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Originally it was PB&J because people thought (rightfully) that Peter and Joaquín would get along really well (I agree, they're about the same age and, at least in the comics, have sassy quippy wit, enjoy themselves and enjoy being heroes, like to annoy other characters, and both battle with animal instincts/a feral side) and threw Bob in there too, but then someone randomly decided Johnny should be too

My guess is they wanted to complete a shipping thing, though from what I've seen most of them haven't read any comics or know what the SpideyTorch history and dynamic actually is, and only like Bobquin because it serves as a SamBucky-SebAnthony 2.0 with how Danny and Lewis are friends and their characters being protégé/teammate of Sam and Bucky respectively.

Peter's close friends with both Johnny (practically brothers, Peter is considered family to the F4 and he's Franklin's third uncle) in the comics, as well as Bob (Bob was a father figure/mentor to him and knew his secret identity), and Bob worked with Johnny a few times in the comics on different teams, so there's a lot of comic history between those three. I've seen a LOT of mcu fans not even aware of this, only that Peter and Johnny know each other, nothing about Bob which proves to me that this is more a ship thing than a "bringing comics to the mcu" thing (not a bad thing, just an observation.)

Joaquín only really connects to Peter in the comics through both of them being friends with Miles Morales. As far as I'm aware Joaquín doesn't know Bob or Johnny in the comics. He's not been around as long, but he's mostly known for being Sam's surrogate son and protégé (he was aged up a little for the mcu, he was originally only 16 when Sam met him), and being on the Champions. After Sam and Misty, he's actually closer with Riri than he is anyone else currently in the mcu line up.

Mostly it just exists because people enjoy exploring potential dynamics, this one reminds me a lot of 2012 era Avengers tower stuff which is cute. Personally, I think Peter, Riri, Kate and Joaquín make more sense especially in the mcu context and that would be a mash up of two comic book friendships into one group, but fandom does as fandom wants.

I am literally begging anyone and everyone, why does PB&JJ exist?

Like I understand half is because of Danny Ramirez and Lewis Pullman being best friends but Tom/Peter and Joseph/Johnny? My best assumption is that it’s because they’re similar characters (I’ve yet to watch Fantastic Four so GIVE ME A FEW DAYS). The silly characters Y’know. I’m not hating, I am just curious ALSO who created this quad?

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Oh you'll love my account then, I have more especially this specific one about how Peter having all this tech is a sign of grooming and isn't something he should be blamed for the way people always do.

Civil War AU where someone actually tells the 14 year old what's going on, like real details about the situation not just "them guys wrong, we right", and Peter defects like he does in the comics

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This isn’t like my normal brush rec posts but I wanted to get something out quickly bc there’s an excellent curly hair brush pack on the CSP asset store for free rn! The sale’s going until July 1!!

Some of the terminology used here is a bit iffy (but that could be google translate), but as A Black Person, I really like the effort put into these brushes to accurately get our hair texture down.

Link lol

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well that's a shame, she's racist as hell but I guess he's into that...?

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the way mcu Peter is the one existing in the least financially stable position out of the three we've had yet is the one who gets called middle class and an insult to Spider-Man's origins the most is baffling to me

yes, he's technologically more privileged than the other Peters having been given access to the suits and connections he has, but that isn't because he's wealthy or middle class, it's because of grooming. the tech he has is a by-product of child exploitation. and that then led him to being further exploited by others afterwards. hardly a fair trade off.

(And as for Midtown High, Peter's a scholarship student and an exemplary student at that, needing scholarships and grants is literally how Tony gets his literal and proverbial foot in the door with him.)

All three live action Peters have ties to some incredibly rich men, but one has a significant and important contextual difference I've seen ignored constantly:

Raimi's Peter and TASM Peter were both childhood friends with a boy their own age in authentically and organically formed relationships, formed before either Peter acquired their powers. Both Harrys were peers to the Peters, despite the wealth gap, and the Harrys don't make the Peters feel lesser for not having the same resources or living situation. It wasn't smooth sailing and there were issues that arose due to that gap, but at their core, the Peters and the Harrys were friends without ulterior motives. This is also the case with many other versions of Peter and Harry.

MCU Peter at 14 was specifically targeted and exploited by a 46-year-old man who'd been stalking him (justify it however you like, the fact Tony had been aware of Peter as Spider-Man and did digging to find out who he was and where he lived. He'd been watching Peter for up to six months... that's a form of stalking).

He had no prior relationship with Tony outside of childhood hero worship for Iron Man. Tony Stark is one of the most powerful men on Earth, financially, socially, academically and politically speaking, as well as militaristically as Iron Man, and Peter is a child who got powers six months ago wearing swimming goggles and a hooded sweater. Already, all of this creates several power dynamics that aren't to Peter's benefit.

