#they fakeclaimed the existence of programming?

[thecircularsystem]

sorry how can you possibly claim something another user has posted is their programming without them saying so. that is wildly disrespectful and invasive and presumptive.

Where… did I say someone was programmed?????? What the fuck???

[mozzarella-sys]

systemscringe is so fucking stupid?? like ok fakeclaiming like 70% of systems 💔

first of all they're anti endo (not the worst ig)

they don't believe ramcoa exists. are they fucking stupid like cmon now 💔💔 "you can't program alters into your brain!!! you need ton of trauma!!" do you think ramcoa would not be traumatizing

they think fictives don't exist. in endogenic plurality, they exist. in traumagenic plurality, it is very possible for an alter to cling onto some fictional character and become that fictional character. are they ok in the head?? this is just ridiculous ngl

they think a system cant have a lot of alters. fully possible i do fear?????? and considering that traumagenic lads can split after the initial trauma it's fully possible

they're just stupid

sybau sybau sybau

ok that's it

[ghost-jester-sys]

I see many people talk about successful programming on here

And yes, that is terrifying

But I want to talk about my experience as a failed program

My name is Edie [It was changed from "Failure" by a gatekeeper in our system] Helping me write this will also be Artifice and Faelan [Both similar to me as failed programs]

For whatever reason, the "method" they used to make me form and give me a role was entirely unsuccessful. I do not want to give details on what my intended purpose was as it's highly personal and dangerous to share details of.

I was deemed useless and was then hurt by them.

Not every programming attempt will be succesful, whether this is for good or bad I'm unsure.

We have MANY successful programs and while they are both terrifying and sad, failed programs can be that as well.

Any time fronting is spent fearing my handlers, fearing what I may have done wrong or worse [Not sharing here]

Feeling like I have let people down because I didn't "correctly" respond to torture is terrifying and something I do not wish on anyone.

This post may be a bit garbled and rambly, I struggle with thinking clearly like the rest of the system but my thoughts are particularly scrambled and unclear.

A note from Artifice: I think is important for both non-programmed and programmed systems to understand that failed programs do exist and acting as if they do not harms them more

