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My lukewarm take is that Keith is a friendship guy. He values friends over romantic relationships, shit he values friendship over anything.
Which is why I love writing one sided fanfics of characters or oc's absolutely in love with him and him just constantly being "Dude, you're like a best friend/sibling to me" (cause he has like a million best friends, even tho he himself doesn't know it) whenever they confess
And also why I like writing klance fanfics where it takes him an aggravating long amount of time to figure out he likes Lance, even when he stared at him with absolute love in his eyes he still didn't know he loved him
#shitpost#rewatching Voltron i see so many instances where characters act like they're in love with keith but its obvious keith sees them as friends#dear friends#fandom#shipping#shipping discourse#voltron#vld keith#keith voltron#keith kogane#vld#voltron lance#klance#vld lance#lance mcclain
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I swear to God, all those dumb fucking idiots who watched Arcane with their eyes closed and genuinely think that JayVik and/or Vanco are actual biological brothers and therefore shouldn't be shipped are giving me violent flashbacks to ye olden days of Voltron when people insisted Sheith were (adopted or biological) brothers with absolutely no canonical evidence to back up those claims.
Don't ship something if it's not your cup of tea. Write your AUs where they are related. But first please improve your media literacy because omg, people who are siblings do not say "He's like a brother to me."
And for the record: Let people ship their Wincest and Thorki and whatever, too. You don't have to like it. You don't have to approve of it. There are some pairings (many of them very popular) that absolutely want to make me claw my fucking eyes out. And you know what I do about that? I filter out said ships on AO3. I do not go into the tags. I don't leave inane "Aren't they brothers?1!?" comments on ship content.
There will always be things in fandom that go against your personal beliefs or preferences. But, to me, a lot of times, the whole "But they are brothers" protests read more like "But they are both guys". It's just a different flavor of homophobia/anti-slash rhetoric.
So fine, be bigoted and judgmental - but please do it in the privacy of your head or in personal conversations with friends who agree with you. Don't complain to shippers and content creators. And don't make incorrect claims about any blood relations just because you watched a show with your eyes closed and the tv on mute.
Rant over.
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Would I get slaughtered if I drew Allurance fanart in the year of our lord 2024
#i know how problematic allurance was back in 2018#question is: is the fandom still batshit crazy now?#voltron#vld#voltron legendary defender#allurance#allura voltron#voltron allura#allura vld#vld allura#lance voltron#voltron lance#lance vld#vld lance#lance mcclain#princess allura#vld ships#voltron ships#shipping discourse
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My Analysis of Voltron: Legendary Defender and Its Legacy - in Particular Regards to Keith and Lotor.
My father introduced me to Voltron: Defender of the Universe when I was four years old, around 2010, because he grew up with it in the 80s. Voltron became my first real obsession. When I was about ten, DreamWorks announced that they would be partnering with Netflix to remake my favourite show. Naturally, I was excited. But when I finally watched Voltron: Legendary Defender (LD), I was confused.
At the time, I didn’t know about Beast King GoLion, so I was full of questions: Who’s Shiro? Where’s Sven? Why did they change Arus to Altea? Why isn’t Keith in the Black Lion? I cannot tell you how furious ten-year-old me was when I discovered they had given the Voltron Force the “wrong” Lions (Lance in Blue? Preposterous). After Season One, I actually quit watching because it felt so far removed from what I knew (they made Pidge a girl? How dare they!). It wasn’t until Season Eight had already been released for quite some time that I went back to give it another go. It was… alright.
I’m not new to Voltron, but I am new to fandom, and Tumblr—only recently realising that you can talk to people about your interests over the internet instead of just in the schoolyard (my friends got so bored of me talking about Voltron). So what I’m about to discuss may already be old news, but these are my thoughts on Legendary Defender and how it compares to Voltron’s legacy.
The Role of the Black Lion and Leadership
Whilst scouring the tags, I’ve seen a recurring debate within the Voltron fandom regarding whether Keith should have been in the Black Lion or gone back to Red. Some argue that he was unfit for the position, but this perspective overlooks the franchise’s long-standing tradition. Since Defender of the Universe in the 1980s, Keith has been the Black Lion’s pilot and the leader of the team. The Black Lion has always been the heart of Voltron, piloted by the one who holds the team together and leads them into battle.

