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morgana, thanks for listening to the fans and trying to give them what they want. i really appreciate that at least one person on the writing team seems to care about sapphics enough to take feedback on how to portray them and get more sapphic focus from the marketing team.

on a similar point, i want to state that martha x mayberry would still be a sapphic couple if both of them were bi, which to me would make more sense than mayberry suddenly being lesbian (unless there's some origin story for their relationship we're gonna get that makes me eat my words).

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"I wish Octavia was allowed to express her emotional pain without being called a villain or a spoiled brat or a naive kid that should know better by the fans. Octavia shouldn’t be expected to keep forgiving her father for every time he let’s her down. Just because he is “trying” it doesn’t make his actions less hurtfull to her. And she shouldn’t have to accept his affair partner with open arms, even if she eventually forgives her dad it doesn’t mean she is obligated to take part in his and Blitz picture perfect blended family. If she isn’t confortable accepting Blitz as a father figure, I will be annoyed if the show portrays it as expected of her."

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Portrait of the IMP gang that’s featured in Blitz’s office in episode II of season II. Had a lot of fun showing off each of their personalities and fitting them all into frame!  Poor Moxxie tho. <3

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twins!!✨🎪🎠

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thank you Canada 🇨🇦

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"As someone who was all for calling Helluva indie even with the outsourcing there is no way you can consider it indie now that Amazon is funding it. It's not even like Digital Circus on Netflix either, the episodes premiere on Prime a month before they do on Youtube from now on. So no this show does not count as indie anymore."

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vivziepop: ...

me: ...

vivziepop: listen-

me: of all the characters you could have admitted were inspired by you, of ALL the characters in your hellaverse. why valentino. why the character whose ONLY personality traits are "being dumb for funny" and "rapist"?

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They flung every single character into every single merch drop by this point that they're probably running out of ideas 😭 I guess this fits with the "holiday" of spring cleaning...

Wow spent so much time promoting a spring sale only to have most of the merch focus on episodes and events of season 1 and nothing from season 2 or around the Easter holiday. Feeling like a real cash grab for fans with pure nostalgia if you ask me.

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This just in, following the announcement that Helluva Boss is moving to Amazon Prime Kesha has stepped down from voicing Beelzebub :0 I wonder if this has something to do with Amazon being a huger corporation than Spindlehorse alone? No criticism here, just wanted to share this for the followers of mine that I know dislike Kesha's having been cast into the role. Good luck Rochelle!

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one of the small things i've always liked about blitzø is that we see him take accountability for his actions early on. in 'spring break' he didn't deny that he ditched verosika and maxxed her credit card, and he didn't deny anything she accused/called him out on in 'apology tour' either. i can't remember if there are other examples of him taking accountability but the only example i can think of when he denied accountability was when moxxie accused him of being a stalker in the pilot episode, and that was more of a comedic bit than blitzø genuinely thinking he was doing nothing wrong.

side note: after returning to this topic later, there are two more counts i can recall of blitzø not denying accountability, but ignoring it. he ignores accountability for being the one to seduce stolas in the first place, which started their whole arrangement. and i don't think at any point in the series it's come up how blitzø is a homewrecker. everyone makes a deal (whether big or small) about stolas cheating, but octavia is the only character who acknowledges blitzø as a homewrecker and it doesn't come up in any scenes outside of hers. despite recalling this, i'm still more privy to blitzø. in my opinion ignoring accountability isn't so bad if you own up to it once it's brought up. however, stolas has counta of both ignoring AND denying accountability.

a big part of why i'll never fully like stolas (or at least the stolas we currently have) is because up until 'mastermind' he didn't take accountability for any of the wrong things he did wrong (and also he didn't even really take accountability for his collective wrongdoings in 'mastermind' all he owned up to was willingly lending blitzø the grimmoire, but the circumstance raises the question 'does he actually see why that was wrong of him to do?')

with stolas it's always "i've tried" or "i'm not this person you think i am" but no significant efforts on his behalf to back it up, meanwhile with blitzø it's "yeah, i did that. maybe regretfully so, but i did do that".

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So Apparently, Vortex has a band which i'm guessing was the one playing during the f u Blitzo party in Apology Tour which begs to question why they didn't show up at Bee's party and be the core friend group Loona hangs out with alongside Tex. Like we never actually meet his friends that called him by his nickname outside of possibly members of Verosika's crew and you'd think they would be the first people he would introduce Loona to as a way to become more social. Heck maybe even join the band itself being their lead singer having her finding a new interest in music. All this potential to develop of your main leads and it's thrown away.

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I don't know if I exactly agree about the overall take that IMP never feels like a family (because my perception of family is a little complex and having said that, they really fall between 'close coworkers' and 'friends of circumstance') ((by which i mean had these characters not met the way they did and ended up so close-knit because of their job and blitzø's initial lack of boundaries, i can't imagine they would be very good friends at all)) but I do agree that a lot of the bonding we get between them are rushed and don't have much weight that we get to see within a reasonable timeframe if at all.

The issue boils down to Vivienne's biggest flaw as a writer... having necessary developmental information confirmed/shown exclusively offscreen, and leaving certain things up to interpretation or implicit when they really should be bigger plot points.

It's why I get so frustrated when people defend Stella, because all the information they pull to defend her? 100% implicit. And that's not to say that the assumptions don't make sense or that people are dumb for thinking deeper about her experiences, it's that you shouldn't have to think so hard about her experiences. The show should have already delved into more about Stella's personality and experiences by this point but instead we only know that she is Stolas' abusive wife who is quick-tempered and power hungry and is the dumb hater to Andrealphus' smart hater. All the details about Stella's anger over the cheating and the fact that she was forced to marry/proceate with Stolas in the first place? Completely from the minds of the fans. And that's with so many other relationships/characters in the show as well.

