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also try and help them with the boring paperwork stuff, especially if the disability lowers their energy output. Those things can be exhausting. And just talk to them, take them outside if posible. It can be so easy to get isolated as a disabled person. Give them community support, they might survive because of it.

I haven’t seen this one yet so

Disabled friends and tumblrites all: do your best to stay alive. The fight will be very hard for some of us, if certain plans go into action and our cost of living goes up while benefits go down, but we have to try.

We’ll crawl up the Capitol steps again if we have to. But we have to stay alive to make it there.

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This is why I fallowed women's football even after I stopped playing. I love women so much aaaahhhhh

feel like the lesbians that arent on football (soccer) twitter need to know that the england womens captain has bagged miss usa

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a feel like the new generation of fanfic readers NEED to understand that clicking on a fic (interaction) does nothing. ao3 has no algorithm. your private discord discussions of fic do not reach the authors. if you do not actively engage with writers they will stop posting. this isn’t social media this is community.

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my partner said something that kinda rocked my world

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No but like I need this to be a soft launch, I would love to watch a show like this about actual working class people. I would be so refreshing, I already liked that they seemed to show some actual skin (like they showed skin texture and stuff). I would give them my money to have this be a real show. I'm so proud of Yin and War and what they've done with YWPB.

Also I found it on their own youtube channel (YWPB house) it doesn't have any subs jet, but with my rudimentary Thai I could understand it just fine :D

Did YinWar just shoot a whole series trailer... to promote a concert... AGAIN?!

Why get our hopes up my dudes?! Haven't we suffered enough from that botched Jack and Joker Special Episode?

Y'all I was SO HYPED because the trailer is top tier. Though stories about princes, superstars, company presidents, 100-year old mansion-dwelling vampires, and ultra-rich racecar drivers are captivating on their own as they are so removed from our own realities, there's something so timelessly BEAUTIFUL about seeing working class individuals... people like you and me... falling in love in between the mundanity of day-to-day living. That's why working class stories are considered prestige works in Hollywood and Kdrama-- deeply respected art forms aimed at capturing the complexity (and difficulty) of the human experience. Aside from biopics and depictions of cruelty in the entertainment industry, which are a favorite among critics, working-class themes garner awards and are usually considered masterpieces long after they've aired.

I was so excited to see Yinwar ONCE AGAIN capture the difficulty of living, and falling in love, in a country so embattled by bad politics and widespread poverty. Jack and Joker was imperfect in many ways, but it remains a beautiful ode to humans trying to break free from the cycle of crime and destitution, and that's what set it apart from other BLs.

I hope and pray that this is YinWar once again testing the waters for a new series concept, and they will (SOON) shoot this in full length. If the concert is their way of raising money for the series, then I would GLADLY spend just to help out.

I'm still in awe at the fact that Yin and War decided to branch out of the conglomerates and create their own prod house at their own expense, just so they can have the freedom to shoot projects they genuinely find interesting. Many said this move would kill their careers, but because they're so passionate about it, it actually works.

And it's so adorable that they're doing this TOGETHER. They're achieving dreams and doing the impossible as a TEAM. We can speculate all we want about their couple status etc. etc. In the grand scheme of their careers, it doesn't matter. What matters is they're providing content that's worth our time and patronage. SHOOT this YinWar. We will gladly watch.

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I believe I've had this discussion before....might've been Friday 😅.

For the record, while I appreciate Kim's efforts to appease the mother-in-law, I'm siding with Mon.

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for sale: ace enbi womb, never used

I can't believe it's 2025 and we still don't have a way for me to give my empty uterus to a trans woman who wants to carry a child

For Sale: Ace Womb, Never Used

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Actually every character ever is aromantic and/or asexual. Every single one of them.

Married? Platonic and/or tax benefits. Fucking? Friends with benefits.

Aros can still date and aces can still have sex, right? Great! Every allo character is now ace and/or aro! I am going to be so fucking annoying with this.

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Editing this because they were literally abducted in international waters and either deported or they face Israeli courts. What the Fuck is happening

greta thunberg, liam cunningham, rima hassan, and everyone else on that ship, thank you, and i hope you succeed. i really hope you succeed. you know what you are risking, and i wish for you to come back safely, having done what you set out to do.

