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I just watched K-Pop Demon Hunters and MAN.
WHAT IS THERE TO SAY THAT HASN’T BEEN SAID?! It’s gorgeous, the music is on LOOP in both my head and on my phone, the character designs are CHEFS KISS, the characters are IMMACULATE, the animation is PERFECTION.
It’s just a really great movie and I’m lowkey OBSESSED WITH IT.
But a thing I noticed a lot of people saying when I was scrolling about Instagram looking at the REELS UPON REELS OF HUNTRIX AND SAJA BOYS…was people saying that both Zoey and Mira were BAD friends and shouldn’t have been forgiven because of what they did to Rumi.
HUH.
Before I RIP THAT ARGUMENT APART! I will just say from what I’ve seen it’s less than five comments, so try not to make it a big deal…I can though as I’m not only gonna talk about how WRONG that is but also about how WELL WRITTEN this movie is.
So basically the reel I saw on instagram was about how both Zoey and Mira raised up their weapons against Rumi and how Zoey only had TWO of her blades instead of her usual six and everyone in the comments were talking about how SAD this scene was and it is and I saw a comment that I will not lie, it grinded my GEARS.
It basically said something along the lines that Mira and Zoey shouldn’t have been forgiven and the only person that really accepted Rumi was Jinu. Even saying something like “No wonder Rumi feared telling them…THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Which sure, you can say that it’s your opinion.
But my argument is that they were never even GIVEN A CHANCE.
Multiple times in the movie, Rumi had chances to tell them, when they all sat down in the couch scene for example, their makeup was off, they were being vulnerable…it would have been a great time to talk to them, TO TELL THEM.
But Rumi didn’t. I’m not blaming Rumi here, she has a lot of self hatred and she knows that with the SAJA Boys breathing down their necks that it was a bad time to probably drop that bombshell but I would argue there would never be a good time to drop something as heavy as “Hey guys, sorry for lying to you guys but I’m actually THE THINGS WE SWORE WE WOULD PROTECT THE WORLD FROM.” Like that WILL NOT GO OVER WELL IN ANY SITUATION. But she had multiple chances to but didn’t and she had her reasons why but so were the girls as they were under a lot of pressure too. By Celine.
Celine I don’t hate. I don’t like her but she is a good antagonist, not a villain like the Demon King, but she is someone who unintentionally set the girls up to fail.
She obviously held Rumi to the highest standards out of all the girls but Zoey and Mira still were held up by impossible expectations and standards too, to hide any imperfections and all, literally after Rumi fumbled the first Golden Live Performance and they all sit down, they all mention- “hehe silly Celine, but yeah no she is right hide your flaws.” They were held up HIGH, because they were supposed to make the Golden Honmoon, if not their world could be susceptible to demon attacks. They have hard lives too, being in the lime light AND having to sing and dance to perfection to reach the Honmoon WHILE ALSO FIGHTING DEMONS. These girls seem like they’re in their early twenties so DAMN.
What I’m trying to say, in their perspective they had the right to be suspicious and even scared of Rumi after finding out she’s a demon.
Imagine their perspective, Rumi has been pushing them to achieve the Golden Honmoon, then suddenly she gets all chummy with a DEMON (Jinu) and they are worried for her voice and her because she’s acting off, like she’s hiding something then after seeing Bobby getting kidnapped, SIKE ITS DEMONS, then BOOM…Rumi is a demon.
They don’t know what to believe and I won’t lie, watching that scene. I would’ve reacted similarly to Zoey. I wouldn’t want to hurt my friend but Rumi was SCARY. She was scared and vulnerable but her demon voice literally shook the building. Mira has the right to be angry, Zoey has the right to feel scared while Rumi has the right to feel EVERYTHING.
I like how complex the story is, because I see no wrong sides here. Rumi should’ve told them but she was groomed to believe that she was WRONG and the only way to right that wrong was to achieve the Golden Honmoom and Zoey and Mira were probably taught by Celine that all demons are MONSTERS.