A note from Faelan: feel as much terror as programmed AND non-programmed alters in system and feels bad being stuck in a "limbo" between the two.. and feel is important that this known

~~~

A final reminder that any attempts at fakeclaiming will be blocked. Anyone who beliefs RAMCOA/TBMC to be fake will be blocked. I will not engage with discourse on this post unless it is a genuine question with good intentions. This is for my safety and because I do not owe you my life story.

[granulesofsand]

🗝️🏷️ RAMCOA, fakeclaiming

While I was reading about Satanic Panic (which is not the same as even SRA, though that was what it was built on) I was having such an awful time staying grounded despite taking in approximately zero new information. I was reflecting on that, wondering whether there was a truth to the pages that my brain was trying to hold out of reach.

It’s just that it says Satanic Ritual Abuse. An article about cats will do that if it mentions SRA. I don’t know if that’s an association our brain made for us or if that came free with the programming, but it takes like three times the effort to absorb not counting switching and memory snatching. Like rain on wax.

Layfolk’s Satanic Panic vs SRA below cut

Satanic Panic was a moral panic. Satanic Ritual Abuse is extreme abuse in the context of countercultural religious ceremonies (the religion was important here, because political reasoning gave way to the Mind Control category, such as Monarch and MKUltra).

Therapists had different rules then, kinda like how we decided maybe we needed OSHA by fucking up enough. Journalists were expected to be more neutral and less for entertainment than currently, but they were also doing their own thing. The culture was very prominently Christian.

So the first publications were with therapists who had poor boundaries, with clients who had experienced some form of what we would now (and possible then) recognize as mistreatment. The overlay script, the lens through which they interpreted these disclosures, was basically Evangelicalism.

Many people shared this lens, and concerns grew as more cases were recognized and adapted into marketable media. People, as per usual, were also stressed tf out about something (jobs declining, divorce, women existing too much). They wanted an enemy and a solution, and they had it.

So here we go, people are talking about Satanic cults in every town, sacrifices out of natural deaths, predictions that never came true by any taken count. How deep does it go? Everywhere, all the evil in the world. How do we fix it? Jesus, of course.

That is Satanic Panic. SRA cases that turned up nothing worthwhile or too little too late are used as evidence that such abuse not only didn’t happen that time, but never has and never will happen any time.

But we do have cases of RA, usually presented in the form of plain regular abuse because the ideological accompaniment isn’t illegal most places. When people prosecute, they rarely bring the extent of the issue into the courtroom because they won’t be taken seriously. People are now more afraid to be seen backing a conspiracy theory than backing an abuser. It’s damn near a moral panic about a moral panic.

It boils down to whether we believe the victim or the accused, because we want to uphold the whole innocent until proven guilty. We forget we can do both. If a client, friend, or peer comes out with RA disclosures, the proper response is to console them. This isn’t court, they aren’t pressing charges, we are not responsible for proving it either which way. Tend to people.

[schmitty-schmitstinstein]

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Hello!

You can call me Cyd or Schmitty, either is fine, just switch it up occasionally. I use it/they/quip pronouns, and I'm 22. This is to give the basics about my blog, and to just give some info about me!

Here we go!

General info

~I like to write, sing, and cosplay. I've shared a lot of writing and cosplay content so far, and I plan to continue this. You can find my ao3 right here.

~I'm neurodivergent.

~I try to use tone indicators when I feel they're needed. Using them for me would be much appreciated.

~I'm a whole bunch of xenogenders. I have my pronouns cc listed below

~I'm also otherkin! Specifically virtualkin and errorkin, as in being something computer generated, yet missing from the program. I'm also fictionkin, specifically of Schmitty from Jackbox/You Don't Know Jack and Data from Star Trek: the Next Generation.

~I do block liberally. Very rarely will it be a temporary block. It's possible, but I have my reasons for blocking, and will stand by them.

Interests

(Favorites are bold)

-Jackbox/You Don't Know Jack

-Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

-Animaniacs

-Star Trek

-The Sims

-I Was a Teenage Exocolonist

-Doctor Who

-Dimension 20

-Will Wood/Will Wood and the Tapeworms

-My Chemical Romance

-Green Day

-Little Shop of Horrors

-My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

-Starkid

-HLVRAI

DNI

-Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic, Ableist, Aphobic, Antisimetic, Islamophobic, any other form of bigot

-Fatphobic

-You make mean-spirited fat jokes/fat jokes at someone’s expense

