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ijustsmackedmynewtattoo · 1 year ago
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Deducing With Disorders Pt. 1
Dissociative Disorders: TW - Mentions/Descriptions of Dissociation
Credit to @sleuth2k7 for the idea
So quick disclaimer: I am not a certified psychologist, I am giving generalized advice for deducing with disorders that I have been diagnosed with based on my personal experience. Nothing is one-size-fits-all.
When I was 15 I was diagnosed with derealization/depersonalization disorder. DR/DP is one of three types of dissociative disorders spanning approximately 1%-2% of the population, and as with all dissociative disorders, involves repeated episodes of disconnection from one's sense of self and surroundings. With DR/DP specifically, I experience long episodes of what I can only describe as having a VR headset glued on where you can only watch what's happening to your character, and you just have this certainty nothing in this world is real, occasionally being removed from the driver's seat entirely and placed further back in the VR world by some part of your brain that belongs to you on every count except your own.
TLDR: Am I real? Are you? How to deduce when you aren't sure if you're real is the question.
Answer: I personally do reality checks to start, and I incorporate deduction into that. Am I real? Well does 2+2 still equal 4? Do those baggy pants plus that ill-fitting suit still mean that this teenager is wearing his dad's clothes? Probably. Let's find out.
So when we're reconnecting to ourselves and our surroundings, we look for things that verify our experience as truly our own. Make it a game. Certain deductions are worth certain points, it can help to have a friend to play with. A profession is worth 5, a relationship status is worth 10, etc. No friend? No problem. The classic grounding method of listing 5 things you see, 4 you hear, 3 you can touch, 2 you can smell, and 1 thing you can taste can be built upon to be a more mindful exercise that you don't just run right through.
When listing your sensory observations, use your list to then deduce things about the person. For example, I used to smoke, quit like 2 or 3 years ago, but my ex would always be able to know I had been smoking when I was within 20 feet of her. She could see the nicotine stains, the smudge of ash on my thumb from flicking the cigarette, the lump of a crumpled cigarette pack in my pocket, and not just the obvious pieces of information, she saw the cologne in my bag, and the look on the faces of my friends who would smoke with me before school. For sound she may have heard the dry smoker's cough, the crackling of a lit cigarette, the spritz of a bottle of cologne before I walked up to her, and the click of a lighter in my fidgeting hands. She would reach out and touch the grainy bits of ash on my shirt, and feel the tremors in my hand, and the movement of the pack in my pocket. Obviously, she could smell the tar and smoke of the cigarette, even under the smell of my cologne. Even if I had brought a change of clothes, sprayed copious amounts of cologne, and washed my hands, she could always taste it when we kissed.
All this is of course the long-winded way to say that mindfulness is a invaluable tool when deducing with a disorder that separates you from reality. Hopefully, you can use these mindfulness techniques in conjunction with abductive reasoning to reconnect with yourself and your surroundings. I apologize for the brevity of the post, but rest assured the quality and frequency of posts should be back up to standard soon.
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lenzoli · 23 days ago
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Maxwell's Demon
SUDOKU: Place the digits 1-9 in each row, column, and boldly-lined box.
KILLER CAGES: Digits in a cage do not repeat and sum to the number in the top-left corner.
THERMOS: Digits along a thermometer increase from the bulb end.
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every puzzle i get just a little bit closer to that 5/5 difficulty rating. cmonnn baby gimme that sweet sweet certified pain
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dinosaurwithablog · 2 months ago
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Once again, I have to say that I love old TV shows because they used their creativity and imagination to create things like this. What a brilliant way to find out someone's combination to their safe!! I love this show because they think. No graphic violence. Just thought provoking TV!! We need more shows that make you think and less TV that causes anxiety and teaches criminals how to commit crimes. Just saying... 😁😍
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starsailing101 · 9 months ago
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Irragigo
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This is them coded
EDIT: the artist is Collabwithmyself. Go check them out!
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Deduction Tips #16
The size of a bag is indicative of how much a person needs to carry, and usually we prefer to carry less things. When you see someone with a bag (be it a backpack, a purse, or anything else) think about why this person needs a bigger one rather than a smaller one, and what that says about the contents of the bag and the situation of the person carrying it
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snozzlefrog · 1 year ago
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I know we all love our good regular people but the little objecthead goblin inside of me still thinks of the Murdle characters like their icons
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bullshit-usa · 4 months ago
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Not the psych anon, just someone who thinks it's nonsensical to attempt to get scientific proof that the way certain people live their lives is empirically wrong. Pretty eugenics-y.....