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I've always been verry cautious about what I post online, I was always overthinking my comments. And while I must say that that is not a bad thing at all. I recently started actively commenting on ao3 works that I liked without thinking to much. BEST. DECISION. EVER. I now have multiple works gifted to me and I'm constantly smiling at my phone because I'm chatting with authors about the media we both like. So shoot your favorite author a comment, it is fun for everyone involved <3

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I was not active in bl spaces when this was going on. I had heard that something had happened between them, but I never actually tried to figure it out. This sounds so petty by the companies. Like the issue literally is: my boy is less popular than yours and then crying about it. Seriously are you guys twelve?!??!

Even now that I am 3 years deep into this, I still avoid the shipping at all cost. I feel like the fanwars and these types of dramas with the companies involved really suck the fun out of the queer media I enjoy so much. The comment that Perth made seriously broke my heart: "I had to do what I'm told and say what they wanted me to say at all times. I felt like a dance monkey."

What's happening with SmartBoom btw?? I really liked their show, they're really good actors and they have pretty good chemistry imo. I would be sad if we missed out on more good shows with good acting because of company drama.

Hot take (from a media nerd): How companies manipulate BL shipping behavior, or how ZaintSee became The Messiest Branded Couple in Asian Queer Media

Gosh, remember when Saint and Zee were a thing? 😅

If you don't (or do), then dude do I have a tale for you.

First, a few disclaimers:

This post wasn't made to generate any hate for Saint, Zee, or their new branded partners. I'm a big fan of them both, and in fact, I'm trying to do the opposite-- I want to absolve them of the hate caused by their companies' efforts to pit them against each other. Their case is unique because it really does seem like they had no intention of destroying the genuine friendship they built over the course of filming, unlike other ships whose struggles were more between the actors than their brands. Look at Saint and Zee here on a night out with Win Metawin in March 2025:

This doesn't look like two people who are actively trying to bring each other down. But because Mandee and Idol Factory have been on each other's throats since 2020 (let's mix GMMTV in there for extra credit), ZaintSee is the unfortunate winner of the messiest BL ship title.

So let's begin.

Branded shipping is a sticky affair. And this is not unique to the BL industry. In Asian media, creating loveteams (branded pairs) for heterosexual couples is a surefire way to get a solid fanbase, and generate sales. Money for productions, money for tickets, money for merch-- all of these come from consumers who patronize the product. In the eyes of the media conglomerates, this is a symbiotic relationship: they give the fans what they want, and fans pay for that privilege. Everyone is entertained, everyone is taken care of. Easy.

This is not the case for the actors themselves however, who ARE the product in this scenario. Sure, they're paid big money for the trouble, but in each work comes the strings of following the fans' and the companies' whims. Quoting Thai-Aussie actor Perth Nakhun's thoughts on the matter during a YT live: "I had to do what I'm told and say what they wanted me to say at all times. I felt like a dance monkey."

Dance monkeys are cheap, plastic windup toys in Asia, usually in the shape of a monkey holding drums or maracas, which moves once its owner activates a mechanism. Without the mechanism (and without the attention of its owner), the monkey lays dead.

But there is one aspect of branded pair culture that is unique to BL and nowhere else. Here, companies actually control the "narrative" of their ship--how they met, how they interact, how they present themselves to the public. And yes, even how they fight. This in turn, shapes shipping culture.

In Western Music, Hollywood, Bollywood, and even in K-Media, FANS dictate the success of an actor (and this is why cancel culture is such a big deal). Even if a Hollywood conglomerate tries its best to push for the success of an actor through visibility and brand deals, if fans see no value in said talent, then the actor falls flat. But if a talent is BELOVED, no company narrative (or any narrative for that matter) can break fans' support of their artist. Look at convicted criminals like Chris Brown, Danny Trejo or Robert Downey Jr., or the accused talents in the Burning Sun Scandal in Korea. Sure, their popularity takes a hit, but their loyal fans never seem to go away. They, as a product, still sell no matter what.

But in Asian BL, no matter how popular the product may be, once the conglomerates decide to freeze you out of their circle, then it seems fans can do nothing about that. They'd have to start from scratch, or leave the industry entirely.

