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Clark…
[ID: panels of Superman talking to Huntress. Clark says, "I'm sorry." Huntress turns to look at him and replies, "What are you talking about? It's not your fault." To which Superman says, "Wanna know a secret? I'm Kryptonian. On a good, sunny day, I can do anything. So every day... whatever happens... it's kind of always my fault." /End ID]
#Some good old fashioned guilt complex right there#:/#from Batman/Superman issue 9#superman#clark kent#huntress#dc comics#dc liveblog
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Batfam and Danny, Part 10
A few hours later.
Overall the mission was successful. They put a stop to Luthor's plot. Green Lantern had collected the radioactive materials and flew them over to the nearest black hole for safe disposal. And the JL handed Luthor to FBI custody. There was one hiccup however, Luthor had found another piece of Kryptonite which he has used against Superman and captured him. When the rest of the league reached Clark he was hanging over a pit of nuclear waste.
The JL move didn't move knowing that with the affects of the Kryptonite Superman could easily die. But Danny quickly pounced on Luthor, stole the Kryptonite from his hands, proceeded to unhinge his jaw, revealing an unhuman number of green-tinted razer-sharp teeth and proceeded to eat the Kryptonite. As Luthor looked on in pure horror he was punched unconscious by a now repowered Clark.
Danny: Aww, I wanted to ask him if he had more crystalized ectoplasm.
Clark (shocked at what just happened): Crystalized ectoplasm? Is that what you call Kryptonite?
Danny: I guess? It's so rare but so delicious. Danny looked around the rest of the JL who looked at him like he was crazy, except Batman who just looked tired, and Constantine who was hiding behind Diana. What?
Bruce: Kid, Kryptonite or as you call it crystalized ectoplasm is highly toxic to Kryptonians like Superman. It's been an issue for years, the only way we knew to permanently destroy Kryptonite was by throwing it into a black hole, so seeing you just eat a piece of it is a little shocking.
Danny: Oh. Danny looked at Clark. I see the issue. Danny reached towards Clark and phased his hand into his chest and snapped his fingers. Clark shivered and backed away. There you go!
Clark: What did you do?
Danny: I removed your weakness to Kryptonite!
The JL stared blankly at Danny.
Clark: Thank you... I have other relatives that also share that weakness, can you remove it from them as well?
Danny: Sure thing, just tell me where and when.
Clark: I will.
Bruce (internally): Well... there goes my contingency plan for Clark... and the whole Kent family.
(Master Post)
Thank you to @confused-they for giving me the idea of Kryptonite being ghost candy in the comments of part 9
#dp x dc crossover#dc x dp crossover#lex luthor#dp x dc#dc x dp#hal jordan#green lantern#justice league#clark kent#superman#danny phantom#danny fenton#ghost king danny#ghost king phantom#bruce wayne#batman#john constantine#diana prince#wonder woman
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Twitter AU Masterpost
I decided to compile a list of my Twitter posts, and just put in a little summary of what goes on in each so anyone who wants to can find whichever one they want.
Now also on AO3:
Part 1
Damian bullies Bruce and Dick messes with him, Bruce simps for Superman on main and Clark and Damian take on a hater in the replies, Jason wants to be verified and his siblings bully him a little.
Part 2
A fan of Nightwing's gets a picture of him and Robin and Red Robin battle it out in the replies while Flash stirs up shit, Donna posts a picture of Dick and the Fab Five take on a hater, Damian texts Dick about his profile picture, a lucky Gothamite snaps not one but two pictures of Batblob.
Part 3
Nightwing posts a picture and the people of Bludhaven take the time to appreciate him, Red Robin reminisces about kicking Red Hood and Red Hood gets bullied some more, Batman posts a picture of baby Robin!Dick and everyone coos over it, Riddler questions how Batman got his Twitter handle.
Part 4
A warning is issued for Gotham vigilantes about Batman and Catwoman getting busy and Nightwing's trauma about this is addressed, the debate over Batman's sex life is put to rest, Talia issues a clarification and sets the record straight, Gotham discusses Bruce's emo era.
Part 5
Lex hateposts about superheroes and Bruce annihilates him in the replies, there's an investigation into the matter of Luthor's handle, a mysterious troll makes an appearance, Dick questions Clark, Bruce reveals his and Clark's shenanigans from Dick's Robin days, and a hater is given even more power.
Part 6
Lex is salty and Lois and Clark tear him apart, Superman posts a picture and is accused of plagiarism, Nightwing starts a trend, Babs takes issue with her overuse of coffee being questioned.
Part 7
Oracle and Red Hood reveal the story of why Joker is banned from Twitter, the people of Gotham reminisce about an old tradition, Bruce gets roasted by Alfred, Damian has a wholesome interaction.
Part 8
Damian bonds with Dick and gets trolled by Steph, Spoiler finally creates an account, Spoiler poses a question to the people of Gotham, Batman is bullied by his kids and a billionaire.
Part 9
Spoiler gets a present, mistakes have consequences, Red Robin questions Nightwing's decisions, a resident of North Dakota has a life changing experience.
Part 10
Some well-meaning Gothamites stand up for Red Hood and Oracle gives a history lesson, an old face makes a less than triumphant return, the fab five have some fun, a relatable photo of Batman reveals something more and a new player enters the picture.
Part 11
Harley Quinn beats up Joker, Flash is disgusted by Nightwing, Batman's hypocrisy is revealed, Superman has some fun at Batman's expense.
Part 12
Black Canary fondly remembers a better time, Green Arrow confronts Batman, Green Arrow issues an apology, Oliver schemes and plots, a well-kept secret is finally revealed.
Part 13
Arsenal reveals a personal secret, the people discuss some new revelations, the fab five weigh in on Arsenal's problems, Nightwing takes a stand.
Part 14
The Gotham villains share some opinions, Two-Face and Riddler have an argument, Flash finally picks a side, Green Arrow evades responsibility.
Part 15
Some observers share some hot takes, the Superfam witnesses a breakdown, Lois asks Bruce for help, Dick puts an end to the ongoing feud, everyone starts to move on.
Part 16
Deathstroke shares a story of a failed assassination, someone loses their Twitter privileges, the Court of Owls tries to recruit Nightwing, Talon gets more than he bargained for, some very recent history repeats itself.
Part 17
Bruce is a meme, The League has some concerns about their monthly budget, Nightwing's personality confuses everyone who knows him.
Part 18
Bruce's mistakes reveal his most defining character trait, an early present for Superman causes chaos in the present, Superman's reactions to the goings on lead to some pleasant destructive results, Bruce's inability to understand memes is discussed
Part 19
Red Hood shares an embarrassing opinion, Red Robin starts an argument, Superman wins massively, the superhero community can agree on one thing.
Part 20
The villains discuss their least favorite Robin, Nightwing defends his pettiness, Red Hood endures some misplaced blame, Tim explains his masterful plan, Jason finally gets a win.
Part 21
The Court of Owls is humbled, Nightwing's friends face a problem, a culprit is found responsible, Arsenal gets in hot water.
Part 22
One of Bruce's childhood obsessions is revealed, Riddler tries to call out Batman and runs his mouth online, Riddler issues an apology, the Wayne kids' comments about Bruce eccentric habits reveals their own inadequacies.
Part 23
A tweet is posted by a concerning individual, the heroes find a surprising ally, Superman is the victim of a prank, Superman fires back.
#DC#DC Comics#Dick Grayson#Bruce Wayne#Clark Kent#Jason Todd#Damian Wayne#Tim Drake#Barbara Gordon#Cassandra Cain#Batman#Superman#Lois Lane#Nightwing#Wally West#Alfred Pennyworth#Wayne Family Adventures#Red Hood#Robin
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Imagine Demon! Reader + Neglected! Wayne x Neglectful! Batfam
[This is the prologue for what might be a series. Also this does involve a Wayne Oc. This is NOT proof read, so sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes I make] There is another part for this Imagine if you wanted to check that out as well! Just click [This]
[Warnings for Death, cult talk, blood sacrifices and all that jazz, child neglect, demon stuff]
So basically what I'm thinking of at the moment is Neglected! Wayne is Bruce's bio kid from some one off fling. He fools around and has a one night stand with this really pretty woman and she ends up pregnant, but doesn't tell him. Months go by and she's the proud mother of one healthy, rambunctious, baby who she lovingly names Percy.
But wait! Since she's a prominent business woman so she has to have a rival who wants her to fail. This rival won't get a name, but they use her pregnancy against her by claiming she's been sleeping around so her reputation takes a slight turn. This, of course, isn't enough to bring her reputation or her business down so the rival takes a step up.
They get in contact with some shady people who start messing up her business. Just some light vandalism to ward off people from working with her. One night they break into the building and smash some stuff, just to get her scared, but it ends up going so wrong.
You see, it was a long day at work and she was just swamped with paperwork so she had to stay late. Of course Percy, freshly aged 9, was working on some homework right next to her because he loves his mother and can't stand being part from her more than necessary.
[And when I say Percy loves her, I mean he admires her the most in the whole world. If anyone where to ask who his hero was he wouldn't say Batman, or Superman, and he might say Wonder Woman if he gave it some more thought, but to him? His first instinct would to say "My mom!" much to her delight.]
But now you might be thinking, where does Demon! Reader come into this whole thing? Well as it would turn out, one of the people who broke in was a paranoid person with a trigger happy finger, and the other was ragging cultist who was just looking for a reason to try out this new cursed tomb he got.
Percy decides he needs to get up and stretch, get his legs moving. It's like his mother always said 'Sitting in one spot for too long leads to a slumped mind, and a curved back' so it was better for him to get up and move his legs once in awhile.
But what's this? The paranoid robber happens to turn the corner just as Percy opens the door and BAM! Percy's mother, who was standing right behind him, falls to the floor and starts bleeding out. Percy freaks out and tries to put pressure on the wound, just like those books he liked to read said to do.
Her blood is everywhere, its all over his hands, his shirt, oh god it's all over him and it wont stop. The robber is also freaking out. He just shot this woman and her child was right there, he felt so so bad about it all.
And then the other one turns the corner and gets a good look at what's happening. So he pulls out his phone and makes a few calls before turning to his partner who was still freaking out, leaving Percy to hear his mothers final words before she goes limp.
