#skeleton crew speculations

[sketchnskribbles]

just watched episode 5: *spoilers below*

(I’m also going to now cont this on my art blog. I feel it fits better here, since I’ll be drawing for this show soon enough)

My main theory for Jod/Silvo/whatever-his-name-is (he gets a new one each episode we see him. It’s very old school pirate/outlaw of him. Kudos):

He is an ex-Padawan of the Jedi Order. (Honestly, I think I’ll be incredibly disappointed if he isn’t. It just makes sense to me.)

Reason 1: Openly uses the Force

At first I thought it was exactly as Fern suspected: that he was using some sort of “magic” trick to fool them into believing he was a Jedi. Which is still partially true. Initially I believed it was magnets. Either hidden in his clothing or installed into his body, like a cyborg. Capable of manipulating the electronics/metal around him. Like a makeshift Magneto. Which I thought (and still think) would be extremely cool. And would provide a new and interesting set of skills within the galaxy.

But now that we are in Ep 5. I’m starting to truly think that he does have the force.

He uses the force regularly with a clear familiarity that only those who were trained very young could manage (unless they’re prodigy/incredibly high Midi count, in Luke’s case).

And now he uses the force for his benefit. He has the training of a padawan and the mindset of a boy that was raised amongst pirate. A Captain Jack of the Star Wars universe. Internally built in morals but a pessimistic outlook on life in the galaxy.

Reason 2: No Attachments

He gave the “no attachments” talk to Wim in ep 5 (and this is the reason why my theory of him being a Jedi solidified in my mind, over the magnets theory). Albeit, he gave it in a less-Jedi way. Which is to be expected after surviving the genocide of his people (provided he is a remnant of the Order). He basically told him (I’m merely summing it up) that the attachments would diverge him from his direction in life. He should “forget his parents” because “he (Jod) did and he’s /doing great!/“ (a huge lie if there was ever one).

Honestly, his little one-to-one talk with Wim really provided some insight into his mindset. And having him specifically say something along the lines of “you need to forget your attachments. All of them. They’ll just slow you down”. It’s one thing to just say “forget your parents”. Which a character like his would say. It’s a whole different meaning for a character in Star Wars to say “forget your attachments to your parents”.

That was a big ole hint to me, tbh.

If his character truly does hold a Jedi past. Then Jod isn’t saying to “stop loving your parents”. He’s saying “You just need to let go of them.”

I doubt he stopped loving the Master he once had. Or the padawan friends/siblings of his age group. In fact, his love for them would be the reason he is such a hurting man as we now know him now.

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On the topic of attachments:

I adore the thought of the Jedi teachings of no attachments leading to a people unable to properly live. Because every being that grew up under the Order’s tutelage we’re not at all well adjusted.

Obiwan: didn’t know how to cope after the loss of his first attachment (Quigon), except to latch onto the last remnant of him (Anakin). He also didn’t know how to cope the loss of his second attachment (Anakin), except to watch his remnants (Luke and Leia) from afar.

No longer willing to get to know and attach to them, too. Fearing even more loss. Giving in to being a hermit in the desert because it would (assumably) hurt less. Haunted by the ghosts of his past.

Obiwan didn’t know how to go through the process of grief and properly let go. Because he was taught to never even love another being on an intimate (romantic or platonic) level in the first place.

So, then, how could he ever learn how to properly grieve and move forward?

Anakin: Refused to give up his attachments. Unwilling to give in to the Jedi rule about not latching on to people that he chose to love.

He gripped so tightly to his people in fear of losing them. A fact that Palpatine utilized to groom and isolate him away from everyone anyways.

Anakin, too, could not learn to let go. He didn’t know how to move forward after loss either.

With Obiwan, his love for his older brother/father-figure turned to an obsessive hate (and there is a very fine line between love and hate). With Padme, his love for her was fierce, yet possessive. He could not ever think of losing her and even went against his own ideals and morals in order to “save” her. Not realizing that it was his own actions that lost her until it was too late. With Ahsoka, he didn’t know how to cope with her leaving him other than to meditate with her lightsabers everyday and pray that she returned to him. With Shmi, he lost her in his arms after she was tortured to death and turned around to slaughter the very people that took her from him. With an internal promise that he would never lose another loved one again.

Anakin, too, unable to learn how to grieve and move forward.

Both Obiwan and Anakin “sacrificed” themselves “for Luke”. (I could get into this bag of worms of: Neither of them realizing that giving themselves up for a situation that could have easily not lead to their deaths, resulted in leaving Luke alone in a world that hated his kind. Because both selfishly wished for the end, but then we would be here all day).