I never said I thought identity is innate, it's a social construct, but we live in a society and are a social species, so as we've developed as a species, identity was one of those developments. Identity can be whatever the fuck we choose because its function is unique to the individual and is communicated however the individual chooses.
Do you really think "woman" and "man" are material things? Because they're not. That's not how biology works, they're just social constructs we applied to clusters of characteristics that have tons of variables and the only reason those variables seem "uncommon" is because of the violent enforcement of the sex binary on intersex people.
Stop being a cop
I am so, so sorry for analyzing why someone may want to inject themselves with steroids - a thing that causes people to die of heart attacks at 30.
We should just let people do things, after all. Just let teens have sex with adults after "consenting," let little Timmy shove powdered bleach into his throat, he says he wants to and says it smells good! I am such a hater. Addicts like doing fentanyl, so ruining their fun by telling them that it can and does kill is eugenics-y.
I am such a believer in eugenics for saying people shouldn't go and sterilize themselves in the pursuit of a bodily aesthetic. Let's just let people experiment. Who cares if they realize what they've done with themselves! You may hurt someone's feelings if you show concern, you know.
You are way more sociopathic than I could ever be.
Like, let us be real here, you aren't demonstrating any actual morally valuable ethics here. You haven't considered the consequences of this shit at all. The most likely reason for you saying this is because realizing and accepting this fact would make you reconsider your choices or wants. That or you want to be seen as a good person so badly you're willing to hypothetically accept the suffering of thousands just so you can feel good about yourself. It is fucking insane.
Putting your own image over an actually reasonable ethical position is fucking crazy. Literal supervillain shit. This is how I see the vast majority of you activists yet I stick to logical arguments because y'all are in actuality so morally apathetic that you're too lazy to even think of potential negative consequences of your beliefs. You understand detransitioners exist, you're talking to one, but my existence quite literally means nothing to you. You don't want to prevent something like my experience from happening again, instead, you want to be seen as a good person, because your image matters more than my health.
Now onto the logic:
Social constructs are downstream of reality. Stereotypes are an interpretation of what people consider to be reality.
Male and female do exist. Masculinity and femininity correspond to the respective sexes for a reason. What is considered "masculine" is downstream of being male, what is considered "feminine" is downstream of being female. What comes first is the sex, then the social construct. The social construct is applied to a person of a specific sex it applies to. So the sex has to be first. The person's sex exists before the social construct is applied, your sex is determined at conception, right when the sperm fertilizes the egg. The whole "everyone starts as female" myth is nonsense. We just don't know until a fetus' genitals develop to a point where it can be differentiated from a female fetus.
The fact that the construct exists doesn't mean reality doesn't. The fact that sex is static (generally speaking) and social constructs aren't doesn't mean sex isn't real or vice versa.
Woman is the word to describe female. Man is the word to describe male. They were synonymous until our culture developed to a point where social constructs weren't enforced as heavily, so our perception of "what men/males do" has become more distant in time.
In the 1700s, women wearing a dress and sewing, cooking, and churning butter were seen as just as female as menstruation and getting pregnant. Our perception and definitions of words have changed and grown beyond their original purpose. This doesn't mean these words have no meaning.
They have just become more abstract, less rigid in application.
A person from the 1700s only justification for why women wear dresses, sew, cook was just as much of a "because they're women" ass explaination as for why we would say "because they're women" in response to why women get pregnant. Life wasn't anymore complicated than that. Their interpretations were just what they saw. They saw women get pregnant and clean, so thats what woman was.
But obviously things are more complicated. But that is due to the industrial revolution. We advanced to where we can do more than be restricted to very limited roles in work or in the household. Men have more strength than women due to testosterone making it easier to build muscle, its not like men happened to be the ones fighting the wars while women farmed and raised the kids for no reason. It's just the evolution of our intellect and of our inventions that now allow women to kill teenagers in the middle east now.
The only "violent enforcement" put on intersex people is the genital correction surgeries, and that is primarily an issue shared with people with all types of deformities and chromosomal issues. Infants were getting genital correction surgery for the same reason infants get surgery to fix their cleft palate despite the consequences for both -they see it as a problem that needs to be fixed for the sake of their kids health (no matter how bullshit that may be) and for their future mental health (no matter how true that may be).