To claim Keith isn’t fit for the Black Lion is to disregard not only his character arc but also the very structure of Voltron as a franchise. From the very beginning, Keith has been the pilot of the Black Lion, just as Optimus Prime has always been the bearer of the Matrix of Leadership in Transformers. The Black Lion choosing Keith in Legendary Defender is a natural continuation of a forty-year tradition, not a sudden or undeserved shift.
However, LD wrote itself into a corner by bringing Shiro back and sidelining Keith for almost two seasons. While this allowed for Krolia’s introduction and the addition of the space wolf, which I enjoyed, it disrupted Keith’s development as a leader. Instead of organically growing into his role, Keith’s transition to leadership felt abrupt and underdeveloped. Previous versions of Voltron, such as Defender of the Universe and Voltron Force, dedicated time to showcasing Keith’s leadership qualities, making his role as the Black Lion’s pilot feel more natural. By contrast, LD’s decision to remove him from the team for an extended period created an inconsistent leadership structure that ultimately weakened his arc.
The Absence of Voltron in Voltron




One of my biggest issues with Voltron: Legendary Defender is how little the titular ‘character’ actually appears in the show. There are entire story arcs where the audience goes multiple episodes without seeing Voltron at all. This is a stark contrast to the previous Voltron series, where the lion mechs formed Voltron at least once per episode, making the giant robot a central and consistent presence.
After reading Bob Koplar’s opinions on LD, I find myself agreeing with him. Even though I was quite young when Legendary Defender first came out, I had already seen all the previous Voltron series thanks to my father. Even then, something about LD felt off to me. It wasn’t until I read Koplar’s insights that I fully understood why—it simply didn’t feel like Voltron.
And to be clear, I’m not saying Legendary Defender is a bad show. It’s a well-produced series with high-quality animation, a solid voice cast, and some genuinely good storytelling. It also brought more awareness to a brand I love, introducing a new generation of fans to Voltron. But despite its strengths, it often felt disconnected from the essence of what made Voltron special.
In every previous iteration, forming Voltron wasn’t just a moment of spectacle—it was a core part of the show’s identity. The lions coming together, the transformation sequence, the blazing sword—these weren’t just iconic visuals; they were essential to the Voltron experience. In LD, however, Voltron often felt secondary to character-driven subplots and political intrigue, which, while interesting (most of the time), took focus away from the giant robot action that defined the franchise.
The Absence of Vehicle Voltron

Voltron: Legendary Defender was marketed as a love letter to everything that came before it—a grand tribute to the Voltron legacy. But in reality, it wasn’t.
Of course, Lion Force Voltron (adapted from Beast King GoLion) is the most well-known and beloved version of the franchise, so it makes sense that LD focused on it. But if the goal was truly to unite all Voltron ideas under one roof, then why was Vehicle Voltron (Armored Fleet Dairugger XV) completely ignored?
I understand that Vehicle Voltron is more obscure, but it was still an essential part of Voltron's history. The original plan for Voltron as a franchise was that there would be three Voltrons:
Defender of the Far Universe (Lion Force),
Defender of the Middle Universe (Vehicle Voltron),
Defender of the Near Universe (Gladiator Voltron, based on Lightspeed Electroid Albegas).
However, after Vehicle Voltron proved less popular, instead of introducing Gladiator Voltron as planned, World Events Productions doubled down on Lion Force Voltron with a second season and a TV movie, Fleet of Doom. That movie featured both Lion and Vehicle Voltron teaming up, and it remains one of the most awesome moments in Voltron's history.


If LD had truly been a love letter to Voltron, it would have acknowledged all of Voltron, not just Lion Force. It would have recognised the legacy of Vehicle Voltron and drawn from its rich history instead of awkwardly repurposing its best elements. Instead, the show attempted to reinvent Voltron while sidelining key parts of its past, losing much of what made Voltron special in the first place.
Lotor’s Redefinition: A Flawed but Ambitious Adaptation
Lotor’s characterisation in Legendary Defender marks a significant departure from his portrayal in Defender of the Universe. In DotU, Prince Lotor is a sadistic, irredeemable villain. He was a brutal conqueror, a mass murderer and a serial rapist. He saw Allura as a prize rather than a person. His cruelty extended even to his own subordinates, reinforcing his role as an unambiguous antagonist.
