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Sorry for the lack of updates (again)!

Drace is on hiatus and I've been a little busy, I'll try to start posting answer tomorrow. Drace left some answers to questions asking for her input before leaving~.

~Mod Lag

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Terrible news everyone! We have discovered only text submissions work properly.

We will be closing any other kind of submission from here on, use the 'Add Image via URL' feature if you want to show us a picture, this will soon apply to Drace's main blog too.

~Mod Lag

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I just realized where the second years g7 incarnates/prefects are connected emotionally, they are not connected thematically. However, the third years prefects/g7 incarnates are connected through the theme of sleep.

Malleus is based on Maleficent, so naturally he has sleep/dream theme. One of the promotional image is him coming out from a coffin even.

Similarly, Vil who is based on Beautiful Queen also have sleep theme, he flat out says "sleep eternally" in his overblot boss battle.

Now, getting into Idia and Leona.

Sleep is tied strongly with death, that in greek myth , sleep and death and twins. The previousl mentioned eternal sleep is often used for euphemism for death.

And for Leona, he also have skull motif because, ya know that scene with Scar, he sort of have skull motif too, and skull is tied with death, death is close to sleep, and Leona also a lazy ass that love to sleep so...

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Diasomnia really sound so ethereal with Latin, like sure, it can mean "through dream", as well "day dream" then you realize it an be translated as simply nap.

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i need this analysis to point out because man . it keeps happening.

Two sides are both wrong is a recurring theme in the game .

In first chapter, Ace certainly is wrong to steal the cake and crosses the rule, but Riddle is also the wrong for being too strict.

In third chapter, certainly Azul is wrong for scamming the students, but the students who makes contract with him is also wrong for cutting corners and being dumb to not the read the contract's terms and condition or overestimate themselves that they will not get red marks and will not be victim of the slavery, something jack points out.

In fourth chapter,Floyd points out that as much Jamil is in the wrong for venting to Kalim who didn't have any real saying in the matter (of assigning Jamil to his role), Kalim is also in the wrong for taking things for granted and be unaware of Jamil's feeling.

In chapter 5, while Epel is wrong for being sexist, Vil is als wrog for being too strict like Riddle and deliberately ignores the idea of human limit exists.

stop pointing fingers, this isn't about who is victim and who is culprit, both sides are wrong as much they have their own point, leave it at that and think how to fix the situation,simplifying the situation about who is victim and who is culprit isnt helping in the long run.

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Pointing this out because wow I forgot this big aspect of Malleus' issues after I also elaborate about him here .

Think about this. It was Lilia who raised him despite his grandmother is still alive. He was highly respected as much he was feared. What does it means?

He feels like he is not loved, not wanted for being who he is, and instead wanted for his status.

That was Maleficent's issues, what makes her furious is the realization nobody wants her around.

And as much he fears people doesn't love him for he is , only admiring/respecting him for his status and power, not for who he is, he also fears loving people for he knows they will leave him, that he's bound to say goodbye one day . And this is not just because he's a fey, no, people come and go in your life is natural part of circle of life, even mortal life, and even real people also have issues with it, as seen with Cater.

Empty nest syndrome is a thing, and while Lilia, who raised the other Diasomnia kids are okay with the other kids (Silver and Sebek) are leaving, will Malleus be okay with it? In the sibling way? that adults are bound to part ways , living their own life with much less contact? I think he will overblot, partially becaue empty nest syndrome

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riddle: with all due respect, kingscholar senpai, i am aware you are raised as a prince but this is a queendom

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I don't know much about this Twst!Elsa but I think I'm shipping them with Vil after one of the last asks, kdjfdkfjdkfkjfkfslkfdk.

~Mod Lag

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The thing that Drace said about Vil dancing to his death metaphor for pushing himself too far to the point of exhaustion, I'm surprised he hasn't suffer from extreme fatigue for pushing to his limits.

I know? Vil really pushed himself, so much he ended up going into Overblot, and had it not been Deuce, I don't even know if they would have been able to stop him before the Ghost consumed him.

