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As someone who works on our meta team said,
“I find it interesting that the same entity that made poor decisions with their own IP and TV show project with DW, meddled executively to have such a subpar ending, is now farming for views with one of those removal decisions and with queer baiting comments in the lead up to said movie.
Not the social team’s fault especially if they don’t know and have just been told to do it probably, but it is still very irresponsible and messy.”
(Allegedly)
Anyway.
#voltron#vld#vld meta#we didn’t say it but…#allegedly#the difference between Voltron and Shera was the IP holders#that’s all#not trying to start discourse ofc
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Just loosing my mind between Ellie and Gail convo, and how fast Gail cracked Ellie after Joel's death.
"He said 'I saved her" / "He saved me a lot of times" / "Bit that's not wronging someone" / "No idea what he meant, I don't feel wronged" and Gail kept pushing for a better answer where Ellie just "deceived" her, Gail's smile and understanding face really showed how she was playing the same game as Ellie was doing. Ofc she knew Ellie was hidding her feelings and intentions, for someone else it could be very believable.
Then, there is the long "Us" discourse from Ellie and more people got that she was faking too much, and for Gail it just clicked that it was more, Ellie telling an even bigger lie to obfscute her reasons, she trying to hide how desperate she was there for revenge, how far she would go to get it, even reading such believable and yet fake text, because she didn't mean all that, she just wanted to get the council approval.
And thats when Gail and Tommy convo gets new meaning "That one? Liar." Gail is just so certain that Ellie was manipulating everyone at that moment, it was bigger than just a lie. And Gail has no idea, but she's being lying her whole life and she has being lied to, so she knows how to do it very well. So the "Turns out nurture can only do this much. The rest is nature. If she's on a path, it's not one that Joel put her on. I think they were walking side by side from the very start." fits very well, its on her being since the beginning, once she decides on something there is no going back and Gail knows there is nothing Tommy can do, that anyone could do and the "Some people just can't be saved" just hits harder.
#the last of us#the last of us hbo#tlou hbo#ellie williams#gail lynden#bella ramsey#catherine ohara#BOTH THESE ACTORS JUST DELIVERED SO MUCH THIS EPISODE OMG OMG THE LAYERS#the show is taking its time to dive deep into these small cosmos so good !!#meta analysis#tlou meta
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How I would have done Teldrassil
There was some Sylv discourse today on twitter, which I totally missed and Nobbel deleted whatever tweet he made so idek what it was about lol, BUT I read some "how it should have been" tweets and I wanted to write down how I would have done Teldrassil:
So, Azeroth just got stabbed and everyone is trying crazy experiments with the newly discovered Azerite. Kaldorei druids end up making some azerite infused super-life substance that has pretty great healing properties, but by accident, they discover it has the opposite effect on undead. It vaporizes undeath. Maybe someone had an undead battle pet out and it touched the goo and it died like a cartoon in roger rabbit.
Anyway, the worst thing to happen to Azeroth in recent history WAS undead and having a potential weapon against that is super good, but there's the whole political problem of ~oops~ we have something that can instantly vaporize a particular enemy race… a race that's not insanely well liked even by their allies... a race that can only keep 'living' by preying on the dead of everybody else, and makes anywhere they live spooky and rotting and gross to everyone but them… anyway we won't keep this secret forever, but, in the middle of this whole azerite-rush, we'll just wait until tensions are not QUITE so high, then bring this all to light in a peaceful and honest way and both factions will have control of supply and security etc., and use it only for the good healing properties, or against any new undead threats, and definitely not against Forsaken.
But ofc, Horde spies end up discovering the existence of this Undead-Away and tell the Warchief.
A good Warchief would handle this by demanding it all fully be turned over to both factions, they would acknowledge the benefit of having that kind of power, studying the tech, but also acknowledge the extreme danger to an integral part of the Horde, and take extra steps to ensure their safety and reiterate the Forsaken's value to the Horde.
Warchief Sylvanas, however, would need to ensure Undead-Away was destroyed, and kill anyone who knew how to make it, at any cost. That type of unique threat to the Forsaken could not be allowed to exist. She would claim the Night Elves had been creating a weapon unbeknownst even to their allies (technically true), and were therefore preparing to be aggressive (a lie). She would omit the fact this weapon only affects undead, maybe even orchestrate an incident that made it seem like it affected the living too, with the help of her alchemists. Even if it came to light that this weapon only really affected undead, the idea of deceitful Night Elf weaponry would still have been planted, that particular knowledge would come too late to really matter.
Teldrassil must be attacked and temporarily controlled in order to purge this substance too dangerous for either faction to control. "USE IT ON THE ALLIANCE" some more bloosthirsty members of the Horde would say. No, no, Sylvanas would say, that would be dishonorable :). For the good of Azeroth, such a weapon must be destroyed. Sylvanas has turned a new leaf after all, she's not blighting anymore, she's interested in stability as Warchief. Both factions should be kept in check.
So, the plan would be to surprise attack Teldrassil, occupy it, purge the city of all the Undead-Away, and then... leave. They would make their intentions clear to the Alliance (after they had started the attack, of course) and actually, pretty true to their word, they would let anyone who wanted to leave the tree go peacefully. Obvs any nobody-druid who knew how to recreate the weapon would wind up dead, and any too-important druid would have to risk escalating the conflict by calling out Sylvanas's lies. But for the most part, there would be no excessive death caused by the Horde forces, Sylvanas would even make a point of publicly punishing any Horde for unapproved violence.
Sylvanas wouldn't need or want a greater conflict than necessary, so there would be none, unless the Alliance wanted to return to all out war against the Horde over what would ultimately amount to just be humiliation.
Because a pre-BFA, pre-Jailer, pre-shit Sylvanas's end goal was this: Don't die. She tried dying before, and she went to Hell, so her goal now is Never Die Again. Never Dying would be achieved by ensuring the Forsaken are a strong race with a secure future. For that, she needs a balance of Forsaken power, but also healthy and happy living races that keep reproducing, so that they keep dying, so that Forsaken can keep reproducing.
But, at some point during the occupation, Teldrassil burns. And we don't know why. Maybe some Horde did it to be mean. Maybe it was an accident as some Night Elves fought back righteously against the occupying Horde. Maybe some kind of magic + Undead-Away is insanely flammable. We never learn the truth, and if we did, it doesn't matter. The Alliance blames the Horde, and the Horde blames the Alliance.
The leaders of the Alliance heroically and epically rescue most of the citizens still in the city, with Tyrande and Malfurion leading the effort. The Horde occupying the city are not quite as lucky, but they're soldiers. So a lot of them are tryhards and have gliders so they can just jump off the tree :). And some Alliance and Horde still die horribly in flames.
Night Elves lose their home, and Sylvanas prepares for the Alliance's retaliation. It wasn't her goal, but it's something she can work with. The Horde and the Forsaken will not fall, and the banger ass BFA trailer actually makes sense and isn't false advertising.
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(Reads your tags reblogging my post) Oh cool lol
Seriously though, tell me about it! :) What are your thoughts on Link Click getting a happy ending other than wanting it to? What’s your reasoning for it making sense? :)
Hiiiii! it's so nice 🥹 to meet people who root for link click happy ending. ftghvuhjdhhjjk.. anyways. I saw your ask the moment you sent it but I was collecting sources (Tumblr meta/twitter thread) for your easy access. That will be a LOT of reading and I think I missed a few posts. I'll add once I find them (I need to get better at tagging 😭)
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This was my first meta. Even though it gets heavier in theory, I think you'll find it interesting! I argued here how Shiguang represents Yin/Yang who can't exist without each other. Either they both die from the same realm or exist together. Separation does not fit them.
