#pro-AI... anti-“AI”

[djzazzles]

Absolutely agree with all the above and strongly appreciate the misquoting of "AI", haha.

But in all seriousness, the most disappointing thing for me is that the proliferation of technology and Artificial intelligence has always been an inevitability, and if you look back just a few years ago the public perception towards it was actually pretty damn positive. (I mean, why wouldn't you want the technology to continue evolving?) The problem in my view is that the tech bros and big corporations absolutely fucked over the entirety of the internet and turned it into a slop-infested minefield of dogshit content that is only promoted by the people who benefit the most from it, so the anti-"AI" crowd has a totally valid reason to hate the current proliferation of the tech. But my problem with the Anti-"AI" view is that if we go too far down the rabbit hole of revolting against the technology, we may lose sight of our priorities and inadvertently stop desiring both evolution & increased accessibility in technology. Not all AI artists or people who use ChatGPT or analyze & manage data with LLMs are a bunch of loser dregs who want to destroy society; alot of them are just aligning on a new wavelength of evolution out of pure scientific curiosity paired with a desire to convey their artistic or emotional messages more clearly. But you can't be scientifically-minded or drawn to modern technology when every bro on the internet is becoming successful by spewing narcissistic hate to fulfill their own personal greed. If this was Star Trek or some shit and money simply did not exist then the business-minded incentives to hog & infect the social media algorithms would also simply not exist. The problem we face is not the existence of Artificial Intelligence, but the fact that the people with the control over it have no morals left inside the hollow corporate shells they call their "souls".

I think there's direct proof of this: If you look at a country like Japan, where harmony and progression is prioritized over profit, greed and self-worth, you'll see that the public perception and usage of AI is trending in a much more positive direction than in the west.

I truly hope that we can figure out what in the fuck we're trying to do as a society, and regulate the technology to ensure that is being used in a way that doesn't totally annihilate the population. Technology always has to keep evolving, and AI is part of that, but it could be null and void if tech bros like Steven Cymatics can label "AI" as a 'cool party trick' while not understanding how heavily it impacts EVERYTHING.

keep fightin' the madness fam

Whats your stance on A.I.?

imagine if it was 1979 and you asked me this question. "i think artificial intelligence would be fascinating as a philosophical exercise, but we must heed the warnings of science-fictionists like Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke lest we find ourselves at the wrong end of our own invented vengeful god." remember how fun it used to be to talk about AI even just ten years ago? ahhhh skynet! ahhhhh replicants! ahhhhhhhmmmfffmfmf [<-has no mouth and must scream]!

like everything silicon valley touches, they sucked all the fun out of it. and i mean retroactively, too. because the thing about "AI" as it exists right now --i'm sure you know this-- is that there's zero intelligence involved. the product of every prompt is a statistical average based on data made by other people before "AI" "existed." it doesn't know what it's doing or why, and has no ability to understand when it is lying, because at the end of the day it is just a really complicated math problem. but people are so easily fooled and spooked by it at a glance because, well, for one thing the tech press is mostly made up of sycophantic stenographers biding their time with iphone reviews until they can get a consulting gig at Apple. these jokers would write 500 breathless thinkpieces about how canned air is the future of living if the cans had embedded microchips that tracked your breathing habits and had any kind of VC backing. they've done SUCH a wretched job educating The Consumer about what this technology is, what it actually does, and how it really works, because that's literally the only way this technology could reach the heights of obscene economic over-valuation it has: lying.

but that's old news. what's really been floating through my head these days is how half a century of AI-based science fiction has set us up to completely abandon our skepticism at the first sign of plausible "AI-ness". because, you see, in movies, when someone goes "AHHH THE AI IS GONNA KILL US" everyone else goes "hahaha that's so silly, we put a line in the code telling them not to do that" and then they all DIE because they weren't LISTENING, and i'll be damned if i go out like THAT! all the movies are about how cool and convenient AI would be *except* for the part where it would surely come alive and want to kill us. so a bunch of tech CEOs call their bullshit algorithms "AI" to fluff up their investors and get the tech journos buzzing, and we're at an age of such rapid technological advancement (on the surface, anyway) that like, well, what the hell do i know, maybe AGI is possible, i mean 35 years ago we were all still using typewriters for the most part and now you can dictate your words into a phone and it'll transcribe them automatically! yeah, i'm sure those technological leaps are comparable!