Ahsoka: still has not learned how to grieve and move forward. Which is causing pain to her current friends and family. By holding them all at arms length. Unable to cope with the loss of her own brother/father-figure to the darkside. Now afraid that she would follow his same path if she allowed herself to “attach” herself to someone else, not realizing yet she already has.

Cal (please keep in mind I haven’t finished Survivor. My system keeps crashing… I got to Greev’s bar and that’s it 😤): Is unable to yearn for the loss of his new-found family and crew. Wishing for all of them to be within the confines of his ship and going on adventures with him. Not realizing that they aren’t “gone” and they haven’t “forgotten him”. Their lives have simply gone on to different paths, their bonds no less strong, and yet he now keeps them at arms length because the physical distance for some reason crippled him emotionally. Plus, something obviously happened that I am not yet aware of.

And now Jod: He has internally accepted “no attachments” to the point that he just simply doesn’t try. The more we learn about his past relationships, the more you can tell how much he internalized it. Now we get to see him unwillingly bond with these children now under his care. I can only hope that he can succeed in learning what it is to be truly loved and also how to love.

I just finished watching Episode 4 of The Skeleton Crew and I now have some new theories! *spoilers below*

Theory 1: At Achran was once exactly like At Attin. Perhaps every single one of the hidden planets were once exactly like At Attin, but since we only know of the two planets we’ll just be staying with them for this post.

I’m thinking that At Achran had been just as preserved as At Attin but some kind of disagreement or someone filled with greed for power of some kind caused the planet’s society to destabilize. Especially when General Strix was presented as the “true leader” of their planet. Suggesting a previous and current power struggle. Though I get the feeling that Strix is happy to sit back and enjoy his position of power while others do his job for him. This situation felt to me that both sides have devolved into being unable to think beyond the pettiness of each other.

Theory 2: At Attin and all of the other planets are experiments similar to Fallout’s Vaults. Where some dubious group or groups decided to find (I think it was seven or eight pillars in the tower of ep 4?) 7-8 planets to create the same type of society, and then set each planet a different set of instructions/forced something to happen in order to study what would be the effect.

While it is likely by some sus section of the Republic, I wonder if maybe it could have been created by a different faction entirely? Perhaps the as far back as the Eternal Empire? Or maybe further forward where it was an experiment created by a newly christened Empire in its early years?

The Skeleton Crew has been so amazing. I’ve been having an absolute blast! Whoever came together to write this, clearly knows Star Wars and what they want tell with their story. I am in love with all the characters. I wish for each one to get a happy ending but they have clearly shown that they are willing to give some stakes for the kids and their reluctant adult to go through before they can return home.

And I can’t wait to learn more about the secrets of these strange planets.

[the-kittylorian-writes]

🏴‍☠️ “Poor Boy” 🏴‍☠️

Fandom: Star Wars - Skeleton Crew

Type: One-shot

Word Count: 1.2k

Status: Complete

Summary:

‼️ Spoilers for s01ep07, “We’re Gonna Be In So Much Trouble.” ‼️

“Poor boy,” Jod said through gritted teeth, sneering at the tear-stained face of Wim.

But was it really Wim whom Jod entirely had in mind when he said those words?Jod had always seen himself resilient and stronger than the rest—that was why he was once more the captain of his old crew. Little did he know that the old wounds would creep in again. So… was Wim the only ‘poor boy’ in the Onyx Cinder, a ship taking him to his destiny at last?

A character study on Jod Na Nawood, speculating on the possibility that he was once a Jedi youngling, but Order 66 happened, leaving a shattered and scared little child.

Link to AO3:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/62085553

(Not sure why the link preview isn't showing up as of this posting but hopefully it gets fixed! 💫)

[toomanyheadthinks]

I don't think jod is going to hurt the kids or their parents. I think he might try to pretend he's a Jedi again to get the adults to cooperate. They don't know that the Jedi and the old republic fell so they might buy it. I do however think it'll all fall apart when he tries to meet the supervisor so he can land the pirate ship.

I'm still holding out that the supervisor is droid / computer of sort and it can either go two ways. He tries to take over At attin by controlling the supervisor (so he becomes the main bad guy) or there he accidently activates like a contingency plan which will have a terrible outcome for the people who live on At Attin. We still don't know what the great work is, and why their society seems oddly authoritative. But if At Achrann is to go buy it probably isn't good.

[pbandjeveryday]

Seeing Wim grow over episode 4 was touching. When they first arrived on the planet he was all disappointed to be at the end of the adventure. As the kids “train” he’s having fun, messing around. It’s a game.