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Extraordinary thread. You can follow Temps on twitter, they have brilliant and insightful analysis! Also Centofu. They argue how Cheng Xiaoshi is NOT the dead wife. He appears to be but it is lc typical illusion.
(Before pasting other links I want to give you a summary of my theory. So, narratologically speaking, every storytelling (except for absurd tragi-comedy, link click is ofc not an absurd tragi-comedy) has to make a journey from point A to point B, weaving a significant difference along the way. In simpler terms, you can't revert back to point zero. It doesn't make sense. It won't signify anything.
Every tragic tragedy opens with a very happy setting and then things go downhill and that's why the tragedy hits hard. By definition, comedy is a genre that starts with a depressing/sad setting, there are hindrances and then happy ending makes so sense, it becomes satisfactory.
Now, tell me, exactly when link click was happy in the beginning? it has the doomed narrative even before the narrative began. Cheng Xiaoshi, the protagonist died BEFORE the story even began and Lu Guang has been hurting since S1 (or before). We were just not aware of it. Would it really make a justifiable artistic journey if link click begins with Cheng Xiaoshi's death and Lu Guang's pain and then AGAIN ends with Cheng Xiaoshi's death and Lu Guang's acceptance of his death? Huh. It will be an extremely dull move. For a genius story like Link Click, I have a hard time accepting the fact that it will sail in that direction.
Also, Shiguang are heavily paralleled with noodle lesbians (do you know that in real life they are very close male colleagues working in the Haoliners Animation League lmao), Dong Yi/Xu Shanshan, Liu Siwen and his wife story; each and every story tells how sincerity of love transcends the wrath of fate. Also if you tell me, but yk Shiguang are explicitly paralleled with Chen Bin/his wife in S2 ep 12 so they are doomed right?
Well, you remember what Cheng Xiaoshi said while diving into old Chen Bin and proposing his wife going back in time right after Chen Bin's funeral? He said : In another lifetime, I promise that I will never leave you.
Those are Cheng Xiaoshi's words to Lu Guang. Our timeline is basically their next life. Cheng Xiaoshi died and the past world crumbled and destroyed with him, it no longer exists (yes, director haoling li said that parallel timelines don't exist. the moment lu guang dived into a new photo, the reality of the last world stopped existing) so, in a sense, lu guang also doesn't exist in that timeline. It's like...they both died. And now it's their next life trying to be with each other.
Another strong evidence of lc happy ending is The Eye, Yingdu's opening- from lyrics to visual storytelling everything hints at a shiguang happy ending with qiao ling's active intervention. This song has a literal discourse. If you are interested, I'll list the analysis in a separate post.)
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Yingdu ep 1 is actually a very hopeful and strong anti-death narrative if I say despite literal horror maiming us in the beginning...it's so good (I think I didn't 😭 complete the review tho)
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Ah Shakespeare. As we know that Shakespeare's poet speaker (lg clearly) is attempting to save his beloved fair youth (cxs our precious boy) from the scythe of death and fate. Yingdu stresses on Shakespeare sonnets very much, so this metatexual reading is important if you ask me.
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We should leave the fuck out in front of Bilibili and learn how to not give a single fuck about your favourite ship. I suggest watching Bilibili's every Yingdu edit on twitter.
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ah, do not forget to read the reblogs for more critical and hopeful discussions
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The whole yearning poem of lg genius link clickers deciphered
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hahahaha, Temps again.
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My analysis on shiguang parallels with Dong Yi/Xu Shanshan story.
I should have saved my noodle lesbians and Liu Siwen post too..ugh anyways I'll add them when I find them
#tumblr asks#link click happy ending#link click theory#shiguang#link click#lu guang#cheng xiaoshi#shiguang daili ren#时光代理人#yingdu chapter#guangshi
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Intro because I forgotited :3
Burning info!!: I’m the REAL Burning Spice, every other Burning is a FAKER. I currently am uh… 5798? Years old!! Me and Shadow are NOT married, but I do love his kids like my own 😤 I’m the strongest ever and even top surgery could not touch my beautiful man boobs 😋 (trans burning cannon)
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I actually hadn’t seen that quote and now I know it exists I don’t know how the limits of redemption discourse still goes on ☠️ George has literally given spoilers to get people to understand
I don’t even consider it spoilers tbh lol because I think it is just quite obvious that Jaime’s arc is a redemption arc and GRRM doesn’t have any idea how many people online are trying to argue otherwise for the sake of being contrarian.
Like we understand that one of Sansa’s key arcs is about empowerment, i.e. we see her disempowered and lacking agency, but know from the general trajectory of her story so far that through her trials she will grow into a more active and empowered character. One of Arya’s key themes is identity, so we know that whilst she’s cycling through various different names and faces, this is all building towards her becoming Arya Stark once again.
And we know this because we know how stories work!!! doesn’t mean we can say exactly how these things will happen or that these are the only themes in their story, but knowing how arcs work is just basic media literacy.
So when people come out with these limp takes about Jaime’s arc as one of failed redemption/that his arc isn’t about redemption in the first place and wait for applause….. idk I just have to cringe.
bc it’s always backed with these sad little notions about ‘Jaime saving Brienne from a bear because she reminds him of himself and he’s that self obsessed’ or ‘Jaime saved KL to save his own skin’ or ‘Jaime sent Brienne to look for Sansa bc he couldn’t be bothered’ or ‘Jaime’s actions at Riverrun show that he’s just a Tywin wannabe’.
Sorry but this is just such a sad fucking way to read a book lol. Like. you must KNOW that that’s not what these scenes mean?? you must know that GRRM, who himself hates nihilism and says he believes in redemption, is not someone who would waste his fucking time writing a story about a character who starts out shit, does a handful of accidentally/selfishly good things, then decides he can’t be bothered anymore and dies. like is that really the story you want to see?? be honest lmao
I’ve said before I think that apart from the people who really can’t get their heads around the idea that redemption is even a theme here (and as for them…. what can you even say lol), the rest is just bad faith reading from ppl who are desperate to prove they weren’t taken in by Jaime Lannister and his charms, and want to shit on ‘the fangirls’ whilst they imagine themselves nodding sagely when he, inevitably, capsizes as a character in the next book. like for sure. Jaime, after abandoning his army to follow Brienne into the woods in hopes of saving Sansa, will meet LSH and decide he can’t be arsed w redemption and so will promptly go running back to KL to commit some kind of mutual suicide with Cersei because ofc, that relationship has to be as static as the rest of his character, as they see it.
I mean sorry but how am I meant to take that shit seriously lol it’s just not how stories function. that’s not subversive that’s just bad
#ask#they’re so impressed w themselves for saying it as well and im just like. I don’t know how to get through to you ppl and won’t try#jaime lannister#asoiaf
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Another yapping session lol, I haven't done this in a while. Omfg tho, I didn't mean for this thing to be as long as I made it. I'm sorry shfgsidfhsfjgsdlg
By clicking read more you will be subjected to novel spoilers and my messy long rant about LoTCF. This is your warning.