Celine is the true cause of all this discourse because she couldn’t accept who Rumi was. She was a hunter but also a demon, she LEGITIMATELY SAID that when they lost Rumi’s mom, she said she would protect what was left her mom’s legacy, not thinking there was a CHILD. That scene breaks my heart as she COULDN’T EVEN TOUCH RUMI’S CHEEK TO COMFORT HER. She couldn’t love all of Rumi. She couldn’t love her flaws, in her eyes Rumi’s flaw was her demon side, but that isn’t a flaw…she was just born that way and that’s okay.
Celine is such a complex character because even though we DON’T KNOW all the details of her and her sisters (I’m assuming the Sunlight Sisters are actual Sisters) we know she probably pushed her sisters away because of her need for PERFECTION. She pushed that onto Rumi, Mira and Zoey…
Because she couldn’t accept Rumi, Rumi couldn’t accept herself and that caused her to keep massive secrets and that caused a rift between HUNTRIX. It’s so complex and complicated and…beautiful.
To see that it’s not cut and dry and black and white. It’s more grey, that’s what I love about this movie. It’s AMAZING and that’s why I love This is What it’s Sounds Like, because it covers all those JUICY WRITING AND YESSSS.
Hopefully this makes sense, I’ll probably rant more about my headcannons about Celine, the Sunlight Sisters and even Rumi’s mom and MOREEEEEE! Because this movie is a GOLD MINE of detail and crafted with such love.
It’s the closest thing to perfect even with all its flaws…see what I did there-

I don’t have a favourite I love them all equally.
#k-pop demon hunters#random thoughts#random rant#writing nuances#complex characters#you can’t HANDLE THE COMPLEXITY SOME OF YALL JUST CANT-#writing is fun#movies#k pop demon hunters#rumi kpdh#zoey kpdh#mira kpdh#antagonist is different from villains
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you know, you know. no gods, no masters, no kings on pedestals. everyone is fallible. death of the author. you know! you are balanced about your intake of media - you allow the wiggle room, the grace, the gratitude, the skepticism. nobody above criticism.
but still. a weird gut-punch feeling, something akin to betrayal. you read the article. surprise! an author you love is actually: a serial fucking predator.
well, shit. what now. no, you knew he was a person (all people are), but now you're wondering - what have i overlooked by accident? what messages have i internalized that are strange and cruel? and also, like, what the fuck?
his actions lay a thick glaze on top of everything. like each place is now ruined, opaque in a new way. but okay, fine, you've done this before. you knew better, right? you've been betrayed by many a cherished childhood author.
still, this stickiness. fuck. can you pick up that book again. will you read it to your children. you've recommended it to others - will you ever do that again? and of course, of course, no parasocial relationships. you were theoretically above this kind of sentiment. but the artist informs the art, right.
so it's not something as clear-cut as feeling he owed you, specifically (a stranger) better behavior - just that you kind of, in a distant and odd way... sort of trusted him to do better. it's not like a real trust or something speakable, just the faint hope that the product (good books) was a thin representation of the soul. now it feels like the product (good? books?) was a mask. in some small or insignificant way, your previous support of this person lent them power. your money and your time and your laughter.
and the thing is - you have this terrible, echoing sensation. how many times will this happen? over and over. you find out that the singer you love is actually a predator. you learn over drinks that your favorite high school english teacher is in jail for what he did to her. you listen to the news idly and suddenly discover that a woman you used to idolize has been abusing her kids for an actual eon.
what can you touch without the static melting off. you can't even really complain about it too much (you were supposed to know better, and besides, you don't want the same re-split "it's not your fault, love what you love" basic advice), but now it's here. somehow, it feels like - you let him into your life.
it's not that things need to be pure or an artist has to be like, endlessly perfect, mindful. demure. it's more just this terrible truth that has been replayed through your veins so often it feels criminally vain. power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. did you want any one person to be worth that power?
it's just that he wrote books where he seemed to understand that. he seemed to know about hierarchies and unfair systems and bigotry and privilege. you thought they were books about what it means to struggle. you thought they were about having power and still using it for good rather than for control. he spooned you a narrative of being a good guy, a kind soul. you fucking bought what that fucking monster sold.
maybe that's why they were fantasies, after all.