But then they have to actually go into battle, and he’s terrified. It’s not swinging a staff around like a lightsaber for fun anymore, it’s a real war.

Then, once they’re in the tower, when Fern doesn’t know what to do, he seems to finally understand that things are serious. He has an actual meaningful conversation with her.

His sense of adventure is still there, it’s ingrained into his character. But it seems to me that he’s not just in it for the adventure anymore. He’s matured a little bit. It’ll be interesting to see how he acts next episode.

[bo-katan]

I think Jod is neither good nor bad. I think he is simply self-serving. Maybe he was once a part of the Jedi order, or maybe he was once a dark acolyte. Either way, with the fervent manner the Empire was hunting down all force users, I wouldn't be surprised if he simply chose to serve only himself, and that led him to the life of piracy. I think at this point, he is certainly moral grey. Like many pirate depictions in other media, I feel like he has a code he lives by that so far has served to keep the children alive by coincidence, but he's definitely not unwilling to do what's necessary to put himself on top.

It would also be interesting if he was once an inquisitor-in-training or something along those lines...

[runesofthedelta]

There's a lot of interesting stuff about Deltarune.

Like, for starters, we know the mysterious voice is Dr. Gaster. Like, most of us who dived into the UT mysteries (against instruction no less), know who it is.

[ They're known as the Gonermaker in the game files. We know who the goners are associated with. ]

With some additional confirmations by information seen: ... Not just confirmed fourthwall breaker, but also, confirmed fourthwall hijacker. ... He's not the Narrator, he is One of the Narrators. More specifically, he's the overarching Game Mechanics. SAVEs, Profiles, Character Creation... That's overarching Game Mechanics. ... Unlike the other entity, the good doctor is optimistic that we'll make good choices and a positive future. A lot like some other skeletons we can name. ... Name you or your character creation / the vessel, Gaster, and the game kicks you. We see you there, Doctor.

The game is run like its an experiment. The good doctor makes comments, and wants to see what we'd do. Its not like it affects him at all, we can just reset, and nothing will happen to him.

He encourages good decisions, but he's not going to stop us if we decide to go... a Weird Route.

( Good chance that, like how Flowey and Chara can mess with our single save, Gaster can mess with all three of our Profiles. Maybe our decisions across three timelines will have a tying effect )

( I should also point out, that from UT's perspective of "One save per Soul", we're in control of Three Souls--. Who the other two are, beyond the Red Soul is unknown, because the other two heroes clearly don't have souls or profiles we control. Maybe there's a spiritual analog to Chara and Frisk, and maybe, Kris is actually been a separate entity? It would make sense... )

The Knight is associated with Hands, just like the "Man who speaks in hands". So we're looking at someone associated with Wingdings. Which means, the Knight is, or serves, our fair doctor. Since they clearly don't serve any of the kings or queens seen in game.

The Knight, or perhaps another Knight, is associated with Eggs.

How do I know that? Because when you put Eggs in UT's Wingdings format, you get three hands who point in the direction a Chess Knight would move.

( I did not discover this on my own, other people found it first, and I take info from thems. )

Given that DR / UT runs on Homestuck rules of Symbolism, every pedantic stupid little detail counts. The Knight is associated with Eggs.

Eggs are treated akin to Homestuck's pumpkins, in that they are odd anomalies that, if you acknowledge, they vanish. Well... Temmies know eggs.

But it does sound like the Eggs act like Goners...

If the Knight isn't Gaster, they're certainly someone whom Gaster is acting through.

This could mean that the Knight has been following us out of sight, observing what we'd do. And uh... giving us an egg in our trying times.

( Gaster himself was treated as quite the Easter Egg in Undertale after all. But its rude to talk about someone who's listening. )

( Hm... Isn't a form of spaghetti noodles called Egg Noodles? )

( The wingdings translator doesn't seem to like that combination very well. )

( DON'T EAT THE NOODLES, THE TASTE IS UNDESCRIBABLE )

The phone calls sound like Entry 17. They also sound like the Memoryheads from the True Lab.

But given how Gaster, so far with what's seen, doesn't seem to be... well... overly malicious. He wants to see what happens, and might give an oddity (like an egg), and thinks that C and D are blood types, considers our party to be very very wonderful, and tends to particularly neutral about things (He'll give us choices like Love and Hope, but also Fear and Disgust, and seems to acknowledge that we can like something but we can also have a problem with it too, without much issue. )

And clearly isn't affected by anything we'd do, persay...

... So chances are low that he's the mysterious someone that's on the Phone Calls, either ours, or Spamton's. And while he'll give a tyrannical king a good thrashing, and maybe open up a world-ending-portals...