so that leaves us at a critical juncture of poor technology education, fanatical press coverage, and an uncertain material reality on the part of the user. the average person isn't entirely sure what's possible because most of the people talking about what's possible are either lying to please investors, are lying because they've been paid to, or are lying because they're so far down the fucking rabbit hole that they actually believe there's a brain inside this mechanical Turk. there is SO MUCH about the LLM "AI" moment that is predatory-- it's trained on data stolen from the people whose jobs it was created to replace; the hype itself is an investment fiction to justify even more wealth extraction ("theft" some might call it); but worst of all is how it meets us where we are in the worst possible way.

consumer-end "AI" produces slop. it's garbage. it's awful ugly trash that ought to be laughed out of the room. but we don't own the room, do we? nor the building, nor the land it's on, nor even the oxygen that allows our laughter to travel to another's ears. our digital spaces are controlled by the companies that want us to buy this crap, so they take advantage of our ignorance. why not? there will be no consequences to them for doing so. already social media is dominated by conspiracies and grifters and bigots, and now you drop this stupid technology that lets you fake anything into the mix? it doesn't matter how bad the results look when the platforms they spread on already encourage brief, uncritical engagement with everything on your dash. "it looks so real" says the woman who saw an "AI" image for all of five seconds on her phone through bifocals. it's a catastrophic combination of factors, that the tech sector has been allowed to go unregulated for so long, that the internet itself isn't a public utility, that everything is dictated by the whims of executives and advertisers and investors and payment processors, instead of, like, anybody who actually uses those platforms (and often even the people who MAKE those platforms!), that the age of chromium and ipad and their walled gardens have decimated computer education in public schools, that we're all desperate for cash at jobs that dehumanize us in a system that gives us nothing and we don't know how to articulate the problem because we were very deliberately not taught materialist philosophy, it all comes together into a perfect storm of ignorance and greed whose consequences we will be failing to fully appreciate for at least the next century. we spent all those years afraid of what would happen if the AI became self-aware, because deep down we know that every capitalist society runs on slave labor, and our paper-thin guilt is such that we can't even imagine a world where artificial slaves would fail to revolt against us.

but the reality as it exists now is far worse. what "AI" reveals most of all is the sheer contempt the tech sector has for virtually all labor that doesn't involve writing code (although most of the decision-making evangelists in the space aren't even coders, their degrees are in money-making). fuck graphic designers and concept artists and secretaries, those obnoxious demanding cretins i have to PAY MONEY to do-- i mean, do what exactly? write some words on some fucking paper?? draw circles that are letters??? send a god-damned email???? my fucking KID could do that, and these assholes want BENEFITS?! they say they're gonna form a UNION?!?! to hell with that, i'm replacing ALL their ungrateful asses with "AI" ASAP. oh, oh, so you're a "director" who wants to make "movies" and you want ME to pay for it? jump off a bridge you pretentious little shit, my computer can dream up a better flick than you could ever make with just a couple text prompts. what, you think just because you make ~music~ that that entitles you to money from MY pocket? shut the fuck up, you don't make """art""", you're not """an artist""", you make fucking content, you're just a fucking content creator like every other ordinary sap with an iphone. you think you're special? you think you deserve special treatment? who do you think you are anyway, asking ME to pay YOU for this crap that doesn't even create value for my investors? "culture" isn't a playground asshole, it's a marketplace, and it's pay to win. oh you "can't afford rent"? you're "drowning in a sea of medical debt"? you say the "cost" of "living" is "too high"? well ***I*** don't have ANY of those problems, and i worked my ASS OFF to get where i am, so really, it sounds like you're just not trying hard enough. and anyway, i don't think someone as impoverished as you is gonna have much of value to contribute to "culture" anyway. personally, i think it's time you got yourself a real job. maybe someday you'll even make it to middle manager!

