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“Joe Goldberg seems so out of character this season” no y’all are just easily manipulated by charisma and a sad backstory which makes you overlook blatant misogyny and manipulation.

He’s always been this pathetic and weak. It’s just only now that the show runners put a little more emphasis on it because his mask is slipping. An inevitability, really, especially after everything he’s gotten away with.

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Just saw Babygirl and I’m going to need about 3 business days to recover from the whole ‘father figure’ scene

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Bronte is all of us. Let's be fucking real. She's literally THE chronically online girl with a difficult home life who uses the internet for escapism. Whether she was pretending to be someone else or if it was her projecting her inner vulnerabilities, it doesn't mean she is not representative of a large chunk of the online sphere. I agree with the sentiment that it should have been someone from the past to destroy Joe Goldberg but why is everyone scrutinizing this poor girl for no reason. She knew what he had been doing and couldn't help but fall for it. Isn't that our whole point of view as viewers? This mob of Joe defenders cannot separate Penn's attractiveness from a character. And I was a Beck hater but I think what made her so special was that she was literally just a girl. She had hopes, dreams and she was flawed but she was incandescent. I read somewhere that Love was Joe's equal and Kate was the opposite of what he had ever been. Marienne (imo) was what he thought he could be, a flawed altruistic and confident parent who strives to be better for their child. Bronte is a fangirl who's accepted his darkest parts (as opposed to Love, who challenges and brings that part out of him). Stop criticizing the dumbness, the validity, the beauty, the intelligence, and the survival instincts of these women because they are victims of a person and a society that we actually live in.

If you think about it, we are the most immersed in Joe's head from the first season to the second season's finale. After the glass shatters with Love, we see things a little more clearly throughout the third one cause we have Love. He loses the plot in Season 4 hence Rhys Montrose. And Season 5 he has officially lost control over what we see, hear and believe.

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This feral reaction from Joe Goldberg fan edit pages on Instagram is baffling to me. Their defense of Joe doesn't seem satirical and their hate for most of the female leads makes the social commentary of the show even more important.

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Medusa served so much cunt in older depictions with artists getting creative on her monstrosity yet ppl nowadays are so stuck up on depicting Medusa as a generic pretty snake lady that we are limiting ourselves from making unique and terrifying character designs.

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What does one do when they can feel their best friends start hating them? I guess one isolates so as to give said friends no reason to think about or be burdened with their existence.

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Maya Hart was not "Riley" when she liked Lucas just because she didn't rebel or wore the same clothes as Riley or got good grades. What kind of bullshit is that? And Riley is so insufferable to think that Maya has to be her old self to be her true self. Where did 'People change People' go? And okay maybe she lost a small part of herself after all but insisting that she needs to act out and do something bad to prove to everyone that she has gotten her original self back is not how things work. You don't just realise overnight that you've lost your sense of identity and go back to your middle school self because everyone(especially your best friend) thinks you're not playing the part you're meant to play. With all that she has gone through, Maya wants a life like Riley and she slowly makes the best of the influence of the Matthews' family. Imagine doing all that work and your best friend saying "Nah I liked you better when you were a mess because it fuels my goody-two-shoes complex". A part of being a teenager is trying to figure out who you are. It truly shatters your self image and it feels like you have to put yourself together again from scratch but it's so odd that Maya is the only person who gets that storyline at length. Other characters don't have nearly as much. Also Riley should not get all the credit for Maya's "good" side. It discredits the work she puts in for herself. That whole storyline is just a way to make the decision for Lucas easier. Everyone knows that. But to ruin a complex character like Maya to settle a love triangle IS NOT WORTH IT.

But many such cases...

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Riley Matthews needs to stfu in high school.

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I don't think I can fix her, but maybe if we fucked a few times it might help calm her down

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Genuinely curious about how people think that the character development for multiple characters was ruined in Agatha all along.

Can someone provide insight?

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Of course Gregor's family was unaffected by his death because of course they mourned him when he transformed. For them he was gone before he actually was, no matter what they tried to do or say. The worst part will always be that it wasn't surprising to us or even Gregor himself.

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Kiss of death kiss of death kiss of death kiss of death kiss of death kiss of death

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Agatha all along finale opinion:

I liked it. As someone who doesn't indulge in most of the series predictions, I think they handled it well. I understand the disappointment behind not getting enough Agathario but I think the time spent on Nicholas was more necessary. We've seen her grieve him and that has showcased her human side, the fact that she's not all evil. We had to hone in on her pain, her struggle, her connection to her son to fully understand her character.

Maybe we could have rounded off the Rio plot a little more but to me, it's like she sees that it caused Rio pain too but obviously nothing compares to what she had to go through. There isn't any space to empathize with anyone else when you lose your child. That's also what makes the push and pull between them continue; Agatha not being able to forgive Rio after all this time. There is no conversation to be had, they've probably had hundreds of broken conversations about this before. Rio as Death needs to fulfill her responsibility and with Agatha, it's been a long time coming.

There are facets of Agatha that cannot be explored beyond this show and they had to finish what they started by giving her complexities a tangible cause. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see Agathario but with all this context, it'll be easier to see their dynamic for what it is in future projects.

(P.S- The Billy tie in was great too imo because it was AGATHA ALL ALONG, she was the only one who knew, even though he made the road. She held all the cards. The driving force of the story is Agatha and she is in control without actually being in control.)

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my favorite thing about agatha all along is actually that in every episode, agatha is the pep talk giver. her pep talks have a 100% success rate and have saved their asses during every single trial. and she would hate this fact. she would try so hard to stop giving pep talks and then find herself at the closest high school spirit rally gearing them up to win the big game. anti hero is literal here she is ANTI hero. no more heroic antics she says while telling billy that he tried his best and a little murder never hurt anyone. okay queen i see your pom poms and whistle 💜

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no the POINT is NOT that rio was the first person to ever show agatha love blah blah soft girlfriends battling the trauma of abuse NO

the POINT is that THE PERSONIFICATION OF DEATH saw a human being so DEVOTED to the act of living that they COULD NOT comprehend dying and fell in LOVE with her and that HUMAN BEING saw this entity that NO ONE is meant to survive and and fell in LOVE with her

the POINT is that they EXIST in PERFECT tandem and in COMPLETE contradiction to each other. the POINT, the IRONY, is that they give each other exactly what they need, but must take from each other the only thing they want.

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but reducing Agatha Harkness to just being one half of a romantic ship is doing such a disservice to her character and the entire purpose of Agatha All Along.

This is Agatha Harkness we’re talking about. The witch killer… the succubus… apparently one of the survivors of The Titanic?? She’s so much more than just a ship.

Going even further… I’ve seen a lot of people complain about this so I want to clarify: Agatha All Along is not a lesbian show. It was never marketed as such. It’s a show about witches and is a love letter to the entire queer community.

This is a show about Agatha Harkness and all of her relationships, platonic and romantic. All of are equal importance and it would be poor storytelling to only focus on the romantic ship.

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Oof Agatha and Rio don't know what they're doing to my broken Killing Eve heart.