging his dad lmao

[undercoverangell]

rough mockup of general designs and colors for the sillies

[nikoisme]

hi hi so 1) you seem very very cool and i thought u should know that :D and 2) GREEK MYTHOLOGY PET PEEVE???

(mine is that one 500(?) rewriting of the Perseus myth where there's a happy ending and the guy that sent him didn't actually want to marry his mother and get him killed)

(i think it's perseus i might be going a wee bit mad and it's another hero that starts with P)

Aaa thank you so muchh!! :'D I'm really happy you think that hahaha

I think my pet peeve is the Telegony. I really don't like the Telegony. It just doesn't make much sense and kind of goes against a lot of the things the iliad and the odyssey established. Of course there are going to be different versions of the myths,, but this is just a big no for me lmaoo

[shidraoftheworldpillar]

I have an inexplicable urge to make fursonas for epic the musical characters so woe furry be upon ye:

Odysseus: wolf or fox (or both???)

Polites: firefly

Eurylechus (or however you spell it): badger or bull

Antinous: grizzly bear

Circe: red panda

Zeus: thunderbird

Poseidon: hippocampus

Hermes: jackolope

Athena: owl

calypso: tropical bird like a hoatzin or scarlet ibis

penelope: I'm not sure, if yall please suggest suggest good species thatd be awesome

Telemachus: a hybrid of Odysseus and Penelope's species

EDIT: Calypso is now a marine iguana cause we gotta have some reptile representation and antinous is a really scruffy stray cat that crawled out of an alleyway in the middle of a storm

[abearthatwrites]

A Brief Rundown of the IRL Ithaca Saga (to the best of my memory, in probably not chronological order)

jorge (creator, odysseus) decided it'll be cool to celebrate the ithaca saga with the epic cast via a trip to ithaca, greece

surely nothing can go wrong

mico (telemachus) seemingly found out about the trip with the rest of the fandom. he proceeded to plot a trip to ithaca

the epic cast dealt with multiple broken vans and missed a ferry by one minute. they had to cancel a stream because they were too exhausted

mico made it onto a plane

ithaca got hit by a typhoon, forcing them to move another stream indoors

mico got banned from tiktok. it was reversed

mason (tireseas) asked luke (zeus) to stop the rain. luke refused

the crew hiked up to odysseus' palace. they ran into a roadblock. mason looked into the future and did not see a way around it. (they found a way around it)

the crew found a well and sang their epic songs into it. except jp (crew) who just sang happy birthday

janani (aphrodite) also sang "royal we" into the well

anna (penelope) made it onto the plane to fly out to ithaca

hermes (troy) decided to take a plane to ithaca like a normal human instead of teleporting. he got side-eyed by a woman at the airport as he slept sprawled out in a chair. this quickly became a meme

hermes arrived in ithaca to the delight of everyone except jorge. mico also appeared in his videos. mico still had not updated anything after getting on the plane

anna's connecting flight got cancelled, leaving her stranded in a fancy hotel. she struggled to find the toilet in her hotel room

mico finally updated, claiming he was stuck in munich. mason appears in the video and gives him a water bottle, proving he is lying

the fandom believes mico anyway

mico is forced to post another video revealing he had been gaslighting us basically the entire time and was just delayed in getting to ithaca, that was all

troy and talya (circe), in character, talk about tea. troy says the tea tastes like her father's approval. earle (ares) then asks for 1000 cups and breaks down crying as luke cuts the camera

jorge posts a video apologizing for mico's absence, encouraging him to fly to ithaca, new york. mico appears in the background of this video

mico posts a video saying that he's finally in ithaca, but the crew is in ithaca, new york. jorge appears in the background of this video

jp films a behind the scenes video, calling out "some random guy" who just showed up asking if anyone knows jorge. it's mico

janani sings "royal we" again, but after she says "troy was breached" troy comes out screaming in pain. mico appears in the background of this, filming the video from two points above

it's time for the ithaca saga livestream... except it gets cancelled because the connection is bad and jorge's devices are dying

TL;DR: the gods saw the epic crew in ithaca and went "do you guys think it'll be really funny if we just. recreated the odyssey"

[anniflamma]

"Waiting, waiting... Ooooh!"

Here comes a proper concept illustration of Odysseus’ wifey!

Since Penelope is very underdeveloped in Epic, it’s hard to pin down what her personality is in the musical, so I’ve drawn a lot of inspiration from the original Odyssey and added some of my own ideas. Initially, I liked the idea of portraying her as a graceful queen, someone who always smiles despite how rudely the suitors treat her. But then I realized I really liked using visual language to show how Odysseus remembers Penelope from his sweetest memories.

Because of all the trauma he experiences on his journey, Penelope becomes more of an "end destination" for him, a symbol of hope. To Odysseus, once he gets back to Penelope, everything will be fine. In his visions or memories, Penelope with a warm smile, little bit soft on the edges. But the real her, the one we meet in The Challenge, looks tired and constantly angry, except, of course, when she thinks about Odysseus. This contrast helps the audience see that she has changed as well, both in how she looks and how she acts, compared to how Odysseus idealizes her.

I also really like the idea that the reason Penelope didn’t kick out the suitors wasn’t out of respect for some tradition that puts her in a position of servitude and compromise. Instead, it’s because Zeus himself came down and told her that if she kicked them out, he would smite Odysseus or Telemachus. That interpretation does fit how Epic the musical portrays Zeus so.....

This puts her in a position where she endures all of this to protect the ones she loves, rather than just following a tradition that don't even respect her due to she is a woman.

Also, funny thing, my first drawing of her was that reveal shot from the Thunder Bringer animatic!

And of course, she gets a veil! Similar to Hera and Circe! This choice is rooted in the tradition where married women wore veils, or at least something to cover their hair, when male guests entered their home. If Penelope walked around without a head covering in front of the suitors, it would signal that she was available, which is literally the opposite of what she wanted, don’t you think?

That said, I think I’ll design her veil a little differently. The one I drew here is kind of just a test.

[theodysseyofhomer]

penelope didn't have to turn the tree bed into a riddle. she could have asked odysseus to prove his identity, to tell her something only he would know — which she actually did a few books earlier, when she asked the beggar to describe odysseus, and odysseus told her about a purple cloak with a particular golden brooch that she fastened herself twenty years ago. when penelope tells telemachus they have signs by which they'll know each other, you sort of expect more of the same. and instead, she decides to trap him. like a bug in a cup.

and it's delightful to me, idk, how odysseus has been trapped and cornered in various way throughout the odyssey, but arguably never so that he has to tell the truth to get out. (with the phaeacians, maybe? the omniscient narrator corroborates some of what he tells them, but do we really know everything?) and in fact he is not trying to get free of penelope. he wants something from her, wants to convince her, wants to be welcomed home, but until this point he's lied to her, revealed himself to other people before her, and been distant with her (though also patient! he doesn't try to strongarm or rush her into accepting him; it's his idea to sleep elsewhere).

except penelope isn't looking for him to be distant and patient. penelope lies in a way that requires odysseus to stop playing along — not only to prove that he knows what odysseus knows, but that he's willing to tell the truth about himself.

[windows-dial-up-sound]

Epic the musical where everything is the same except he just fucking. Keeps the baby. Carries it around in a sling. Fights monsters with a baby on his back. Sorry Circe can you chill with the sex stuff, there's a toddler present. Eurylochus you're shouting "Captain" too loud and you'll wake the baby. Hey do you guys think Penelope will mind if I bring back a baby from war? Give Telemachus a little brother, you know?