LD, however, attempted a more complex interpretation of Lotor, depicting him as a strategic manipulator with seemingly noble intentions. He positioned himself as a reformer of the Galra Empire, standing in opposition to Zarkon’s tyranny. This reimagining was ambitious, but the execution faltered. His eventual descent into villainy in Season 6 felt rushed, as though the writers were unsure whether to portray him as a tragic anti-hero or a monstrous antagonist.
This brings me to another major problem with Legendary Defender’s handling of Lotor. If the writers wanted to create a sympathetic, deserter, reluctant ally figure, then Lotor was the wrong character to use. In Defender of the Universe, Lotor is a sadistic, cruel warlord obsessed with conquest and domination, especially when it comes to Allura. He was never a misunderstood antihero—he was pure villainy.
A far better choice for this arc would have been Commander Hazar from Vehicle Voltron. Hazar was the noble commander of the Drule forces, who realised that his people’s war against the Galaxy Alliance was doomed and sought a peaceful resolution. He had a compelling redemption arc, going from enemy to ally as he struggled against the more ruthless elements of his own empire. But instead of introducing Hazar, LD simply took his story and gave it to Lotor—likely because Lotor was the more recognisable character.

This ultimately backfired. While a sympathetic or morally ambiguous take on Lotor could have been compelling, the series failed to develop him in a consistent manner. Instead of an outright sadistic monster, LD initially portrayed him as a cunning, strategic manipulator who appeared to have noble intentions—at least on the surface. He positioned himself as a reformer of the Galra Empire, criticising Zarkon’s rule and striving for a different vision of leadership. He surrounded himself with female generals whom he treated with apparent respect, further distinguishing him from his DotU counterpart. This version of Lotor was crafted to be more sympathetic, even charismatic, to the point that Allura herself developed feelings for him, a massive departure from the horror and revulsion she held toward him in DotU.
However, the execution of Legendary Defender’s Lotor was deeply flawed. The narrative spent seasons portraying him as a potential ally, only to suddenly reveal in Season 6 that he was not only unhinged but had been engaging in horrific experiments on Alteans. His villain turn felt rushed and unearned as if the writers couldn’t decide whether they wanted him to be a tragic anti-hero or an irredeemable monster. This abrupt shift wasn’t organic—it was the result of executive intervention. According to reports, when Bob Koplar (who oversees Voltron at World Events Productions) found out the writers were trying to make Lotor good, he stepped in and pushed them to course-correct, leading to Lotor’s sudden descent into madness and atrocities.
By trying to blend Lotor and Hazar into one character, LD weakened both. Lotor lost the defining villainy that made him iconic in past series, while Hazar’s compelling redemption story was distorted by being attached to a character with too much villainous baggage. LD wanted Lotor to be both the misunderstood antihero and the ultimate evil, but in trying to have it both ways, they ruined the integrity of his arc. The greatest casualty of Lotor’s inconsistent characterisation was Allura’s arc. Instead of developing their dynamic meaningfully, the show oscillated between presenting Lotor as sympathetic and suddenly making him irredeemably evil. In DotU, Allura despised Lotor and stood firmly against his advances, representing strength and defiance in the face of oppression. In LD, she was manipulated into trusting and even falling for him, which not only contradicted her instincts as a leader but also made her later grief and anger feel hollow due to how abruptly the story shifted Lotor back into full villainy.
The Missed Opportunity of Keith and Lotor’s Rivalry in Legendary Defender


One of the biggest missteps in Voltron: Legendary Defender, I felt, was its failure to develop Keith and Lotor’s rivalry into a meaningful, ongoing conflict. In past incarnations, particularly Defender of the Universe (DotU), Lotor viewed Keith as his greatest obstacle—not just as Voltron’s leader, but as the one standing between him and Allura. He recognised that Allura harboured feelings for Keith, which fueled his hatred and provided some of the most compelling personal conflicts in the series.
In Legendary Defender, however, Keith was largely absent for two seasons, leaving little room for an adversarial relationship with Lotor. Instead of building on their natural opposition, the show reduced their interactions to a handful of confrontations, missing an opportunity to add depth to the overarching narrative. Had Keith remained with the team instead of leaving for the Blade of Marmora, his dynamic with Lotor could have taken one of two fascinating paths—either leading to a devastating betrayal or reinforcing Keith’s instincts as the voice of reason.