#spilled ink#warm up#oh im .... sick to my stomach.#i talked to him. like ....... we talked. that man interacted with my poetry and writing.#that article.... gutwrenching. i am so sorry to everyone he's ever even been in the room with.#i feel.... like... unbearably. sick.#he acted like he was cool and friends with me!! we were cool internet writers together!!!!!#i feel sick for even having been polite to him.#i ...... am experiencing something so fucking complicated.#i wonder how many of u are feeling that too. like ''oh i sent him an ask and he was funny and sweet''#THATS HOW THEY GET U. ..... and YES I KNOW!!!#i am so fucking well-read about parasocial relationships. it would just be nice to like. trust that someone ISNT#hiding a huge fucking background of BEING A COMPLETE MONSTER. LIKE WHAT THE FUCK.#by the way i am not part of a fandom. this is “what the fuck i accidentally supported a rapist” not#“but my showww”. like i care far more about like. the human cost.#but also like... people are people. idk i saw a take on here about how nobody should mourn the books#and idk. people almost always reply to any scenario with their personal experience first -#''i knew him'' or ''wow i was just at that store'' or ''i grew up there'' or whatever. because that is how we establish connection &#emotional weight. that's just... a person thing. and there is a difference between 'oh this guy is a monster'' & the feeling of:#he's been a monster and i SUPPORTED THAT. i CELEBRATED him. i !!! a fucking victim myself!!!!!!!!! SUPPORTED . HIM.#i am sick. i feel so much pain for her and everyone he's ever hurt. saying ''the books are ruined'' is i think ... like how people say#they're shocked and disgusted by him. (obviously there's nuance here. im sure there's some creep doin it wrong. but u know. in general)#idk..... im an author. i understand my work is in your life in whatever small way. i understand that connection. it's real.
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(i have a feeling this poll will get way more views than some of my other ones so I am once again asking you to fill out https://forms.gle/66bRngwjD2fzWX7p6 if you know anything about the character)
#art#artwork#writing#fanfiction#as someone who writes and draws drawing is far more difficult but i’m curious what other people think (hence the url)#fanart#polls#tumblr polls#my polls#feel free to leave your nuanced answers in comments/reblogs#reblogging for sample size is appreciated
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Come watch dungeon meshi we have a (seemingly) typical white autistic man who doesn't understand social norms, an autistic man of colour who overcompensates for social deficits by being too good at social norms (while still struggling socially), and we even have the "grew up autistic but also Asian so I have a very good understanding of cultural and social norms but I still struggle socially" variety of autistic man.
#this post lacks a great deal of nuance obviously#but seriously i love how toshiro/shuro kabru and laios are all so clearly autistic just in very different ways#you dont get to see that often in media#and Ryoko Kui's writing is really good so she's able to explore the dynamic in pretty interesting ways#dungeon meshi#laios touden#shuro dungeon meshi#toshiro nakamoto#shuro dunmeshi#dunmeshi#kabru of utaya#kabru dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#kabru
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I'm not the kind of person that's like "Here let me fix the canon" usually but like holy crap gen 5 implied a lot of messed up shit about our hero Twilight Sparkle lmao