~Mod Lag

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In your opinion Lag, what kind of person Vil would want for a love interest?

I've been thinking about this, hmm...

Vil might prefer someone that has their goals set and works towards them, just like him; if the other person has listened to him and has understood his ideas and ideals, Vil will repay the same in kindness.

Someone that will listen in general is important, I believe. I think he might also prefer someone that likes silence, and that would like to remain by him in silent company from time to time; someone to spend a moment of respite with, relaxing, meditating, working even if not on the same thing.

From the way his relationship with Rook works, someone that doesn't fear being honest is important as well! No lies and no keeping big secrets from each other, and talking things out sincerely when there's a misunderstanding.

~Mod Lag

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I would love to see a Twst character who has a serious identity and existential crisis.

Depending on how the current Ep (The Guard of the Underworld) plays out towards its quickly approaching ending, we might just see that soon...

If not, I have a feeling Malleus or Silver could suffer from this during Ep7 as well.

~Mod Lag

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IDK how am I gonna able to establish my Twst Elsa relationship with Vil and Rook honestly. The fact Vil and Rook are very close, that it seems like my Twst Elsa is just like a 3rd wheeler or an extra for no reason. I've already established their relationship with Rook, but with Vil is much more, hard. The thought of it makes my OCs life so sad that seems on reflecting well on Elsa's forced self isolation to others. That's what I feel when I'm trying to write Twst Elsa and Vil's relationship.

Your Twst!Elsa doesn't have to be a 3rd wheel! I think we might need a little extra info first: Is your Twst!Elsa in the same grade as Vil? If so, why didn't they approach before? Are they a newcomer, or did they just arrive close to Yuu's arrival (either as a 1st Year or a transfer student)? I think the way your Elsa approaches Vil will be different depending on this.

Either way, while Vil doesn't trust easily, that doesn't mean he's not open to meet new people and make acquaintances, just that he will approach with a lot more caution. Vil could find a point to relate to this Twst!Elsa in that isolation, too, as Vil has built barriers of his own around himself. Could be very interesting to see them pursue each other and deal with that distrust and anxiety. As for Rook, oh, Rook I think is especially open to meet new people and admire the unique beauty in each individual. I believe he would be pumped to meet someone like Twst!Elsa, and if they manage to get closer to Vil, Rook would be happy to see their relationship flourish, especially if Vil seems to be happy and thriving in it. He would be delighted to see them both become more beautiful together.

~Mod Lag

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Sorry for the sudden absence! I'll try to be answering some asks tonight and poke Drace to come give her comments on questions that are asking for her opinion too.

~Mod Lag

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I can't help but laugh at some English fans mistaken Lilia as a girl. And here I thought Epel is the one who gets the misgender treatment.

Oh, really? I didn't expect that! I've been playing Twst since practically the month of its original release and I never saw anyone mistake Lilia back then lmao.

Just wait until they hear him talk.

~Mod Lag

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Vil and Leona are quite similar with each other in a way that they always keep holding into their facade to hide their emotions and vulnerability, simply cause they don't want to be seen as weak. While Vil may had been able to show his vulnerability, he still hasn't poured everything out yet, while Leona is too stubborn and still chose to keep his feelings, even tho he might've able to make amends with his family. One can't just pour out all the pain they feel just like that.

To be fair, a good chunk of the main cast is putting up a façade to hide their emotions and vulnerabilities, we get to uncover them as we go on, like it had been the case for these two, but I also think of the likes of Riddle, Cater, Azul, Jamil and so on and so on. Leona and Vil share a lot of similarities not exclusively with each other, but also with the others I have just mentioned. As the likes of Cater aren't in the spotlight, we might not even see him share what he truly feels with the others and pour all that despair out, which is, really sad. And we while we have seen development on Azul, we are yet to see him making peace with who he truly is.

What I'm trying to say is, the cases of Leona and Vil are most definitely not same, though they share similarities not only with themselves, but with others in the cast as well. This game is a lot about learning about who you are and learning to accept yourself and your feelings.