I've thought about this for a long time but LoTCF is a fix-it novel. Not sure if someone thought about the same thing or if they have talked about it yet. But I've felt this way ever since I read about Kim Rok Soo's life.
After realising what he went through and just how hard his life is made me realise why he does the things he does. Why he has such a mindset. Why he values the little things other people would not even think about.
It made even more sense after hearing how he was collateral damage from the White Star's curse. How he can't hold the things he deemed dear close to him as he will always be bound to lose it. To lose them.
Lastly, it made me realise why the novel seems all sunshine and rainbows in the long run. Sure, there are angsty moments. Some moments and arcs made me bawl for weeks on end. Made me feel as though my heart was being ripped out of my chest (Looking at you earth lore). However, at the end of it all everyone on Cale's side is okay. It's like watching one of those old-school shonen animes where you know everyone will save the day with the power of friendship.
And I know I'm not the only one who noticed that. I saw a lot of discourse about how the series would be more interesting if someone actually died. If a lot was on the line. Something like ORV.
And omg does it piss me off so much.
Because once again LoTCF is a fix-it novel.
It's a novel about starting again. About Cale finally being able to hold and protect the things dear to him.
That's why it wouldn't make sense for him to lose more.
Plus, I genuinely think that if he loses one more thing important to him (non-material ofc) that would be his last straw. He has already been through so much. And it was because of something he didn't even have a clue about. Something he essentially had no business with if White Star just wasn't a greedy mfer.
I think some people also forget or doesn't realise the fact that this is also Cale's last chance. Like Ron and Choi Han who has lost their families several times and deemed their new group as their last chance. Their last family.
It's the same for Cale.
He already lost his biological parents. He already lost his brothers.
He can't lose his new family too.
That's why no one can die.
Despite that, as a reader, I am scared though. Scared at the lengths he's willing to go to protect his family.
Because this man has no self-preservation skills despite him always saying he has no plans of getting hurt or dying. I mean, I can't blame him for not knowing his worth. His life has been shit. He always had to go above and beyond to try and grasp the things he wanted only for them to still slip away from his fingertips. Like he's trying to collect running water with open palms.
And until now, even without the curse, he does the same thing. Because it's what he's used to. Maybe he subconsciously thinks that if his efforts dwindle a little he'll lose everything again. Not fully comprehending that it's fine now. That it's okay for him to breath a little.
Anyway, my point is I'm scared that at some point Cale will try to protect everyone and everything at his own cost. Will try to convince himself that he will be fine when he won't be. I mean I've already heard spoilers from book 2 and heard that's what seems to be happening right now.
I'm just scared that a point will come where Cale won't be able to come back from the decisions he makes in the name of protecting his family.
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honestly i don’t want to start discourse but it makes me so sad to see so much hate towards caleb girlies and caleb online :( like i had to block like five people on twt in a ROW cuz all i keep getting on my feed is people calling caleb girls weird for enjoying his story or calling caleb ugly or literally only talking about zayne’s cameo in caleb’s story and it’s like?? why is it okay to do that with caleb’s story but not okay with all the other LI’s…
LADS is either a bunch of girls first otome game or they’re not over 18 with the immaturity they’re showing towards not only darker tropes but to other ADULT women who enjoy darker content like yanderes in fiction :/
this is actually just a case that can be resolved as simply as “don’t play it if you don’t like it” 😐 they can always skip caleb if they don’t want him, and if they hate him so much then they can discuss it with their own circle rather than spewing hate on ppl who like him
you see, i don’t even bother to open twitter anymore bc of how toxic lads global players there. they’re practically rioting over the banalest things everyday and it all comes down to how they can’t accept that this is a game by a chinese company and thus will inevitably have some chinese culture in it—bc let’s be real, all this caleb discourse stems from the fact he’s called “gege” in the first place :)
and then the sylus discourse too. it’s strange how i’m also a sylus girlie but i see no problem with his content so far? but they’re trying to make it as if sylus has little content and bad myth when caleb gets the same treatment. infold is not an all-perfect being, they’re innovating bit by bit too (they might say i’m defending infold but hey, all content we get is from them too—i’m not a hypocrite). i don’t compare sylus or caleb to xavier-zayne-rafayel bc they’re the first to be announced so ofc there will be a gap between them, but yeah some people can’t accept it. maybe bc i’ve played other otome games before, but later characters usually have less content than the original characters first announced in the game so i’ve come to think of it as normal. but we never know, it could be that infold is cooking behind the scenes too so why not wait and be patient like a cultured person?
and you’re so true when it comes to immaturity—it’s as if all content/characters have to cater to their own wants and needs 😐 and it’s always the global players. the cn/jp fandom don’t really have this sense of “entitlement” from what i’ve seen or at least, not as severe. some global players keep demanding as if they’re the only consumers infold has when the chinese market generates revenue many many times than them. why should infold cater to them? sigh
#📨 — mailbox#tw discourse#i don’t usually get into this but the things i’ve seen in twitter are grating at my nerves too#this is just a game oml why are fandom ppl always making a big deal out of everything
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I've been having a goddamn conniption over this post (user cropped out bc I do not like starting discourse or inadvertently getting people harassed. if you find the og post do NOT harass them. This post is just my response to this take on this fictional character. I'm likely going to get heated because this game is a hyperfixation of mine, so I feel some stronger emotions about it. Any anger I have is pointed at the opinion and not the person. okay moving on.)
This take somehow manages to miss almost every major story beat of Curly's character and SOMEHOW takes his depression and turns it into a belief system. Like. I don't even know how this conclusion was reached???
Curly is not fatalist he's literally depressed and feels trapped in his life. yk. like. like how depressed people often feel. He's reached the top rung of the ladder in the corporation he's in and realizes he may have picked the wrong career altogether, and feels trapped because of it; that's not believing in fate. Nowhere in the game does it even IMPLY that Curly is fatalist.
here I have compiled screenshots that in fact prove the opposite
you see, if he thought the future was predetermined; why on earth would he talk about changing it? About doing something different, taking a leap? Why would he ponder trying to make a better life for himself if he thought there was no other way things could be?
like I hope we're looking at the same fatalism definition
Honestly, the only argument I even need to refute the point "Curly uses fatalism to avoid responsibility" is the fact he went into the cockpit before the crash. If he truly was resigned to fate, he would've continued to stand frozen outside, and wouldn't have done ANYthing. But he tries to change the outcome. He runs in there, and tries to save his crew. He (at least tries to) takes RESPONSIBILITY for JIMMY'S actions and his OWN INACTION in that moment.
Also. "Curly knows he's doing wrong" What? His worst crime is being too nice. His fatal error is trusting in Jimmy too much, NOT thinking he does no wrong. I don't even know how to disprove that because it's so fucking off character that there is nothing I could even show. yk I'm abt 90% this rant would make more sense if you just. Talked about Jimmy being a fatalist. Because he's literally the guy who thinks he does no wrong, and thinks he fixed everything, and that all the harm that happened was "out of his control, and had to happen, there was no other way!!" I still feel like it's a stretch even for his character but it makes more sense than using CURLY?? Curly is fucking depressed, not fatalist, and certainly not the main antagonist??? That's something I'm not even gonna touch on in-depth because that opinion is beyond the realm of saving. The antagonists of the game are explicitly the company Pony Express and Jimmy. The morally grey characters who could have acted more but didn't (mostly) are Curly and Swansea.