( The guy did make something that would shatter him across time and space, and his UT stats are in the hundreds to thousands, its in character. )

... He doesn't seem to be the kind that would willingly try to break someone's mind, cause Spamtom or Jevil.

( Otherwise, Alphys would've lost her own gourd just reading his notes. )

So that means, someone associated with him, but certainly not acting in his interests, is making phone calls.

Now this next bit, won't quite line up with the above, and is probably just total bullshitting on my part.

Because now I'm looking at metanarratives and breaking the FIFTH wall (IE, referencing prior works).

UT and DR take inspiration from Toby's Halloween Hack, yes... but they also take inspiration from Homestuck. UT's very areas have been pointed out to resemble Derse (Ruins), The Land of Frost and Frogs (Snowdin), The Land of Wind and Shade (Waterfall), the Land of Heat and Clockwork (Hotland) and Prospit (The judgement hallway). Leaving the Land of Light and Rain and New Home, as odd ones out.

We've got two royalty, a Queen and King, not unlike the Black and White Royals of SBURB.

In DR, the Queen of Chapter 2, definitely rings as being based on Roxy Lalonde of Homestuck.

And in UT, we've got a sweaty horse guy with muscles, who is enough of an Equius Zahhak ref, that Toby Fox joked bout being sued by Andrew Hussie.

In Homestuck's COLLIDE, we have an outright Undertale reference with Davepeta's battle against Lord English. Time and Heart mixing to have an Undertale feel. (and of course, Toby did work on COLLIDE's music. )

Even in Detalrune, the concept of becoming an more idealized self (going into the Darkworld to be a Hero) is not unlike godtiering, and Hometown isn't unlike John Egbert's old neighborhood.

So taking some metanarrative analysis isn't out of the question here. Its just, probably not going to be very exact.

... But its something to think on.

So.

In the line up of Papyrus and Sans, and knowing where DR / UT's metanarrative roots lie, they do, in fact, line up with another group of characters from Homestuck, and by extension, a much older work of Andrew Hussie.

And that work is Problem Sleuth.

( I would know, I actually got into both Homestuck and Problem Sleuth, because of Undertale and doing a metanarrative analysis like this... and ended up landing in that fandom so hard, I started doing classpect analysis and greater symbolisms there. )

So... Give you a hint.

I'm a member of the Midnight Crew~

If we make this fun little metanarrative symbolism and its snarky horseshit work...

That means that Sans is an analog to Clubs Deuce and Ace Dick, and Papyrus is an analog to Pickle Inspector and Diamonds Droog.

[ Papyrus' rough draft did have him with a fedora and being a rather nasty customer, not unlike our fedora wearing hooligans here. ]

If we take Hearts Boxcars / Hired Muscle as odd ones out, due to being the Heart (and thus, important to a different set of characters in UT / DR).

[ And let's face it, they weren't very important to Homestuck / Problem Sleuth either ]

( Unless anyone wants to say there's a super secret fourth skelebro. )

That leaves Gaster with Problem Sleuth and Spades Slick. One was the main hero of one adventure, and the other one of the main villains / antagonists / universe enders of the other; both are leaders of their subsequent groups. ... Slick himself was an Archagent and is considered a Royal of Derse, with a direct connection to the Queen.

That leaves Gaster with our Spadesy boys.

What a coincidence that the Spades are our focus cards in Deltarune, huh?

[ Wingdings a code, Aster is both a typeface and a Flower and a Star, and the Spades are associated with Knives and Swords. In game terms, Spades Players are associated with Easter Eggs, of which Gaster is one both meta and in-story... ]

[ How very, very interesting... ]

ADDENDUM:

Who is the one who disposes of the Vessel, the other Entity here? Well, while we can point the fingers at Chara, there is, in fact, another associated character who is capable of silencing their speech patterns and even changing their typing quirk, who is powerful, who is associated enough with Gaster to get away with pulling a fast one. ... And who knows, that "Nobody can choose who they are in this world". After all, everything is just, reset in the end, right? Its Sans. He might even be the one making the phone calls, and talking to dark crystal holders. After all, the characters he's talked to have an indirect connection to him. ... But its more than a little hard to think of him as a villain. I mean, the goofy pun guy who plays pranks? Who's vocal pattern is a cut and edited voice clip of Patrick Star from Spongebob? While the villain thing is an idea, I also doubt my own claim here. There's gotta be someone else we're not seeing...

If we translate Gaster's usual title, "HIM" into wingdings, we get a hand pointing down, an open hand, and then a Bomb.