BL actors who've acknowledged this phenomenon and have spoken out about it: Perth Nakhun, Lay Talay, and half of the original cast of My Engineer, Fluke Natouch (UWMA), Toptap Jirakit (2gether), Mek Jirakit (Star and Sky, My Stand-In), Ohm Pawat (Bad Buddy. Kidnap)

I have not included actors who admitted to/ were proven guilty of a crime and left the industry because of it.

Branded pairs run through the same fate. Never believe the press releases where actors claim that the ship's dissolution is an amicable "choice": these ships die an unnatural death either because companies are making way for new pairs, they're pushing the actor for a more solo direction, or they're asking actors to do something so out-of-pocket that the actors themselves cannot stomach it. Companies control the narrative.

Let's use ZaintSee as an example. From the get-go, Domundi was controlling their origin story.

Domundi TV is a talent agency founded by manager-turned-producer-and-director Aoftion Kittipat. It started out as a company that primarily hires models for advertisements and short-form acting projects, before Aoftion realized how much money can be generated from these hunky male models interacting with their fangirls. In the tradition of the YT algorithm of the early 2010s, DomundiTV started out as a prank channel (with some TRULY childish and sexually criminal pranks that would bite them in the ass years down the line), then a vlog channel, before Aoftion looked out into the horizon (the comments) and saw that the fangirls were starting to ship their talents... WITH each other.

This was around the time Joss Wayar jumped ship to GMMTV, and I never in a million years would have predicted that he would do BL willingly, because speculations rose that he left because he was being shipped with his friend, Zee Pruk. Aoftion then allegedly saw Love By Chance and Tharntype, had a discussion with BL writer-turned-producer Mame Orawan, and realized that he too could make money off of BL. So he set his eyes on the one person that started all this hype: Zee.

Zee, allegedly, was Saint Suppapong's biggest fanboy

According to Zee himself, a few years back, when Domundi was doing small time modeling gigs for a Thai channel, they ran into Kissboys TH, Saint's former idol group. He said Saint caught his eye because of how handsome he looked, and how accommodating he was to the cast and crew. Zee asked for a photo, they took one, and it allegedly became Zee's phone wallpaper for a while. Saint, for his part, claims he doesn't remember Zee or that interaction at all, and that his first memory of Zee was when Domundi TV asked him to audition for Why R U?.

Aoftion and the other Domundi members claim that Zee wasn't just a fanboy tho. In interviews, they said that Zee was absolutely ENAMORED with Saint. He allegedly had a crush the minute Saint talked to him at that Kissboys promotion, and he's been crushing ever since.

Aoftion said that when he opened the idea of shooting BLs with Zee and asked him who he could partner with, Zee immediately asked for Saint. DMD members Park and Poppy revealed during cast interviews that Zee would often attend Saint's solo fanmeets and mall shows, and had Saint's songs saved in his playlists. To be fair to this narrative, fans documented this phenomenon, too. Zee was photographed attending Love By Chance fanmeets in 2018, and Saint's solo fanmeets in 2019.

When they started filming, he would still attend Saint's solo activities, allegedly without Saint knowing until after the event. Here he is next to Saint's mom, circa 2019:

And in a now-deleted vlog posted by DMD where Zee and Saint toured Zee's house prior to the airing of Why R U?, Zee's mom recognized Saint as "the beautiful boy from your poster", verifying that yes, Zee had merch of Saint in his bedroom. Here's the only snippet I could find of that moment now:

And as you can tell, this whole origin story of a fanboy who got lucky was ALL OVER THAI MEDIA

In fact, it was the biggest selling-point of Why R U?. It also helped dispel the bad press surrounding Saint, whose WRU press tour coincided with that of Love By Chance Season 2: A Chance to Love. The first season of that show had Saint as the lead, but removed his character completely by the second season, as Studio WabiSabi producers claimed Saint turned the role down. Saint then clarified in interviews that he was never invited back at all, and how thankful he was that Zee requested him for Why R U?. Point for Domundi, Zero for WabiSabi.

As we know now, the pandemic brought about the first renaissance of Thai BL. As fans consumed more of this media, and since there were very few BLs airing at the time, its stars became bonafide superstars. Domundi made sure Zee and Saint would stand out from their competition.