-Transmisogynists

-Transmisandrists

-Anti Self-Diagnosis

-Anti-endo and anti-created systems (neutral too. You can’t be neutral on someone’s literal existence.)

-Anti age regression

-Anti pet regression

-transmeds

-sysmeds

-Fakeclaimers

-Harry Potter fans

-Chloe Bourgeois fans/apologists

-Genuine Schmitty haters (I will try to avoid general negative comments. I guess that would be more of like a 'Cyd don't look!' thing)

-Anyone who excuses the erasure of marginalized identities in media (Specifically the MCU) or takes part in it.

-Deniers of the Holocaust, the genocide in Gaza, or the 1/6 Insurrection

-Anti-Otherkin/Alterhuman/Fictionkin/Therian/etc.

-MAGA supporters

-Pro-War

-Anti-ACAB

-Purposely uses tone indicators wrong/mocks tone indicators

-Discourse of any kind. This includes syscourse, fandom discourse, identity discourse, anything.

-anti self-ship

Stuff I try to avoid

-Squid Game

-Inside Job

-Heavy amounts of gore

-Detailed descriptions of bugs

-Schmitty hate

-Extreme flashing lights

-Venting

-Please don't call me any slurs. Even if they are reclaimable for you or me, I'm just not comfortable with that

-Please don't send me donation asks.

Other Accounts

~@falsetoons: Incorrect Animainacs Quotes

~@welcometoschmittlash: Schmitty fan blog

~@yourhostandbestfriend: Schmitty rp account

~@abbacchiositalianpiss: JJBA fan blog

~@ask-creaturebox-household: Jackbox/YDKJ supernatural creatures AU askblog

~@would-they-drink-sanitizer: Character Gimmick blog

Tags

#cyd's sentiments: general thoughts/random silly things I want to write about

#storytime with Schmitty: fanfic/writing posts:

#cyd foams at the mouth: rants

#schmitty's schmelf promo: self promotion tags for other blogs (will be accompanied by a general self promotion tag)

#cyd scribbles: Art posts!

I think that is all! Thanks so much for reading!

Shutting Down

[clockwork-dandelions]

Wi struggle to talk about myr systemhood with others, systems or singlets, because it feels.. strange and hard to explain. Wi get worried about people not believing mus or becoming isolated because myr experience with being a system is different.

Wi're a traumaendo system. What that means for us is that wi originated through extreme trauma but use the act of elaboration (creating our own identities outside of myr trauma) to heal and the act of elaboration feels rather "endogenic" in nature.

Wi're a programmed system (hence the need for elaboration) but wi don't have any triggerable programs. Wi have programs that go off but you can't say something to us and deliberately cause a program to go off; unlike what wi've seen in a majority of the OEA survivor community.

Wi didn't have a host or frequent fronters. Myr various front rooms are a constantly revolving door of parts.

There are almost no outwardly differences in parts. Especially after elaboration. Wi have a collective name, collective pronouns, collective genders, collective interests, collective fashion, collective sexuality. Internally, there are some differences but all.. 2,000(?) of us are basically all the same personality. The main difference lies in the emotions but even then.. it's collective, the difference is just who fronts for the emotion.

The memory between the innerworld and front is almost non-existent. Once wi enter front, wi have no idea what's going on inside and wi forget almost all details of what it is, how it functions or what wi were doing before wi entered front. There is an almost 100% disconnect between front and back of house.

Not to mention myr memory in general. Wi struggle to remember the simplest thing, especially when it comes to the abuse, and that causes a massive fear of fakeclaiming. Especially when an unelaborated part comes to front or a part whose in program comes to front and shares things wi didn't remember then wi promptly forget those facts again when that part elaborates or exits their program.

Myr programming being integral to myr system structure and experience makes it even harder. Wi can't really talk about myr system without going into the extreme abuse wi went through and.. that is not something a lot of people are open to hearing about. It's not something a lot of people can truly handle hearing about.

And it makes trying to make connections in the community hard. Wi just want to have a community of people who understand mus and what wi've been through. Wi want people wi can lean on for support or growth when it gets hard. There's so many factors at play in myr experience and it makes it impossible to make those connections and it's.. depressing.

[ame-col]

Hello! こんにちは！

We’re collectively known as Ame.

We’re a 16yo HC-DID, polyfragmented, and a RAMCOA programming survivor. Our headcount rests at 1 million at the moment. We are fragment and introject heavy, so not all of us are fully formed. We split very easily.

Any fakeclaiming towards us will just be laughed at. We don’t waste our time with you.

I’ll put it upfront, DNI if you’re :

Endogenic / supporter, “Radqueer” / transID, proship or believe fiction doesn’t affect reality, syscringer, anti xenogender/neoprns or fakeclaim systems for high alter counts, enjoying existence, etc. this may be added to as needed.

