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why are 80% of antis' arguments "proshippers also do this too" or "that doesnt happen!! [ABOUT A POST BASED OFF OF AN INTERACTION]" this particular post is especially weird bc of tiktok antis deliberately being ableist to people with objectums (as in people saying to "take their meds")

ugh fr though!!!!!!

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i keep forgetting anti-paras dont understand harm reduction.

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i can do whatever i want forever. die mad about it.

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

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hey what can i say: freedom of speech/expression matters a lot to me. i dont think we should be censoring fiction bc it makes u uncomfortable.

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

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i dont know why ppl have such loud opinions on stuff they dont understand. also i never said MAPs should be allowed to fuck kids? what are u on??

heres a good read for u!!

i bring a sort of "demonizing MAPs is not helpful for anyone" vibe that antishippers and proshippers dont rlly like

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its funny u say this bc its based on an interaction i had w an antishipper lol. i wish ppl didnt care so much abt others fictional tastes but ppl (including u!!) care too much abt that shit 🥀🥀

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

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bro doesnt know how to cultivate her online experience 🥀🥀

If I was president I would literally arrest pro shippers that shit is creepy af I don't even care

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horrible post op.

we are for freedom of expression in fiction (pro-fic) and for shipping whichever fictional characters u want (pro-ship). not every proshipper is into darker themes in media btw. we just believe someones taste in fiction doesnt reflect their moral values irl. we also think harassing ppl over their tastes in fiction is dumb as hell.

drawing porn that depicts a real identifiable minor does fall under CSEM and it obviously isnt something proshippers are ok w. there is a victim in that scenario. drawing porn of a fictional child is victimless as theres no real person being exploited. at that point u just need to learn to block and move on w ur life lol.

most if not all proshippers tag their art so ppl who dont want to see their shit dont have to. this is the internet. cultivating ur online experience is ur own responsibility. nobody is here to babysit anyone. and its not the fault of an artist who can differentiate fiction from reality if a kid who cant differentiate the two stumbles upon their work. nobody in these spaces advocates for real life abuse--and those who do get rightfully shit on for it and reported. there are abusers in every community unfortunately--even the antiship community is not free of predators. also theres nothing wrong to jorking it to lolis bro lol. masturbating to cartoons isnt evil.

if u did the LITTLEST amount of research ud know ur last point is absolute bullshit. u using the word "child porn" to refer to drawings of fictional characters show how uneducated u are.

do some research before spewing shit dawg lmao

the term proshipper is stupid as fuck you aren’t pro anything you’re fetishizing children, rape, and incest

“it’s not real it’s not affecting anyone” this doesn’t apply to people drawing naked little girls that they want to have sex with

“whys this wrong if gorey / horror movies and fictional portrayals of abuse aren’t” if you watch a horror movie and you want to start killing and torturing people over it you’re weird too, even if you’re not actually doing it. ‘proshippers’ don’t see loli and go Wow i feel really seen right now they see loli and they whip out their penis. ‘proshippers’ attract a bunch of pedophiles and curious traumatized children and that is obviously not a good pairing. ‘proshippers’ that put their disgusting art and writing online for little kids to see are grooming them into thinking things like that are okay because little kids online can’t really differentiate reality from fiction and thats who you’re targeting. horror movies don’t do that

‘it’s a trauma response’ that doesn’t make it okay. with a professional in a therapeutic setting and in moderation, yes, explore your own trauma and speak to a professional if you’re actively having thoughts like that, but there’s a clear difference between working it out in therapy and posting child porn online, that will literally just bring more horrible people into your life

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i bring a sort of "demonizing MAPs is not helpful for anyone" vibe that antishippers and proshippers dont rlly like

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i think im gonna have to start screenshotting antis posts so i can respond to them bc the most active antis already have me blocked. which is fine ofc the block button is there for a reason. but i struggle to understand the point of making an antiship blog to shit on and make claims abt proshippers if u arent open to debating. do antis just want an echo chamber to scream into???

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It's always funny to watch people who took upon themselves the role of the fandom moral police exaggerating their importance.

"We won't be friends if you ship [fictional ship]" Nobody asked for the honor.

"You can like [fictional character] if you acknowledge that what they did was wrong!" You are not in a position to hand out permissions and set conditions for liking things.

"It says a lot about you as a person if you support [fictional concept]" I'm sure I'll recover if a rando on the Internet thinks I'm a bad person.

Nobody asked for your sermons. Nobody owes you an apology for enjoying fictional concepts. Nobody is obligated to justify themselves to you. Nobody needs your absolution. Get over yourself.

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as a recovering radqueer the video on radqueers ppl in that community keep talking abt isnt even bad. they bring up many valid concerns when it comes to the safety of minors in their spaces!! even the radqueer interviewees are aware of how unsafe that community is!

u can argue that not every individual in the community is pro-abuse but when ur community tolerates ppl who are pro-contact for the big 3 paraphilias in the name of radical inclusivity it becomes hard to see the community in good faith.

ppl will become more accepting if the predator problem was addressed. it starts with not welcoming predators into ur community w open arms. and yes being pro-contact is inherently pro-abuse since chrono minors/animals/corpses cannot consent.

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are antis stupid on purpose guys are they trolling pls tell me theyre /j

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"shipping problematic stuff doesnt make u oppressed"

ok sweet!!! can yall stop trying to find every way u can to deplatform us now????? can we finally draw and write in peace without being called predators and without being threatened with doxxing for liking problematic ships???? will yall finally realize that art is for pleasure and it doesnt have to reflect our moral values at all times??????????

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this has to be the most brain dead post ive seen in a while holy fucking moly guys. "ai bros who steal from real artists to make their slop are bad but this one ass fanfiction site not advertising our political shit is worse!!!"... like do u hear urself...

i think u can advertise fundraisers and whatever the fuck somewhere else that isnt a nonprofit fanfiction site lolol.

also calling what u think to be csam (its not btw since its all just words on a screen and no real person is getting abused lol) "kiddie porn" is disrespectful to victims of real abuse and overall disgusting. plus liking dark fiction doesnt make someone a predator. jesus christ u ppl are gross what is wrong w yall

IT'S ONLY A ARCHIVE WHEN THEY WANNA DEFEND KIDDIE PORN!!

I usually hate ai and ai bros but I HATE AO3 MORE! I FUCKING HATE THE HYPOCRISY AMD AO3 SAYS THEY AREN'T A POLITICAL ARCHIVE WHEN IT COMES TO PALESTINE! BUT THE WHOLE THING ABOUT ARCHIVES IS THAT THEY ARE POLITICAL BECAUSE THEY ARE ANTI-CENSORSHIP!

AO3 IS SUPPOSEDLY SUPPOSED TO BE ANTI-CENSORSHIP AND ARCHIVE BUT THEY REMOVED POSTS ABOUT PALESTINE AND CALLING FOR AWARENESS ABOUT THE GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE!! THEY ARE HYPOCRITES!

AO3 IS MADE FOR PREDATORS BY PREDATORS!

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if ur community is built around telling ppl what they can and cannot draw or write abt u need to find a hobby!!

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maybe the single funniest twitter comment I've ever seen