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[links to a 'now what' red rights 101 resource article. This one is updated for post FTL and has things like calling your government about best practices in transition, contributing to transition efforts, for countries doing integration activism for laws and policies protecting ex reds,

donations to transitioned reds, donations to red history museums, other preservation efforts, and memorial projects, red businesses that can be patroned, a link to a different article about talking to relatives and friends and responding to casual bigotry, etc.

Also links to forums etc that are good for new people.]

You're not the first to go through this, and this is a happier time to do it than most have been.

Feel free to also message me if you think that might be useful.

okay so… reds might maybe probably be people

and that means… a lot of things

a lot of bad things 

a lot of bad things I don’t really want to think about but I probably should and I should probably do something too but I don’t know what and

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You have two countries, right? Does that mean you'll get to throw double the successful red transition parties? :D (How's it going so far, by the way?)

In a manner of speaking, yes.

The parties are rather far from my main concern, but yes, I very much hope everything can go as well as it can, thank you.

My country of residence did cleaning a little time back (the blues involved seem to currency feel very proud of themselves, lack of connection between the current situation and their decisions at the time notwithstanding). My father’s country is among the numbers now suddenly making plans to. 

We might soon be traveling over, actually - there’s pretty close diplomatic ties, and they don’t want to take all the time my country of residence did to set everything up, and are considering hosting some temporary experienced transition workers to supplement their own recruiting.

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Amentans have found habitable planets. At 4:19 this morning, the first exploration mission returned to our world with news of five confirmed Amentan habitable biospheres, and an expectation of more to come. Amentan feet have walked upon extrasolar planets; Amentan breath has mixed with their air. It was the fulfillment of a dream Amentans have shared since we first looked to the stars. When asked to comment, explorer Thesha Pepalma said, “Our children, our children’s children: none of them will ever suffer empty springs again. The planets we have found… [click here to read the full article]

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Did you think you were going to live to see the day that every red on Amenta became clean?

Well, when I started out, so to speak, cleaning didn’t exist, so certainly that’s not something I was thinking of.

Afterwards - I try not to make predictions about the future like that. I was afraid and sometimes I hoped, and I wanted to do what I could. 

‘Live to see’ wasn’t particularly a factor on my mind. I have quite a few years left, and I didn’t particularly expect whatever outcome would happen to take that long. It was considerably more about what I would be seeing while I was living. 

But no I certainly never expected specifically this, and had much less reason to hope for something as desired.

(I would like to add here - it is not every red. And the number can still depend on work we do. Anitam has given its condition on massacres, but as we would all know from the existence of the justice system a strong deterrent is not a guarantee, and it’s additionally not clear where they might draw the line and what ‘accidents’ might be tolerated. 

And even in the best scenario, cleaning remains a medical procedure which not everyone survives (and which some know they cannot survive). This is a number that, as in is generally the case in medical procedures, can to some amount be affected by procedures and supplies and the like. 

Clean caste members in countries planning transition should continue to petition their governments to do this right, so that number can be as small as is in any way possible. 

And we should not forget that it still will not be everyone, and that this is a wrong being done people. (Which in no way means that what can happen cannot or should not be celebrated. But it remains the case.))

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I’m seeing people saying “of course potential aliens would have the same feelings about pollution as us they’re not evil.”

Hello, hyposensitives exist.

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The thoughts you're having now? "This can't be right, hundreds of years' worth of received wisdom can't be that wrong, it would be so horrible if it were true, someone would have noticed"? That right there is a big part of why it seems like no one has noticed. Others have noticed, but they thought all of those things, and convinced themselves to ignore the evidence in front of them.

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i know we’re all excited about planets and that’s great but please please make responsible decisions when celebrating!! the number of drug overdoses spiked after the announcement and we’re honestly kind of short-staffed. use drugs in safe amounts only! you can’t go to space if you’re dead!

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Had to search somewhat far back for this, but. Felt appropriate.

Orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and grey, 

All work as one to visit stars someday!

Yellow, purple, grey, green, orange, and blue,

If you all do your part then you can visit too!

source: [1], [2], [3], [4]

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(to diplomatic theory blogger) if aliens understand cleanliness they'll understand that pollution is horrible and living pollution doubly horrible and stopping it by any means necessary is the right thing to do. if aliens don't understand cleanliness, we wouldn't be able to live peacefully with them anyway. do you want your children to live in fear of unclean aliens?