The cultist decides 'Yo this is a great time to test out this blood sacrifice page in this wicked old tomb!' and knocks Percy out and drags away his mother. Of course he can't just leave Percy behind, no that would cause unwanted issues because Percy is now a witness, though the robbers forget about the security cameras entirely.
So they shove the two of them in their get away van and instead of driving back to their boss they end up at an unused warehouse. The cultist one gets right to work, drawing out this huge elaborate circle with the mothers blood. Of course he lights some candles, but to make it all the worse he uses drops of Percy's blood instead of his even thought it's what the book says not to do.
The circle glows red and out pops Demon! Reader. Of course this is also the moment Percy wakes up and is rightfully horrified to know he's bleeding from his hand, and Percy is a smart kid so he can put two and two together. He knows his blood was used along with his mothers. Tears are falling from his eyes now because he can't seem to wrap his mind around everything fast enough.
This gets Demon! Reader's attention and so they end up shoving past the two robbers and sits in front of Percy. Demon! Reader is simply fascinated with this crying child. It's not every day a demon sees a living child, especially one that's so full of life and is currently crying.
Doesn't help that Demon! Reader can feel the blood bond between them. Demon! Reader can't hurt Percy, even if they wanted to, due to the fact that the cultist used Percy's blood in the summoning. Just demon things, you know?
This of course, pissed the cultist off and so he starts shouting. Though the shouting and insults don't really bother Demon! Reader, they can tell it's bothering Percy. So they do what they always do and simply devours the cultist.
Buuut that freaks out the other robber so he tries to shoot at Demon! Reader but that obviously doesn't work. So Demon! Reader eats him too! Percy has long since passed out due to the shock of it all, so Demon! Reader changes into the form of a cat and snuggles right up to him.
Demon! Reader can tell they're going to enjoy being tied to this human child. They've already taken it upon themselves to raise them into a strong and healthy person.
[Just gonna flash forward real quick and list out some stuff that happens.]
Percy gets discovered all alone in the warehouse and sent to the cops cause he's covered in blood. Demon! Reader gets to go along because Percy refuses to let go of them and they're still in cat form. Blah blah Percy gets sent to an orphanage who doesn't really care about him but notices the cat that's stuck to him like glue and that his eyes are very similar to Bruce Wayne. They do a blood test and gets shocked that he is a Wayne and then they ship him off to the Wayne Manor.
Though at this point in time Bruce is too busy with mourning the loss of Jason to properly take care of, or even look at, Percy. Then Tim comes along and he get's too busy with bat stuff, and then so does everyone else. Dick doesn't pay attention to them either cause he's always in Blüdhaven and all that jazz. But that's okay cause Percy has Demon! Reader and Alfred to look after him.
Then comes Damian and it all goes to shit from there. Damian, being Damian, pulls a sword on Percy to try and fight him for the title of blood child or whatever. Percy gets cut, right along his left hand [his right hand is the one with a cut from the summoning] and starts to panic because he knows what Demon! Reader would want to do in revenge.
So Percy runs off to his room and does everything he can to keep Demon! Reader from flipping the fuck out and throwing hands with a literal child. But that only makes Damian think less of Percy, seeing him as a coward who only runs away instead of fighting back like a "true" Wayne.
Percy is at least 16 at this point, so he decides to throw caution to the wind and GTFO, much to Demon! Reader's delight. But what's this? Everyone is taking an interest in this forgotten Wayne and don't want him to go.
But who is this stray cat that keeps following him around the manor? And his weird/feral friend who constantly wears a red headband that has demon horns and has a bad habit of biting people? No, no, this simply won't do, Percy needs to make new friends, better friends.
Or better yet, forget the friends, Percy needs to stay with his "Family" and not run off into the big scary world all alone. Moving? Why would Percy move when he has a home at the Wayne Manor?
Cue Demon! Reader flipping their shit and trying to convince Percy to let them kill get rid off his annoying "family" so they can finally travel the world like they'd planned.
[And that's all I can think of at the moment. But just to clear up some stuff, Demon! Reader adores Percy like their own child. And due to Demon customs, Demon! Reader has taught Percy all about being a demon. From how to fight his battles with his own nails and teeth to even manors and habits of demon kind. In this AU Demons are very clingy and affectionate with their family, similar but also different dynamics compared to a wolf or a cat pack. The Strong protect the weak and all that jazz, and in Demon! Reader's eyes Percy is weak but has potential to be strong. So Demon! Reader mother cat's him, picking him up by his 'scruff' when they feel he's in danger, or that he's been away from them for too long.] [If you have any questions about this au, or if you wanna request some more lore/character stuff, my ask box is open!]
#x reader#reader insert#platonic yandere#platonic batfam#batfam x reader#yandere batfam#yandere batfam x reader#drabble#is this enough tags#x oc#x gender neutral reader#I think I talked about Percy a bit more than Demon! Reader#That's okay cause the next post will be all about Demon! Reader#And demon culture#Demon! Reader
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Hello! I’m a bit of a lurker, but I had a question for a friend and I’m not sure if you’re able to answer, but you were the first to come to mind.
As someone who is not too familiar with the DC comics, what would be issues, volumes, etc. to read for a newbie wanting to delve into and highlight Dick & Damian’s relationship? My friend knows about their general stories (ie been watching the DCAMU and DCAU) but want to read more from their comic sources.
I’ve not been able to help them, but if you know of good recommendations (since I know you’re invested in Dick Grayson’s story very well) or can point me to others who’d be able to help, I’d appreciate it!
(I know comics are very convoluted with timelines and reboots and writers, but any recs would be great! Thanks and have a great day/night!)
Sorry this took me forever, but I've finally gathered the majority of Dick and Damian content. Please note that some stuff listed may be entire stories involving Dick and Damian, some may just have a few scenes between them, and some may even just have one scene that I felt highlighted their relationship in some way. I'm the type of person who's a freak about every Dick and Damian interaction though, so even the smallest of things can feel important to me personally lmao.
There are ofc more Dick and Damian interactions than this, I just didn't add them because I either felt they weren't necessary to share or that some of the writing was too bleh.
Also, I did have a guide to help me catch the dickbats era moments, but everything after dickbats came directly from my brain, so there's certainly a possibility I missed something, but I did try my best to remember the most important interactions.
Anywho, hope this is somewhat helpful!
Post-Crisis Era
Nightwing Vol. 2 #138 (Dick's first time meeting Damian)
Batman: Battle for the Cowl
Batman #687
Red Robin #1 (there are multiple other Dick and Damian interactions in Red Robin such as #13-15... check them out if you want. I'm adding #1 because Dick claims Damian as his responsibility)
Batman and Robin (from 2009) #1-26
Batman #688
Batman: Streets of Gotham
Batman Annual #27 continued in Detective Comics Annual #11
Batgirl (Vol. 3) #5-7
Batman #700 is a bit… difficult. It’s an anniversary issue that goes into the legacy of Batman and Robin. It jumps from past, present, and future. It includes a possible future of Damian becoming Batman. So. It’s not a necessary read, but I do like Dick and Damian’s scenes in it. Just tell your friend to read the “Today” section of the comic.
Blackest Night: Batman #1-3 (These are tie-in issues of a larger event called Blackest Night. Read Blackest Night and other tie-ins related to it if you need more context)
Batman #695-697
DCU Halloween Special 2010
Superman/Batman #77
Batman #703
Bruce Wayne: The Road Home - Batman and Robin
Batman: The Return
Batman #704-706
Teen Titans (Vol. 3) #89 and #92
Batman: Gates of Gotham
N52
Batman and Robin (Vol. 2) #10-12 for context + some Dick and Damian interactions. Moment between Dick and Damian at the end of #12 is the real reason I’m adding this.
Will need to read comics collected under the “Death of the Family” event to understand the full context. For Nightwing specifically, read Nightwing (Vol. 3) #15-16. Read #17 for the actual Dick and Damian interaction.
Will need to read Batman Incorporated (Vol. 2) for context. Dick and Damian interaction/Damian’s death in Batman Incorporated #8-9.
Nightwing (Vol. 3) #18 is Dick grieving Damian’s death.
Batman and Robin (Vol. 2) Annual #2
Robin: Son of Batman #1
Batman and Robin (Vol. 2) #33-37 for context, but the Dick moment I want to showcase is in #34. “You know how much Damian meant to me, Bruce…” (literally don’t read the rest unless you want to, that #34 moment is truly the only reason I’m adding this, and it's just Bruce and Dick talking about Damian btw, not an actual Dick and Damian moment)
Grayson #12 is an absolute must, it has one of the most iconic Dick and Damian interactions of all time. Will need to read the comics Forever Evil, Nightwing (Vol. 3) #30, and previous Grayson issues to understand the full context of the issue. Can just visit the issue for the Dick and Damian scene though obviously.
Rebirth and Beyond Era
Rebirth Nightwing #1 (note: this is a completely different comic from Nightwing (Vol. 4) #1-33, which is referred to as the Rebirth era of Nightwing). If you want to understand further context about this comic, you’ll have to read We Are Robin and the Robin War crossover event.
Nightwing (Vol. 4) #1, #4, #16-20 (very important Dick and Damian arc where Dick admits he wanted to adopt Damian), #29 (for context you’ll have to read the rest of Dark Nights Metal), #42-43 (each issue is a one-shot), Annual #2 (there’s enough info in this story to not need previous context), #110 (for context read the Beast World crossover event), #113 (they interact briefly, but I’m more so adding this because it shows Damian supporting Dick), #114.
Batman (Vol. 3) #16 (because Dick buys Damian a kid’s meal), #33-35
Detective Comics #1000 (collection of one-shots… go down to the story called “Batman’s Greatest Case” by Tom King. I suggest only looking at the very first Dick and Damian interaction from this story… the rest of the dialogue is… bad)
Robin (Vol. 3) #5 (further context can be found in Batman (Vol. 3) #77… and even further context for that storyline can be found starting in #75 as well as Detective Comics #1031-1033)
Batman: Urban Legends “The Murder Club” (story starts in #20 but Dick and Damian scenes are #21-23)
The Boy Wonder #1
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What are some of your favorite Dick Grayson moments?
Please and Thank You 😃
My favorites will always be Dick being the canonical center of the DC universe 😌
Dark Crisis Issue #1
The greatest hope and the leader of the ages
Nightwing (2016) Issue #49