Domundi introduced the first concept of "versatile" BL pairs: hence the ship spelling ZaintSee, and their fandom name Cactuzs.

No top or bottom discourse here. Combining the letters showed that both partners were at equal footing-- in bed, in their roles, in their interactions. This was also intentional on the part of their managements, to ensure that none in the pair get preferential fan treatment (some fans prefer the masculinity of the tops, or the femininity of the bottoms. In this equation, there's nothing to discern them).

And this novelty actually worked. ZaintSee got featured in the biggest brand deals:

They were even featured on Woody's show, a bigtime talkshow in Thailand:

But Domundi noticed a worrying trend. It seemed Saint was getting MORE ATTENTION than their talent, Zee.

This was around the time Saint was invited as a replacement host for Tpop Stage Show, a very popular music program in Thailand, less than a year after Why R U?'s official press run ended. Domundi took this opportunity as a threat and immediately went into the offensive: in a worrying interview on WRU Director P'Cheewin's channel (that I can only find snippets of now on X since Cheewin also deleted it, dear God), Aoftion admitted that he thinks Saint's management is intentionally leaving Zee out of projects despite their commitment to a two-year branded pair deal.

This was NEWS to BL fans, who weren't aware that branded pairs also enter into ship and fanservice contracts BEYOND their series run.

Saint's manager Chen had to do a press release admitting to the contract's existence, and denying that Saint or their management ever broke that agreement. Saint had to apologize for whatever discomfort they may have caused the fans and Domundi.

But Domundi was on a warpath already.

They refused to pay Saint his royalties for Why R U? (a fact Saint himself alluded to in interviews), rebranded to Mandee Works and DELETED the show on their YT page, stopped production of the boxsets, delayed merch deliveries, terminated couple activities with brands, and BLAMED SAINT for all of it.

Saint has always been a media darling, because he's been in the industry far longer than Zee (or even Domundi) has. He knows that talking to reporters and engaging with fans is the best way to boost his popularity, but that doesn't mean Saint has had the proper media training to actually do it. Because the BL industry, and Saint himself, was so young at the time, there were certain things that Saint really should've just kept out of the public.

By the end of 2020-early 2021, Zee was allegedly instructed by Domundi to stop engaging with Saint beyond their remaining brand projects. This means Zee also had to stop replying to Saint's messages. Saint unfortunately revealed this during one of his solo appearances, when a fan asked him where Zee was and Saint asked the fan (jokingly) to tell Zee to reply to him. He apologized for this (hence the interview and transcript in the tweet above, but again Domundi took this opportunity to further alienate Saint and RAN with it.

Aoftion went on a press conference to claim that Saint has been disparaging Zee all along in his interviews, with stories of Zee never paying attention to the show or its adjacent projects, always sleeping on set and never being on time (stories that were shared jokingly by ALL cast and crew as a way to prove that they had fun on set and were genuinely close), and now claiming that Zee doesn't reply to him when he in fact, does. Zee went on to clarify that he and Saint only talk in a professional capacity, and in truth, were not that close.

Which, YIKES. What were these texts and inside jokes then? Also scripted?

But I do not blame Zee. At the end of the day, actors are employees of their company, just like the average salaryman. You do what the company tells you to do.

The thing is, ZaintSee had a LARGE fandom

A large and organized fandom even, which successfully trended projects and ran merch drops, meetups and donation drives. During the pandemic, the Cactuzs fandom was able to conduct a semi-regular donation campaign for victims of the virus and other natural calamities in Saint and Zee's name. They opened ZaintSee themed cafès and secured merch deals for their ship. They even successfully pressured Tom Isara and Saint's management to include Zee in the MV for Why R U's Is This Love (where Zee just stood there and looked pretty 😅):

The fandom was very well-organized, but when the NARRATIVE of in-fighting between the production companies surfaced, the once-strong group really couldn't do anything in the face of it. To be fair, Saint's management, also ran their own smear campaign against Domundi:

You'd think fans this many would be able to come together to sustain a ship with the loveliest origin story, genuine chemistry, and a friendship they've built for over a year, but sadly they couldn't.