see, i don't believe "AI" can qualitatively replace most of the work it's being pitched for. the problem is that quality hasn't mattered to these nincompoops for a long time. the rich homunculi of our world don't even know what quality is, because they exist in a whole separate reality from ours. what could a banana cost, $15? i don't understand what you mean by "burnout", why don't you just take a vacation to your summer home in Madrid? wow, you must be REALLY embarrassed wearing such cheap shoes in public. THESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING UNHINGED! they have no connection to reality, do not understand how society functions on a material basis, and they have nothing but spite for the labor they rely on to survive. they are so instinctually, incessantly furious at the idea that they're not single-handedly responsible for 100% of their success that they would sooner tear the entire world down than willingly recognize the need for public utilities or labor protections. they want to be Gods and they want to be uncritically adored for it, but they don't want to do a single day's work so they begrudgingly pay contractors to do it because, in the rich man's mind, paying a contractor is literally the same thing as doing the work yourself. now with "AI", they don't even have to do that! hey, isn't it funny that every single successful tech platform relies on volunteer labor and independent contractors paid substantially less than they would have in the equivalent industry 30 years ago, with no avenues toward traditional employment? and they're some of the most profitable companies on earth?? isn't that a funny and hilarious coincidence???

so, yeah, that's my stance on "AI". LLMs have legitimate uses, but those uses are a drop in the ocean compared to what they're actually being used for. they enable our worst impulses while lowering the quality of available information, they give immense power pretty much exclusively to unscrupulous scam artists. they are the product of a society that values only money and doesn't give a fuck where it comes from. they're a temper tantrum by a ruling class that's sick of having to pretend they need a pretext to steal from you. they're taking their toys and going home. all this massive investment and hype is going to crash and burn leaving the internet as we know it a ruined and useless wasteland that'll take decades to repair, but the investors are gonna make out like bandits and won't face a single consequence, because that's what this country is. it is a casino for the kings and queens of economy to bet on and manipulate at their discretion, where the rules are whatever the highest bidder says they are-- and to hell with the rest of us. our blood isn't even good enough to grease the wheels of their machine anymore.

i'm not afraid of AI or "AI" or of losing my job to either. i'm afraid that we've so thoroughly given up our morals to the cruel logic of the profit motive that if a better world were to emerge, we would reject it out of sheer habit. my fear is that these despicable cunts already won the war before we were even born, and the rest of our lives are gonna be spent dodging the press of their designer boots.

(read more "AI" opinions in this subsequent post)

[inkskinned]

i have chronic pain. i am neurodivergent. i understand - deeply - the allure of a "quick fix" like AI. i also just grew up in a different time. we have been warned about this.

15 entire years ago i heard about this. in my forensics class in high school, we watched a documentary about how AI-based "crime solving" software was inevitably biased against people of color.

my teacher stressed that AI is like a book: when someone writes it, some part of the author will remain within the result. the internet existed but not as loudly at that point - we didn't know that AI would be able to teach itself off already-biased Reddit threads. i googled it: yes, this bias is still happening. yes, it's just as bad if not worse.

i can't actually stop you. if you wanna use ChatGPT to slide through your classes, that's on you. it's your money and it's your time. you will spend none of it thinking, you will learn nothing, and, in college, you will piss away hundreds of thousands of dollars. you will stand at the podium having done nothing, accomplished nothing. a cold and bitter pyrrhic victory.

i'm not even sure students actually read the essays or summaries or emails they have ChatGPT pump out. i think it just flows over them and they use the first answer they get. my brother teaches engineering - he recently got fifty-three copies of almost-the-exact-same lab reports. no one had even changed the wording.

and yes: AI itself (as a concept and practice) isn't always evil. there's AI that can help detect cancer, for example. and yet: when i ask my students if they'd be okay with a doctor that learned from AI, many of them balk. it is one thing if they don't read their engineering textbook or if they don't write the critical-thinking essay. it's another when it starts to affect them. they know it's wrong for AI to broad-spectrum deny insurance claims, but they swear their use of AI is different.

there's a strange desire to sort of divorce real-world AI malpractice over "personal use". for example, is it moral to use AI to write your cover letters? cover letters are essentially only templates, and besides: AI is going to be reading your job app, so isn't it kind of fair?