"Down below, reaching out, Disaster awaits?" ...At least, that's the closest I could symbolically translate. For all I know it probably means "LOOK DOWN, HIGH FIVE, NO ITS A BOMB"

The man is associated with Giygas. Which is funny... Doesn't Papyrus have some design details that link him to Earthbound's Starmen?

I'm just sayin'...

Its something to think about.

[jonberry555]

Who is Jude Law's Character in Star Was: Skeleton Crew | Star Wars Theory

There are many mysteries in Star Wars: Skeleton Crew, including that of the motivation and characterization of Jude Law's Character, Jod Na Nawood, who may just be Pirate Captain Silvo. Is he a Jedi? A Private? A Hero? A Villain? Or Something Else?

[thecleverqueer]

Ways I see Episode 8 of Ahsoka going:

Full discretion, I haven’t the slightest clue (which makes me nervous).

Up until now, I’ve had a pretty clear idea of where the narrative was headed, but I’m in the dark now. Still, here are my theories:

Thrawn absolutely makes it back to the known galaxy. I feel like this is an obvious given based on previous narratives (Mando season 3 and Filoni /Favreau interviews indicating that they wanted Thrawn to be the main villain of the era). I don’t know what Thrawn’s motivations are. Possibly revenge. Possibly a promise that he made to the emperor. Regardless, he’s going to bring the Imperial Remnants together. They’ll be a formidable force to be reckoned with. They’ll lead directly or slightly indirectly into the First Order.

Morgan Elsbeth will either make it out with Thrawn or will be killed by Ahsoka. I assume the three mothers will be in tow (with or without Elsbeth). It’s pretty apparent that those boxes that Thrawn was loading onto his ship are Nightsister (or Nightbrother) remains. This will be another problem for the New Republic to deal with. They’ll likely rebuild Dathomir while allying themselves with the Imperial Remnants. They’ll also likely show up in Skeleton Crew (pure speculation, but pirates and the undead chasing kids around sounds like a good time). I’m betting on Elsbeth’s survival.

Baylan is absolutely staying behind to chase after whatever greater voice calls to him. They may leave this plot thread open since Ray passed, but I feel like whatever it is he’s after; he’ll ultimately unleash. We won’t find out what it is this season. Maybe the movie? Maybe season two of Ahsoka should it get a second season? I don’t know. Ultimately, it’ll be a problem. It will likely require Ahsoka and all of her little Bokken Jedi (stray cats) to deal with.

Shin will either return to Thrawn with no other options in front of her, or she’ll turn to the light and join Ahsoka and her Bokkens. I imagine she’ll likely work with Thrawn and Elsbeth for a while longer, and they’ll abuse her. She’ll turn to the light inevitably. Clearly, it calls to her.

Now for the heroes… I can see this going one of three ways:

1.) I think this is the least likely options, but they all make it out of Peridea safely… by the skin of their ass. They’ll end the series where they link up with Hera on Lothal, and there will be an emotional “well, we’re fucked, but at least we have each other” moment. I don’t think this is likely because I honestly don’t think Ahsoka thought this through, and I don’t think they have the coordinates to get back without the whales that go to Peridea to die. Which leaves me with two more likely scenarios:

2.) All three heroes (Sabine, Ezra and Ahsoka) are left at the end of the story… stranded on Peridea. With no logical way home, they’ll have to work together to find a way to navigate back on Ahsoka’s shuttle in a later story. An argument can be made that Ezra’s constant banter about “going home” is a twisted foreboding where the narrative swiftly gut punches him and goes, “well actually.” Watching them navigate this new galaxy together in an attempt to get home could be compelling in the event they have actually green-lighted a second season of Ahsoka.

3.) Ezra makes it out in a dramatic fashion on the Chimera trying to stop Thrawn from getting back to the known Galaxy… which basically makes him Thrawn’s captive once more, and Ahsoka and Sabine are left stranded on Peridea… and, honestly, this seems like the most likely scenario. This really raises the stakes in a lot of different ways. First, we have Ezra back home, but not the way he’d planned to be back at all. Second, we have Sabine and Ahsoka trying to figure out a way off Peridea together which will allow for character development on the part of Sabine (she clearly has many lessons to learn as she has basically damned the galaxy over an attachment which we know is a big no-no in the “Star Wars: Lessons” department, and never ends well). It could also open the door for more mystical adventures, and a potential for them to work together to try and stop Baylan from doing whatever it is that he’s doing. We could also just have the two of them trying to navigate back through the unknown galaxy with Huyang which would doubtlessly be pure gold.