The Brave and Bold (2007) Issue #15
"And no one doubts that you're the best one to strategize a counterattack."
"Next to Superman, Dick Grayson is the one guy alive that every other crimefighter trusts."

JLA/Titans Issue #2
"--Founders of the original Teen Titans--"
Titans (2003) Issue #23
"It's a natural thing when Nightwing shows up. None of us are conscious of it, really--but we all look to him for orders."

Nightwing (2016) Issue #9
"You vouching for someone is worth its weight in gold. It was true in my world, and it's true in this one. In fact, of everyone I've met here, you're the least changed from the version I knew. Always confident, always kind, always cool. Dick Grayson--the multiuniversal constant."
JLA (1997) Issue #73
"It was sad at first. We were discussing the work--this work...and I asked him if he ever felt pride." "He didn't....then he stopped for a second and said...'The only time I ever feel pride is when I look at Nightwing. Sometimes I think he's the only thing I ever did right.'"
Batman: Urban Legends Issue #22
"We have a shorthand I don't share with any of the others, save for maybe Alfred. He's always been the one keeping me centered. Grounded."
"Dick's the beating heart of this family we've created, whether he realizes it or not."


Titans (2003) Issue #6



JLA (1997) Issue #71

Nemesis - The Impostors Issue #3
Batman!Dick - he's so freaking cool!!!
He's so amazing and cool and extraordinary and over competent. He's what everyone looks up to. He's collectively placed on a pedal so high by every hero and anti-hero in that everyone wants to be him or be acknowledged by him. People have died in his footsteps. Even the Titans, his own friends, hero-worship, look up to him as the peak of excellence and goodness.
Justice League of America (2006) Issue #50
Roy
World's Finest: Teen Titans Issue #5
Titans (2016) Annual 1
The paragon of rightness and justice of the world - Superman - thinks dick is the best thing to ever come into existence.
Whenever you read a comic, there's always some character that goes "Nightwing!" when something happens and another responds "Dude, he's Nightwing. He'll be fine. He always is." That's the amount of confidence heroes have in him to always succeed and excel.
Like Kon said - when he shows up, people automatically fall in line. It's like second-nature to just follow him.
Dick has that Charisma, the leadership, and the strength to hold the entire community together and as a result the world. He's proven it, he's done it. Whenever the Justice League evaporates in any situation - because this isn't the first time the JL have died/gone missing - everyone turns to Nightwing for order and direction.
Truly, he's the greatest.
#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman#clark kent#superman#diana prince#wonder woman#oliver queen#green arrow#justice league#batfam#titans#titans as family#batfamily#cl confusedhummingbird asks#cl asks#thanks for the ask!
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do you have any dickbabs reading recommendations (especially if they're babs focused)? I read batgirl year one and some nightwing too, but I would love to delve deeper into their relationship
thank you sm in advance 🙏
They just don’t do slow burn in comics like Dickbabs anymore ♥️
If you’re coming right off batgirl year one (masterpiece. Redefined my life. Forever altered my brain) I definitely recommend you read Nightwing Year one as well, (starts at issue #101 of Nightwing (1996)
In this list I have included everything I can, but If I missed anything significant please feel free to let me know!
Pre-Crisis:

Detective Comics (1937): #359
The Batman Family (1975): #1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20
POST CRISIS:

Robin Year One (2000): #4
Batgirl Year One (2003)
Nightwing Year One - Nightwing (1996): #101-106
Nightwing (1995): #2
Nightwing (1996): #0.5, 7, 14, 16-18, 19, 20, 24, 25, 37, 38-87, 88, 89, 100, 104, 109, 117, 153 (this isn’t EVERY issue Babs is in but all the important ones)
Batman Chronicles (1996): #9
Some of the best and most beautiful dickbabs moments come from birds of prey, and they give a great look into Babs’ side of things too! I recommend reading Bop and Nightwing alongside each other (If you can!) And I alos recommend you read some Batman arcs like Cataclysm, No Man’s Land and Bruce Wayne, Murderer? They show Dick and Babs working together and with the batfam. Fun Fact and slight spoiler for the ending of No Man’s Land, The ending scene where Dick and Helena randomly kiss was supposed to be between Dick and Babs, but someone messed up, and Rucka kinda just thought Dick was a horndog so no one fixed it 💔 there is still some good Dickbabs moments within that arc tho
Birds Of Prey (1999): #8, 19, 20, 23-61, 71, 76, 86
Robin (1993): #71
Gotham Knights: #17, 18, 26, 30, 32, 34, 35, 36, 42, 43
Harley Quinn (2000): #10-12
DC One Million (1998): #1 , 3
DC Universe Holiday Bash (1997): #2
Batman: Black Mirror (they aren’t together in this but it’s still important reading for their relationship imo and a fascinating/thrilling Dick!bats story with lots of Oracle besides)
Nightwing Annual 2 (for the conclusion of the proposal from Nightwing #117)
Li’l Gotham (2013): #1, 7, 10, 17
Convergence Nightwing/Oracle #1-2 (for the wedding. This is how pre-boot ended as far as I’m concerned)
New 52 Reboot:

Nightwing (2011): #4, Annual 1
Batgirl (2011): #3, 18, 21, 30, Annual 3, 45
Grayson (2014): #2, #12
REBIRTH:

Nightwing (2016) #1, 2, 3, 15, 44, 45, 46, 47, Annual 1
Batgirl (2016): #7, 10, 14, 15, 16, 17, 25
Dark Nights: Death Metal - the Last Stories of the DC Universe: #1
Batman (2016): #55
Batgirl (2016): #43, 50
Nightwing (2016): #50, 72, 73, 74, 75, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 100, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123 (ongoing)
Batman (2016): #100, 104, 118, 126, 127, 128, 137, 141, 145, 146, 148, 149,
Batgirls (2021): #7, 8, 10, 12
The Flash (2016): #787
Future State: Nightwing (2021): #1, 2
Future State: The Next Batman (2021): #4
Superman: Son of Kal-El (2021): #13
Saved by the Belle Reve (2022): #1
Tales of the Titans (2023): #1
Titans: Beast World (2023): #2, 3, 4, 6
Titans (2023): #6, 7
Batman / Santa Clause: Silent Knight (2023): #1-4
How to lose a Guy Gardener in 10 days (2024): #1
Super-Pets Special: Bitedentity Crisis (2024): #1
ELSEWORLDS / BLACK LABEL

Thrillkiller (1997): #1-3
Young Justice (2011): #22, 23, 25
Earth 2: World’s End (2014): #1, 3, 4, 6, 9, 10
Earth 2 (2012): #29
Batman: White Knight (2017): #1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Batman: White Knight: Batman Day (2018): #1
Batman: Curse of the White Knight (2019): #4
Batman: Beyond The White Knight (2022): #1, 4, 6, 7, 8
The Batman & Scooby-Doo Mysteries (2021): #4
Dc vs. Vampires (2021): #1, #2, #3, 4, 8, 12
Batman: The Long Halloween - The Last Halloween (2024): #1
Batman: Dark Age (2024): #4, 5, 6
The Boy Wonder (2024): #1
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The Rat is Wonder Woman
So, I've been on a Wonder Woman binge out of curiosity for the character and there's so much I wanna say about her to you all it's hitting me like divine madness but there's a really, really incredible page that won't leave me alone as I've continued reading.
This spread comes from Wonder Woman (2023) issue #9 and the context around it is that Diana has been locked in solitary confinement by the main villain. In order to cope, we see her imagining herself in countless different situations, speaking and venting and passing the time with an imaginary version of Steve Trevor, the first and most important man she ever met in her life, all while her tenuous grasp on her sanity slips more and more with the isolation.
She can speak to animals and she tried to find companionship with the rat who crawled about in her cell, but it wouldn't speak to her. For whatever reason, it simply refused. Eventually, they ceased to bring her meals and starved her so she begged the rat to run. She warned it, again and again, she wouldn't be strong enough and she'd eat it if it didn't run away.
It didn't listen.
This page just haunts me, I think perhaps forever. Diana Prince is Wonder Woman, she's basically the CEO of strong independent womanhood. She has no kryptonite, Batman's contingency plan to stop Wonder Woman if she ever goes rogue is "Throw Superman at her and pray it's enough." And then this, this page so elegantly shows this... sensitivity in her that genuinely makes her SUCH a strong character to me and grounds her in a way nothing else ever has, in all the attempts to show her as a flawed and deeply emotional person that I've seen.
Extended solitary confinement is considered one of the worst kinds of torture imaginable and for very good reason. We humans are a social species and this entire issue is a testament to what truly brutal torture it is to be isolated and locked away in a dark box forever. Even a demigod would feel so ruined by it that a rat would pity and comfort and hold them.
Other details that feel so beautiful besides the bioluminescent beach (I must see one in real life before I die, I must, I must) are the clothes, to me. In this panel, she is so vulnerable in her speech and emotions, she is so laid bare, and yet she is dressed in casual comfy vacation clothes out on a nice beach where one would typically feel wonder and relief and not be calmly venting about how they feel lower than gutter scum.
When she ate "her rat" this is how she processed it. With a long laugh of fragile, teetering madness, vulnerably recounting the actions that happened in the cell where the readers can't see, with her face slowly twisting through to guilt and then lastly, faint horror at what she felt. Horror that she could possibly enjoy such a sadistic thing, this cruel pettiness that that rat would ignore her. She feels so broken down inside and this, this is such a beautiful moment where she herself is forced into the same emotional circumstances of countless criminals and "villains." Becoming a person so pushed to the edge of desperation and suffering deep in lonely darkness, that WHEN they turn to depravity, not if, they would find they even came to enjoy the act, instead of simply doing it with reluctant revulsion, because anything feels better than nothing.
She is, deep in her heart, a redeemer. She will see the best in everyone she saves. Everyone she stops. She will beckon even the worst foes back to the light and offer hand to the suffering. Even the mad War god Ares or accursed and abused cannibal demigod Cheetah. Not only all that, she is the CEO, progenitor of and greatest champion of the modern Strong Independent Woman archetype. You're not better than Wonder Woman. If you starved and were ignored as you suffered alone in the dark, you would eat your rat too.
And then, she must live with that. But it's easier to live with something if you mustn't face the consequences. If the only consequences are that nothing got better and nothing got worse. Quietly ready to tuck that feeling away forever where it shan't ever be examined or forgiven. Meeting the next rat, feeling relief when it spoke, then having her heart shatter like glass when she realized she'd eaten this rat's mate. I know how raw that feeling is. You will never forget that feeling. The fleeting moment of thinking she could lie only further humanizing her before she broke down and admitted what she'd done. Yearning to repent, to be punished, to feel anything at all in this darkness with the same fervor you feel when you're drowning and claw for air.
"Why?" "I pity you." "I will comfort you."
The rat is Wonder Woman.
In this arc, where Diana is hunted and hated by the US government for being a foreign citizen, an Amazon of Themyscira, a paradise she was considered insane for wanting to leave, seen as lower than any man of America, the rotten place she's chosen to love, she is scorned the same way this rat is. The rat knows they are the same. The rat can still leave and go see her loved ones, however. The rat is still free. And so, the rat forgives Diana for what she's done while she's suffered. She comforts her. She comforts the one who is hurting so badly, that they are comforted even by something so hated as a dirty sewer rat. I think this single moment speaks more closely to Diana's character than decades of authors attempting to get it right when trying to show how she remains kind even after the world breaks her with its cruelty. It shows that even at the bottom of the world there is kindness and love and sisterhood and hope.
This post is SO long already so I'll probably tie it off here but please understand, I am literally never going to stop thinking about this damn rat and how beautifully written this entire series has been. And just so you all know, yes, the rat is okay <3
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THE COMPLETE GREEN ARROW BY DENNIS O'NEIL - READING GUIDE
On The Order:
Reading this chronologically woudn't really work. He retconned his own work(for the better). However, there are notes here that would allow you to easily organize things chronologically.
There are some stories here that don't really have Green Arrow that much. You will know which ones as there will be notes on them pointing that out.
The Retconned Story and The Retcon Story:
To read chronologically without facing contradictions, just skip JLA #75 and DC Super-Stars #17, And instead read Peacemakers and The Arrow and the Bat before JLA #66.
PRE-CRISIS
DENNIS O'NEIL'S RUN ON JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA






This is the run in which everything starts. Anarchist Green Arrow, Black Canary in the League, GA and BC relationship...
He doesn't show up in 3 issues of the run(70, 73-74).
This run is also very important for Black Canary. And their relationship. This is where everything starts. Black Canary on the JLA, anarchist Green Arrow. BC and GA's relationship...
Justice League of America #66, 68-75, 77-83
GA doesn't show up in 3 issues: #70, 73-74
The latter part of this run was released during the beginning of GL/GA
PRE-CRISIS ORDER:
The order here is the DCUGuide order.
JLA #66, 68-75, 77-80
Green Lantern #76-77
JLA #81
Green Lantern #78-79
JLA #82-83
Green Lantern #80-83
Superman #236(b)
Here my bias showing. It's a short story about Krypton. GA and BC are listening to Superman telling this story. I really like this one. It's worth checking out. You get cool moments for GA and BC in the first and last page of this.
Green Lantern #84-86, 89
The Flash #217-219(b stories)
Green Lantern #90-99
DC Super-Stars #17(a)
Origin story in a flashback. The non-flashback part is following up on JLA #75
Green Lantern #102-106, 108-115
World's Finest Comics #256(b)
Team-up with Black Lighting, part of O'Neil's run on BL
Green Lantern #116-122
DC Comics Presents #20
POST-CRISIS



FROM THE QUESTION BY DENNIS O'NEIL
These stories are from O'Neil's Question run.
The Question #17-18
FABLES



Detective Comics Annual #1
Green Arrow Annual #1
The Question Annual #1
LOSING/SAVING FACE
The Question Annual #2
Green Arrow Annual #2
Green Arrow Annual #3
Epilogue of The Question's 1986 series.
THE RING, THE ARROW AND THE BAT
All stories from now on are team-ups with either Batman or Green Lantern.
Batman/Green Arrow: The Poison Tomorrow
Justice League Task Force #5-6
Part of Knightquest: The Search
Not that much Green Arrow
PEACEMAKERS