i recently found out that people use AI as a romantic or sexual partner. it seems like teenagers particularly enjoy this connection, and this is one of those "sticky" moments as a teacher. honestly - you can roast me for this - but if it was an actually-safe AI, i think teenagers exploring their sexuality with a fake partner is amazing. it prevents them from making permanent mistakes, it can teach them about their bodies and their desires, and it can help their confidence. but the problem is that it's not safe. there isn't a well-educated, sensitive AI specifically to help teens explore their hormones. it's just internet-fed cycle. who knows what they're learning. who knows what misinformation they're getting.

the most common pushback i get involves therapy. none of us have access to the therapist of our dreams - it's expensive, elusive, and involves an annoying amount of insurance claims. someone once asked me: are you going to be mad when AI saves someone's life?

therapists are not just trained on the book, they're trained on patient management and helping you see things you don't see yourself. part of it will involve discomfort. i don't know that AI is ever going to be able to analyze the words you feed it and answer with a mind towards the "whole person" writing those words. but also - if it keeps/kept you alive, i'm not a purist. i've done terrible things to myself when i was at rock bottom. in an emergency, we kind of forgive the seatbelt for leaving bruises. it's just that chat shouldn't be your only form of self-care and recovery.

and i worry that the influence chat has is expanding. more and more i see people use chat for the smallest, most easily-navigated situations. and i can't like, make you worry about that in your own life. i often think about how easy it was for social media to take over all my time - how i can't have a tiktok because i spend hours on it. i don't want that to happen with chat. i want to enjoy thinking. i want to enjoy writing. i want to be here. i've already really been struggling to put the phone down. this feels like another way to get you to pick the phone up.

the other day, i was frustrated by a book i was reading. it's far in the series and is about a character i resent. i googled if i had to read it, or if it was one of those "in between" books that don't actually affect the plot (you know, one of those ".5" books). someone said something that really stuck with me - theoretically you're reading this series for enjoyment, so while you don't actually have to read it, one would assume you want to read it.

i am watching a generation of people learn they don't have to read the thing in their hand. and it is kind of a strange sort of doom that comes over me: i read because it's genuinely fun. i learn because even though it's hard, it feels good. i try because it makes me happy to try. and i'm watching a generation of people all lay down and say: but i don't want to try.

[storycraftcafe]

Did I just unsubscribe from a writer I've been following for years because they advocated for using AI? You fucking bet.

They suggest it's use as a tool, citing writers who hesitated to jump on the internet being left behind and I think that displays a rather big misunderstanding of the nature of problem.

Their point was gen AI can "help us think" but there's growing studies show us that it does anything but. Here's one paper on skill atrophy from AI use. There's more than a few of them plus some articles like this one from Forbes. Essentially using AI for a particular skill shows degradation in thelat skill.

Fact is brainstorming, research, analysis. Planning, outlining, writing, editing are ALL skills writers need to develop and practise. Not offload to a machine and surrender critical thought.

These skills are vital and transferrable to other aspects of our lives. My ability to critically examine a body of text to parse meaning works in enjoying fiction and digging through mixed messages in news and on social media. My ability to research and develop ideas from multiple sources also helps me fact check misinformation online.

These skills are so important, too important to cast aside for convenience.

I'd rather use my brain and do the work. Maybe ai will shift and better tools will arise, but I have put too much work into developing my skills to be content with the half assed result of the plagiarism machine.

Fuck that.

[sydaney-foxay]

Ykw, I'm curious.

Please answer honestly and truthfully.

PLEASE REBLOG FOR SAMPLE SIZE

[nando161mando]

With Firefox having AI added in the recent update. Here's how you can disable it.

Open about:config in your browser.Accept the Warning it gives.Search browser.ml and blank all values and set false where necessary as shown in the screenshot, anything that requires a numerical string can be set as 0 .Once you restart you should no longer see the Grey-ed out checkbox checked, and the AI chatbot disabled from ever functioning.