Things I don’t think will happen to the heroes (that other fans are hellbent on):

*Ezra dies.

If it were Lucas, and Sabine did what she did… Ezra absolutely would die, but this is Filoni and Disney. Ezra lives.

*Ezra sacrifices himself, and stays behind alone.

I don’t think that this would be a fair option considering that it was Sabine that screwed the Galaxy, and basically made Ezra’s self-imposed exile meaningless. I think he gets back to the known galaxy… either with Thrawn or with Sabine and Ahsoka.

*Sabine sacrifices herself, and stays behind alone.

Sabine is the one that has the lesson in “letting go” and “sacrificing for the greater good” to learn, but I can’t see Ahsoka letting Sabine stay on Peridea alone. Also, Sabine getting left behind would ensure another story would be wasted going back to Peridea again to fetch another lost Comrade… which is lazy and lame.

*Ahsoka sacrifices herself, and stays behind alone.

While this could happen, it would be lame and not very narratively fulfilling mainly because Ahsoka jumping into a whale’s mouth to save Sabine was enough of a sacrifice. It is Sabine that needs to learn the lesson, and she’ll learn nothing if she gets to go back to the main galaxy with Ezra and live happily ever after with he and the Ghost Crew while Ahsoka sacrifices herself and stays behind. Also worth noting, the whole premise of the series is this master/ apprentice relationship between Ahsoka and Sabine which has been fractured and should be at least on the mend by the end of the series /season. It seems clear that Filoni’s goal (as well as the way the show has been marketed) here is to make Sabine part of the disaster lineage which will require Sabine and Ahsoka to spend more time with one another. I think if one is left behind, the other will be there too.

*Ahsoka dies.

Ha ha ha ha ha! Ahsoka can’t die. Let’s move on.

*Ahsoka will be saved by the Skeleton Crew.

So, I will start by saying that I don’t know a lot about the Skeleton Crew, but from what I do know, it’s about kids getting lost in the Star Wars Galaxy. They run into Jude Law, and they have to find their way home. I tend to think that they’re going to end up lost in the known galaxy, not Peridea because how TF would they end up there? There’s also been rumors about pirates and Jawas, which once again, are in the known galaxy (and maybe this will finally open the door for a live-action Hondo).

Anyway, there are two big reasons that I don’t think Ahsoka will even show up in Skeleton Crew (and if she does, it’ll only be as a minor cameo). 1.) it’s supposed to be about the kids in the show and their experience, and if Ahsoka shows up in this capacity, then the show immediately becomes about Ahsoka being rescued. Let’s be honest. Ahsoka would absolutely hijack their show, and if you’re trying to build new characters and stories, this isn’t how it’s done. 2.) Dave neither wrote nor directed any Skeleton Crew, and Dave is pretty protective of Ahsoka and her story. I don’t think, at this point, that Dave would let anyone write canon stories about her without direct, credit-worthy involvement. I might be wrong, but look at the track record. I think I’m right.

Anyway. I guess we’ll see.

[kimbolimbo0428]

Being 22, I think it's funny that a Star Wars character has faced a major event in their life at the age of 22 on quite a few occasions.

Case in point:

At the age of 22, Darth Maul is defeated and bisected by Obi-Wan Kenobi and somehow survives this.

At the age of 22, Anakin Skywalker is turned to the Dark Side, becomes Darth Vader, gets burned alive, and is forced to wear a life-preserving suit for the rest of his life.

At the age of 22, Kanan Jarrus joins Hera Syndulla as part of her crew aboard the Ghost.

At the age of 22, Han Solo meets his best friend Chewbacca, makes the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, and wins the Millennium Falcon from Lando Calrissian.

At the age of 22, Luke Skywalker learns that Darth Vader is his father immediately after said father cuts off his hand.

At the age of 22, Jod Na Nawood watched as his Jedi master was killed. He would then go on to become a pirate. (This one is admittedly speculative but Jude Law's age when filming Skeleton Crew matches up pretty well with the timeline.)

Moral of the story, big sh*t tends to happen when you're 22 in Star Wars.

[agentmanatee]

I'm leaning more towards Jedi initiate, who wasn't chosen as a Padawan and ran away from whatever his assignment was because he wanted to become something more exciting like a pirate. In parallel to Wim, of course. Either that or one taken by pirates and not rescued by the Jedi. There's definitely bitterness in his history.

After episode 5 I'm more convinced that Jod is a padawan that survived Order 66.

Reasons:

If you compare to other characters who have the Force who haven't been trained, Jod is pretty competent. He definitely seems like he's got at least some training.