That isn't violence, that's outdated medical practices showing their effects. Beyond that, intersexuality isn't some magical force that makes people go this way or that way, intersex people are one sex or the other. All of us are varied creatures, all of our genitals and amounts of hormones are different for the most part, but we still fit under this binary. Binary does not mean there can't be variation within the binary. It's two separate categories. They can share similarities, but they have characteristics that cannot be found within the other category, so they're classified as binary.
My position is quite literally just be you. You don't need to identify as something else that you can't be. You can like dresses and be male, you can like having short hair and be female. Once you believe that you are this thing, you tend to try and force yourself to become even more like that thing because you still recognize that there are differences. But those differences will never go away, because some of them are just as foundational as which sex chromosomes you have.
No amount of surgery will ever change that, your cells will still keep acting as if they are that sex and will behave in certain ways because you are that sex. Your body will still act like it can produce eggs even when it can't, it's not like the neuroplasticity of the brain. Once an organ is gone, it's gone. Another organ can't become a stomach after you lose your stomach. The body suffers as a result, the same way the brain would if we didn't have neuroplasticity.
And I want to be a lawyer, a prosecutor, why the hell are you telling me not to be a cop, lmfao? Cops and vets are my type
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spacedreamon · 3 months ago
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Hello there! Could I get a playlist for Deductive Logico and Inspector Irratino from Murdle? They are very gay and solve murders together, and canonically every Sunday Irratino fakes his death. I don't know why he’s like this. He’s just a little freak.
Anyway, uhh, character vibes are essentially Logico believes anything he can understand, Irratino believes anything he can't (like the occult, tarot cards, that stuff). They are both INCREDIBLY AuDHD. For music types, I’m good with anything other than country (with the exception of songs like Devil Went Down to Georgia and Before He Cheats) but my favorites are musicals, and styles similar to Ricky Montgomery and Set it Off!
If you need more info, just ask! God knows I would have questions about a playlist for characters from what is literally murder wordle💀
Murders by Miracle Musical
I’ve Heard It Both Ways from Psych The Musical
When He Died by Lemon Demon
Questions Questions from Lizzie
Ruler Of Everything by Tally Hall
Galaxy Song from Monty Python
There’s a Good Reason These Tables Are Numbered Honey, You Just Haven’t Thought of it Yet by Panic! At The Disco
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designed logico now i gotta design his boyfriend
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catsafari25 · 3 months ago
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Another question for the Skulduggery Pleasant fandom, because I've just finished reading the Haunted House on Hollow Hill, and I feel like I'm missing something.
Below the cut 'cause this is, y'know, a murder mystery
Do we get two explanations for how the police officer (Dudley) dies? First is that Grody killed him (and is used as an alibi for Grody & how there is more than one killer abroad) and the other is that Terry did it (and he openly admits it) - the second option is clearly the correct one, given the confession, but it just felt odd that there's not even a nod back to the first red herring.
#skulduggery pleasant#the haunted house on hollow hill#i enjoyed the book a lot! chuckled a lot#but#but but but it feels... still a lil rough?#like it could have gone through another round of editing to smooth it out#i did enjoy the clear riffing on the murder mystery genre (my beloved)#and the constable climbing back in through a window feels like a reference to the mousetrap play#but what the hell was with the 'dont you think its a waste when pretty people die' bit#like. i feel like maybe that was meant to be foreshadowing?? a very shaky maybe#but i feel like there should have been a reference back to it#and derek is doing his usual trick of inventing new magic mechanics we've never seen before#but thats par for the course so i cant be surprised#same with skullduggery's over complicated puzzle solving that are like#'ah yes this clue relies on such obscure knowledge and loose conjecture that none of this is logical anymore'#and sure. in a prev book this does get called out#and yet [gestures to this book]#look. i like riddles as much as the next person#but the sharp riddle barely made sense even when the answer was revealled#like. maaaaybe this was riffing on the overly complicated clues you get in murder mysteries?#but then that would really be leaning more on the sherlockian deduction trope#insane how many people leave full on escape room style puzzles just lying around in the SP universe#anyway. rambles over. feel free to shout at me why im wrong#but like i said this story just felt. rough.#i do think he has improved over the years#his descriptions are smoother than they used to be and more evocative#and the humour is still top notch
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ijustsmackedmynewtattoo · 1 year ago
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Critical Thinking
Anyone who knows me knows I am bad at math. Like. Bad. As in American college-level math is difficult above the rudimentary level. Math requires critical thinking skills. So does deduction. Thus I present Samantha Agoo's 5 Steps to Improve Your Critical Thinking.