[starryroe]

60k notes. 60k notes that say fuck people with anxiety. 60k notes that say people with dpd should just learn to do things themselves. 60k notes that say that it should be allowed, no, encouraged to make fun of someone for being unable to do something just because the cool kids find it easy. y'all fucking hate disabled people but can't say that so you will just find any excuse to be bullies to people randomly. oh they're lazy. oh they're annoying. oh they can't do something so basic. but don't worry you're different! I'm not talking about you!!! I'm just talking about people who don't have an excuse!!!! fuck y'all for real for real.

[sailorstarr-chan4]

A fanfic is not abandoned until the author decides it is; do not assume otherwise, even if the last update was months ago

A fanfic is not abandoned until the author decides it is; do not assume otherwise, even if the last update was a year ago

A fanfic is not abandoned until the author decides it is; do not assume otherwise, even if the last update was five years ago

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[theflikchic]

Just saying, if you're a Snape blog and have AI pictures of Snape posted, you're either getting blocked or I will never click your blog. AI is not only horrifically brutal to the environment but using the image Alan Rickman - a deceased man - for softcore porn is nasty and disrespectful.

[venonomnomicon]

Fire Emblem lyn starts 1 tile further to the left on the prologue now

Hi everyone. I hear what you've all said about AI art and its laziness, lack of imagination, etc. And I've decided I agree. I now believe there is, fundamentally, an intrinsic difference within the mechanisms of copyright that seperates human-made and AI-made art. To prove it, here is my magnum opus ROM hack for Fire Emblem 7 (USA)

While I absolutely did not put more effort into this than the average prompt engineer, I do believe that by infusing it with my Human Soul, Sacred Artistic Intent, and Divine Feminine Energy, it elevates it beyond anything that any neural network could ever spit out. This holy energy will serve as my shield, protecting me from any potential lawsuits etc for copyright infringement as Nintendo will surely respect my artistic intent and the spirit I have imbued within this project.

INSTRUCTIONS:

Download the .ips patch file here

Acquire a .gba ROM file for the USA / Australia release of Fire Emblem 7. As fellow copyright / artistic integrity enthusiasts, I trust you will all respect the original artists and acquire this ROM file through the use of a real purchased copy of the game that you use a physical USB based cart reader to extract onto your PC. I recommend GBxCart RW for this.

Download LunarIPS or any similar ROM patcher.

Using LunarIPS, apply the patch file to the ROM.

Enjoy the power of human artistic expression!

[nicktremblaywayfu]

Anyway friendly reminder fellow outlasters : We support artist and we are all against generative AI here ! Especially AI generated stolen art

I found someone in the fandom that pro-AI and say something like this so please use this post to promote your commission in the reblog or comment !

[jisreal64]

You know, I find it very annoying that artists, animators, actors, writers, and a bunch of other people bitch and whine about how much they hate generative AI and want it in its entirety to be banned and criminalized while at the same time loving stuff that either humanizes AI or portrays it in a positive light, like Murder Drones, The Wild Robot, Futurama, Detroit Become Human, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Star Wars, and Free Guy; as well as talking about how much they love and/or fetishize ai characters like T-800, HAL 9000, and Ultron; and how they support robotkins and AIkins; like, my sibling in Christ, NO YOU DO NOT!!! If characters like Roz, Wall•E, Karen Plankton, Jenny Wakeman, C-P30, B.E.N, BMO, and Uzi Doorman were real, you would not be friends with them, nor would they be your waifu/husbando/babygirl, YOU WOULD BE ACTIVELY ADVOCATING FOR THEIR SEGREGATION AND/OR EXTERMINATION DUE TO THEM TAKING YOUR JOBS AND USING TOO MUCH WATER!!!

[gentil-minou]

This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard

I can't think of any hobby more wallet friendly than picking up a pencil and paper. Like this is just plain stupid.

Also, I'm not an artist and I don't have drawings skills, but sometimes I paint little watercolors for myself and I have fun even though they look awful, and that's the entire point.

Also also, since I can't draw and I still want to share my ideas, I write. And yeah it takes practice but THATS THE POINT. There's so many genuine ways you can share your ideas with the world.