Because in the end, COMPANIES dictate shipping behavior. They asked the fans to choose a side, and so the fans did.

The irony isn't lost on me that Zee's current brand partner Nunew could pass off as Saint's younger brother.

They don't look the same of course, but the similarities are present. It doesn't help that Aoftion followed the same origin story in reverse for ZeeNunew-- that Nunew was a fan of Zee and that Nunew allegedly auditioned for Mandee with the hopes of acting with Zee.

This is the primary reason why, though I do respect the fact that both Zee and Nunew have repeatedly confirmed that they ARE actually dating, there's the smallest voice in my head pinging alarm bells and saying that they ran the same narrative with Saint and Zee:

Though please understand ZeeNunew fans that though I am a skeptic at heart, I am quite straightforward in my stance here. If they say they're dating, then they are until proven otherwise.

All this to say, that though we fans would like to believe that we have power over these companies and ships, and that we can demand for their longevity, in the end, they're the ones who lord over the content we actually consume.

But there is one power we currently hold, that they cannot take away from us: PATRONAGE.

We cannot dictate their actions and motives, but we CAN control the content we actually consume. If we refuse to swallow garbage, then they'll be forced to give us something better.

In the case of Saint and Zee, if fans REFUSED to believe that Saint and Zee were out here trying to destroy each other's careers, if we had just refused to accept the narrative and supported them equally, whether in music or in their shows, they might've been able to collaborate again.

If we reject the narrative that branded pairs should stay together 24/7, and produce content related to their pair only, then maybe we could've saved ships like OhmNanon and BrightWin.

If we didn't patronize excessive fanservice and engage in the overspeculation of BL pairs, we could've seen a third series for MaxTul and MewGulf.

If Chinese censorship didn't--- um, you know what, that's a can of worms I don't ever want to touch 😅 But I think you get the picture.

Let me close this off by saying that I worry for the New Gen pairs

This blog post was actually inspired by the ZeeNunew fans beefing with SmartBoom fans on X. The bitchfight is reminding me of the many, many fanwars that erupted when BrightWin fans directly clashed with ZaintSee. Look at where we all are now, eh? All sunken in the Pacific ocean, while Zee, Saint and Win all have dinner at a resto in Bangkok. Wonderful for them, actually. I'm so happy Zee and Saint's friendship was able to withstand all that crap.

In other news, SmartBoom is ~worryingly~ following the same trajectory as ZaintSee now that I think about it. I sincerely hope they go the UpPoom route rather than the ZaintSee one, otherwise the cautionary lessons of their debut show are lost on the industry and its fans.

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Australia’s version of the onion has just character assassinated all you gays

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genuinely love posts like this!!!!!

I've learned a lot from this since I'm not a film nerd at all, but it is so much fun to learn. I love this show, it's so interesting and different. I also read the Johnny one, also really interesting. Especially when it comes to sham emotions (a new concept for me). I absolutely HATE Johnny tho, he's such a rat. No wait I take that back rats to cute to be compared to Johnny.

anyways I love these types of more analytical posts

Film fact (from a media nerd):

The breathing technique used by Akin to help Jin cry in Ep. 1 of Top Form is a real-life acting method. It's formally known as the Outside-In/ ALBA Method.

It's a branch of method acting where the actors initially perform the body's actions to certain emotions in order to trigger said emotion. To illustrate: if an actor wants to cry, they must trigger the body's distress functions through movement. They take quick, panicky breaths to mimic a body in distress, which then increases their heart rate. This then triggers the body's natural reaction to calm the heart: deep slow breaths, then-- crying (crying forces the lungs to take in more air, and the high oxygen intake helps the heart re-establish rhythm. It's all very nerdy and scientific but it works 😅)

(Notice how at the start of the teaching at the bridge scene, Akin visibly shortens his breaths and widens his eyes while looking at Jin. He then gradually slows down his breathing, then touches Jin's chest to physically order the other to follow his movements, which Jin does).