Our frequent fronters atm are :

🎈👼 - Eli (He/it/angel/god)

🎈👿 - Markus (He/they/it/fallen)

🌧️🎀 - Innocence (She/he/they/cute)

🎮🔭 - Al-an (He/it/they/science)

🎮🧬 - Sebastian (He/it/experiment/fish)

🌧️🖤 - Pebbles (He/it/rot)

Collectively identify as Ame from NSO, due to our programming.

Tags we’ll use :

#(code)’s tag - Headmate specific

#Ame’s Rambles - Our rambles

#Ame’s Trauma - Trauma related posts

#Ame’s userboxes - Userboxes

#TW RAMCOA / abuse / endos / hate - TW for specified things

#Ame’s sillies - Silly posts

Thank you for reading.

[the-sides-dimension]

Fine I'll make a fucking intro post so losers stay off the blog

Main is @awesomenessdoesstuffsometimes . We also have @making-gender (coining blog) . Spam rbs on @the-sides-archive. Owner of anti endo systems community group and Validation Pronouns 2.0 on discord

Apollo_DS on most platforms | adult bodied

List of guys

DNI

Endos, pro endos, "mixed origin", tulpa

Proship

Radqueers

Anti alterhuman

Those blogs like "pro anti debate" that just rb shit to get more people to bother me

Anti xenos n neos

Fakeclaimers, r/FDC & systemcringe users

Things I am but don't really care if you interact if u disagree

Pro good faith

Kink and polyam have a place in queer spaces

Number names exist outside of the context of programming. Don't make people detail their trauma to you to decide if they're allowed to use a name.

Pro respectful & educated kin for fun, anti factkin

Anti true crime community

[csaventing]

tw: programming, paranoia, tbmc survivor stuff

Delusional thinking and having a psychotic episode rn so anyone that may be sensitive to that stuff be careful.

. . .

We are extremely paranoid and struggle to even just exist. And after knowing our system got fakeclaimed (our system account for venting too), it's been hell.

That was our safe space for talking about our programming and such. And now we are so paranoid that if we even mention it, we fear **him** (our programmer) coming to find us and have delusions and hallucinations relating to him and our past for days.

Now we are too paranoid to even be able to vent and feel like every tiny thing we say is some bread crumb trail back to us and that we aren't safe. And it doesn't help that we've been REALLY triggered recently. So we kinda- need that safe space. But instead we are fearful. We feel like us existing is annoying, that everyone looks at us as if we are a monster, that we can't be honest or else it risks harassment and mockery and losing mutuals and being brought back.

It's fucking miserable. It's why we NEEDED that safe space esp since the mental health app we had was literally unsafe and one of our mutuals flat out believes ramcoa is just a conspiracy theory. So. This isn't fun. We need our safe space account more than ever, but we can't have it and are now paranoid about posting on any of our accounts esp cause we are having a bad psychotic episode cause of other triggers.

Hate fakeclaimers. Hate our programmer and abuser and whatever group had us. Hate everything with our existence.

Sorry. We are very not in touch with reality right now so disorganized speech and our words may be weird. We feel very unreal.

That sounds so distressing for you all and I’m so sorry your safe space was taken from you like this.

[fqirycollective]

Debunking FDC Claims Pt. 2

tw// mentions hospitals and hospitalization, implications of self harm

The Ability to Mask

Systems are caused by covert disorders, meaning most systems (about 94%) are covert and unable to be detected by others. A lot of systems present more overtly online due to the internet being a place to actually express yourself and the ability to do things like make different accounts on social media. Only about 6% of systems are overt enough to be able to be noticed by other people. So naturally, a heavy majority of systems will be able to mask well. Some systems put effort into masking because of safety reasons, being ashamed, or simply because it's no one else's business. Things like accents which people either expect or fakeclaim aren't as easy to mask (personal experience), but it's easy to play it off as something like watching that type of show recently. Overall, systems are meant to be covert but not all of them are, so the ability to mask will vary system to system and even alter to alter.

A large system isn't hospitalized.

Systems are made so we can function despite the trauma we've experienced. Typically, intervention to the point of hospitalization only occurs if the person is a danger to themself or someone else. (From what I've read, anyway. We have never been hospitalized.) Self-destructive parts exist, I'm not denying that. However, just because they exist doesn't mean that large systems (who have more alters to switch between and typically multiple of each role) have them front long enough to be able to harm to that point. Our protectors typically front with them to keep them from doing serious injury. Not to mention, a lot of systems have medical trauma of some type and the system itself may avoid all of that to prevent further traumatization and therefore avoid doing anything that may end up with them being hospitalized. This goes for all systems. For larger systems, the main difference in ways we act is increased dissociation, even less identity, and more amnesia. All of which aren't reasons to be hospitalized.