Keith Trusts Lotor Completely (and is Devastated by His Betrayal)
Had Keith stayed, he might have bonded with Lotor over their shared half-Galra heritage. Throughout Legendary Defender, Keith struggles with his identity, and without the Blades to guide him, he could have been drawn to someone who truly understood what it meant to exist between two worlds. Lotor presents himself as refined, strategic, and pragmatic—qualities that might have resonated with Keith as he tried to grow into his role as a leader.
With Shiro compromised by Haggar’s manipulation and Allura torn by grief and duty, Lotor could have positioned himself as Keith’s closest confidant, someone who could help him make sense of his Galra side rather than viewing it as something to suppress. This trust, however, would have made Lotor’s eventual betrayal all the more soul-crushing. It wouldn’t just be the loss of an ally—it would be the loss of the first person who made Keith feel like he didn’t have to choose between his human and Galra lineage. Given Keith’s history of abandonment—his mother leaving, his father’s death, and Shiro’s repeated disappearances—Lotor’s deception could have broken him in a way few other betrayals could.
Instead of reacting with pure anger, Keith’s devastation could have manifested as bitter disillusionment. No longer willing to trust easily, he might have hardened himself further, becoming even more closed-off and reluctant to open up. This would have been a poignant subversion of past Voltron incarnations, where Keith and Lotor were always enemies. In DotU and Voltron Force, there was never any question of them being on the same side—Lotor was a power-hungry prince, and Keith was the noble leader standing in his way. Legendary Defender could have played with audience expectations by making Keith believe Lotor was different, only to have that belief shattered.
Keith Doesn’t Trust Lotor at All (and Becomes the Voice of Reason)
On the other hand, Keith’s blunt, no-nonsense attitude and strong instincts might have made him the first to see through Lotor’s deception. Keith is an intuitive fighter—he acts on gut feelings, and more often than not, those instincts are correct. He was the first to suspect something was wrong with Shiro, the first to push for finding the Blade of Marmora, and the first to embrace his Galra heritage when others hesitated. If Keith had remained with the Paladins, he might have immediately sensed that Lotor wasn’t as noble as he claimed.
This would have led to a compelling internal conflict within the team. Shiro (or rather, his clone) trusted Lotor. Allura, yearning for hope, wanted to believe in his sincerity. The rest of the Paladins were hesitant but willing to follow Shiro’s lead. If Keith stood alone in his distrust, it could have isolated him, forcing him into a position where he felt like an outsider even among his own team. This tension would have mirrored his past struggles with authority—just as he distrusted the Garrison and later the Blades, he would have once again found himself at odds with those around him, questioning an alliance everyone else was willing to accept.
This slow-burning antagonism between Keith and Lotor could have been an excellent way to preserve their classic rivalry. Instead of being immediate enemies, their conflict could have simmered beneath the surface—Lotor, ever the manipulator, attempting to win Keith over, while Keith steadfastly refused to be fooled. When Lotor’s true nature was finally revealed, the impact would have been far greater, as Keith would have been proven right—but at a cost. His relationship with his team could have suffered in the process, with the others only realising too late that he had been the only one who saw Lotor for who he truly was.
Both of these potential storylines would have strengthened Keith’s character arc—either by forcing him to confront betrayal on a deeply personal level or by cementing his role as an unshakable leader who sees through deception when no one else can. More importantly, they would have restored the weight of Keith and Lotor’s rivalry, making it more than just a handful of scattered battles.
Instead, Legendary Defender kept Keith and Lotor largely separate, missing an opportunity to explore their ideological clashes, personal similarities, and the devastating consequences of Lotor’s deception. By discarding their dynamic for two seasons, the show ultimately failed to capitalise on one of Voltron’s most compelling rivalries—a conflict that, in past versions, had always been at the heart of the story.
My Issue with LD’s Canon Romance
If there’s one franchise where the canon pairing didn’t work for me, it’s Voltron: Legendary Defender. Normally, I’m content with canon ships—I love Hiccstrid (How to Train Your Dragon), the Doctor and River Song (Doctor Who), Kataang (Avatar: The Last Airbender), and Anakin/Padmé (Star Wars). But in LD, the decision to end with Lance and Allura felt like a fundamental misunderstanding of Voltron as a whole.

For over thirty years, Voltron consistently paired Keith and Allura. Their romantic tension was a recurring element in Defender of the Universe (second season), The Third Dimension, Voltron Force, and even the Dynamite comics. Legendary Defender, however, sidelined their dynamic and abruptly pushed Lance and Allura together at the last minute without meaningful buildup. Their relationship lacked organic development, making it feel forced and unearned.