#It almost says something about the dangers of undertakin responsabilities alone#the nuanced idea of putting heroes on a pedestal being inherently self destructive#hell its kind of funny that Sunny idolizing her is objectively wrong#her legacy was a house of cards!#but I digress#I hope this post isnt swinging a bat at a hornet's nest#but y'know#this is also related to my fics lmao#bc of course#twilight sparkle#sunset shimmer#gen 4#gen 5#pony posting#mlp gen 4#my little pony#friendship is magic#Also like. Celestia herslef regretted banishing luna#and shes happier ruling WITH a partner#meanwhile twilight is like “Ok im not even on my thirties time to undertake all of this”#bonkers! Nuts!#its almost like. entirely accurate#entirely purposefull that her rule would fail completely#Wouldn't it be fucking sick for sunset to try again#to give it another shot!!!#now that shes better#changed for the better by none other than twi#i wrote fics of this lmaooo#fanfiction#writing stuff
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Asterism book cover
#marcia#IT IS DONE!!!!#ASTERISM BOOK COVER REAL!!!#THANK YOU BEST FRIEND FOR WRITING A BOOK FOR ME WITH MY BELOVED OCS FROM MY WEBCOMIC IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TALK ABOUT THEM!!!!!!!!!!#THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THE NUANCES OF THEIR STORIES PERHAPS BETTER THAN I DO!!!!!!!!!#I LOVE THIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#the clockmaster#tcm#orion lavont#garret#rosie lavont#heriot nysa#morgana jackson#superhero au#asterism#illustration#digital art#original art#artists on tumblr#character art#marciaillust
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“Bad” victims— @ꜰɪʟʟᴇᴅᴡɪᴛʜᴜʀɪɴᴇ ᴘᴏꜱᴛ // ʀɪᴄʜᴀʀᴅ ꜱɪᴋᴇɴ, ꜱɪᴅᴇᴡᴀʟᴋ // ɪɴᴛᴇʀᴠɪᴇᴡ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴀᴍᴘɪʀᴇ (2022) // ᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇ ʟʏɴꜱᴋɪᴇ ᴏɴ ꜱʜᴀᴜɴᴀ ꜱʜɪᴘᴍᴀɴ // @manywinged ᴘᴏꜱᴛ // ʙʀᴇɴɴᴀɴ ʟᴇᴇ ᴍᴜʟʟɪɢᴀɴ // @ʟᴀᴛᴇɴɪɢʜᴛᴛᴀʟᴋ ᴘᴏꜱᴛ // ꜱᴜᴄᴄᴇꜱꜱɪᴏɴ (2018) // ɢɪʟʟɪᴀɴ ꜰʟʏɴɴ, ɢᴏɴᴇ ɢɪʀʟ // ʟɪᴅɪᴀ ʏᴜᴋɴᴀᴠɪᴛᴄʜ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜʀᴏɴᴏʟᴏɢʏ ᴏꜰ ᴡᴀᴛᴇʀ
#i hate the revenge bad narrative.#am bitch. i will not apologize for being bitch.#something something nuance something something we do not exist to be palatable and docile and chirpy something something turning the mirror#towards your abusers and going you did this to me and you should eat a gun for it.#horror#web weaving#writing#abuse survivor
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I love Companion Benny. I love the idea that he gets huffy-puffy and “just a little” jealous if you switch him out for another companion. He simply cannot cope with the fact that you’d toss him aside like yesterday’s trash for… what, some scribe in rags? A boring-ass first recon guy? A vaquero ghoul? (ok he thinks Raul is kinda cool actually but he won’t openly admit that)?? Benny has STORIES, baby. Interest. Intrigue. You wanna know all the juicy strip gossip? Guess what, you CANT now because you DISMISSED him. How DARE you.
Benny is VERSATILE, baby. His tagged skills are guns, melee, and unarmed. Good luck finding another companion that can do what he can. Yeah Craig “Frowns” Boone can headshot a cazador from a million yards away or whatever, *mumbling* show-off, he would’ve seen that cazador eventually *end mumbling* but Benny can shoot, stab, AND punch. Hey courier, watch this. I’m gonna punch the fuck out of this deathclaw. He does it (you gotta administer a few stimpaks) BUT HE DID IT. And he was only at half health. 400+ health honeybaby, Benny can take a few whacks from those deathclaw freaks. What was that? Showing off? Benny doesn’t have to show off, sugar plum. He’s just that good.