Curly still does shit wrong, yeah, but not because he believes his actions don't matter. Most of his inaction comes from his complex friendship with Jimmy and the looming threat of the company, not a belief system.
I don't even know how to TLDR this. Just. Curly is not the bad guy for being depressed and feeling trapped.
if anyone wants to reblog/comment to add onto this with stuff I might've missed go ahead I definitely left out stuff. This was made in a kind of angry headspace, I am so sorry for the swearing I'm not usually an angry person. Again my anger is towards the opinions not the creator of them. Again again, if you find op (doubtful) do NOTTTTT harass them for the love of everything. Debate and discussion are always open ofc, and if I get into a debate with someone I will not be as upset as I am here because that will not be productive at all lmao. Sorry if I seem super angry or bitchy here augh I just really like Mouthwashing and Curly and felt like this did him SUCH a disservice. Okay rant officially over.
#I'm still kind of fuming#but I'm calmer now#one day this fandom is going to break me#today is not that day#the shit I have to see as a Curly fan holy fuck#mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#rant#rant post#Jace rants 🗯️#yap#yapping#long post#mouthwashing curly#hyperfixation post
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okay one person said yes so here's the vampires and werewolves ramblings from my little original story with lila and redd that i still don't have a name for
THE BIG VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES RAMBLE LET'S GO
the vampires and werewolves are mostly typical in their appearance, methods, and weaknesses, just to slightly different degrees. the sun won't immediately incinerate a vampire, but it will give severe burns much faster than usual that could definitely kill one, just much slower than being incinerated. werewolves develop an allergy to silver but are about as easily murdered with a silver bullet as with a regular one so in that regard, not much of a difference.
the whole faith-based weaknesses thing is much. blurrier. i hesitate to explain it away but let's call it varying on a case-by-case basis.
also humans at large do not know that werewolves and vampires are real, they're more-or-less secret/hiding in plain sight
VAMPIRES:
i feel compelled to start with the social/cultural aspects that are focused on in the story.
vampirism is treated less as a disease or curse and more as a lifestyle choice by most vampires. due to the turning process involving drinking each other's blood and not solely being bitten, there's usually more consent involved in the process, so most vamps are turned by choice. we see this in the "support group" that turns out to be more of a fun club of vampires that redd attends, in which he is surprised to find that he's the only one that was turned unwillingly.
vampires who chose the lifestyle tend to come in a few different varieties: the people who are 100% down with all the vampire shit one way or another and are handling things well, the people who are mostly down but have hang-ups about certain things, and the people who Thought they were down and ended up unprepared for basically everything.
the amount of Discourse in the vamp lifestyle community is insane.
there's different ways that vamps go about obtaining blood. usually it's either via an underground blood bag market (ideally obtained from willing donors, but ofc sometimes not) or by finding live donors or "thralls" as some say. many vamps have strong opinions on other vamps' drinking preferences.
the most hardcore of vampires are either living with houses full of willing thralls, or scouring the streets for unsuspecting victims (which is deeply frowned upon in the vampire community because Come On Now Let's Not Put Up Neon Signs Saying VAMPIRES ARE HERE we're trying to be Subtle)
in any case, in order to not Die Of Thirst as a vampire, you need to be able to maintain regular connections of some kind. either with someone selling blood in bagged form (and then you need to verify the source of the blood if ethics is an issue for you) or you need to keep good relationships with any live donors (and ideally you'd have multiple to rotate through so that blood loss isn't an issue for their health) (this is difficult for redd because he can barely stand going grocery shopping much less going into a dark alley to ask someone for a blood bag or *shudders* maintaining long-terms pleasant relations with live donors he has to see regularly)
onto biology
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the teeth resemble that of an actual vampire bat, and the proportions of the incisors and canines vary from individual to individual, though some vamps get dental surgery to shave the incisors down and/or wear additional fang caps to achieve the classic fanged look if they aren't lucky when they turn. this tooth formation is very convenient for multiple biting styles, depending on tooth size. either the "carving" method using the front incisors to make a single angled cut, or the classic fangs puncturing two holes. either way, the blood is then licked/sucked up via usual mouth methods (no tooth straws here sorry) the wounds caused by bites must be cared for via usual means (no magic healing saliva sorry). also the teeth usually grow into their final shape within 30 days of being turned
vampires can only subsist on Human blood. animal blood will tide their hunger and fill their stomachs, but will not nourish them as they need. if a vampire goes too long without feeding on human blood, they will enter into a Feeding Frenzy
the time it takes to enter a feeding frenzy varies, but the longest most go from their last human sip to the frenzy is around 1.5 months. and that is the absolute longest with animal blood as a substitute. without anything it takes Far less time.
symptoms of a feeding frenzy start soon. extra strong cravings for blood ofc, decreased body temperature, lack of energy, shaky hands, etc. the closer you get to the frenzy the more intense the symptoms become, and more start to appear, such as decreased blood flow to the extremities (mostly fingers and toes), various aches and pains increasing in intensity, seemingly random bursts of energy, and also the irises will turn red when the subject is exposed to blood or when the frenzy is around the corner as a sort of final warning. increased sensory sensitivity and abnormal behavior such as suddenly chomping on people and/or animals is also a thing.
the frenzy isn't officially entered until the vampire transforms into a giant bat monster. it is more giant bat than it is human, in appearance. it loses almost all conscious thought, relying only on instinct to survive, and will drink the blood of any person it can get its weird little wing-hands on until satiated (which will take. a very long time. historically they never found out the limit because they were usually mobbed and killed by then) there is no known cure for a feeding frenzy, only prevention. the prevention is just drinking blood regularly like you're supposed to.
vampires are also extra sensitive to light and have an increased sense of smell, but their hearing doesn't change much unless they have entered a feeding frenzy. also garlic won't kill them but they are allergic (to the flower also) and also regular food can be consumed but gives them the shits like you would not Believe.
WEREWOLVES:
once again starting with the social aspects, lycanthropy is treated more like a sickness or curse by most werewolves within the story. lycanthropy only requires either a bite or drinking the water from a pawprint to turn, so unwilling werewolves are more common (usually via the bite method obvs) (lila is an exception to this rule)
the group lila attends is a legitimate support group for people suffering with lycanthropy, and they treat it as a safe space to discuss all aspects of the disease. including the part where upon first turning, people usually turn violent in some capacity, usually due to fear and confusion, but occasionally due to rage experienced prior to turning having a fresh outlet alongside the fear and confusion (generally the story doesn't treat the killing of various victims as very serious, i'm taking more of a comedy route with that, so the support group is like "oh you killed and ate three people? i completely understand you are so valid for that")
there are also a few werewolf-made support apps to assist people throughout the lunar cycle. there's a big focus on self care and promoting Peace and Serenity around the full moon to ensure a safe transformation and minimal collateral damage. (yes it is basically a period tracking app. yes it is very gender euphoric for lila to have)
there isn't a lot that can be done to mitigate symptoms of lycanthropy, but there Are both scientist werewolves and werewolf allies working towards a cure
now for the biology
this is the part that i have less of. mostly because werewolf diets aren't that crazy i feel like. there is definitely an increased demand of meat, especially red meat, and raw meat is also now more easily/safely digestible due to a change in the makeup of the stomach acid!
werewolves transform based on the lunar cycle, but "mini" transformations can be triggered in high-stress situations as well. these include things like sudden fur growth, changes from hands/feet to more paw-like structure, and even facial changes and tail growth. however, these changes (even a full-body change) will not be as severe as when they occur under the full moon.
