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i've read several papers recently that try to translate the potential meanings of odysseus' name (Man-of-Pain, Trouble, Hateman, Anger-Bringer, Suffering) but the one that still haunts me is Mr. Hater
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Sing O' muse, of the rage of Achilles or smth
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made a video essay about epic for one of my classes, and I thought I'd share this really funny screenshot from it
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wyfilwma (original meme under the cut)

#this was funnier in my head#also sorry my art is so anime#but i tried </3#epic the musical#odysseus#penelope#odypen#odysseus x penelope#would you fall in love with me again#epic the ithaca saga
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Post-wisdom saga Athena’s reaction to a sudden hug would be to remove her armor to not hurt Ody- change my mind
#oh this is so gorgeous op omg#love ur designs sm and the textures are exquisite#and she absolutely would#ichbw athena u will always be famous#epic the musical#athena#epic odysseus#wisdom saga#epic fanart#epic athena
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i would like to proudly say that i caught this before jay mentioned it in his recent video
so can we talk abt how in wyfilwma
1. when penelope asks ody for her "favor" it first plays the danger motif
2. it then plays odysseus' motif (it plays again once she says "only my husband knew that")
(both on viola) bc to odysseus all he heard was "..DIVORCE????" but no. she was outsmarting him. the same way he has done the entire show. no one has been able to outwit him except her. so it plays his motif but on her instrument. fking married people im sick
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so can we talk abt how in wyfilwma
1. when penelope asks ody for her "favor" it first plays the danger motif
2. it then plays odysseus' motif (it plays again once she says "only my husband knew that")
(both on viola) bc to odysseus all he heard was "..DIVORCE????" but no. she was outsmarting him. the same way he has done the entire show. no one has been able to outwit him except her. so it plays his motif but on her instrument. fking married people im sick
#the fact that theyre both some of the smartest/most cunning ppl ever is one of the things most emphasized abt their rs#besides being horrendously down bad for e.o ofc#epic musical#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#would you fall in love with me again#epic penelope#epic odysseus#odypen#odysseus x penelope
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love how ody asks "would you fall in love with me again", and penelope answers with "i WILL fall in love with you over and over again" — its not "i WOULD", its "i WILL". its not hypothetical to her, its literally her stating that she WILL always fall for him again no matter how hes changed and it fucks me up
#i fking love married ppl#epic musical#epic the ithaca saga#odysseus x penelope#odypen#epic penelope#epic odysseus#would you fall in love with me again
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when you realize the song is called "the challenge" bc not only is it about penelope's challenge for the suitors, but it also describes penelopes hardships and how hard shes been fighting to keep the kingdom running and the suitors at bay while waiting for odysseus to come home
#epic the musical#odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#maybe im overthinking this#idgaf anymore man#i love penelope so much#epic penelope#the challenge#jorge rivera herrans
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my favorite part of the ithaca saga is how appalled and horrified that penelope asked ody to move their bed. "how could you say this...." BRO IS MORTIFIED THAT HES FINALLY MADE IT BACK TO PENELOPE AND SHES SAID STHN LIKE THAT ITS ACTUALLY KIND OF FUNNY 😭😭😭
#this is a joke obv#but i did find it so funny that he sounded so horrified ngl HAHAH#my actual fave part is the second chorus of the song. w how emotional he is augh#epic the musical#odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#jorge rivera herrans#would you fall in love with me again
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jay has been so quiet recently.. like compared to the other sagas, he'd usually be posting sneak peaks or marketing stuff or lil things to look forward to but thats been almost nonexistant - even vengeance had hermes and jay silliness??? i am so worried but also so excited bc im sure that their plans are SO big
#LIIIKE WE DONT EVEN HAVE LIVESTREAM TIME YET? WHAT IS GOING ON#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#jorge rivera herrans
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twenty years across the sea
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Athena has had one (1) relationship with a woman
#PALLAS AND ATHENA MY BELOVEDSSSS AAGHDHDJ#athena is so loser i love her#pallas and athena#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical cutsong#epic athena#epic odysseus#epic young odysseus#epic penelope#pallas
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Is it considered plagiarism if you're copying your own comic?
╮ (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) ╭
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All of them lived happily ever after and nothing bad ever happened, trust me 🥹
Follow up: The wedding
#SO CUTE#Ithaca royal family u are always precious to me#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#epic odysseus#odysseus#eurylochus#epic eurylochus#eurymene#ctimene#epic penelope#penelope#odypen
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hera’s son
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not sorry for loving you is a song i love soso much not only bc its so gorgeous, but i think the emotions behind it are very raw and u can tell. jay said he wrote it when he was at a very low point in his life and i think it shows
as much as i disagree very much w calypso's actions, i still think shes so interesting as a character (specifically in epic, but in the odyssey wow she is very much a rapist) - i think jay did a rlly great job at showing that her way for acting like that definitely has a reason (albeit not an excuse), and that her emotions are very Real
yes she spouts out a lot of "if's" instead of outright apologizing for her actions, but at her core she is a goddess who does not exactly understand the power dynamic between her and a mortal (since shes always been alone) and simply wants to find love and happiness with someone that finally came within her grasp
was she justified? no. but can you see the pain and longing behind it? yes. not everyone is all bad and all good, everyone is nuanced – calypso is a great character even if her actions were very very icky.
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#not sorry for loving you#calypso#i love songs about longing ok#also id like to point out epic leaves it very vague whether she also rapes him in there but alas we will never know#nonetheless not good of her to keep him there obviously
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