He also won’t complain that his feet are getting tired. Yeah he’ll complain about minor inconveniences and wants you to do something about them regardless if you realistically can or not, but at least he’ll walk miles upon miles in a day and not complain. He also won’t complain about going back to the Lucky 38. (he’ll just complain about not being able to get in there before the Courier showed up.) What, no one else complains about their feet hurting? Uhhhh BOOT-RIDERS. Silly name. But that’s how they rode the Mojave, dig? On their feet. He’s done this before. Experienced.
AND ANOTHER THING. how many companions shout words of encouragement during a fight. Go on. He’s waiting.
You’re doing great, baby! Show these punk losers what you got!!
I bet all the caps in Vegas you’ll miss that while getting shot to shit by the Fiends or whatever. Grumble. Benny hopes you come back in one piece, of course. He’d just rather see to it himself that you remain in one piece. Uhh BECAUSE HE’S JUST THAT GR-
(The courier left with their choice of companion hours ago. Swank is trying to work but Benny won’t stop gabbing his ear off. Dear god Benny just go be the Head of The Chairmen somewhere else. Swank is trying to do actual work here.)
#benny gecko#fnv benny#fnv#fallout new vegas#benny fnv#swank#fnv swank#craig boone#veronica santangelo#raul tejada#this post wasn’t supposed to get this long uhhhh#I’m trying to write Sadie and Benny’s dynamic to finally get it out of my head and onto paper#but the Benny brainrot fully took hold lol#wtf.txt#this is INCREDIBLY tongue in cheek btw pls dont think this extreme over the top nonsense is how i see benny SHDHD#though i DO stand behind him being jealous af and complaining to swank about it as if he wasnt jealous (he is)#i just love benny sm i'll write a more nuanced post abt him at some point im sure!#but for now pls enjoy whatever this is
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This is so devastating.
Looking for new recruits to fight in a war from fourth grade through high school.
#one of those things that just jump out at u when reading the series as an adult#4th graders are about 9 years old to put that in perspective#depending on ur bday and stuff#and we know in chb demigods rarely make it to adulthood#even in botl percy mentions theseus was his age when he died (14/15)#being a demigod in pjo is like ... u either die of a monster attack before you can make it “safely” to chb#or you die in war before ever reaching adulthood#dont get me started on how all of this is handled in later books of the series btw.#ultimately nothing has changed#pjo had things to say#all of it is now either forgotten or made to seem like its no big deal#and i feel like its a bit relevant to mention rick's response on how he claims that demigods are more resilient when it comes to ptsd#he was pertaining to percy and annabeth after tartarus but the implication of his response is horrible#when u consider how he handles all this now (camp jupiter etc)#all these things are glossed over now simply bc he cant bring himself to write it with the nuance it requires#thalia grace#percy jackson#nico di angelo#annabeth chase#bianca di angelo#grover underwood#chiron pjo#pjo#the titans curse#pjo reread#cin's txt.#mine
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I've talked a lot about why Andreil are so special to me, but not until my 3rd read of The Kings Men have I truly been able to pin it down. on page 110 (TKM) Neil comments that "Aaron was staring at Andrew like he'd never seen him before" in referral to Andrew attacking Allison because she hit Aaron. and it just BECAUSE HE FUCKING HASN'T and urghhhh I just get so feral over this because for the ENTIRE SERIES it's just so painfully obviously that Andrew's own family doesn't FUCKING GET HIMMMM they call him crazy and psychotic JUST AS OFTEN AS THE UPPERCLASSMEN, IF NOT MORE. Neil spends the ENITRE FIRST BOOK wondering why the hell Andrew's own family treats him the way they do. I am so passionate about this because I am in fact an Andrew Minyard enthusiast(TM) but THAT IS WHY NEIL IS SO SPECIAL because for the first time EVER someone looks at Andrew and truly SEES HIM LIKE OH MY GOD ASKJFKASJFKDSF I apologize for my insanity but in all seriousness, Andreil is so special because Andrew hid behind his drugs, he hid behind indifference and the sociopathic persona that his peers gave him but Neil called bullshit and stuck around even when he pieced together who Andrew really was. all the while Andrew's own family looked at him like he as a monster. Neil knew there was more to him that who Andrew chose to let the Foxes see, he stood his ground and he asked and he fought for Andrew. he fought for the Foxes and that's why Neil is different. Because no one had ever truly fought for Andrew before. not even his own brother.