Legends of the DC Universe #7-9
This is a tale of how GA came to be the character O'Neil made him be. It retcons JLA #75
O'Neil characterize this as a Year One-type story
It works with the post-zero hour continuity. Just doesn't match certain elements of O'Neil's JLA run
It leads to GL/GA
It matches fine with GL/GA
Due to Ollie's characterization, this would have happened before JLA #66
THE ARROW AND THE BAT
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #127-131
Sequel of Peacemakers
It's set before the last scene of Peacemakers.
DC Retroactive: Green Lantern - The '70s
This one ties Peacemakers and The Longbow Hunters.
It would fit right after the next story.
TIME ALONE
Green Lantern 80th Anniversary Super Spectacular(d)
Last published O'Neil work.
I don't know where this would fit. I would guess before Green Lantern #172. For Green Arrow, that would be after DC Comics Presents #20
#DC#Green Arrow#DC Comics#Reading order#Reading Guide#Ollie#Oliver Queen#Dennis O'Neil#Green Lantern#Copper Age#Neal Adams#Plastic Age
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Kon and Bart's long-standing and evolving friendship from 1994-2020 spanning multiple runs. Together they experience many joys, and tragic losses and challenges - but no matter what they find each other again. Here's a proposed reading list for fans of the duo!
Zero Hour #2
This is the very first time they see each other and are on the same page with each other. They do not interact in any meaningful way, but this is their first passing awareness that the other exists.
Superboy and the Ravers #7
Their first official meeting and team up where they interact, and race each other.
JLA: World Without Grown-Ups
They team up alongside Tim as they navigate the magically altered world of Bedlam. Many key moments include how they work together and their endless banter. This is also their inspiration for starting Young Justice.
Young Justice (1998)
Almost every single issue they are present together will have some GREAT chemistry and moments showing their friendship, but the following stick out for the listed reasons. Issue #1 - The first issue, Kon protects Bart from being shot along with lots of banter that sets the tone between them for the rest of the series. Issue #7 - Bart and Kon banter during their Camping trip, highlights include Kon complimenting Bart’s hair and enthusiastically encouraging him for chasing off hunters with Secret. Issue #9 - Bart and Kon play chess together, showing that when there are downtimes in Young Justice they play games with each other. Issue #22 - Bart tries to help Kon get his powers back with comical results. (Note: this may be THAD but because publication time is not linear to comic in-world time, this is unconfirmed and it must be assumed that this is Bart.) Issue #31 - Bart tries desperately to get Kon to hang out with him, Kon is too busy watching TV. Issue #33 - Kon reaches out to Bart to have a hypothetical conversation but sadly did not compensate for Bart’s autism taking him literally. Issue #45 - Bart and Kon talk about comics and make sandwiches together. Issue #53 - Bart and Kon play Random Trivia, a game exclusive to them.
Young Justice: No Man’s Land
Lots of banter and chemistry as they convince Tim to go to Gotham against Batman’s orders. Kon gives Bart his jacket for safekeeping.
Young Justice #1000000
It’s the 853rd century and although Young Justice is no more, a new version of Impulse and Superboy are just as close as their original selves. Impulse (1995)
Issue #47 - Bart seeks Kon out to ask him about the worrying behavior Superman is displaying. Issue #77 - Bart’s clone is killed on Apokolips in front of Kon - this is a catalyst to Kon’s many issues of depression. Issue #78 - Bart says goodbye to Kon when he quits Young Justice due to PTSD, Kon pets his head.
Superboy (1994)
Issue #83 - Bart tries to help Kon get his swagger back, even to the point of obtaining the Backstreet Boys chemical breakdowns bc he cannot see Kon like this.
Issue #90 - Kon has a soft moment with Cherub who he is attracted to, it is revealed that Cherub is a clone of BOTH Tana and Bart. Issue #91 - The aftermath of Bart’s clone dying on Apokolips pt.1 - Kon reveals he feels it’s all his fault and has resigned that while Bart is in a coma, he is going to die.
Issue #92 - The aftermath of Bart’s clone dying on Apokolips pt.2 - Once back home on the Kent farm Kon, obsesses over Bart’s “death” and current coma to the point of exhaustion and sleeps for 20 hours. Highlights include Bart implying he is wearing a Playboy Bunny outfit, and that Kon has subconscious bi-sexual feelings towards Bart. Issue #99 - Bart as Kid Flash risks death to save a de-powered Kon during the World Without Young Justice arc.
Teen Titans (2003)
Same as with Young Justice, there are a lot of interactions that show they are friends and have a long-standing dynamic even though Geoff re-worked both of their characters into entirely new people. The following are moments when they are alone and show blatant friendship. Issue #25 - Bart tries to get through to Kon during his possession, and refuses to fight him. Issue #82 - Kon protects Bart from Holocaust’s blast, then Bart beats the hell out of Holocaust for barely tapping Kon. Issue #83 - Kon seeks Bart out and talks about his relationship with Cassie. Issue #88 - A quiet moment between Bart and Kon as Bart reveals he is forgetting the future they were resurrected in. Issue #90 - Bart and Kon play pingpong, once again showing that they like to play games together.
Infinite Crisis
Issue #7 - Bart goes ballistic on Superboy Prime after he kills Kon.
Countdown #43
Bart’s funeral and he speaks directly to Kon, sadly Kon never got to hear it because he was dead at the time as well. Final Crisis Legion of Three Worlds
Issues #4-#5 - Bart and Kon reunite and are resurrected together after dying.
Superboy (2011)
Issue #3 - Kon reaches out to Bart to propose a charity Race to benefit the Smallville community. Bart agrees. Issue #5 - Bart and Kon race and take time to catch up and talk.
Kid Flash Lost
Issue #1 - Bart talks about Kon and their movie nights.
Young Justice (2019)
Bart and Kon reunite in Young Justice after being in comic limbo since 2011.
Issue #1 - Bart and Kon are reunited after the reboot. Issue #2 - Bart and Kon’s continuing reunion. Issue #14 - Bart rallies Young Justice and many other heroes together to save Kon from Dr. Glory. Issue #15 - Bart reveals what happened to Kon and why he did not reboot. Issue #16 - Bart and Kon have a revealing conversation about the time they lost and Bart reveals how he ‘broke time’ to try and find Kon. Issue #17 - Bart films Kon beating Lex Luthor with Tim’s phone bc he knew Kon would want to see it, Kon hugs Bart.
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Some cool Easter eggs I caught watching My Adventures with Superman that I want to show to people so they can be in on it with comic book readers
My episode 2 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My episode 3 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My episode 4 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My episode 5 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My Episode 6 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My Episode 7 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here and here
My Episode 8 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My Episode 9 easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My Episode 10 easter eggs and refences in My Adventures with Superman post is here
My Easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman comic issue 1 post is here
My Easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman comic issue 2 post is here
My Easter eggs and references for My Adventures with Superman comic issue 3 post is here
(SPOILERS if you haven't seen the show yet):

Lois Lane has a cut out clip of Vicki Vale. Vicki Vale is a journalist in Gotham City. Her first appearance was in Batman #49 (1948) as seen in the panel here (W: Bill Finger, A: Lew Sayre and Bob Kane, I: Charles Paris, L: Ira Schnapp).

Looks like Jimmy is a fan of Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask. Good video game taste.

Jimmy mentions a psychic starfish and the one starfish in the DC universe who is psychic is Starro the Conqueror, who's first appearance is in Brave and the Bold 28 (1960) (the cover art here is done by Mike Sekowsky, Murphy Anderson, and Ira Schnapp) and has the power to mind control people.

Lois, after barging into Perry White's office about a story, mentions Mt. Simonson. This is a neat name drop to Superman: The Man of Steel writer Louise Simonson, one of the nicest comic book writers you'll ever meet. She helped co-create John Henry Irons a.k.a Steel with artist of the Superman: The Man of Steel comic, Jon Bogdanove (really hope we get to see Irons in this show too).

Jon Bogdanove also gets a name drop here as does...

Dan Jurgen, comic book writer and artist on the Superman comic in the 90s (also one of my favorite Superman artists).
Now who are these kids that call themselves the Newskid Legion? Well, they are a VERY deep DC cut and reference to the Newsboy Legion back in the 1940s. The group was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, LEGENDARY comic book creators.