I, like many fans found the canon ending unsatisfying, but instead of Kallura, the most dominant ships in the fandom became Klance (Keith/Lance) and Sheith (Keith/Shiro), which honestly baffles me. Sheith, in particular, feels uncomfortable—not just because of the age difference, but because Keith explicitly refers to Shiro as his brother. Their dynamic is built on a strong mentor-protégé bond, which makes any romantic interpretation feel… wrong.
Klance is equally confusing to me. Keith and Lance spend most of the show at odds, their relationship defined by rivalry and bickering. I've seen arguments that Lance is bisexual and Keith is gay, but I could find no actual evidence in the show to support this. Lance openly flirts with multiple women (Allura, Nyma, Plaxum), but never once shows interest in men. Keith, on the other hand, isn’t depicted as romantically interested in anyone, male or female—though there are moments where he subtly notices Allura (noticed by people far smarter than myself). On my first watch, it seemed to me that the writers were setting up Keith and Acxa.
I will say that I don’t like these two ships, but it's fine if you do, I’m not judging. I’m just curious to hear from people who do ship these pairings. What is it about Klance or Sheith that resonates with you? Is there something in their dynamic that I might be missing? Maybe my perspective is limited or some gay subtext that my stupid hetero-focused brain can't process, so I’d love to understand why these ships became so popular.
Conclusion
Voltron: Legendary Defender set out to modernise and reimagine a beloved franchise, and while it succeeded in some areas, I felt it ultimately fell short in honouring Voltron’s full legacy. The series introduced fresh character dynamics, impressive animation, and ambitious storytelling, but its execution often felt inconsistent. Keith’s arc as the Black Lion’s pilot was hindered by narrative disruptions, Vehicle Voltron was ignored despite its historical significance, and Lotor’s character was muddled by conflicting portrayals. The rivalry between Keith and Lotor, a defining element of past iterations, was underdeveloped, missing a key opportunity for deeper storytelling.
Despite its flaws, LD reignited interest in Voltron for a new generation and expanded the franchise’s fanbase. It brought new perspectives to familiar characters and offered an engaging, if imperfect, reimagining of the classic series. However, by disregarding core elements of Voltron’s past, it failed to fully embrace the legacy it sought to celebrate.
Disclaimer
Everything stated in this post is purely my opinion. I’m sharing my personal thoughts and interpretations, and I understand that others may see things differently. Feel free to discuss this respectfully. Upon re-reading this, I realise it might sound a bit gatekeep-y. I'm not using this as an excuse to bash anyone else's opinions or claim my own as superior. I'm simply using it as a way to perhaps educate about what came before and understand what is now. Like what you like and don't what you don't, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone. If you’re interested in learning more about the previous Voltron series (mostly DotU), I highly recommend checking out @voltronfandomhag. They haven’t posted anything in a while, but they are an absolute treasure trove, and their insights were invaluable to me while writing this.
#Voltron#Voltron Legendary Defender#VLD#Voltron Force#Voltron Defender of the Universe#DotU#80s Voltron#Voltron fandom#Voltron analysis#VLD criticism#Voltron discourse#Voltron hot take#Voltron reboot discussion#Keith Kogane#Prince Lotor#Lotor deserved better or worse#Princess Allura#Lance Mcclain#Keith vs Lotor#Black Paladin Keith#Lotor character arc#VLD missed opportunities#Vehicle Voltron deserved better#kallura#klance#sheith#anti klance#anti sheith#anti allurance
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Thoughts on the rise of percildan and vexleth? I wonder why the up kick all of the sudden.
long answer: tlovm had two skinny men disagree with each other, which was enough for roving slash shippers to crop the women out of the screenshots and then pretend to ship them together to get them out of the way. also we've long had a weird contingent of laurisha and taliam shippers who avert RPF by a truly nose-hair-shaving margin, and laura and liam made gestures in a wired interview a month ago that it could happen in an "all ships are valid" sorta way
short answer: fifa and cod are popular too
#still very funny to me that the night before the malleus key vex sisterzoned keyleth and sent her off with trinket#so she could proceed to blow her husband's back out while they were away from their five kids#meanwhile marisha and keyleth are both making it clear keyleth refuses to move on from vax#and every time percy has seen champion!vax he keeps bein like TALK TO YOUR SISTER AND GIRLFRIEND DUMBASS#like to be clear this could happen in a 'what if vld ends with allura dying' sorta way it would just be a huge downgrade narratively#also apparently it's percildan week? i've had to take out a lotta trash in the percy tag#cr discourse#asks
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As someone who works on our meta team said,
“I find it interesting that the same entity that made poor decisions with their own IP and TV show project with DW, meddled executively to have such a subpar ending, is now farming for views with one of those removal decisions and with queer baiting comments in the lead up to said movie.