first transformations occur on the nearest or second-nearest full moon. like. if you get bitten the night before the full moon, you get turned the next cycle, there hasn't been enough time for it to set in yet. you have to wait at least a week. initial symptoms include increased body hair growth, extra cravings for red meat, increased aggression and territoriality, and an increased sense of smell. the first transformation is always the most painful, and usually pain decreases to what will become typical levels between the third and twelfth cycle. (there are werewolf meds/methods/life hacks/etc to help with the pain)
after the first transformation, certain permanent physical changes occur. the canines all become larger and sharper (you get four fangs) and the ears become longer and pointier, and the eyes typically experience a permanent color change as well, depending on the original shade. usually lighter eye colors like blue or gray will turn icy blue or white, while lighter browns might become more golden. darker browns and black usually remain the same. tapetum lucidum also. the whites of the eyes also turn black during transformation, but this is usually not permanent.
the big transformation itself involves a full-body change into a giant wolf-human hybrid, which can go from quadrupedal to bipedal fairly easily. speech in this form is difficult, but not impossible, mostly the voice just gets deeper and rougher. due to the energy expense of transforming, a great feast is recommended before, during, and after a full moon transformation (the biggest one during). obtaining large amounts of red meat every month gets costly and welp there's only so much the werewolves can do about that since they tend to keep things secret between them and humans. you're on your own there with obtaining it. hope you're friends with a butcher (or an experienced hunter who no longer has a need for the Large Amounts Of Meat he keeps from the deer he hunts for leather these days) (cough cough that's redd cough cough)
also, werewolf blood counts as human enough to sustain a vampire.
i thiiiink that's everything i have so far?? if anyone has questions/suggestions lemme know i'd love to brainstorm <3
#ramblings with major#how true that tag is today#lila and redd#cursing#hopefully this is coherent. ask me all the things if you'd like uwu <3
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Hi I've been speed running reading though all of your posts on Sete and Valentino and Casey and Valentino and ough you're a godsend and literally your analysis on everything is just so good I've been euphoric for a good hour.
It's just so fun to read through all of these and I really really like that one point you made about Valentino having fun poking at Casey like he was a particularly interesting puzzle because yeah that's the best way I've seen it summarised by anyone plus Sete and Valentino's rivalry is never talked about enough in my opinion but in retrospect I'm also just very obnoxious about the two of them so maybe that's a me thing.
I hope this isn't annoying I'm just freaking out because I'm annoyingly into this stuff and all this analysis on them is like from my dreams wow thank you so much for all the work you've put into this!!!
oh this is so lovely, cheers! extremely not annoying and very much appreciated! interest in proper sete/valentino scholarship in these parts trending healthily, for casey/valentino admittedly still in the absolute gutter - but both of them SO niche that i always get very hype when someone else is enthusiastic about them. and i'm EXTREMELY up for talking about them... yes 2 me valentino having fun poking casey is so key like... he loved having that challenge!! it was a fun challenge for him!! casey's the toughest puzzle he could have been given! people must take the whimsy in the casey/valentino rivalry seriously...
okay so. as evidence of how up for talking about them i am,, i am continuing in a proud tradition of using an ask to discuss something kinda tangentially related. i have been thinking a lot recently about these two rivalries as a set. so,, this did get a little longer than i was intending but well. it is a very nice ask. here goes:
ofc on many levels, these two rivalries are VERY different. sete is unambiguously the rival-valentino-later-feuded-with who valentino pre-feud is closest to, joint holidays and all, whereas casey was always kept at a difference. a big part of the sete rivalry is how sete is framed as somehow 'lesser' and not as worthy a rival, which feeds into how eager valentino is to dismiss him and then erase him - whereas casey obviously gets to be The Most Talented and is a young challenger etc etc so a) is accepted more readily as a rival in public discourse, and b) is accepted more by VALENTINO. because casey challenging him is more flattering to the ego than sete challenging him. so by some metrics they're two of the most different valentino feuds. the vibes, they are very different
bUT i do think there's more to be said about how the two rivalries,, like... interact... firstly because to some extent there's ofc going to be a causational relationship, where how the sete rivalry played out affects how the casey rivalry played out. the casey rivalry follows on from the sete rivalry... casey quite literally takes sete's ducati seat... casey replaces sete as valentino's rival... believers of the 'sete was valentino's coming of age rivalry' thesis would suggest that valentino enforcing a certain amount of distance from virtually the start with casey was informed by his post-sete approach to rivalries. a valiant attempt to try and keep them a bit less messy. which is also sensible.... like personally i've always agreed with valentino on this, it's tough to completely separate your feelings towards someone from a competitive rivalry, it makes sense to kinda hate the person who deprives you of what you want most ESPECIALLY if it helps motivate you to beat them, it makes sense to not be ultra friendly towards your rivals if that doesn't really work for you. the problem is that on the casey end, he comes into this rivalry with SO much baggage in both a general sense (he's been through so much to get to the premier class) and related to valentino specifically (hero worship and how valentino low key represents casey's hopes and dreams for the sport) that this valentino approach very much Did Not Land Well with him. and it's kinda... for one and a half seasons, is valentino really doing anything THAT crazy to casey - that isn't also more or less matched by what casey himself is saying about valentino during the same period...? opinions differ! but, the thing is, valentino was always going to hurt casey. all of valentino's later rivals have all this weird hero worship baggage with him that's kinda disastrous to manage in a competitive rivalry situation... valentino was sort of damned whatever he did on that front, like i'm not saying he was at any point particularly interested in casey's emotional wellbeing but. laguna 2008 only gets worse if valentino is nicer to him before that. except he needs to laguna casey to win the 2008 title, so now what. he worsened that relationship in a way that has a clear competitive logic, but it's also understandable why casey took it so so poorly
and i do think! the fun link between these two rivalries is that at certain points. to some extent. casey gets to slip into the role of what valentino was doing in the sete rivalry. because to valentino, for the duration of their ON-TRACK rivalry, casey's this fun tricky puzzle to solve. and the bitterness and animosity only really comes late on when casey figures out how to properly piss valentino off post-2010. but for CASEY, he's all-in with the emotional investment. he cares SO much. it's his coming of age rivalry in the same way the sete rivalry is for valentino. by 2007, valentino's more or less the finished article. obviously all the later rivalries still affect him, but he's not going through a Character Arc the same way he is in 2003-05 where he's fundamentally a different competitive animal by the end of it when compared to the start. like he's done that already!! whereas casey does it with valentino, where valentino becomes so synonymous with SO many issues casey has with the sport and also manages to spark some specific bizarre neuroses within casey that it's just all... it ends up being So Much for casey. valentino is constantly the frame of reference within the sport to casey, valentino is the one who sparks casey's transformation