Form a question
Gather information
Apply information
Consider the implications
Explore other points of view
That's it. Literally. That is an easy guide to thinking critically. Is my s/o cheating? Let's gather some information: What's on their phone? What's in the trashcan? Is there a specific time of day or night that they are out consistently? Who is their type and do you no longer fit it? Does someone else fit it better? What are their morals? Have they given you any reason not to trust them? Are they more protective of their phone? (Et merda)
Got it? Good. Now apply it. And consider the implications. And explore other points of view. All at once.
Hypothetically, let's say that there isn't anything suspicious on their phone, they are still loving, attentive, and supportive, (that's your key clue right there: if your dog bites you, someone else has been feeding it, and that's not your dog anymore), nothing sus in the trash but they do seem extra eager to go see their friends without you a few times a week and swiftly refuse any suggestions of you joining, also they are protective of their phone and hey maybe you gained or lost weight and just feel like you aren't in their preference pool anymore (first off if you ever feel like that talk to your partner. Seriously, your partner should be lifting you up and be your number one supporter. If your partner ever intentionally makes you feel like crap, know that you deserve better). Anyway so you've run down your list and answered all you questions. Next comes applying the information to narrow down possibilities. Consider what the answers could mean. Your absent lover could be cheating, they could be genuinely out with friends, or they could be planning a surprise for you. Context around clues is key. Let's say everytime you s/o leaves they're dressed nice what does that imply? Out with friends or cheating? Consider an opposing point of view. Question the implications. If you look at the facts and consider all their implications and you still can't determine the picture, flip it around. Would your partner, friends, and family approach the situation differently? What new insight could looking through their eyes offer?
Now you've had a crash course on how to think critically. Enjoy it, hopefully I'll be able to show a real life step by step deduction with critical thinking soon.
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brionysea · 5 months ago
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el was kind of funny for hearing mike say 'if you're still out there give me a sign' and deciding to pull max's skateboard away so she falls over. mike was having flashbacks to the time el threw lucas across the junkyard like WAIT A MINUTE
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book-quotes-i-found · 1 year ago
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“But you forget one thing: my right to religious freedom.”
“Religious freedom doesn’t give you permission to commit murder,” Logico replied.
“But have you considered— what’s that over there?”
Page 334 of Murdle volume 3 by G.T.Karber
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Hi!!! How can deductions be used in day to day life, or like, usefully? And how have you made useful deductions? Sorry if that made little sense
Hi! I see you sent this question in the past two days, i'll gladly answer it, but in case you send any other questions in the future and i don't answer them as quickly i'll inform you that usually all the questions of the week are collected in my inbox and you'd get your answer on a Monday (this week i had some scheduling problems so i pushed it to Wednesday), so if you don't get as quick an answer next time just wait for Monday!
Now, regarding your question! There's many ways deduction can be used in daily life, sometimes it even depends on what you do for a living. For example i know psychologists and other healthcare profesionals have to rely on non verbal communication and information they gather from observation, along with what they're told, since patients can't be relied upon to be transparent and honest all the time, or even know what information is releant to share. In this case deduction can be massively useful.
On a more general note, it depends a lot on the type of relationships you have, i know people who use deduction to interact with their friends, it allows them to know when they're feeling upset or worried, and about what, and act accordingly, all without needing to do more than just glance at them. I know people who use deduction to navigate social situations because they're not good at interacting with people and having the extra information deduction provides helps. Personally i'm someone that introduces deduction into everything i do, from acquiring helpful knowledge when talking to superiors, to knowing what waiter is best to call over at my table cause they've gotten more hours of sleep.
I recommend you watch Sherlock, House M.D., The Mentalist, and all of these deduction heavy shows that sometimes showcase how these characters use their skills casually, it's really not much different than what you see there. If you want a blog that really goes into casual uses of dedduction i'd check out @froogboi 's blog, it's full of everyday life uses of deduction
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snozzlefrog · 1 year ago
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Extremely out of context spoilers for book 3
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arttsuka · 9 months ago
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The couple next door have a cat but I don't know them and I can't pet the cat :(
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