The fact that he used the word "attachments" when talking to Wim-- he's got some of the basic teachings, but they're distorted.

His line back in episode 3 of "that's not a Jedi thing" seemed personal. A very Ben Wyatt "it's gonna bug me if I don't tell you how wrong you are" attitude.

His name. They're hitting the "everyone knows Jod by a different name" thing very hard, making me convinced that we don't know his real name yet. I don't think his real name is one we the audience will recognize but I do think it's deeper than "fake names are convenient to con people". I think he's in hiding, which would make sense if he was a former jedi padawan who spent most of his life hiding out under Empire rule (cf. Kanan Jarrus aka Caleb Dume).

[awsugar]

speaking of questions that exercise very mcr specific muscles in your brain. i was perusing mychem tumblr the other day and came across a masterpost about the SS/mayo blog frerard lore (i’m aware frerard is not PC these days thanks obama). i’ve been a dedicated fan for over a decade now and my brain is an mcr lore bank but i had literally never heard of this. do you know about it and if you do what are your thoughts

omg yea. ss/mayo is crazy. and unfortunately a lot of it has been lost to time and its not even saved on wayback. theres some stuff thats convincing, theres some stuff thats not.

so like lets preface this by saying that the ft willz myspace? confirmed to be frank. and obviously the stuff posted on skeleton crew, those screenshots of ft willz works that look like theyre on burnt paper? yea so those are confirmed and those are real fully frank no questions.

i personally am a skeptic of other accounts that claim to be ft willz. like the tumblr? i do not think thats frank. and i think that came at a time when people had already really speculated or figured out that ft willz WAS frank. so like i think the tumblr is honestly just someone who was pretending to be frank and managed to sort of emulate his style but yea i don't think it's him. i think the reason some of the stuff hits so hard in a frerard sense is because that was intentional by the person writing it. you know.

anyway ss and mayo. there were two blogs on blogspot started in 2007 i believe that fans thought were frank and gerard. well it started with mayo (its-mayonaise.blogspot.com). that blog is still up and so are a lot of the posts but i think a lot of them have been deleted as well, and not saved anywhere on wayback. im sure theyre on someones hard drive out there but i haven't seen them. then a blog appeared called iamthemodernprometheus.blogspot.com. some of those posts are still up but most are gone. that was ss/sss/shitsubou shita/frank (allegedly). ss started interacting in the comments on mayo's blog. and i think i may have read some mayo blog posts back in the day but i haven't been able to find them to answer this one. i just remember when i joined the fandom most people thought it was gerard.

now here's a couple things of evidence. THIS is a blogspot comment thread where people who have saved some of ss' blog posts put them in the comments. and yes obviously it could be an elaborate hoax by two fans who were invested in frerard. but like these things were being posted as it HAPPENED. you know? idk i wasnt there in 2007. but 2007 was when the fanfic took off and we really informed a lot of our perception of what happened with frerard on things like ft willz/stuff that happened on stage/and a lot of these posts really fit into the timeline. i would recommend reading that because its kind of hard to believe its like. a teenager pretending to be frank. it really just SOUNDS like frank. and he's really writing blog posts. basically to gerard lol. it gives the impression that they were on tour together (projekt rev) and doing the Thing but like there was def tension going on behind the scenes and we already know that thats true. frank didn't like eliza and thought gerard was moving too fast, the imnotokay.net post came from someone in mcr's camp that ppl thought was frank (or maybe brian) and then tbh its happening again?? just months later? it makes complete sense that if frank thought gerard was moving too fast with eliza that he DEFINITELY thought he was moving too fast with lynz getting MARRIED to her backstage just a couple months? after breaking off his engagement with eliza. anyway just read the comments. its very easy to believe its frank.

and then the other peice of evidece i found in this reddit thread: x comment in particular by u/ReallyKapu. they say that they have always gone by Kapunua online and that they met frank at a lm show, gave him a hat with the inscription 'sss' inside and later on he thanked them for it on the blog.

sure enough:

from what i've read it seems like the blog was actually a community. there were people who followed it and made friends in the comment section. and it does seem implausible but it looks to me like frank saved all of his gifts from tour and then made this post specifically thanking people for them. the person who claims this is them also says that they don't think mayo is actually gerard but that frank thought it was.

and i've seen stuff saying that if it wasn't gerard it was probably someone close to the band because they had like information that was posted on the blog that wouldn't come readily available (or make sense) until the show the next day.

anyway, i wasn't there for this. i was on the forums and twitter and tumblr for a LOT of mcr history but this was a little before my time and i think if i had been there OR if the blogs had actually been preserved in some way that i might be able to form a better opinion. i think theres a lot of evidence for frank, not sure about gerard. but i won't claim that it's true either bc we really don't know and this one i don't think we ever will!