Not the social team’s fault especially if they don’t know and have just been told to do it probably, but it is still very irresponsible and messy.”
(Allegedly)
Anyway.
#voltron#vld#vld meta#we didn’t say it but…#allegedly#the difference between Voltron and Shera was the IP holders#that’s all#not trying to start discourse ofc
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i forgot how much i love season 7 🥹
episodes 7 and 8 always bring me to tears, I love humanity. these are such good episodes.
this is how i feel whenever i watch s7e4:
#ignoring lance's mistreatment#i hate that they made him the butt of every joke#the “lance needs to be bullied” arc is not my fave#sorry i feel like my boy's been wronged#i skipped s7e4 (the feud) cause i simply don't like it#anyway#james griffin is hot#i love voltron#i love the storyline#i'm curious if i'll like season 8#i only watched it once#it was friday/saturday and i binged it and i literally stared into the void when i finished it and started crying because what???#freshman 2018 steph was not having it#shipping discourse aside i can't remember if i liked the storyline#i HATED the ending#THE LIONS WERE RIGHT THERE#steph after hours#voltron legendary defender#voltron: legendary defender#vld#vld lance#lance mcclain#lance voltron#voltron lance#voltron#james griffin#vld allura#voltron season 7
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“We need more mean women characters!” Bitch, you couldn’t even handle her!

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ugh, okay. i know i try to avoid discourse, especially when it's via my original content, but this is really pissing me off so i just need to take a risk of backlash and get this out there.
i was recently reminded of a youtube video from a while back (reuploaded below) that i really did not like, despite it kind of having a point (albeit for the wrong reasons) but now i can articulate why:
if you watch this without context like an average viewer of the show, it just looks like a genre of fan-made edits that i absolutely adore, which is highlighting parallels & patterns between characters. the problem is that this was made with the intention to paint such existence as a bad thing; that is, to accuse catradora moments in season five of "ripping off" or copying from prior scenes of glimmadora.
to borrow from a comment i left, as a multishipper of both... i simply love that these parallel each other. i'm a huge fan of recognizable repetition that isn't extremely obvious or carelessly spoon-fed to the audience. i don't see this as "i'm upset because my preferred ship isn't canon (however valid that is by itself), so the one that is stole from me, and that's bad" but rather "it's cool, and in a good way kind of ironic, that these two rival ships among fandom have so much in common." i don't want to negate how anyone feels or their right to have other beliefs but i see this as a positive thing, or at least neutral if nothing else, so i just don't understand what the big deal is.
the thing i'm mad about, personally, is how we can never get along and just respect each other's preferences. i think that's actually a more pressing issue that we should be taking seriously as opposed to kids' cartoon ship wars, and that's not even exclusive to SPOP. i'm not sure how many are left over this year, but i know a lot of us initially came in waves after being disappointed with voltron when it ended, and similar stuff happened between klance/sheith shippers (mind you, i was not a multishipper in that case, but i still had the decency to respect the other team even if i criticized it and mostly leave that community alone).
so, from a different perspective, i choose to appreciate this video for (accidentally?) connecting two of the most important main relationships in she-ra.
this is not an attempt to change the creator/reuploader's minds, nor is it meant to come across as inconsiderate of someone who disagrees with me. that being said, we are both as separate parties allowed to express ourselves with the same media and form our own judgements based off it.