#hngggg I'm not okay#not even a little okay#I love you Andrew minyard#I want to like Aaron and Nicky and Kevin so much but they make it so hard#all for the game#aftg#neil josten#andrew minyard#andreil#the foxhole court#the raven king#the kings men#and obvi its more nuanced that this but I would have to write seven theses If not more on the twinyards to explain it all
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The thing abt john winchester is that he is too complex for the majority of the spn fandom and for a good portion of the writers on the show too.
Because at his core john is about love over everything else. When he looks up at his sons (yes, up, the fact that they’re both taller than him>>>>>), there is love seeping achingly from every single pore of his being even as he abuses them, as he destroys their souls beyond belief. He does it all entirely out of love. And he is so, so wrong for it. A part of him knows it. But he wants to keep dean alive, and he wants to keep Sam pure. And he loves them so much. And he damages them so horribly. John Winchester is the foundation upon which they are both built, they only become more of what he made them as the series goes on. Sam stops fighting it, Dean continues to mold into his image no matter how hard he tries to fight it.
Hell puts them both on steroids, but their individual trauma responses that influence this are the foundations that John built into them. No wonder azazel wanted sam to win so badly. John Winchester crafted his sons into alastair and Lucifer’s ideal victims, respectively, and dean was a better (worse) john than John ever was. John held out in hell. Dean acquiesced to his abuser despite all of his efforts to fight him, and he’s never been the same since.
Sam fought like hell, and he fought destiny, but at his core, he did what John always wanted him to by doing what dean wanted him to do, and then he stops fighting at all, loses the fire he showed john in adolescence that john immediately notices when he returns in s14.
And the sad thing is. They filled their roles so well that John is saddened by what they’ve become. He didn’t want dean to break. He didn’t want Sam to be dimmed. He’s sad to see what Sam is like in s14. In the process of recovering his wife, he ensured he would mold his sons into what he wanted them to be, and when he got what he wanted, he was devastated.
John Winchester is so driven by love and grief and he’s so filled to the brim with both that it’s painful to watch him on screen because he destroyed his family because of it. And he wanted this all along but he didn’t realize what he’d have to give up to get it.
#supernatural#john winchester#sam winchester#dean winchester#my meta#honestly the thing is#if john had survived past s2#I don’t think he would get the hate he receives today#bc the thing is. jdms portrayal is ridiculously complex and beautiful#that when the majority of people write him they lose all his nuance#the fact that John was gone more than he was there immensely damaged his rep in the eyes of the fandom#I think if John were alive for longer he would get similar treatment to dean#both narratively and fandom perception wise#he already does to some extent amongst some people#he’s an excellent complex character#but people can’t handle complex#that man is an abuser#that man also loves more deeply than anyone#you know who also fits those descriptors?#dean#and look how fandom views him
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you got it boss!
#wip#frenzy’s face here is my favourite in this comic I had to share#we’re at part six and no one’s gotten splattered in blood???#what am I doing???#tw blood#frenzy is the easiest for me to write and the most fun!#he and rumble have grown on me. so much#soundwave is actually the mst difficult to write#serious characters are just.#oh hey look at that emotional turmoil you’re having!! want to express that? WRONG! 10000000 LAYERS OF NUANCE#shooting myself into space
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andor has not one not two but THREE mean lesbians and that’s what makes it peak television
#also the incredible writing and complex characters and beautiful cinematography and nuanced exploration of its themes#but also the lesbians#andor#andor spoilers#vel sartha#cinta kaz#kleya marki
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cake night highlights
#akia art#our life#olba#baxter ward#olba mc#baxter fighting for his life (savage/ultimate/idk which is which)#replayed the game recently and had to draw cake night#it's one of my fav parts of step 4..for the return to form but also bc maggie considers the epilogue a protracted 1v1#and this confrontation Finally allowed a measure of even standing LMAO#if the text won't include those hyper-maggie-specific nuances that no one but me could write I'll Adapt Them Myself#but even i just want to go back to drawing cuddles now 🤣
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"This 'kid' I know"
The nod to Maya in AA4! It's! Pretty much the same in Japanese--but with a touch more nuance.