They have non-distinct alters.

Non-distinct alters doesn't mean no alters at all. They have been noted in a form of OSDD-1 (what the community calls OSDD-1a) and in polyfragmented systems specifically, but just because they're non-distinct doesn't mean they aren't there. In fact, it's common to have similarities with alters due to the fact that they're all apart of the same brain so they'd likely have similar hobbies and interests.

They use Plural Kit or Simply Plural.

Heaven forbid that a person with a serious, debilitating disorder uses an app or program to make life easier. Both allow a system to keep track of number of alters, information about them, add ways for you to communicate with one another, add important notes and reminders, keep track of fronting, etc. All of this can and does help with communication which is possibly the most important part of healing (as the bettering of communication between parts– integration– is necessary in all paths of healing). This can be done using some type of journal but for a lot of people, keeping an app on your phone is a lot easier. And since they're resources that were actually made for systems, it makes total sense for systems to use them.

They have a history of roleplaying or continue to roleplay after coming out.

Systems are heavily traumatized. Often, writing and roleplaying are ways for people to express themselves and to get away from their traumatizing lives. While yes, this would mean they have experience creating and acting as characters and I do know some roleplayers who have faked being a system, it doesn't mean every system who roleplays is faking. Sometimes they write and roleplay to escape current trauma or to express themselves in a community that is typically accepting of trauma survivors.

Introjects from new/popular source

Introjects form for a reason. In the case of fictives (which is what this claim is mostly about), it's because their brain finds something about that character that's worth internalizing. The more popular a source becomes, the more people who will consume it. When that happens, more and more introjects will be formed. That's common sense, honestly. As for new sources (even if it's come out within a week), it's not impossible for systems to form introjects from them. Why is it so hard to believe people are currently so stressed/being traumatized that they need to split and cope by consuming a newer media? It's not impossible, and so not a reason to fakeclaim.

They use outdated terms.

This is interesting, but I'll debunk it anyways. If they're a minor or they're self-diagnosed who uses it, I'd personally take it as a sign they probably haven't done nearly enough research to consider themself a system. However, specifically for those who are older and diagnosed, it's possible they were diagnosed with MPD or DDNOS and continue to use that term over the new terms. It's the same exact thing when it comes to ADD, which is now an outdated term. Would you tell someone who says they have ADD they're faking? No? Same exact thing.

They won't tell you their trauma.

First of all, it's none of your business. Secondly, systems are made so they don't remember the trauma. It's possible they don't know their trauma. Third, it's unlikely they want to tell someone they barely know or really anyone on the internet what their trauma is. It's unsafe and could lead them to further abuse and trauma. Why would they share that? And again, why do you need to know their trauma to determine if they're a real system? To see if they're physical/sexual abuse survivors? Friendly reminder that even the DSM-V recognizes systems formed from other types of severely stressful situations (ex: medical trauma).

They have alters different ages than the body.

Trauma happens during childhood, so that would explain the parts that appear as children like if they were stuck in the trauma mode or if they were meant to have the childhood the system never had. That explains syskids. As for parts older than the body, they may exist because their brain sees that age as more capable of doing their job. For example, a gatekeeper may be older due to their brain seeing someone who's older as more responsible and needed for the system. Or a persecutor being a teen because they're stereotypically rebellious. Or a caregiver being older due to seeing older people as more responsible and caring. There's a reason alters sometimes fit into stereotypes. It's because that's how children often see those types of people.

[fenmere]

So, here's another thing. Almost everyone, at least in English speaking countries, have been raised in a society and culture that teaches us from the second we can understand language that we are all singlets. From our parents and teachers, to our peers and the books we've read, almost everything we encounter teaches us that whatever we're experiencing it must be the experiences of someone who is a single person with a single consciousness and a single identity.