So many personal development scenes are rushed / brushed off to be relevant later, that it often feels like Vivienne hates giving her characters feelings for more than the sake of cultivating drama. It feels like she expects the viewers to do all the work to figure out the deeper aspects of her character's personalities and inner motivations, instead of doing the bare minimum as a producer/writer and diving into the character's experiences herself (in a timely manner might I add, which means it's not okay that any depth we get into Stella's character is coming two whole seasons after she was introduced and made a recurring, important character).

"IMP never feels like a family. They always get these big, dramatic and emotional moments but we never really get to see them actually bond and grow as a family, they’re just suddenly nice to each other when the plot demands it. Loona’s last appearance was her physically abusing her father and then all of a sudden she’s lovingly kissing him and taking care of him. Blitzo and Millie’s relationship is incredibly unearned and I’m shocked by the way that both fans and critics think it’s acceptable for two characters who never had an episode together in 4 years are now calling each other best friends."

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actually WATCHED the announcement video in its entirety (i was at work earlier and skimmed) and...

• it clicked that the animation/art style for helluva boss will drastically change, just like hazbin hotel did in preparation for it's move... which may mean new outfits for the main characters 👀 or not. i just. really want them to have different clothes, and stolas + fizzarolli have different outfits now sooo... 👀

• why was moxxie replaced with a plushie in the announcement video but vassago got shoved in 😅 so random... i'm thinking too deep but could that mean millie keeps the baby, moxxie becomes a stay-at-home dad and vassago becomes a more relevant character in upcoming seasons?

• i still have animosity towards the thought of a hazbin/helluva crossover, mainly because of the current state of both shows in terms of writing/pacing. i think one REALLY important crossover would be great but knowing how obsessed vivienne is with pushing merch, we'll probably be getting crossovers that are very casual and frequent and present a lot of marketable opportunities rather than any crossovers that will significantly impact/contribute to either series.

• amazon's budget means vivienne is definitely going to be cramming more into the episodes/seasons to stretch the money they're giving her... unless i'm misunderstanding how signing on with amazon works.

• i strongly dislike how from this point on i'll basically have to watch the rest of the series in amazon (assuming i ever get around to watching helluva boss again, i spent 4 months watching american dad just because i didn't want to sit through the episodes) because i hate streaming on a-prime and like the announcement said, helluva boss won't be uploaded on youtube until the full remainder is out on amazon. i suppose there's always pirating but it's such a hassle to watch a show i truly enjoy on those sites, let alone one that i'll have to frequently pause/skip.

so helluva boss is coming to prime video... but is still gonna be on youtube... i have Negative Thoughts about this but i'm just gonna shut tf up because it opens the door for a hazbin hotel/helluva boss crossover, as stated... buuut now i'm scared because i feel like any and all crossovers are just going to be pandering and/or fuck up the in-universe lore even more. crossing my fingers for the crossovers to just generally be non-canon or incredibly subtle (like the one that occured in the pilot episode).

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so helluva boss is coming to prime video... but is still gonna be on youtube... i have Negative Thoughts about this but i'm just gonna shut tf up because it opens the door for a hazbin hotel/helluva boss crossover, as stated... buuut now i'm scared because i feel like any and all crossovers are just going to be pandering and/or fuck up the in-universe lore even more. crossing my fingers for the crossovers to just generally be non-canon or incredibly subtle (like the one that occured in the pilot episode).

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everyone on the critical side of the fanbase complains about this but while working it dawned on me that one thing that would make helluva boss so much better is replacing all the seven deadly sins + stolas with lesser royals and just straying away from Historical Hell Lore. because that way vivienne/we could really explore/theorize more aspects of these characters without the looming thought of "wait, this doesn't line up with the lore this character is based on".

basically, enjoying the 7DS/Stolas for what they are and what vivienne is writing them as is kind of hard when you remember that they're drastically innacurate depictions of the demons they're inspired by... makes you wonder why vivienne didn't just lean into the more fantastical aspects of her hellaverse instead of having these random sprinkles of Historical Lore, or why she didn't at least really lean into that and make the 7DS/Stolas more interesting than "hey look. gluttony is a party girl who likes sweets. and lust owns a sex lounge/nightclub. and greed is big and greedy.".

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"A lot of the rules Viv makes for Hell are just limiting, confusing, contradictory or nonfactors for the stories she tries to tell. Specially when it comes to Sinners as a concept. Especially when the solutions are so simple and RIGHT THERE. ALL Sinners HAVE to be in Pride for no reason when there are apparently 9 circles, but 7 Deadly Sins(?). I.M.P. never has to deal with exterminations and only deals with Sinners as clients despite HAVING to be in Pride and sharing Hazbin's world as per "Da Rulez." The simple solution Viv ignored is to just not have Sinners limited to Pride and Lucifer. It doesn't change ANYTHING to let them be in any circle to indulge their vices, and actually helps put Hell in danger by making the Exterminations a more widespread problem. Heck, It could have also been a good thematic reason why Lucifer is a recluse; enough people actively choosing not to live in Pride hurts his ego so bad he decides to give up on them and hide away."

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because someone was in my dms for nearly an hour this morning talking my ear off about how stella isn't a rapist, casual reminder that i did say that point was debatable. and left unsaid, but still applicable, is "whether you think she is or isn't depends entirely on your meaning of that word and interpretation of her character". the bottom line is that stella is not developed enough to properly argue if she is or isn't, and i stand firm on my belief that just because you're in a forced relationship doesn't mean you can't be a rapist within it. thank you for coming to my ted talk 😍