Tony locks him in the room with him after entering his home under false pretenses and offers him gifts/bribes him after rifling through Peter's belongings mocking and making Peter feel small for what he did have. Tony had ulterior motives for seeking Peter out that, no matter how you spin it, are child exploitation. He turned Tony down, we never see Peter willingly agree, yet Tony didn't take no for an answer and used blackmail to get him to fight for him without telling Peter anything, particularly scary since he had Peter fighting against his own human rights as a genetically enhanced person. All he told Peter was that Steve had "gone crazy" for not wanting enhanced people to... say, have to wear 24/7 identification and monitoring trackers. Wild.

And despite admiring Tony who's given him all these things, he's frequently disobeying Tony. He and Tony have contradictory ethics. Their morals are at odds, they're constantly shown disagreeing on how to handle situations because Peter is far more like Steve Rogers than he has ever been like Tony (something we also see between how Peter handles Norman, under the control of another entity to kill May, and how Tony handled Bucky, also under the control of another entity to kill Maria.)

Peter might be into tech and a genius, but that's where his likeness to Tony ends. It's people like Happy around him who try to make him fit into the box of a Tony mini-me (ex. in FFH, we're shown Peter through Happy's grieving eyes as this, and then through the use of the music and the camera frame shifting solely to Peter, we see that it's a false legacy Happy's invented in his grief. Peter has a completely disinterested reaction to the music, even though he claims to "love" it and gets the artist wrong. This isn't a reach, it's symbolism, used to convey complex themes without having to spell it out.)

It can even be argued that Peter failed to clue into Quentin Beck because Beck treated him exactly the same way Tony did, which we're shown was on purpose once Beck drops the act and we learn he personally knew Tony and how he behaved. Peter has been constantly exploited, not just by Tony but also by "Fury"/Skrull Fury and SHIELD, since the age of 14. None of Peter's peers are in the superhero/spy world and he was never given the chance to properly talk to any of Earth's other heroes, just Tony, so he has no point of reference to know what is and isn't acceptable dealings in superheroism. Every single time he's been recruited, it's been with lies and manipulation. Victims of abuse, of any kind, are 4x more likely to go through it again as they go through life and that only goes up if they were under 16 at the time of first instance.

Anyway, I'm just really tired of seeing important context about MCU Peter ignored. No one seems to realise that they're not calling out proof that MCU Peter is lazy for using this advanced tech or living in a billionaire's back pocket, they're highlighting the symptoms and direct results of child exploitation.

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I love how the second and third gifs make it look like a dramatic telenovela or a reality show

The Old Guard 2 (2025)

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Andrew Garfield & Florence Pugh Argue Over The Internet's Biggest Debates | Agree To Disagree

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"they have never decided they need to take 'time off’ from one another" — Greg Rucka aka how Nicky knew 😭

THE OLD GUARD 2 (2025) |

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Spider-Man: No Way Home in a nut shell

a friend pointed out to me that the Green Goblin didn't even care to look at his og Peter when he stabbed him, he was locked in on mcu Peter from the first second he saw him and now I can't get this dumb meme out of my head

he saw the darkness in mcu Peter, the violence, the war and blood on his hands and the readiness to kill again, that serene anger and cruel streak that his Peter never had and ascended

the man was having a transcendental revelation looking at mcu Peter

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Danny Ramirez as Joaquin Torres CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD (2025), directed by Julius Onah

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this existed and SHIELD still left a seventeen year old war veteran and Avenger who helped save the universe, who they'd already worked with before who had his life fall apart because of a mission SHIELD had him on, and his aunt to live under threat for months receiving threats and attacks that reached the severity of having to hide in Happy's private home (which immediately backfired)

Peter Parker and May Parker, so many powerful people betrayed and failed you

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Bucky just wants his arm.

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Saying this right fucking now.

I don’t want to see ANY of you touching that fuckass new Harry Potter series.

That woman has set us back YEARS. YEARS. And whose money is she using to do it? People who continually support her and her sorry excuse for a book series.

If you simply must watch it? Pirate. It’s not hard.

Do not give her money. Do not give her a platform. Do not contribute. Please.

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Joaquín Torres and Peter Parker meeting up and getting high together. That's it. Just them eating brownies, laid out on bean bags and discussing the state of the SamBucky divorce like they're scholars studying literary classics.

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Need more people on the Parkorres agenda come onnn

Danny Ramirez has been here since 2021 bro has not stopped talking about a Joaquín-Peter team up in years

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everyone dresses the same in the MCU except for Matt who either dresses like my living grandfather or my other dead grandfather in hell