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Tearing my skin off

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i think btvs misplaced robin wood and didn`t really know what to do with him because he should`ve appeared a couple of seasons earlier. his and spike`s arc worked great and i love that both of them faced each other and found their closure, but in terms of buffy he falls kinda flat. and maybe not everything should revolve around buffy, but if the writers so wanted to give her a normal boyfriend, who in the end turned out to work in her world anyway, then i think they could`ve perfectly implemented robin for this since he and buffy have a good chemistry, or any other demon hunter if they liked (i think robin would`ve worked out great but i just like him in general). i would`ve prefered to see her with a demon hunter for a season and a half then with that insecure military guy.

the show teased us so much with demon hunters that it could make you think that they would`ve been an important part at some point, but they just gave us some scraps and moved on. i don`t know, maybe they are more developed in ats and comics (haven`t touched them both), but i would`ve liked to see more of them in the main series. i still don`t understand why they exist if we have slayers? can anybody become a demon hunter or they have to have something unique about them? how do you become a demon hunter? where do they get all the information about demons, do they have their own version of watchers? are demon hunters all men? it would`ve been great if the main show told us about it all. cause all i got is that they are all regular strong which is basically a normal human but undercover, which again brings me back to a demon hunter being a good boyfriend for buffy at some point. the one who gets her world and wouldn`t see her as another sentient being, who would know about the slayer and wouldn`t make up some idealised version of buffy and then get sad when she doesn`t match it, who wouldn`t get insecure because she is stronger than him, who wouldn`t try to change her and shame her for who she is.

and robin wood would`ve been great at all of this. he is a good guy, the writers wouldn`t even have to sweat this hard to try and make the audience see the vision and believe it. or he and buffy could have had just that light flirting that they had and a really good frienship, cause other than faith and spike he is the other one who would be able to understand buffy and her sphere. his character needed more time to be a more well-rounded one, cause his story is really inetersting and compelling and we could`ve had all that tension with spike and them coming around it and maybe forming some deep connection - we still could`ve had it all but it would`ve been much more seasoned and complex and more dividing for buffy herself. instead (to me) he feels more like a character, who was needed for spike and his healing journey, which is not bad at all - it was important for both of them, he just does not seem to be that greatly ingrained into foundation of theshow.

all in all, robin wood is such a missed opportunity in the show when he should`ve gotten much more than they gave him.

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Thoughts on Leverage OT3 and Canon

I think that if some of the things that the OT3 said to each other were said by a man and a woman in a TV show, the audience would clearly read it as romantic. Like if a hetero ship said:

“For better or worse, we change together,” from the Rundown Job {for better, for worse, in sickness and in health…}

and “til my dying day” from the Long Goodbye Job {to death do us part},

and (you never really need anything.) “Yeah, I did [soft, loving look], but thanks to you I don’t have to search anymore,” from the Long Goodbye Job

and Hardison’s “for tonight, [name] has perfect pitch. You ever wonder how Britney Spears sounds so good on her tracks? Well, this is it, except mine's is in real time, Baby.” From the Studio Job,

and Parker’s [I’ll] “be here for you forever and we’ll always be together” from the Harry Wilson Job,

and Hardison’s “I’m here if you need me. Anytime,” from the Fractured Job

and the Hurricane Job with Parker and Eliot’s “I can’t do this without you.” “Well, that’s never gonna happen, [name].” “The arm around me was a nice touch,”

and “I’m making a four-course meal for them” from the Date Night Job

and “maybe I don’t like watching someone I care about take punches meant for me. You know, maybe I don’t wanna do a job that involves me watching you get hurt all the time.” From the Weekend in Paris Job

and “I mean, I’m in a great relationship, but would I even be in it if it were up to those swiping machines?” “We are in trouble.” “Nah, I mean, [me and you]? That’s fine. That’s working.”

If all those things had been said between one male and one female character, I feel like the audience would pretty clearly read it as romantic. I mean, my mom insists that Joan Watson and Sherlock Holmes got together romantically at the end of Elementary because of the hug and the line, “I’m staying. Of course I’m staying,” even though it did not read it that way to me. General audiences will read a lot of things as confirming a m/f couple because they see that kind of story so often that it’s what they expect.

Now granted, TV shows do like their slow burns because it provides tension without having to create problems in an established relationship, so fans of straight ships often do have a long wait for canonization. However, people didn’t question whether Josh and Donna from The West Wing or Tony and Ziva from NCIS were romantically interested in each other. It was clearly canon that they had those type of feelings or that type of interest for each other, there were just other things getting in the way of them actually starting to date. If a hetero ship said all those quotes listed above to each other, their romantic interest would absolutely be read as canon by the audience, even if they had not yet been shown on a date or kissing in the show. But because this is between 3 people, the OT3 is a somewhat niche ship in the general audience of Leverage outside of tumblr and AO3.