As a last thought, I always thought Leona and Idia were more similar for a few reasons. Held back by despair everlasting that relates to family line stuff and shoved in a spot they didn't want, berating themselves for their shortcomings, depressed, and making up an uncaring harsh persona to try and make themselves believe they are worthy, more worthy than the others, worth of their own selves, despite their supposed and legit failures. Though, their cases are not exactly the same, either. And in that case, I think Malleus will end up sharing a lot of this, too.

~Mod Lag

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When I read about Yuuya's character, I feel that I prefer Yuuken more than him. He's just too soft to be a therapist in a school full of problematic students, who can simply beat him down. Unless they gave him a character development where he slowly starts to become more stronger and confident of himself. I don't hate sensitive type of men, but Yuuya doesn't seem to fit right in Twst to me. Yuu is like a mix of Yuuken and Yuuya, that is seems like they got split into 2 separate personalities.

I'm seeing these kinds of opinions floating around, everyone has their preferences, that's just fine! I understand that to some Yuuya might even seem like the typical Isekai MC, but it doesn't have to be like that. It's not like his life has improved being brought into the Twisted Wonderland lol, having to play impromptu therapist for all kinds of troubled younguns being one himself; which, ironically, is the kind of character that would fit right into this story.

In my personal opinion, it's interesting to see a new take on the story with this Yuu that was less than prepared for such a big change. This is less a Yuu that can guide the cast like Yuuken, and a less neutral Yuu than his game counterpart; Yuuya is another troubled youth that can develop alongside the others in this school, without losing his kindness and soft demeanor. Kindness does have a place in NRC after all, we have seen it in the likes of Kalim, Jack and Deuce.

And, yeah, everyone at the school is so powerful they could beat Yuuya senseless, but it's not like they will, it's kind of funny to me you imply that. It would be out of character for practically the entirety of the main cast to do so unprovoked or because someone is trying to be kind to them. At most, they will insult you and keep walking, even if not out of an obligation to a friendly relation or any moral code at first, they will do so simply because they don't consider it worth their time and effort to play around with someone that's so weak. Not even Leona would do it if you stepped on his tail. The guys are also not stupid; they know that if something happens to Yuu, Crowley will have their asses since, again, Yuu in any iteration is a special case and it is still Crowley's responsibility, and it will still look awful if a human gets severely injured in college grounds.

Being kind and soft is not necessarily a weakness, either, even if it would be nice if Yuuya developed to be more confident (and I heard he is? As I mentioned earlier, it's interesting that now we get an MC that needs to sort an extreme amount of baggage just like his newfound peers). Strength, he will gain it, I'm sure of it, but strength can be many things. If you mean physical or magical strength, that's not entirely necessary. Emotional and mental strength, or stability more like, that he could do with.

~Mod Lag

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One of the things the reason why I created Twst Elsa was to be that person who Vil can really trust enough to show his imperfect side with with no judgement. Sure he has Rook, and Rook is ok with Vil's imperfect side but as I see probably, I think Vil never really show any weakness in front of Rook nor anyone, even when he apologizes for what he's done, he still act professional. So having a friend who he can be himself the most with is something different to see. I think?

Sure, that and, having an external party that can offer a new perspective on matters is always good, so the idea of a character like your Twst Elsa can work great.

But, if you want to like, work with canon only, and from my point of view, it is not necessary. That doesn't mean you can't do it, of course! Having a new friend that Vil clicks with and can trust deeply in consequence would probably help accelerate his process of healing a little. But what I'm getting to here is, if this also like, about the matter of the asks that mentioned giving Idia a Twst Persephone to help him get there, this is why say it's not necessary. Vil essentially needs to learn to be more lax with himself and that he can place his trust on the others to help and listen to him. He can learn this beside the friends he already has, like Rook and Epel. Vil can learn to trust Rook truly, talk to him honestly, and set his boundaries when Rook is putting things too bluntly for him. He can learn to listen to Epel a little more closely, while Epel does the same so they can reach certain agreements or be in peace with their disagreements. Vil, much like Idia, doesn't need a romantic love interest to sweep him off his feet and "save him".

~Mod Lag