and the similarities do go beyond that. like,, valentino does kinda get valentino'd a bit. the turning point of the vale/casey rivalry everyone points to is laguna 2008, casey has HIMSELF called it the turning point of his entire CAREER, he STILL talks about it a lot. but the thing is, right, these two are not feuding immediately after laguna 2008! casey apologises at the next race for being so rude to valentino and saying he'd lost respect and all that stuff. obviously they do to some extent still reference laguna after that point, but it's very sparingly pre-2010 and the relationship only really sours in that mid-2010-11 period. two years later!! and it's just... when you think about how the sete/vale rivalry unfolded and there's this sort of delayed backlash, where valentino's clearly already not happy with the sete rivalry being a thing in 2003 (cf sachsenring) and then there's all these Complaints brewing in 2004 (mugello, assen)... and you've got valentino himself saying that qatar just provided him an 'excuse' not to talk to sete... i'm not saying jerez 2011 fulfils quite the same function for casey/vale because the relationship is already pretty fucked by then, but it is kinda that same vibe. the benefits of biding your time!! casey couldn't really fight valentino back in 2008, he just wasn't ready yet to have that fight, but in 2010 he WAS and valentino had broken his leg and wasn't the undisputed king of the sport anymore. casey was in a stronger position! he was very much in a stronger position by the time 2011 rolls around and he's winning and valentino's not. and he shamelessly takes advantage of that state of affairs to lash out at valentino at pretty much every opportunity - because now he finally can. it's that vibe of... these wounds festering, of them sitting on this grudge and being able to park it for extended periods of time, but it still Being There. and then when the moment arrives, they go for the kill
and it's really that vibe of malice. like i always feel what unites casey and valentino above and beyond any of the other big name riders is how *nasty* they get. not aggressive, not killer instinct, not insane or any other word used to describe some of these riders, but nasty. viciously mean, where they really have this air of maliciousness to them, the ability to twist in the knife. it's not just about winning, it's about making it hurt. valentino is a bit more discriminating in his targets - casey sometimes just says something insanely rude about some rando he's met twice in his life - but they've both got it. and i do think their respective coming of age rivalries helped them... embrace that evil energy. with sete, valentino's whole thing is this marriage of joy and cruelty where he uses his quirky lil post-race celebrations to actively humiliate sete - it's targeted, it's personal, it goes beyond anything valentino had done up until that point. in the biaggi rivalry he's way more reactive, in the sete rivalry he wants to break the other man. with casey... the thing about valentino being Like That is that it gave him this sense of (self) righteousness where he felt that valentino was such a deserving target that he could just completely have at it. free reign. but it's free reign to instincts he already had all along. and in 2011-12, it means that casey can attack valentino all he likes while keeping a pretty friendly relationship with his actual on-track rivals - it's almost like he gets it out of his system
my fave Fun Parallel for the intellectuals - vale/casey vs taking shoulder injuries seriously

(h/t to #1 sete scholar @bikefuckersoftheworldunite for that one valentino line)
'i don't think i hurt his shoulder' vs 'best shoulder doctor in melbourne hospital' like tbf that one did come back round nicely to bite valentino
like they're both assholes!! (casey and valntino, that is.) it's so key that they're both assholes with the potential to be cruel and petty and often lack any sense of what constitutes a proportionate response. gOT to be the starting point for understanding these rivalries. because the malice is such a massive motivation for both of them. which brings us neatly onto the next point - they're both LIARS about this. and they both lie about this in their autobiography specifically. with valentino, it's going from being very clear that he's motivated by his rivalry with other riders and sete specifically to almost entirely erasing sete from his autobiography and talking about HONDA lodging an appeal in qatar (again h/t to bike and specifically this super helpful post)
whereas casey goes from saying in 2012 that "i started to find other reasons to win. i just wanted to beat everyone, just to annoy them" to saying in his autobiography he didn't care who he beat and also that he 'never became obsessed' with his rivals, which is so laughable a statement you barely even know where to start
and in BOTH cases this weird autobiography retconning is an attempt to control the narrative about One Specific Rival!! valentino mostly tries to erase sete entirely, apparently preferring to pretend that whole thing never happened. casey obviously CAN'T do that but he does at times talk down the importance of that rivalry - and more often what he does is talk down the EMOTIONS of it. making it this sort of blandly respectful situation between them before valentino just!! attacked casey!! UNPROVOKED for half a decade straight while casey was simply trying to live his life. but casey never really cared about valentino, he just respected him as a rider! that's the only reason why valentino annoyed him! and it's kinda like. okay but how was laguna 2008 this massive turning point where you were confronted with the darkness of human nature or whatever if you only ~sort of respected~ valentino pre-laguna? but obviously casey is motivated to talk down this whole idolisation dynamic because it's painful... he doesn't want to make it sound like he spent so much time thinking about valentino because it makes him vulnerable... and it's kinda like that for valentino with sete!! where the fact that this guy who wasn't Supposed to be valentino's challenger lived so rent free in his head and had the power to betray him is just,,, so uncomfortable, that he'd really rather pretend it hadn't happened
and the thing is. the thing is! for both of them, it's worked! their preferred narrative of those respective rivalries is low key the most accepted one! sete was never a serious challenger to valentino and can be safely discounted, valentino was just sort of a dick to casey and casey never really liked him. because they're both pretty adept at this! and they also take advantage of existing narratives in The Discourse that worked out in their favour - people were predisposed to dismiss sete, valentino had gotten a reputation for making enemies out of all of his rivals. casey's whole coming of age thing with valentino is that he also has to learn to embrace the dark arts - both on-track aggression and whispering to the media, as he has repeatedly discussed. he learned to use those skills against valentino!! he's the rival who actually stands up to valentino rhetorically and not just on the track, who's willing to go toe to toe with valentino in the press. what casey says about valentino in 2011-12 goes so WILDLY beyond what any other rival has said about valentino, quite frankly in terms of sheer frequency it quite possibly outstrips what valentino has ever done to a rival. they're the two who are most adept at trading blows in the press! where they just have these proxy wars through the media that make you go. wow every single line is a banger here. both quite poor at saying any of that to each other's faces, mind, but that adds to the charm of the rivalry
so yeah... both of these as coming of age rivalries for valentino and casey respectively... both are kinda rivalries that made them WORSE. on some level anyway. valentino gleefully coming up with multiple custom shirts to mock sete versus casey being dragged kicking and screaming to a point where he competently uses the press against valentino. hey, you even get shirt drama in both! aND crew chief drama! they've got it all! idk i just love the vibe that they've both been on a lil corruption arc... ofc the way this works is that valentino low key corrupts himself and then very much helps casey along the way - like i haven't focused on it here but obviously valentino very much gives as good as he gets in the casey rivalry lol. AND they're both obsessed to the point where they're FREAKS about it,, like valentino is SO determined to humiliate sete and casey gets SUCH a kick out of humiliating valentino that it's very... wow you little weirdos... keep going... and they're never ever going to quite move on because they still have to be Weird about the whole thing and stick to their chosen narratives... idk!! i do think these two rivalries are in conversation more than people think. to a point where it also quite helpfully showcases the similarities between valentino and casey when you use the sete rivalry as a comparison. ughhh such top tier rivalries i love them
#such a nice ask !! i am always up for talking about them ..... THE rivalries slay#right if this is unreadable just remember a sick person is writing and deserves pity#batsplat responds#agnus2718#//#brr brr#//ht#//curst#//brr brr
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I know that you don't post a lot of Danganronpa anymore but drop Ryokoto AU ideas !!
i'm still open to danganronpa convos and stuff alllll the time! just not posting about it much cuz there so much discourse (ahem ahem twitter being twitter) and the lobcorp brainrot is REAL LOL. but im always open for some good danganronpa YAOI and YURI
Graduation AU. we're starting off with a bit of angst because NOBODY can be happy in danganronpa. they get out of high school and end up going to different colleges.... but they can make it work out long-distance-relationship style! maybe instead of meeting all their friends in HS, they meet them while off at college. ryota would probably want to pursue animation, so maybe he could meet angie, hifumi, toko, sayaka,mahiru, ibuki, etc... since they all have art/music/writing related talents!