[kindly-whisper-norbury]

Skeleton Crew spoilers and speculation/theory...

Remember this part of the trailer?

Does what is hanging from Jod's right hip look like a lightsaber to anyone else? I mean, am not going to say that I believe with 100% certainty that it is a lightsaber (as opposed to, say, a fancy blaster), but just hear me out...

First of all, look at how it moves. There's a certain swing to it that suggests that there is no handle like would be found on a blaster. And also, it would be kind of unusual for a blaster to be hanging, rather than sheathed.

Second, it doesn't seem to have a scope, which is common for a blaster (though they don't all have them, of course), but it does appear to have an emitter guard/shroud, like is sometimes found on lightsabers.

Third, in no other images (as far as I can find) do we see him with that specific device/object.

However, one of the promo images seems to be taken from the same moment (framed almost exactly the same, although the kids are in a different order, so it might be from an alternate take), and the object is not on his hip.

But take a look at how he is holding his hand...

It looks like he is supposed to be holding something (or, yeah, just making a fist).

So, while it could be a blaster, it could also very likely be a lightsaber.

My theory, then, is that the crew goes to an actual old Jedi temple, (where Jod tells them what actually happened to the Jedi) and he finds a lightsaber there.

Unrelated, but I also believe that the image above is probably towards the end of the second to last episode, when they finally get to At Attin.

[pbandjeveryday]

I get the feeling that Wim’s dad knew that something was up with the planet. Maybe in his job he’s stumbled across some information he shouldn’t have.

Like maybe he’s just worried and nothing more, but he looked very very deep in thought at the end of the “telling the parents” scene

[bo-katan]

What is this "Great Work" that everyone keeps talking about in Skeleton Crew, though? It can't be from Palpatine, right??

Disclaimer: this is all, of course, speculation, as nothing was confirmed in the series.

It's interesting that you bring up Palpatine, as he did have multiple contingency plans in case he ever met his demise. One of these was Operation Cinder, an orbital bombardment campaign meant to punish the Galactic Empire for failing to prevent his death. Considering the Supervisor mentioned the Jedi being traitors, it is a possibility that the Great Work mentioned in Skeleton Crew was one of the contingency plans concocted by Palpatine. With how much wealth is stored in the vaults, it's possible that At Attin served as a personal wealth caché for Palpatine outside of the Banking Clans that he was utilizing to fund certain projects, such as the the sentinal messenger droids that relay his posthumous instruction for Operation Cinder to loyal Imperial officers, or other secretive, darkside schemes like his cloning in The Rise of Skywalker.

However, some of us that have delved into the High Republic believe it is possible that the Great Work is actually in reference to Chancellor Lina Soh's Great Works projects from the High Republic era (which, for those who are unfamiliar with this era, takes place about 150 years prior to the prequels).

With the mention of the currency on At Attin being "Old Republic credits," it's possible they are talking about the High Republic. Also, they teach about the Jedi in a positive way in their schools, despite the Supervisor's last message received from the Republic.

Chancellor Soh's Great Works projects ranged from bacta cultivation (as bacta healing wasn't a researched, sustainable form of healing yet) to their creation of the Starlight Beacon, a massive space station meant to connect the outer-rim to the central government at Coruscant; to the restoration of ecologically damaged planets and other technological advancements. It wouldn't be hard to add whatever the Barrier surrounding At Attin is as one of these Great Works projects, or even just having At Attin be a sort of test to see if a droid-run utopia were possible to cultivate, where there is peace and safety for generations as they are secluded from the Galaxy at large.

I would not be surprised at a season 2 announcement where we would be exploring more about At Attin and the other planets that were said to be lost to the galaxy. (I haven't been online, so I'm unaware of any news about renewal.)

[if-mirrormine]

Re the tumblr thing: Short version is that a lot of the old staff got laid off, and so people are speculating that if all the people who used to work for tumblr are gone then the site will disappear with them.

Especially since I think it's at least half confirmed that tumblr might now be on a skeleton crew, ie things are much slower and only kept up but not maintained as a priority. Worry? No one's really certain. But it's still a good idea to back up your blog, make sure you have a second line of contact with the people you absolutely do not want to lose contact with, and optionally a second source for people who follow you to find you. But no alarm bells yet, because this is at least the fourth time we've heard this same thing in the last two years and people love to sound the alarm (understandable since lots of us only have contact with people here).

hmm. much to think about indeed.