Apollo/Odoroki:
"Bideo disuku no keesu ga uzu takaku tsumiage rareteiru."
"Video disk cases are piled high."
(English Localization: "A swaying, spiraling stack of DVD cases.")
Apollo/Odoroki:
"「Oo Edo Senshi Tonosaman」 「Tonosaman・Hei!」"
"「Great Edo Warrior Tonosaman」 「Tonosaman・The Third!」"
(EL: ""The Steel Samurai", "The Nickel Samurai"…")
Apollo/Odoroki:
"「Koedo Kenshi Himesaman」 「Dendou Dendoushi Samansaman」"
"「Little Edo Swordsman Himesaman*」 「Electric Evangelist Samansaman」"
(EL: ""The Pink Princess", "The Zappy Samurai: Electric Bugaboo"…")
"Himesama" means princess, and adding an "n" makes it sound like a superhero. "Samansaman" does the same thing with "Sama," the most respectful title one can have. See my analysis for the Steel Samurai in Japanese for more on this.
Apollo/Odoroki:
"Kodomo muke no 《hiiroo mono》 de ume tsukusareteiru."
"It's nothing but 《hero stuff》 for children."
(EL: "They're all children's action hero shows…")
"Souiu no ga sukina ko ga ite ne. Dondon okutte kureru nda."
"There's this kid who likes this sort of thing. [She*] keeps sending these to me."
(EL: "This 'kid' I know keeps sending them to me.")
So, the word Phoenix uses to allude to Maya is "子", "Ko", and it has 11 definitions.
I'm not showing them all because they're not all relevant. But it's odd to call her a kid if she's 26 during the time this game takes place, right? Not in this case! "Ko" can mean different things in different contexts, and you can even see above that "Ko" can mean "young woman". It's not uncommon to hear adults addressed this way--as long as they are not older than the speaker, or a man of the same age if the speaker is a man as well. "Ko" also has the nuance of endearment. Endearment is why Phoenix addresses Maya with the "-chan" honorific, even when she's nearly thirty years old.
*And to address the asterisk, Japanese often omits subjects if it's clear from the context. With that quirk of the Japanese language, and the many meanings of "Ko", it helps Phoenix be vague about who he's talking about to Apollo.
Apollo/Odoroki:
"Heee‥‥. Shinrui no okosan desu ka?"
"Eeehh....? Are they the child of a relative?"
(EL: "Huh. Like a niece or nephew?")
"....Maa. Sonna youna mono ka na."
"....Well. I guess it's something like that."
(EL: "…Something like that.")
Apollo/Odoroki:
"Sugoi ryou desukedo‥‥ Kanemochi no ko nan desu ne."
"It's a huge amount... This kid must be rich."
(EL: "Quite the collection. This kid's parents must be really generous with their allowance.")
Apollo/Odoroki:
"(Naruhodou-san, kodomo ni sukareru you ni wa mienaikedo na)"
"(Naruhodou-san doesn't look like the type that children would like.)"
(EL: "(Funny, Mr. Wright doesn't seem the type that kids would like.)")
It's important to point out that Apollo uses the word, "子供", "Kodomo" here, which is the word that only means "child", so he's convinced that Phoenix is talking about a literal child.
Nope, it's our Best Gorl Maya.
#ace attorney#maya fey#phoenix wright#apollo justice#beanix#the line bugged me a lot so it was one of the first things I investigated when I started studying Japanese#I was almost wondering if it was worth talking about#but the nuances--as subtle as they are--are pretty interesting I think#and I was seriously running out of ideas lol#maya may#fixy writes#fixy's japanese analysis
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okay I'm curious, so no nuance, pick one.
reblog please I want to know what people think
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