obligatory Coffee Shop AU. one of them works at a coffee shop, other one orders a coffee, things click, stuff goes down, BOOM! relationship! i wonder if it's that easy in real life....
any game/media AU! always good when you put your favourite freaks into another piece of media. imagine them as workers in lobcorp and throw them to the abnormalities! do something like ddlc or miside where one's just a virtual being obsessed with their partner! a heartbreaking squirrel stapler AU where one of them is the dead wife and the other one is the squirrel stapler themself, trying to repent for killing their partner! needy streamer overload AU where one is ame and the other takes care of her (or breaks her apart) as P-chan!!! the crossovers are ENDLESS
Post-Tragedy AU. what if there were no killing games? no future foundation? or maybe there was a period of time before those happened, where the tragedy had already been caused and everyone is just fending for themselves. i actually drafted a pretty long story about this, with ryota as the main character too! i think it would be SUPER interesting to see him interact with other characters who are COMPLETELY different from him, like the hitlist targets from UDG! and ofc angst. just because the killing game didn't happen doesn't mean it won't happen. imagine: when ryota and makoto finally find each other, one of them is taken to participate in a killing game by the remnants of despair, and the other does everything in their power to find them and save them
Apartment AU? they literally just live in different apartments, but can easily see each other from across the street/alleyway. they wave to each other, occasionally watch the other as they water a plant or feed some stray cats, but they never have the courage to actually talk to the other... at least not immediately! do you catch my drift??
Enemies to Lovers AU..... what if makoto future foundation and ryota remnant of despair? yaoi happen. turn them into BEAUFITUL GAY MEN! makoto brings remnant ryota into the ff and they're like "whose that" and he's just all "that's oomf"
anyways, we all outta ryokoto aus..... *walks away with suspiciously ryokoto-shaped lump in my throat*
#hope you enjoy these!!!#ryokoto#ryota mitarai#ryota x makoto#makoto naegi#danganronpa#danganronpa au#au#alternate universe#au idea#interrogations#danron#utsukurou
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that 1billion project is such a poor idea and the way that it’s being run feels so sinister to me sometimes…
the fact that they (armys) started it after like crazy got 1B...
Oh, absolutely. They couldn’t even let 24 hours pass after LC hit 1billion before they started on this project, like they were in a hurry to co-opt the energy for LC and have it distributed to the other members. And I think that’s because there’s a good section of ARMYs who genuinely can’t comprehend the fact that Jimin has a really large solo fanbase (I don’t even mean just solos, just anyone who casually listens to his music). I’m not sure why they thought the energy for LC would suddenly transfer to this 1billion project when overall ARMYs have just been losing energy as time goes on in CH2.
They could have started this project anytime during CH2 or after Seven hit 1billion but they literally waited until the day that LC hit that achievement because imo it feels like so many of them use Jimin and his achievements as the goal-post for the entire group.
It’s like, why are they choosing to update that 1billion projection chart suddenly during Jimin’s comeback, knowing how the quotes/comments would just be full of people being vile. IIRC they did this during SGMB too, where they literally started pushing the 1billion project hard after it had been quiet for a few weeks. They even did it during SGMB’s 1st tracking week. I understand pushing some SGMB x 1billion goal focused playlists, but why entirely try to divert the attention from a NEW song if you’re actually OT7?
Like I said, they suddenly see a lot of energy on the timeline because Jimin is releasing music and they try to co-opt it to get people to push for other members too. And I understand to a point because they just think that this is the fandom being energized, let’s take advantage of it to boost the members that need a push, but… this is solo era. And the excitement and energy for Jimin’s music is because… people are excited for Jimin’s music. There’s just something off to me about trying to use the hype for Jimin, created by Jimin (because of his consistency with releasing music that resonates with the fandom and having engaging performances) and using it for other members.
Especially when doing so has led to so much nasty discourse being AIMED at Jimin, as if all the western stans and kpop stans and akgaes and shippers going after him nonstop every day wasn't already enough. And that’s why I side-eye the main people doing this, because they should know that by pushing this project in the way that they are, it just brings hatred towards two members specifically, and in particular Jimin when it’s during his comeback. Is it really worth it, instead of just setting more manageable goals for HL and using positivity and small improvements over time to encourage ARMYs instead? Isn’t that more practical to begin with?
Mind you, I know the reason that this is being pushed so hard by some ARMYs in particular is because they want the BTS members to get the achievement of “all members of a group with one solo song reaching 1billion” before the BP members do, and that’s just… so dumb imo.
Anyways sorry this got away from me, this 1billion thing is just really driving me up a wall lately for a lot of different reasons. And I want to specify I'm talking about some of the organizers and main people behind this project and not ARMYs at large (and ANOTHER disclaimer I don't think everyone organizing/pushing this project has bad intentions).
And ofc I wish we could do better for RL, but I feel like there are SO MANY different projects we could be doing instead of whatever this is, which imo is just so counterproductive and just brings hate towards Jikook, and especially Jimin considering they keep doing this during his comebacks.
#ask#jimin#discourse#fandom#and im saying this as someone who has rpwp as their#favorite album of CH2#but maybe because i like indie/alternative music so much#i know that the numbers for those genres#will never be as high as pop#it is what it is#there are better ways to improve streams for rl#sorry for negativity#back to hyping MUSE & AYS 🫡
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how do you manage to get any followers or friends in the selfshipping community? is it just luck?
for months i’ve been trying to interact with others and follow people, engaging with stuff like ask games and hosting reblog games, but when i try to share any artwork or i reblog an ask game myself, its radio silence. like even in small discords i get ignored so bad
i don’t say this at all to be guilt tripping /gen, it’s genuine curiosity at how this stuff even works. like am i doing something wrong or is the community just like this?
here is my comprehensive and lame guide on How To Get Selfship Followers
step 1 - posting
so a lot of my posts are either kinda general or fun. folks I will not lie to you. these are all stupid shit that come to my mind on a day to day basis. for example, today, I thought, "man I'm such a loser I'm not in college like all my friends r" and then I was like "omg wait. i could make a post out of this" so I did that.
you also kinda gotta be conistent. so i try to post at least *something* everyday. even if its a reblog, tho, I don't reblog a lot of things other than ask games.
another thing with posting is that i do try to make a lot of community based content. so idk if yall remember but in the beginning of my account, I did the "things you can do if you have xyz f/o". i did like,,, I think almost 100 of those ?????? it was a lot. then I started making templates and I made some ask games and ofc I post a lot of general like,,, imagine stuff. oh also polls. people seem to enjoy polls.
step 2 - be positive
this is the big thing. as most of yall (hopefully) know, I do not fw proshippers !! but I don't talk about discourse unless its directly brought up. not only this, I put a big focus on just,,, being nice idk. like id like to think I'm a pretty down to earth person.
if you make a template and people tag you in it, say something nice! reply to peoples art, send in asks, things like that. i try to do my part in being nice. i also just like hearing about peoples selfships.
when people post promos and have the little "rb to be moots", reblog! when you come across someone having a bad day, maybe they made a vent or something, reply with a simple "I hope you feel better <3" or "your f/o loves you <3". things like that, ya know?
