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going back through my ao3 history is a wild trip like wtf was I going through in 2013

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BBC's tiktok, of all places.

"I've just been told that I looked good playing football by Jermaine Jenas"

-Phil "babygirl" Dunster, back on his bullshit

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Jamie Tartt Accent Analysis

Um so yeah, after an anon ask to @withbadhair talking about how Phil is posh and Jamie is Manc, I relistened to Phil Dunster's episode on No Such Thing As A Fish again today and got sucked back into how much I love thinking about the intricacies of regional accents and how much I love thinking about Phil's accent work and how it is great!

So here you go -

A Yorkshire Lass' with an obsession with regional UK accents' take on Jamie Tartt's accent

Phil's Intentions with the accent

Phil has said that it was really his choice what sort of Manchester accent they went for (as Jamie wasn't written specifically to be Mancunian) but he was aiming for New Moston sort of area which is north eastern Manchester suburb (see yellow highlighted area on the image)

But he started by mimicking his agent who is apparently sassy and from Manchester but then listened to people like Aitch (who is from Moston which is probably where the idea for Jamie being from Moston/New Moston came from), Marcus Rashford (who is from Wythenshawe which is south Manchester out of the Outer Ring Road), Jesse Lingard (who is from Warrington which is a town between Manchester and Liverpool to the west) the Gallaghers (who are from Burnage which is south eastern - near Highfield Country Park on the map) which was more season 1 Jamie.

It was mentioned that Aitch was a bit inspiration with the attitude and the sort of swagger as well as the accent itself.

Features of a Mancunian Accent (some things to listen out for)

Research says that the Manchester accent can be characterised by a few distinct features:

The LettER vowel: if there is an ER at the end of a word it is pronounced more like UH. So for example "letter" becomes "let-uh"

The HappY vowel: what Jamie is known for. If there is a Y at the end of a word it is pronounced more like EH. For example "poopy" being "poopeh" or "city" being "cit-eh

H-dropping: this is typically northern but prevalent in Manchester. It is not pronouncing the H at the start of a word so instead of saying "head" pronouncing it "ed".

T-glotallisation: if there is a T in the middle of a word it is sort of dragged over. Like in "better" it can be "beh-uh".

-NG: typically if a word ends in -NG you do not say the G. For example "waiting" is "waitin"

All of these features are more easily noticed in words where more than one of them happens like "happy" becomes "appeh" with both H-dropping and the Y at the end

Analysis of Jamie Tartt's accent from a professional (not me)

Manchester Met have done a study of the different dialects within Greater Manchester and have split it into four categories. Lancashire, Mancs, Wigan, Posh. If Phil was aiming for Moston that would be more Manc but some Lancashire.

Dr Rob Drummond who was the lead on this research was sent clips of Jamie Tartt and managed to locate very precisely to just north of central Manchester in the Smedley sort of area which is the blue area on the map. If you compare that with Phil's aim of the red area ... that's damn impressive

So if you are looking for areas of Manchester to set your fics around or ways to make your dialogue feel more Tartt. Then we are looking for the Mancs accent and living somewhere in just north/north west of central Manchester based on his accent.

So yeah thanks for reading my thesis. I was going to go into words and sayings here too but it's after midnight and I have been talking to myself for the last hour just repeating the same words in Queens English, Leeds, and Manc 😂

Disclaimer - this is more based on S3 Jamie as S1 Jamie had a lot more subdued characteristics as Phil was finding his feet with the accent.

Side Plug as I have preordered it - Dr Rob Drummond's book called You're All Talk is coming out soon and it is all about this stuff and also social perceptions of linguistic diversity (which as someone who's accent massively chances based on the situation I am in I am super interested in)

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PHIL DUNSTER Game4Ukraine

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I love it, and also hate it, but also at least I'm in good company, also oh god I see that gif every damn day and it takes me out every time

I can't believe Ted Lasso is the reason I'm gonna start writing fics again, I perish of boredom the minute there's football on tv and yet I am doing research to write about these goddamn football himbos

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I can't believe Ted Lasso is the reason I'm gonna start writing fics again, I perish of boredom the minute there's football on tv and yet I am doing research to write about these goddamn football himbos

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Also from Moe's instagram, it's the gift that keeps on giving

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From Moe's instagram, it's blurry but also one of my favourite clips

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Phil Dunster at Game4Ukraine (x)

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silly boys <3

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PHIL DUNSTER Game 4 Ukraine match at Stamford Bridge on August 05, 2023 in London, England.

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toheeb & phil at game4ukraine 🇺🇦

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toheeb & phil at game4ukraine 🇺🇦

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Yyyyyuuuuummmmmiiiii's Instagram story, zoomed in slightly

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This is sooo Jamie

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Phil Dunster warms up during the Game 4 Ukraine match at Stamford Bridge on August 05, 2023 in London, England

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Phil Dunster warms up during the Game 4 Ukraine match at Stamford Bridge on August 05, 2023 in London, England