#spop#she ra#she-ra#she-ra and the princesses of power#catradora#glimmadora#catra#adora#glimmer#parallels#analysis#discourse#voltron#vld#klance#sheith#lance#keith#shiro
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aita in this ao3 comment thread
I don’t think it’s needed but for context this is a transmasc pwp that doesnt use afab language
Also if nobody tells me otherwise I’m gonna continue to think I absolutely ate them up at the end, so if you disagree I’d appreciate an explanation :)
comment exchange under the cut
me I’m so confused can someone please explain what keith’s anatomy actually looks like for context I missed the trans tags before reading this and spent the entirety of the fic violently confused as to what is going on (im trans) I appreciate the usage of gender neutral language but esp bc I didn’t realize he was trans here I just. don’t know whats going on??????? help me please I was like, “is this referencing foreskin….? does this person not know what a dick looks like? is keith intersex or something? uhhh” before I decided to go and check the tags and the comments and realized lol
them what about this made you feel like it was appropriate to comment?
me it was a genuine question?? Excuse me for being confused and wanting to be able to visualize the fic better, especially as a fellow trans person...
them your phrasing is really rude, intentional or not. I’m using language that describe mine and other trans men’s real life bodies. if you don’t get it, that’s fine, you’re not the target audience - but it’s not my job to explain it to you. leaving a comment about how it’s so confusing and weird is not the way to ask a genuine question, especially one about trans genitalia. yes, even if you’re also trans. I feel like that’s common sense. please gain some.
me I’m sorry if my phrasing came off as rude, I didn’t indend for it to be seen that way and I generally struggle with tone and phrasing. I commented my confusion over the vague phrasing and lack of description that might otherwise be inherent, and I merely wished to express my lack of understanding and willingness to learn more, which honestly isn’t that common on the internet. If this were about a real person’s body and a real person’s identity, I understand why more reservation and politeness would be necessary; however, since I’m commenting on something fictional that you wrote and posted for anyone to see, asking questions about your word usage and the body of a fictional character, I don’t think it’s justified to feel like I need to walk on eggshells when expressing this. Also, when I called it confusing, I felt it was implied that I was referring to your usage of vague descriptive terminology that nobody outside of your circle would be able to comprehend and picture, especially when they didn’t realize it was a trans fic at first. I also never said anything about it being weird, I actually said the opposite so idk where you got that from. I hope you have a good day and get off your high horse, I don’t see what reason you had to be so aggressive in response to someone asking a question, especially when most would probably jump to insults and hate. Hopefully from now on you no longer feel attacked when someone asks for clarification on your work, and you gain the ability to hold a respectful conversation without jumping to insults like “gain some common sense.” also idk why you responded in the first place instead of just deleting my comment and moving on if you felt it was so rude— I feel like that’s common sense nowadays, but perhaps you were looking for an argument. Good luck on your journey to kindness and hope you have a good rest of your day! :)
#vld#voltron#keith kogane#klance#lance mcclain#fanfiction#fanfic#ao3#ao3 argument#transgender#transmasc#discourse#trans discourse#aita#am i the asshole#comment thread on ao3#giggles#because I absolutely demolished them#feel free to prove me wrong
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I mainly ship and let ship, but there are some Voltron ships where if I even get the slightest clue that you like the pairing i have to block you and made a shame post about what I just saw immediately
#Obviously not mentioning u in the shame post. I'm just go “y'all won't believe what i just saw”#shitpost#fandom#shipping#headcanon#shipping discourse#voltron#hunk vld#vld pidge#shiro vld#vld lance#vld keith#vld lotor#vld allura#allura vld#allura#keith kogane#keith voltron
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Why Allura's Death Was Unsatisfying
You know, I think the reason Allura's death was so unsatisfying was that there was no buildup or closure to it.
I've been thinking about. Major character death isn't new to audiences, and it can be done well. It's sad, yes, and not wanted by most means, but it's possible to have it written in a way where it not only
makes sense, but
delivers closure to both the character and the story
So how do stories do this? I've found the biggest way is through buildup.
We as the audience already know, or at the very least have a feeling, that this character is going to die. Maybe they are destined to die by prophecy, or have some sort of illness that has no cure. Whatever it is, we have the suspicion that this character might not make it to the end.
Another thing is that when a character dies, it serves to wrap their character development and personal arcs. They have grown to be the most ideal version of themselves within the confines of the show, and now they're moving on.
This is satisfying to the audience. It makes sense.
Allura's death has neither of these things.
There was no buildup to her death. For a majority of the show, fans expected Voltron to end with all of the seven main characters alive, because there was no need to expect otherwise. The writers did not give us a sign that someone might possibly sure. So when Allura dies at the end of the show, it's sudden, and it feels almost abrupt in a way.