step 3 - have fun
genuinely. i post as much as i do because I like it. i didn't go into this thinking "oh... yea... I'm gonna get selfship famous..." like no I just wanna ramble somewhere bc none of my close irls r selfshippers.
you wont get popular or get followers because you grind out posts. literally one of my biggest posts on this account I wrote while I was half asleep one night and wanted to test out queuing on my account.
and in that regard, it is partially luck. i don't control what posts people do and don't like. sometimes I write up imagines and no one sees them. sometimes I write up a post saying "lol go kiss your fake boyfriend ooo smoochie smoochie" and that does numbers
step 4 - interaction
im only in two servers. one server (which was the first public server I think I ever joined ???? i could be wrong tho,,, bad memory blehg) that I don't own and then my own 18+ server. i don't think being in servers does anything,,, considering I'm only in one that isn't mine. i think its more like ,,, sticking to one or two places ?? like just being consistently in an area you're comfortable in.
i guess you gotta just find the right people ??? and like I mentioned, be friendly, but ya know. also I guess tags too? idk if you look at any of my regular posts I have 8 million tags on them. idk if that actually does anything or not because its kinda hit or miss sometimes.
i was gonna say something else but i forgot. see look listen I dunno how I got here but this is what I do ,,,, effectively nothing. also with the being kind thing, maybe this is how I am bc I'm pagan but I think that if you expect kindness back you wont get anything. sometimes its just nice to be nice. eventually you gain a reputation for being a nice person. you kinda have to not want that tho? like I don't see myself as particularly like ,,, super kind ,,,??? i just do what feels right.
step 5 - uhhhh idk im just rambling now
i guess i also went into this kinda like. damn sometimes this community is a cesspool of absolute meanie pants. i don't wanna be a Meanie Pants and just post my thoughts and the things I think about. i guess how I see it too is, I kinda like ? idk I think all these things anyways why not post them? kinda feels like a waste not to.
also ive been told my posts are pretty recognizable bc of how I format them ? my dividers and such. also tagging all of my imagines and stuff with my 🥀📜 emojis. i guess that helps too? because that's how I recognize certain accounts. "like oh there's them I recognize their dividers and their tags".
also you kinda gotta like,,, not let hate get to you. like have fun with it? i know that's hard, but, that's what you gotta do. when I get printer ink (bc. a hoe does NOT like buying printer ink) im printing out that fucking 8 mile long hate message I got sent. but also that's just the kinda person I am. like people being a dick and stealing my posts and telling me to swallow a glock 9mm doesn't upset me, im more like,, confused more than anything because never in my life have I ever sent hate to anyone. also I have had this "I do not care because you're some loser on the internet and you being an ass wipe is no where near as bad as the shit people have done to me irl" attitude.
TLDR; i dont think youre doing anything wrong because I don't exactly know what I'm doing right. i just... do... and sometimes, "just doing" is enough. maybe its luck, maybe I've been blessed by the tumblr algorithm and I've somehow figured it out, or maybe the community is just genuinely that bad and they pick favorites. maybe its all of the above! who knows. i try not to worry about it. i think at the end of the day, as long as you're having fun posting about your f/os and selfshipping, that's what matters.
alright thats all see ya. if you have any more questions feel free to ask however I fear I cannot answer them </3
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Thank you for standing with transmascs!
I've had to unfollow a lot of transfemmes who's blogs I used to like because they started posting hateful and exusionist rhetoric targeted at transmascs, as well as nonbinary people who were afab.
It also sucks because I try to talk about transmisogyny and reblog posts about it but I literally can't go in that tag anymore without being triggered because it's full of other trans people literally calling people like me slurs.
Yeah no its genuinely so frustrating and i keep seeing it more and more from ppl who have been otherwise completely reasonable!!! But yes ofc i dont like. Post discourse stuff here often but i really felt i needed to say something bc this stuff is showing up on my dash near daily now and im SOOO sick of it. Same sorta rhetoric ppl used to use to bully me for being bigender
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I find your blog very interesting. Would you say that these blackpillers are organized trolls to sew in discourse? I have actual radfem mutuals who believe these women are actual radfems and aren't trolls and fall for the lie that straight women / bisexual women are being harassed off of radblr.
I've also noticed they tend to privatize their account / delete and remake when they start to realise people are catching on. Have you noticed this too?
well thank you
and no, i know some are women, because i knew them before they went completely off the rails, such as @radfemcroatia and @whitemoonselena9b4t who was the first person i argued with when i joined radblr.
i remember that bc i said to her: "i know you must be like 15 or so and you're very smart for your age, but you're wrong" and then she went: "I'm 50 and this is ageist" "WHAT!"
some of them WERE radfems who found a way to dignify their internalized misogyny.
its just spite and hatred, so when people undermine the arguments I say "how many people usually end up in the hospital over tumblr discourse?" Tumblr communication isn't real, but sexism is, which is why its easy to see why even women can fall for it.
ofc they do lie about the straight women. i have yet to see an actual example of an osa women say the thing s they claim (outside of them pretending to be one in anons)
But i have noticed what youre saying and i can completely understand where you're coming from. for instance, radfemcroatia with several other accounts came back, not to mention the bots.
For some of the blackpillers? They act just like fungaljungal /anti-terf-association.
Just yesterday i had a post with NO TAGS other than #blackpillfeminism but i saw an account with gore and pedophilia on it start commenting about the "hypocrisy of women" as well as commenting under specifically anti blackpiller accounts.
i mean one of the blackpillers literally is a child sex offender. Who was invited and checked into their community.
But sometimes, even though i know for a fact this attract real women, i look at the post calling for women to commit mass suicide if they're feminists and i lose hope altogether. I never stop trying to get them back, because it seems like the few of them who are actually women have been manipulated by a sexist and myopic telegonic pseudoscientific rhetoric that they turn to feel "not like other girls"
which i hate to use that term, i really do, and i never did because that term seems like a derogatory term, now, that women use to put other women down for not wanting to conform. Not to mention its also perpetrated by victims of misogyny who want to separate themselves from a binary, but in this case, it is so extreme and blatant and spiteful that i have no other word to call it.
they call other women "low iq subhumans" but they refer to themselves a the progenitors of liberation because they are self-aware of "how stupid women truly are."
they repeat the idea both in implication and in candid that they are "biologically superior to "foids" and that "foid" isn't just a derogatory term towards women, but to a 'breed' of human. one that is "lower class" and "genetically inferior" someone who is a "slave to their DNA" being that they are "inclined to only comprehend the lizard part of their brain". And that, despite what they may see with their 2 eyes, these women are NOT like them, and don't deserve kindness or sympathy.
Despite believing they are genetically advantaged than "normal" woman, they are still victims of misogyny in the end, but the hurt they cause for others, mentally and physically, makes me think that this "coping mechanism" which requires the mental gymnastics of the Olympics in order to justify a tin-foil hat conspiracy just to justify the bias they have towards women.
I think in many ways their ego cannot live without it, keeping in mind that these women have all dated men and are embarrassed by how they were with them.
every woman was the victim of internalized misogyny at one point, although this is certainly the most extreme case I saw. And though it's true that they're victims- the women they're distinguishing as "low IQ subhuman who asked for rape" - don't have the luxury to be the kind of victim that the women in these communities are.
They don't want to feel vulnerable, but i won't stop trying to pull them back in, although its disheartening, not just death threats i receive, but its disheartening because the more i try, the more they double down.
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