Except for what the plural community has been accumulating in the shadows and corners of our society, and sneaking into mainstream media as heavily stereotyped or plural coded stories, we have virtually no exposure to anything to help us recognize and differentiate our experiences from what is presumed to be singlethood.

The internet is rapidly helping plurality become more commonly known, but not well enough yet to have young children be told stories of plural heroes and what it's like to be in their heads. And not well enough to end the fakeclaiming of EVERY plural system by skeptical singlets, which actually dominate our cultures. Most official looking documentation you'll read that's not directly from a government or university program specializing in dissociative disorders will call DID "a controversial disorder that may not even exist." Plural systems are still being raised with no education into how to self examine and identify their experiences as plural. And what this means is that none of us really know where all the edges are. We, the Inmara, came out to ourselves as plural at 41 years old. Many of us knew we were plural and were fighting to convince the rest of the system since at least 19 years old. And when we look back we can see clear internal and external evidence that we were plural since infancy. But we don't know how to apply that to other systems. We can share our experiences and what they felt like, and others can start to get an idea, but plurality is so neurodiverse itself that no two systems experience exactly the same things, let alone perceive the same experiences the same way. So, it is possible that any given system may think that they were not plural until some age (5, 9, 16, etc.) but actually are not able to recognize the signs and experiences that indicate they were plural before that. And all we can do is take each others word for what our experiences have been. Which is the right thing to do. Even while we're sharing our experiences and building a community knowledge base to help bring up the next generation of systems to better understand themselves. Share our various experiences and let others figure things out for themselves. And it's what so many of us are doing! And it's beautiful! Let's keep it up. But we should also be gentle but firm with our own selves when facing our selves doubts. We've all been deeply gaslit by our own cultures for most of our lives, and it takes a long time to unlearn that. Remind your system mates that we've all been taught badly and that the doubt comes from cultural pluralphobia, and that it's OK to not know for sure about yourself for a while as you learn more.

[balance-keeper-from-aery]

Hello, everyone! My name is Libre. I am a caregiver of Aery team. We are endogenic system of four. Each member has their own blog from now on. And I've got this blog name from other member who created this blog for me. I think it's cute.

My gender is irrelevant. And you can use they/them for me (you can hear she/her being used but it reserved for our system members only). I am a android kin and Monika hearted (from ddlc). My name symbolizes calmness and balance. It based on Latin word libra meaning "scales". I enjoy concept of neutrality and mediation between opposite sides.

My interest are kpop (I only listen to the music and like their overall vibe. I'm not in the fandom if you can call it that), computer technology and open source programs. I like trying out different methods of organization and studying. And also I read quite a lot of fanfiction. My favorite aesthetics are calm nature (for example cottagecore) and old web. My favorite color is green.

I don't have a set DNI so you are free to interact as long as you are civil. I'm not interested in discourse, especially syscourse. I have no intention of proving my or ours existence to anyone. If you want to fakeclaim or insult me or my system please block and move on. There's no point for any conflicts. Anyone else is welcome and I hope we'll have good time together.

[granulesofsand]

Hyenas

🗝️🏷️ mentions of RAMCOA programming

I have no idea how to brooch this topic, or if we already have. Gonna start with the groundwork. We are programmed; many of our alters were explicitly handed their identities soon after being split from extreme abuse. The conditioning is insidious and goes on for each alter every time they’re fronting the body, as many of us are not intended to front without cues.

We have programmed hyenas. Like so many of them. Not quite to the extent of our robots or soldiers, but more than our wolves and possibly tied with our vampires. And they’re regular ass hyenas. Have you ever seen a hyena? That. They’re vaguely pack animals and eat carrion, we have them because our grandfather fucking loved those creatures.

They’ve moved from existing as scavenger alters to fronting in near mania, laughing at mostly fakeclaimers. They very much enjoy people they consider safe-enough ripping into people they do not care about. It’s an ordeal herding them out of front after they get out, and they are wild animals. I don’t even know if they have names or just codes.

Love our hyenas, but if we’re out of whack their passive influence hits like a bus.