It didn't wrap up her character arc. Now there's a lot of controversy on whether or not characters even acted remotely like themselves in Season 8, and I'm not going to get into that. It was clear though, that Allura still had a lot growing and learning to do, what we were meant to interpret after the show's ending. She also never really got the chance to be a leader or avenge her nation the way she wanted to. Sure, she defeated the Galra Empire, but she still needed to rebuild Altean civilization and fix what the Galra had destroyed for the entire universe. She doesn't get to do any of that.
In conclusion, Allura would have been better off as a character had she not died, OR, they should have written Allura's arc differently in a way that it would make sense for her to die. She simply had too much to look forward to after the events of the show that nothing of her personal arc got tied up with her death.
Free my poor girl she did nothing wrong.
#voltron#essay#in this essay i will#tedtalk#vld#voltron legendary defender#allura voltron#voltron allura#discourse#vld allura#allura vld#princess allura#hot take#voltron season 8
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You know what?
Fuck it
I gotta speak from truths and since the VLD tag is gonna be active today in light of it leaving Netflix, I gotta say something about this picture:

The context has been lost to time and, to my understanding, LMAO herself has since deleted the tweet after the fandom became rabid
But folks
FOLKS
This was posted on her Twitter account the night of the 2016 election
That's it.
That was literally all it ever was.
There was no secret hints about Lance being bi and no intention of such and certainly not queerbait. It was acknowledgement to a traumatized fan base that they were seen and that it would be okay.
Neither she nor JDS were perfect and absolutely deserve criticism for the last third of the show but this was not it.
#vld#voltron legendary defender#voltron legendary disappointment#lauren montgomery#vld salt#granted i have said TIIC did themselves no favors by making themselves as available to fas as they did#it doesnt excuse harrassment#but my god would the discourse have dropped in half if ppl on the show just STFU more
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So like I (walter) started rewatching Voltron (2017) with my friends (who haven't seen the show before)
and like we haven't gotten past the first season but I first watched Voltron pre egg-cracking and watching in now with my (queer) friends I realized just how relatable Pidge is to me? like even if we keep everything cannon Pidge still reads trans masc to me they just haven't realized it yet.
They didn't have to crossdress to go to the garison they did that willingly. There are also many other ways that they could have disguised themself (hair dye for example) without trying to appear as a guy.
And yes, they assert that they are a girl to the team! But this could be for a variety of reasons! I thought that my desire to transition was something perfectly normal for most cis girls. I thought that wanting a binder and wanting to take testosterone was a perfectly cis feeling (I was delusional). So one could argue that Pidge just hasn't bothered to explore their gender yet? I was a child who would in fact assert that I was a girl. The fact that Pidge does that doesn't mean that they can't be trans masc.
and this isn't to say that pidge is 100% trans masc! they aren't but i think that trans masc pidge is just as valid as a reading as trans fem reading.
Also if you are going to say that this is taking away rep from young girls kindly fuck off. I was pressured to not transition because I would be taking away a good role model for young girls wanting to get into STEM. Young trans boys also deserve to see themselves in media.
#Voltron#can't believe i am adding my two sense to discourse that is 7 yearss old#retrospective#pidge#ftm pidge#like yes pidge could also be enby but I feel like a lot of people are on board with that#walter melons#VLD#you don't have to agree with me or anything#i just had some feelings#cannon is not king or anything#like even if there was no cannon evidence#that doesn't mean that trans/queer headcannons can't exist#fandom is supposed to be fun#discource#technically
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i was born to pick fights on the internet. too bad im niceys now
#thunder rambles#girl so many of my formative years spent in mlp and vld spaces.... these hands were built for discoursin'#but i don't discourse<3 because i know better now<3
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Well, Bex Taylor Klaus wants to do a tell all on Voltron Legendary Defender. Thought she or another soul would want to save this for a milestone like the show being removed from Netflix (Apparently it’s leaving the platform forever December 14, 2024) or Amazon Studios/MGM casting their live-action Voltron movie. I guess there’s the fact that the Filipino GMA network managed to release a live-action Voltes V and announce a live action Tosho Daimos before a live action Voltron movie because of how badly Legendary Defender hurt the brand.
Anyway, considering Bex was ALLEGEDLY one of the behind the scenes voices pushing for representation and the altering of scenes in Season 8, this oughta be quite the crapstorm. Let’s see if she can explain why the giant robot show that should have been the easiest thing to market got a fandom that was so brutally insane and creatives that hated giant robots.
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