The page here is from Who's Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe #16 (1986) with the art by Jack Kirby and Karl Kesel. Most of the Newskid Legion is named after the Newsboy Legion members
Gabby and Big Words here share names with their Newsboy Legion counterparts as does Flip Johnson...

who shares names with Walter "Flip" Johnson here on the cover of Superman's Pal Jimmy Olson #137 (1971) which was done by Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, and Gaspar Saladino.
Patty, the cartoonist of the Newskid Legion homages this panel from Adventures of Superman #500 (1993) (W: Karl Kesel, P: Tom Grummet, I: Doug Hazelwood, C: Glenn Whitmore, L: Albert DeGuzman), the first appearance of Superboy, Conner Kent/ Kon-El.

But who is the one below that drawing? We'll his name is in Big Word's word puzzle, in the show. It's Jim Harper, the Guardian.

Jim Harper becomes the Newsboy Legion's legal guardian despite their causing trouble for him. The page here is from Star Spangled Comics #7, the Newsboy Legion and the Guardian's first appearance, by Joe Simon, Jack Kirby, and Whitney Ellsworth. You might've seen the Guardian on the recent Young Justice cartoon.
When Lois, Clark, and Jimmy go investigate about the smuggled robots in Metropolis, Jimmy makes a reference to super intelligent gorillas in France. This is a subtle hint at Monsieur Mallah, the Doom Patrol villain who will be in the show along with his partner, the Brain. Both made their first appearance in Doom Patrol #86 (1964) .

The cover art here is done by Arnold Drake, Bob Brown, and Ira Schnapp.

Later in the episode we see Clark receive his powers and he is surrounded with electricity, giving off Superman Blue vibes when in the comics, Superman gained electricity powers and became Electric Blue Superman who's first appearance was in Superman #123 (1997) (cover art by Dan Jurgens, Joe Rubenstein, Patrick Martin, and Todd Klein.
Link to Episode 2 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 3 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 4 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 5 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 6 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 7 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here and here
Link to Episode 8 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 9 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
Link to Episode 10 of My Adventures with Superman Easter Eggs and references is here
My Easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman comic issue 1 post is here
My Easter eggs and references in My Adventures with Superman comic issue 2 post is here
My Easter eggs and references for My Adventures with Superman comic issue 3 post is here
#My Adventures with Superman#Superman#Clark Kent#Lois Lane#Jimmy Olson#Vicki Vale#Starro#Starro the Conqueror#Louise Simonson#Jon Bogdanove#Dan Jurgens#Newskid Legion#Newsboy Legion#Flip Johnson#The Guardian#Jim Harper#Doom Patrol#Monsieur Mallah#The Brain#Electric Blue Superman#Superman Blue#DC#DC Comics#DC Comics Easter Eggs#MAwS#MAwS easter eggs#Holy shit this took a long while!#Cartoons#Adult Swim#GO WATCH MY ADVENTURES WITH SUPERMAN!!!
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Today in: is it the writers being unaware or the characters being insane?

(Superman/Batman 2003 #75) October 2010
Sometimes I wonder if the conversation between Tim and Conner ever happened in Paris because what in the world is going on with this comic?
If you're curious to know what I'm talking about, Conner dies for a little while (he gets better), and during that time Conner's girlfriend, Cassie (aka Wondergirl), and best friend, Tim (aka Robin), just fling themselves into the deep end. Cassie joins a cult that is worshipping Conner, and Conner's death is the straw that breaks the camel's back that is Tim's sanity (having lost: his dad, his step-mother, and his girlfriend) so he tries to clone Conner 100 times and they all end in failure (as well as trying to get some Lazarus Pit water to revive Conner, Steph, and Jack). Cassie discovers this, and they kiss and then for a few months try to convince the other Titans that they are a real couple and then Cassie breaks it off with Tim when she realizes they're both lying after their other best friend Bart (aka Kid Flash) dies.
Anyway, Conner comes back to life, but Bruce dies and that sends Tim further spiraling and off on the Bruce is lost in the timestream quest everyone knows (Tim is trying to find proof of it so the JLA can find Bruce lost in time, btw, not trying to go get Bruce himself). Conner is trying to find Lex Luthor and can't, so he goes to his detective best buddy (who is in Paris) for some help. Conner helps Tim with something, and then Tim agrees to help Conner, and they talk about how shit life is at this time.