Do you need the ‘cleaned reds are clean’ Simple Citrus article? Pollution is horrible, so we get rid of it, by cleaning. If aliens don’t care about cleanliness, then yes, there’s no real hope of peace. But it is very likely that aliens who care about cleanliness won’t have the same exact theological consensus as us, and it is important that we be able to come to that diplomatic table with the understanding that we approach these things with theology and science and cleaning, and not mass murder. Some chances of war are out our hands, but this one is in our hands, and I commend Anitam for their foresight and priorities.

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Everyone complaining about ‘but reds!!’ should take a few seconds to think about diplomatic theory.

Given that we’re going to space, it is likely enough we’re going to meet aliens. I presume everyone can agree that we would all prefer this was a peaceful meeting that left everyone feeling like we can come to a further peaceful agreement. We already have enough working against us - space is big, but ultimately we’re all after the same space, and as history testifies that gets very bloody very fast even when everyone involved is the same species and knows each other.

If we come to the aliens with a record of ‘we let people commit and get away with mass murder’ this does not do good things for our chances. Think about it - if you were meeting a new person and trying to make a deal with them, would you feel good about it if you learned that they’d recently murdered one of their tenants and suffered no consequences for it?

And sure you can say ‘but reds!’ - but whatever your theological opinions, the aliens won’t be living in our history. Reds look like other Amentans, talk like other Amentans, can pass for other Amentans on the internet, have been having their radio signals end up in space with everyone’s, have been present and a rather vital part of Amentan civilization for centuries. We don’t know enough about what the aliens are like. What if they had a pollution disaster they had to clean up from? Probably their pollution standards are different from ours. 'They’ll go right ahead and slaughter us all, as long as they can tell themselves we were polluted first’ is not a trust- or peace-inspiring thought!

And while I feel for the people of Oyand and Orvara and so on, 'well these people did commit mass murder and don’t think they did anything wrong, but it’s in the past now!’ is also not a trust-inspiring position!

'We do not commit mass murder, period, and anyone who committed mass murder has been sanctioned and not permitted to be present’ is the position that can inspire trust. It’s the position we need to be able to go in with.

Whatever your opinion of cleaning, it is a small price to pay for a greater chance of peace in the universe.

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Afen Kisantami is not the only genius born into the wrong caste. He’s just the one who managed to get around all the artificial obstacles we put in his way.

How many more Afens are there out there, undiscovered because we never gave them the chance? How many have there been, throughout history, who died without ever reaching their true potential? How much sooner could we have had this, if we had let people do what they’re good at?

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How do you feel about citizens of your country not being able to go to space because your government messed up red transition? Honestly I think I'd have a hard time supporting a policy if it did that to me, but I kind of see the point of it so I dunno

The incentive is, I assume, meant to ensure that tragedies like in Oyand and Rivik do not happen again. This is a good thing.

Once every country has transitioned, and there is no chance for such atrocities, Anitam might release the information to us. Or someone else might. Or we might get taken over by some country that has that information. I’m sure the citizens of Oyand will have a place in the stars at some point. When that is, I don’t know, but we will. And waiting to get there will save lives.

I suppose it is unfair that people who had nothing to do with transition will face consequences for things they did not do, but it is more unfair for people to be slaughtered because they were born in the wrong caste.

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How can you be better than someone else at morality, that makes no sense.

“Better at morality” is shorter than “has a more accurate understanding of what is right and wrong and is better at following through on that understanding”

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How dare you suggest that the genius of our age is a shitting trashlover!!!

The genius of our age spent time as an umbrella green. The genius of our age’s new revolutionary technology is going to make sure that as Amenta ventures into space we spread the radical values of Not Murdering An Entire Group Of People Just Because We Feel Like It. The genius of our age is better than you at morality.

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Afen Kisantami has given us ~space~!!!

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[imperialtrellis doesn’t reblog this post because she thinks it’s not her place, but she is super anxious]

I think we have six days to prepare for the biggest splurge in history.

Either we’re going to have something to celebrate or we’re really, really going to need it.