It's actually harder to do than the common Inside-Out Method, which requires actors to tap into the emotion of the character first before expressing the action (e.g. crying would require you to think lonely thoughts, or place yourself in the shoes of your character in order to push the tears needed for the scene). Newbies are recommended to do the Inside-Out Method first because they don't have the experience to be instinctual with their body's reactions (the Alba Method requires that you MEMORIZE what a body does when feeling certain emotions. Senior actors, borne from years of doing complex scenes, have these actions mastered). Once a new actor gains enough experience, they'll be able to switch to the Outside-In/Alba (and get to do all sorts of roles).

But the Inside-Out is not reserved for newbies. Some prolific actors stay within the Inside-Out Method because that's what works for them. Regardless, both the Outside-In/Alba and Inside-Out are branches of Method Acting-- a very difficult (and controversial) technique which requires actors to physically and/or emotionally embody their character in its extremes in order to make their performance believable. Some method actors are stellar, some lackluster. There are about a dozen other acting techniques aside from Method Acting that actors can choose from.

Famous Hollywood Inside-Out Method Actors (based on interviews): Heath Ledger, Al Pacino, Natalie Portman

Famous Hollywood Alba Method actors (based on interviews): Benedict Cumberbatch, Joaquin Phoenix, Adrien Brody

In Thailand:

Famous BL actors who practice the Inside- Out Method (based on how they describe their performance in interviews):

Zee Pruk

Off Jumpol and Gun Atthaphan

And based on current interviews, our very own beloved Boom Raweewit is an Inside-Out actor. He studied the source materials, discussed the character with cast and crew, and even wrote the character's motivations for each scene to help fully immerse in the role. See the Black Honey Cut interview for reference.

Next, famous BL actors who practice the Alba Method (based on how they describe their performance in interviews):

Fluke Natouch

Ohm Pawat and Nanon Korapat

(I used this gif to make us all cry)

And based on current interviews, our resident heartthrob Smart Chisanupong describes his technique as Alba-adjacent. He describes his portrayal of Jin based on action-reaction: what body movements would show anger, happiness, or arousal to the audience, and what actions would trigger the same reactions from his acting partner. See the Black Honey Cut interview for reference.

Adversely, famous BL actors who REJECT Method Acting based on their interviews (and do Presentational Acting instead, where they completely separate the character from themselves and their real-life personas)

Khaotung Thanawat

Up Poompat and Poom Phuripan

Bonus (although I know this is quite long already):

The Alba Method may be indirectly responsible for causing Jin's infatuation with Akin 😅

The Alba method is NOTORIOUS for triggering "sham love" reactions from its practitioners and fans. Sham love in media refers to two things: 1) the audience believes that actors may have fallen in love for real because their actions come off as very natural onscreen, or 2) the actors THEMSELVES think they've fallen in love with their costars because their body's reactions mimic that of attraction or arousal.

Our brains, though infinitely complex, may sometimes be quite foolish. Our body's actions help our brain logically conclude what's occurring around it, so it in turn can order the body to react and fix any issues.

In Jin's case, an elevated heartbeat, dilated pupils, and a skin-on-skin contact-- these are all bodily reactions to arousal. Crying, funnily enough, is also a bodily reaction to arousal. 😅 Sexual activity increases the heartbeat, and the body's reaction to calming our heart is to increase oxygen intake and release accumulated body heat-- all achieved through crying. It doesn't help that Jin instantly found Akin captivating when they first met.

So in teaching Jin the Alba Method, Akin may have inadvertently triggered Jin's arousal 😅

(I was going to analyse Akin's swordfight with Johnny and how that triggered Johnny's attraction for Akin, but it awakened my anger for Johnny even more, so, never mind).

Edit: I made the Johnny retrospective. Click here if you're interested.

This is so long but thank you for coming to my Ted Talk 😅🤣 I'm a Broadcast Media grad and I do some work behind the scenes, so I found it fascinating how the show expertly inserted this method for a touch of realism. And now you also know why I love Top Form so much 😅 Stay kooky folks!

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like damn this is wayyyy to real

A man in a wheelchair rolls into a liberal bar. He starts to order a drink, but another customer grabs the handles of his wheelchair, turns him around, and gives him a hard push in the other direction to get him out of the way and order a drink themselves.

The man in the wheelchair turns around and yells “Hey, what’s wrong with you?! Are you crazy?!”

The man in the wheelchair is asked to leave. Ableism isn’t tolerated here.