(Adventure Comics 2009 #3) December 2009
But then when Tim is dying of spleen stabbing wounds later on, he says this:
(Red Robin 2009 #5) December 2009
(Red Robin 2009 #9) April 2010
And then after this scene, when Tim comes back to Gotham and is working alongside Dick as Batman could the first image I had take place.
When Tim initially took the Red Robin mantle and Dick was Batman, they were not on good terms. This was the only time they talked before Tim was in Paris while Tim was Red Robin. This was not a time where Tim was going to be emotionally vulnerable with Dick.
(Red Robin 2009 #4) November 2009
From Conner's side, for that Batman/Superman issue, he seems to just be having more difficulty processing that Tim and Cassie were a thing than he's shown either of them, which is fair. He knows his death hit them both really hard, and he probably isn't mad at either of them, but that's probably not something you just get over.
But why is Tim acting like he still has to confess to Conner what happened? Did that whole conversation just evaporate into the ether of his mental health spiral like acknowledging that Conner was alive again? Or did the writers not know/just want drama?
#dc comics#detective comics comics#tw: blood#cw: blood#tim drake#robin#red robin#conner kent#kon-el#superboy#Tim Drake's mental health issues
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Ace Morgan, June Robbins, Prof Haley, Red Ryan, and Rocky Davis run day-to-day operations for the massive Watchtower in orbit above Earth. Now, they must team with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and the rest of the Justice League to seal the rifts that threaten the galaxy. But a mysterious foe from the Challengers' past lurks in the shadows, and its connection to the Godshock will put the DCU on borrowed time!
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Jon Kent (pretty much) Complete Reading Order
Compiled first for my personal use and tidied up for @jonkentweek ! Goes up to June 2024 and includes every appearance of this character that I could find. I used ComicVine's archive to track these down, which is both fallible and constantly being updated, so there might be some mistakes. Also, I did my best to highlight the occasions where Jon was a significant character in a story and to skip the ones that were just a non-speaking, one-panel cameo, but those were personal judgements and your mileage might vary.
Color key (and apologies for the eye strain): Red are issues in which Jon is a central character, not just a cameo, Blue are crossover events, Orange are stories that take place in alternate universes/are non canonical
Optional stuff you can read for historical context:
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? (1997) a classic possible future story, which is, to my knowledge, the 1st time a character named Jon who is Superman’s kid appears
Son of Superman (1999) a self-contained, now AU, story about a teen Jon Kent, very classic 90s young adult comic with all the tropes that come with that, but enjoyable as the proto-iteration of Jon as an idea
Canon appearances start here
The Final Days of Superman crossover event: Superman (2011) 51-52, Batman/Superman (2013) 31-32, Action Comics (2011) 51-52, Superman/Wonder Woman (2013) 28-29 (This is the origin story of the Clark, Lois and Jon that the comics follow in Rebirth. Largely ignored by writers, as it was written to patch up New52 weirdness, but there are occasional references that might be confusing if you skip it completely.)
Convergence (2015) 5, 8
Superman: Lois and Clark (2015) 1-8 (Establishes Jon and his family in the DCU)
Superman (2016) 1-11, 13, 17-28, 30, 32-36, 38, 40-45, Special 1
Action Comics (2016) 957-972, 974-978, 980-983, 985, 987, 989-1000, 1002, 1005, 1016, 1022-1035, 1042, 1045-1048, 1050-1057, 1059-1060, Special 1, Annual 2023
Justice League (2016) 3-6, 15, 18-19, 22, 28
Trinity (2016) 1-6, 16
Super Sons (2017) 1-16
Dark Nights: Metal (2017) 3, 6
The Man of Steel (2018) 1-6 (central from issue 4 onwards)
Superman (2018) 1, 4-12, 14-16, 20, 29-32
Adventures of the Super Sons (2018) 1-12
Justice League (2018) 9, 23-25, 34, 52, 75, Annual 2022
Super Sons/Dynomutt Special (2018)
Super Sons: The Polarshield Project (AU trilogy of graphic novels)
Supergirl (2016) 8, 30-33
DCeased (2019) 1-6 (what if DC but zombies?)
Super Sons: The Foxglove Mission
Lois Lane (2019) 3-4, 6
Legion of Super-Heroes: Millennium 2
Legion of Super-Heroes (2019) 1-12
Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child
Green Lantern: Blackstars 2-3
The Terrifics (2018) 25
Teen Titans (2016) 15, 43, 45-46
DCeased: Hope at World’s End (2020) 1, 4-5, 9-15
Robin 80th Anniversary 100-Page Super Spectacular (in the short Super Sons story)
DCeased: Dead Planet (2020) 1-7
Super Sons: Escape to Landis
Batman/Superman (2019) Annual 1
Challenge of the Super Sons (2020) 1-14
Dark Knights: Death Metal The Last Stories of the DC Universe (2020) (in the Superman short story)
Dark Knights: Death Metal The Secret Origin (2021)
Dark Knights: Death Metal The Last 52 War of the Multiverses (2021) (in the Superman parts of the story)
DC Nation Presents Future State (2020) (intro, information and behind-the-scenes for Future State)
Future State: Superman of Metropolis (2021) 1-2 (Future State is another possible future, meaning that it’s not necessarily canon, but it takes place in the future of the main canon, not in a complete AU, like say, Dark Knights of Steel. Technically not necessary to understand main universe stories, but a few popular characters and characterizations were brought over to the main universe.)
Future State: Justice League (2021) 1-2
Future State: Superman/Wonder Woman (2021) 1-2
Future State: Kara Zor-el, Superwoman (2021) 1
Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes (2021) 2
Infinite Frontier (2021) 0 (establishes the main universe status quo from this point on, feat. a synopsis of Jon’s life up to here)
Challenge of the Super Sons (2021) 1-7
Superman: Son of Kal-el (2021) 1-18, Annual 1
Shazam! (2021) 1
Superman Red and Blue (2021) 6 (in the short story The Special, but this mini series in general is cute and I recommend it)
Justice League vs. The Legion of Super-Heroes (2022) 1-6
Superman & Robin Special (2022) 1
DC’s Round Robin (2021) 2 (in the short story Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow)
Nightwing (2016) 89, 91-92, 101-104, 110, 112-113
Earth-Prime (2022) 2 (story based on the CW show Superman and Lois)
DC Pride (2022) (in the short story Super Pride)
Justice League: Road to Dark Crisis (2022) (in the short story Team Up)
Dark Crisis (2022) 1-7
Dark Crisis: Young Justice (2022) 1
Dark Crisis: Worlds Without A Justice League: Superman (2022) 1
DCeased: War of the Undead Gods (2022) 1, 4-5, 7-8
DC’s Terrors Through Time (2022) (in the short story Trick or Treat)
Dark Crisis: The Deadly Green (2022) 1
The Death of Superman 30th Anniversary Special (2023) (in The Life of Superman short story)
Dark Crisis: The Dark Army (2023)
Superman: Kal-El Returns Special (2023) (in the short story Distractions)
Lazarus Planet: Assault on Krypton (2023) (in the short story Electric)
Batman (2016) 131-132 (in the Tim Drake Robin chapters)
Superman (2023) 2-3, 9
Lazarus Planet: Omega (2023)
Power Girl Special (2023)
Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent (2023) 1-6
Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow (2023) 1 (edited version of the story in Round Robin)
DC Pride (2023) (in the short story My Best Bet)
Titans: Beast World (2024) 3-4, 6
Titans: Beast World Tour: Metropolis (2024)
Trinity Special (2024) (taken from the backups of Wonder Woman 2023 plus some extra)
#*drags myself across the finish line* its done#hope it comes in handy ☺#feel free to correct me if something is wrong#dc comics#superman#superboy#jon kent#jonathan kent#superfam#super sons#reading order#reading list#reading guide#long post
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Since I managed to find a copy of it cheap, I read All-Star Batman and Robin despite my misgivings about Frank Miller’s more recent works.
Surprisingly, it’s much better than I had expected. There a good story buried beneath some… extreme characterizations.
Comic
Title: All-Star Batman and Robin Vol 1
Author: Frank Miller
Artist: Jim Lee
Year: 2005-2008
Overall Opinion
Much, much better than I had expected after The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Miller was clearly in a better place by the time he wrote this – it’s coherent, there are consistent themes, and Miller clearly had an end goal he was working to.
That said, it’s reputation is earned. Batman is… erratic throughout it and other characters are similarly ‘off’. While I believe some of this is intentional on Miller’s part, it’s no less disorienting to read. And some of the off putting moments were definitely in earnest by Miller.
Ultimately, I’m disappointed the run ended early; I’d have like to have seen how Miller concluded the story. I think the characters would have been more in line with what readers expect by the end.
I can’t recommend this as good Batman and Robin story, but it’s worth a read to understand the references to it. It’s not nearly as bad as people say.
Art
The art is fantastic throughout, as I would expect of Jim Lee. There are some excellent full page panels.
The stand out is the multi-page folded spread of the bat cave in issue in issue 4. It conveys the vastness of Batman’s operation very well.
General
-Apparently, there are 10 issues but only 9 are included in the trade.
An interesting choice, as issue 9 is a reasonable place to end the trade. Issue 10 is supposedly a cliffhanger.
-One thing I appreciate about Miller is that his stories always have prominent women. This one is no exception – Vicki Vale, Black Canary, Wonder Woman, and Barbara Gordon all have roles.
-The sexualization of the women is excessive. Vicki’s introduction scene is her walking around in her underwear with a panel solely consisting of her butt. That was not necessary.
Black Canary’s… everything is sexualized, but I’m more willing to give her a pass as that’s apparently her normal costume and being sexualized is her breaking point.
-The digressions with Black Canary and Batgirl seem out of place, but I assume Miller would have woven them into the main narrative if he had been able to finish the run.
Miller was clearly building to a bat family consisting of Batman, Robin, Black Canary, Batgirl, and Alfred. An end to the loneliness Dick notices early in the story.
-A theme is the contrast between how the powerful view Batman vs the common man.
Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern – they’re wary of Batman because he breaks the rules and does what he feels is right. He draws negative attention and may bring the authorities down on them.
However, he inspires the human Black Canary and Bagirl for those very same reasons. He’s a regular person that’s taken a stand, status quo be damned.
-The timeline is vague. I’d guess it’d taken place over two to three days. However, near the end Bruce says Dick’s been with him for weeks.
Plot
-The story starts on a sour note for me, with Vicki walking around in her underwear. The panels emphasize her body. That’s usually a bad sign for how a story will go.
-Dick’s parents are shot. Quite a different take – normally their equipment is sabotaged so they fall.
-Bruce just bails on his date with Vicki to become Batman and pursue the murderer. I’d expect Vicki to be pissed, but nothing comes of this.
-Vicki is very protective of Dick and insists on pursuing the cops to see what they do with him.
I’m impressed with how proactive and insistent she is.
-I disagree with Miller that Dick’s parents would have told him that cops are nice.
From what I understand, cops are normally distrustful of transients like circus people; Dick’s parents most likely would have at least warned him to be wary of them.
-It’s not clear how Vicki was hurt. Did Batman hit her and Alfred’s car when he drove in?
-From the start, Batman doesn’t treat Dick like a child but a new recruit. That’s their main source of tension – Dick is a child but Batman keeps expecting him to behave like an adult.
Batman’s first words to Dick: “On your feet, soldier. You’ve just been drafted. Into a war.”
-And here is one Batman’s most iconic lines, in response to Dick asking why he keeps giving Dick orders after kidnapping him: “What, are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I’m the goddamn Batman.”
Not surprising people normally leave out the first few sentences of that meme.