Like many of us here, I also felt let down when the Maria plotline happened in season 1 of L:R, especially after John Roger’s tweet that they’d canonized the OT3 after the Long Goodbye Job and his tweet that “your OT3 is safe” about the reboot. He specifically called it the OT3 in both cases, which pretty clearly refers to polyamory. If he meant that the characters that make up the OT3 (Hardison, Parker, and Eliot) are safe as in alive and healthy, then he should have said that. If he meant their friendship was safe, then he should have said that. If he meant they are in an open relationship or that Eliot is in a queer  emotional relationship with the other two but is not romantically and/or se✖ually involved with them, that should have been made clearer in the show. Instead, by the end of season 1, we got Eliot looking for fulfillment in life by trying to find a girlfriend to settle down with, and Parker qualifying her statement that they'd be together forever with “I know it's not the same [as a romantic relationship].”

Parker and Hardison’s romance is clearly stated and shown in the series (as it should be because they are awesome <3), but Eliot is not included in this unambiguously romantic relationship. While I am loving the partnership between the 3 of them and all of the OT3 nods so far in the 3rd season, I am also a little frustrated that they are just nods.

The burden of proof for a queer and/or poly ship is higher than a m/f pair. There is enough canon evidence to make a compelling argument that Eliot is the life partner of Hardison and Parker. However, the burden of proof for this type of relationship is higher because it is not what audiences are trained to expect. I adore the 3 of them together, and whether the series would show them all kissing or give us open, explicit discussion of their relationship as something like a queer-platonic partnership (probably not using that term, but that kind of relationship), I would love it either way. As it is now though, we get hints and nods that make OT3 shippers freak out, but that can be easily overlooked by general audiences as just good friends. If they are meant to be read as just really good friends, I wish John Rogers would not have used the term OT3, the definition of which includes the word “polyamory.” If they are meant to be polyamorous, I wish the show would make it unambiguous that’s what is going on, meeting that higher burden of proof for queer relationships.

On the other hand, I don’t want to complain about queer-baiting, because I feel like it’s not allowed to confirm your main characters are in a polyamorous relationship in a procedural like this that doesn’t center relationship drama. That seems like it’s just not possible yet. They are allowed to have a canon lesbian main character now- unlike in the original series- but I feel like maybe polyamory is still not an option. So the only other option than what the writers are currently doing is to totally disavow the OT3, which I obviously don’t want to happen. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong by the end of L:R season 3. I would absolutely love that to happen (dear God, please make that happen). But I’m not holding my breath.

I do still really appreciate John Rogers for the way he runs the show (both in the original and for season 3 of L:R) and for openly acknowledging and even supporting polyamorous ships, which is rare to find. I am aware that they fought for more queer representation in the original series but were only allowed that one cop lady from the Experiment Job in a single episode. Maybe this is the most they can get away with now, or maybe they are choosing to walk the line between hinting for the shippers while maintaining plausible deniability for everyone else. An intentional position of strategic ambiguity.

My point is that even if you don't account for the OT3 tweets, the canon status of the relationship between Hardison, Eliot, and Parker is complicated. It has enough textual evidence that if it were about a m/f pairing, then at minimum their interest/intent would be considered obviously canon. However, it does not meet the higher burden of proof that general audiences need in order to clearly realize when a queer relationship is happening. So it's left in this limbo between fully canon supported and totally unnoticed.

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I DID IT

We all know the meme

Well, I went digging further and found the backstory.

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It all starts in highschool (or early college)

(for time sake we’ll call blue shirt, girl 1 and the other girl, girl 2.)

Girl one begins to grow feelings for girl two.

She get jealous of the man and decides to become best friends with girl 2

soon girl two grows feeling for girl one

Soon, the time of the meme takes place

She finds out that he cheated on her by finding messages on his phone

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men love to make fun of women for overreacting in emergencies when they are, in fact, massively under-reacting

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a tshirt that says here against my will

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I took my little brother (autistic, mostly non verbal) out and he was using his voice keyboard to tell me something, and this little boy (maybe 4 or 5?) heard him and asked me "Is he a robot??" I tried to explain to him that no, he isn't a robot, he just communicates differently, but my darling brother was in the background max volume "I am robot I am robot I am robot I am robot"

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a detailed list of things i hate

hot weather

high temperatures

heat

warmer than average conditions

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a good sailor will always return to the sea

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do you ever just … picture a whole scene, a whole fanfiction in your head, you know how to place every single word of the english dictionary that you need (or your language dictionary), you know how to structure your sentences, you know just what your characters are going to say to each other and then… and then you just open microsoft word.

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I think parents should teach their toddlers the phrase “my will has been thwarted” for when they’re feeling frustrated by not getting what they want. I don’t think this would reduce the incidence of temper tantrums, but I do think it would make them more entertaining.

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Adolf von Becker (1831 - 1909) - The Cat on the Pillow. Oil on canvas.

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@importantanimalmemes

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i was looking up synonyms for tired and seeing these two next to each other gave me whiplash

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you ever been milked big time?

I was the only almond at Silk for 5 years

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Im gonna be so real can yall actually talk about ways we can support trans women in the UK instead of giving all the attention to fucking JKR. I already know that Harry Poter sucks, I wanna know how to actually HELP people. Something something you have to love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor

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A WALTZ ALONG A RAZOR'S EDGE