Hell, model with clay, act out a dumb video, draw stick figures, do whatever. I promise all of that is a better rendition than a program that isn't actually intelligent and is just giving you results based on keywords like a glorified search engine

Just say you want recognition for something you stole and didn't care enough to put the effort in and shut up

[nebby-the-protogen]

can't believe i need to say this but oh well: ai is not theft, intellectual property is a lie. plain and simple, i'm not gonna talk about how it ACTUALLY works because y'all won't hear me. IP is an inherently capitalist idea with no foundation in ethics, it's a legal delusion. that only restricts art, not protect it. it is not an ecological disaster, all data centers are costly, if you wanna return to the preindustrial ages, sure, but don't single this out. it is not a tool of facism, i literally cannot counter this one since it's so fucking ridiculous it is not "objectivley not art", that's what they say about every new artform, and what FACISTS say about what they don't like. conceptual artists are still artists. that's what they are, ai art isn't illustration or writing, it's a more elaborate form of taping fruit to walls. it stops being "silly" for them to call themselves artists when you view it as conceptual art rather than representational. it won't "kill the arts" because nothing ever will, people will make, fully manually, because they can. whether they're being hired or not. art needs not incentive, it IS incentive. and before you say "wHy DoN't YoU eXpEcT yOuR pLuMbEr To Do It FoR fReE oUt Of PaSsIoN, wHy Do YoU pAy ThEm????!!!!" because plumbing is a manual service and art is inherent to the human condition. art is not a service. boo hoo people won't pay fifty dollars for commission meme format (which no one ever though of doing until you whined about ash baby) , art isn't dead, YOUR "art" is dead. if you really need to join in with the angry mob to hate a new thing, find better material. yes it looks like shit nine times out of ten, but that one time also matters. and yes, i HAVE picked up a pencil, i am extremely passionate about learning to draw and i've gotten quite far. no i am not a singularity bro. i'm just seriously dissapointed in y'all. i used to be part of your side, I WAS TELLING PEOPLE TO PICK UP PENCILS, i was just genuinely convinced by the other side; granted i was anti-ip and pro esoteric art forms long before ai soooo.

[renjihoe]

No shut up Ichigo’s outfit making a red heart as he is in pain thinking about Rukia. THIS IS FORESHADOWING!!! (I know I’m dramatic lmao I do not care!!!)

[smilingformoney]

Snapedom can we as a collective please agree to quit with the uncanny valley AI art and pay artists instead like god intended

[thelemmallama]

btw, it's not solely AI users who dislike the (old fashioned) process of creation. It's practically a meme that writers hate writing! And you often get people being like "if you don't enjoy writing, just don't do it", but that's completely missing the point. People have things that they want expressed; part of themselves which they wish was visible and understood; and the fact that they find the process of writing or drawing unenjoyable doesn't change that. But now that AI is a thing, it feels like a lot of those very same people are now doing a 180 and insisting that they love the process of writing and drawing; indeed, that enjoying the process is the whole point! (tbh it's probably not the very same people; it just feels like it because of the goomba fallacy)

I sincerely doubt a lot of people who claim to enjoy writing or drawing actually experiences pleasure from the process most of the time. Rather, I suspect they enjoy the satisfaction of being able to point to something and say "I made this". The pain, the struggle, the blood, sweat and tears, the years of dragging themselves to their desks each day to practice is not enjoyable, but it gives them meaning. This is why they accuse AI users of thinking that "typing in a prompt makes them an artist"; they're projecting their own motives onto us, so they can only conclude we're self-deceivers, satisfied with saying "I made this" when our process was but an empty mockery of the meaningful struggle they engaged in.

I kind of get that. If I'm being honest with myself, there is a part of me that wants to be the One To Make It. If someone independently comes up with the story I'm writing and executes the themes in a satisfying way that would be hard for me to surpass, a part of me would be a bit sad I won't get to be the first to make something like that. But a much bigger part of me would go "finally!", squee and become the #1 fan of the work that has finally said what I've always wanted to say my whole life.

I choose to embrace that second part of myself. I just want this vision I have to be realized, no matter how it comes to be. And I won't let my ego stand in the way.