-Bruce’s internal dialogue is telling. His goal is to prevent Dick from grieving, because if Dick grieves he can’t become what Batman needs him to be – a continual walking wound, like Bruce.
Batman: “If I don’t keep the PRESSURE up, he’ll find time GRIEVE. I can’t let him GRIEVE. GRIEF is the ENEMY. There’s no TIME for GRIEF. There’s no ROOM for GRIEF. GRIEF turns into ACCEPTANCE. FORGIVENESS. Grief forgives what can NEVER be forgiven. NEVER.”
-Dick is completely unimpressed by Batman throughout his entire kidnapping. He notes Batman is faking his voice, lonely, and gets choked up at times when he talks.
-There is no way that Dick’s photo would already be on a milk carton.
-It strains credibility that Bruce already had his eye on Dick to recruit him; would he really be looking at a 12-year-old as a potential ally?
At least that explains why he was at the circus that night.
-This is where Bruce’s behavior gets bizarre. Why does he just leave Dick in the bat cave by himself? Why does he expect him to eat rats? How is he expecting this to train Dick or make him an ally?
At least Alfred’s reasonable enough and provides him with food.
-It’s interesting to see a take on the Justice League where Batman isn’t one of the founders.
They’re actually very critical of him, with good reason. He’s a cape that doesn’t give a damn about pr; they’re correct that will reflect poorly on all of them.
-Batman just cannot stop being shitty to Dick. First he tells Dick to get a mask and a costume while providing no guidance on how to do so, then he immediately insults the costume Dick puts together.
-Batman’s right that the capes are criminals. No one gave them the authority to fight crime; they took that upon themselves.
At best they’re vigilantes, and in most places those are illegal. They’re generally tolerated because of the good they do, but ‘tolerated’ is not the same as ‘legal’.
-Bruce admits at the end that he fucked up in how he’s trained and handled Dick so far. He’s rushed it.
At the very end, he takes Dick to his parents graves to grieve – an admission that his policy at the start to prevent Dick from grieving was wrong.
Good note to end on, and nicely brings the story full circle.
Batman: “We mourn lives lost. Including our own.”
Characters
-Alfred is repeatedly referred to by the narration as Bruce Wayne’s personal aide. Another clever way to update him to more modern times.
He does refer to himself as Bruce’s butler. Perhaps he was the Wayne’s butler originally but is Bruce’s personal aide in the present?
-Alfred’s language for Bruce is weird. Poetic, but poetry for the sake of poetry – these lines don’t read as authentically Alfred to me.
Alfred: “How many a day – how many hundreds, THOUSANDS, a time – day or night, did my black-eyed angel come home from his frolics in the WOOD – BLOOD streaming his smiling, fearless face?”
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“And now my DEMON – my black-eyed, brilliant, willful ANGEL – has grown to MANHOOD.”
-Batman’s weird throughout this story, but it’s self-aware of it.
Dick observes it, Alfred and Black Canary call him out on it, and the Justice League is after him to tone it down before he gets them all in trouble.
Bruce’s own internal dialogue frequently questions his own actions and acknowledges he doesn’t have his shit together.
So while Bruce gets a lot of shit for his actions in this story, I don’t think it’s fair to say that Miller was unaware – Miller might disagree with the extent, but Bruce’s shittiness is intentional.
-That said, Batman’s also extremely violent throughout the entire comic and that’s praised.
He’s not just pragmatic, he’s sadistic – he says not to call an ambulance because he wants them to suffer. At one point he sets people on fire.
Pretty sure this is Miller projecting his anger about his various muggings.
-Wonder Woman’s behavior is… extreme. I’m not familiar with her character, but would she really call anyone a ‘sperm bank’?
-The behavior of Superman, Green Lantern, and Plastic Man are all clearly earlier versions of who they will be later on in The Dark Knight Strikes Again.
I’m skeptical of Wonder Woman, but I suppose she could have had a change of heart over the decades.
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The long overdue, extremely lengthy Heroes in Crisis Review. Put on your reading glasses because this is long. I just want to give a little summary, The entire comic is the definition of disrespecting existing characters as well as real people and their problems. I seen better writing from 13 year old wattpad kids who are just getting started on their writing journey. It's hard for me to believe professional writers wrote this. Now onto the detailed review.
Brain rot enjoyment meter (how much I enjoyed it without actually analyzing it) : 7/10
Actual rating: 3/10
I'll go on with the analysis part by part.
first of all characters: Half of them are out of character and the other half are random characters that dc hasn't used in over a decade, we don't care about. Only to kill them off and it has no impact whatsoever as we don't know who these people are plus bunch of one panel cameos of characters for absolute no reason and adds absolutely nothing to the actual plot or story. For example, Red Devil, Tattooed man, Hotspot (i later recognized him from teen titans). I am pretty young person so I absolutely did not know half the characters. And they didn't introduce or reintroduce in this case any of these characters. We barely know what their issues are or why they are at sanctuary.
All characters are out of character or completely dumbed down. Wally's entire character is massacred and even by the end I barely understood what was up with him. I'll expand on this later.
Batgirl, Barbara was just frustrating and felt really empty. Like she was just there and really didn't seem to add anything to the story. At least as a character she doesn't. She felt more like a plot device.
Batman was just ??? but he wasn't that bad but suffers from same thing as Babs. Felt like he was just there as a plot device and character wise he added nothing whatsoever. We don't even see him investigating properly.
superman was downright foul And made no sense. Ok so you're working on the investigation with Diana and Bruce, so what's with the tension and secrecy??? Like Clark is that really you?
and louis lane was just evil, will be explained later.
Hal Jordan made one of the one panel appearances and that one panel was enough to show that the writer knew absolutely nothing about him. I been reading old GL comics and that one panel was just... wow.
the bat kids made cameos and they just copy pasted dialogue for them with little differences.
The comic is only 9 issues and is short so it just doesn't really show off a lot of personality from characters that aren't Harley or booster. And even then these two were just... not very satisfactory.
Second of all, plot: Made absolutely no sense whatsoever, I read the ending twice and still don't know what happened or what's the message.
obvious spoilers:
So, in a heroes mental institute called sanctuary, everyone was found dead other than Harley Quinn and booster gold. Booster saw Harley kill everyone. Harley saw booster kill everyone. So its a murder mystery.
Except the comic is all over the place and does not give any needed or required context so it doesn't really feel anything. Like it immediately pulls you in with no context whatsoever, with characters you aren't allowed to build a connection with.
There's this ridiculous segment where Harley Quinn defeats the trinity like what???? Harley Quinn defeating superman , wonder woman and batman is impossible. Ya telling me Harley is stronger than darksied??? Better plot armor than batman...
and superman comments saying how Harley is just as good as Bruce... I call BS. The writers really trynna convince us Harley is stronger than batman.
like what?
she went toe to toe with booster gold and I'm like??? even with half his powers, booster gold wipes the floor with Harley.
And here's the thing, Barry Allen thinks booster killed everyone. Ya telling me he chose to believe Harley Quinn a known dangerous criminal over booster gold?? Booster gold isn't even a anti hero. he doesn't kill. Plus someone pointed out to me Booster probably experienced all this after he watched a version of batman kill himself in front of Booster. Which explains Booster talking about how he sees the blood on his visor despite nothing being there.
Barbara helps Harley and takes down blue beetle (whose helping booster) like even she chose the psycho Harley to protect over booster??
what they smoking!
Now if you take actual culprit. it was wally. Now the story shows a pretty okish segment of wally's downward spiral to a mental breakdown. Except it still was more tell than show. And the plot made no sense.
Wally had a mental breakdown because he believed everyone at sanctuary was faking their mental illness to make him feel better. That he alone was the crazy one. So he "hacked" the system in place and found recordings for everyone's sessions and lost control of his powers accidentally killing everyone.
Ok I can believe he accidentally killed everyone. He was insane and not in the right mind.
but then the writers make him make a plan to frame Harley and booster so he can have time to release all the footage he found as a way to do good for the world what??? people anonymous confidential therapy sessions to louis lane as a way to do good in exchange for his murders and framing others. He also time traveled to kill himself and get a body??
Wally has a segment where everyone tells him he's hope or something. Plus him reliving his Titan days. Him using the stupid mask. But I can't make a sense of it. Because mentally ill people are more likely to hurt themselves than others. The comic perpetuates harmful stereotypes even if Wally killed by accident.
worst part is the writer make it a good thing showing bunch of cameo characters who came to therapy because they realized they weren't alone due to the released recordings???
so Wally was insane enough to lose control and kill and yet still manage to make a supervillain ass plan to frame and kill himself. the story's point is lost in this nonsense.
Plus Clark didn't tell Bruce or Diana about louis having the recordings and only told them after releasing them to the public. What happened to patient confidentiality??? Do superheroes not have rights? Clark went on a spiel about being a reporter- So being a reporter means stomping other peoples rights and outing their private info. The time travel nonsense didn't make sense even with my drawn diagrams to make sense of it. So I'm just left confused. The conclusion is this vague shit where its ok to get help and hope something.
third thing the premise: The premise is mental health institute yet, the writer shown they know nothing about mental health Sanctuary isn't run by people. its run by an AI. The place has chambers where heroes can go in and make anything they want. Any scenario. Now imagine mentally ill people with no guidance and just using the chambers for whatever they want. Wally was using it to relive his dead family in fantasy lala land. Lagoon boy was reliving his ptsd again and again and again Gnarrk was the only one who it helped and that's because he wasn't mentally ill in the way wally or lagoon were. He was just lost and used it as a guidance because he already knew his own issues. Yet dc tries to frame the chambers as a helpful thing and heroes are getting better You cant expect me to believe that after watching wally ignore the AI's questions and pretend has back with his family in a fantasy. The comic is an insult to mental health.
Again, we don't know why 90% of the heroes are at sanctuary. They are just killed off after one appearance. Plus, Jason canonically never went to therapy. Roy was killed off for shock factor. Green lantern apparently doesn't know what "WILL" is... Harley Quinn's word is taken more than Boosters-
I have so many more things I could say but if I have to list everything wrong in this comic this review would be longer than my future. I DO NOT recommend this comic. It's trash and save your sanity. Not even the retcon of this comic salvaged it. Over all, The only good thing in this was Harley and booster interactions because it was funny. That's it.
#dc comics#dc universe#dcu#review#comic review#Rant#writing#harley quinn#booster gold#wally west#batman#green lantern#justice league#batfamily#batfam
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