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Why are jikookers being labeled as the scum of the earth?

It’s not because they flood our feeds with endless jikook pics( We love those!!! ) it’s because they’re the reigning champions of hypocrisy! They throw shade at taekookers for snapping pics of Taekook in public, but the moment Jikook steps out, all principles are thrown out the window.

What kind of logic is this? Let’s break it down:

Jikook was in a public space: Oh, suddenly it’s a free-for-all! Apparently, if you’re in public, you’re fair game for a thousand flashbulbs.

Apparently, Jikook is Public Property: Jikook are the new national treasures! Forget the Mona Lisa. We’ve got Jikook selfies to collect.

But..but..they are celebrities: Right, because being famous means you’ve signed up for a lifetime of being stalked by fans with cameras. Who needs privacy, am I right?

Everyone’s Doing It: Classic excuse! If everyone jumped off a cliff, would you? Oh wait, you probably would if Jikook was at the bottom!

The mental gymnastics these folks are doing to justify their behaviour is Olympic-level! It’s like they’re trying to convince themselves that their twisted logic is somehow valid. Newsflash: it’s not!

it’s not wrong to enjoy your ship! What’s wrong is you idiots trying to find things to "prove" your ship. You don’t even seem to be doing this for fun anymore. it’s like you’re on a scavenger hunt for evidence instead of just enjoying the ride.

not everything is about proving your ship, you simpletons! Jikook are out there having fun, living their lives, and enjoying each other’s company. Why can’t you just let them be?

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oh my god, people, please grow up.

JK apologized because he wanted to. end of.

When are you going to learn to respect the tannies?

This is JK. He never does anything he doesn't want to. He listened to the reasons why his actions caused hurt, and he thought they were worthy enough, so he made an informed decision to apologize.

If he didn't think the noise was worthy enough, he wouldn't give two farts. He is a grown ass man he can do what he wants.

You shippers have to stay in your lane. I don't think you should be allowed on the adult table yet! Just stick to your shipping fantasies, you don't seem to understand how adults operate yet!!

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I love how jikookers/taekookers react to other "straight shippers."

It's either "Thank god, it's not someone from my ship" or

"How dare you do exactly what I do! You are so disrespectful"

Umm, suddenly remembered they are human beings, did ya..?

It's almost as if shippers have a special "hypocrisy switch" that they flip on and off at will. "I'm just passionately expressing my love for this fictional couple... but you're being creepy and invasive for doing the same thing!"

Give me a break.

I think it's safe to say that none of you are exactly the epitome of respect for their personal boundaries.

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In essence, if an account said they are ot7, they have to do what they say on the tin and just show equal devotion and enthusiasm for all 7 all the time. If they don't, they should be called out for it. This is what is expected, right?

How do you measure their so-called support? Has someone started a spreadsheet to track how many posts they have of each member? Is it okay to call them out if they don't reach their quota of each member, is that how it works ?

Maybe I am biased(because I had an ot7 account too), but its hardwork to maintain an ot7 account on x. They are like everyone's punching bag. No one is ever satisfied with what they post. They get called out for favouritism from every solo and shipper there is.

We've normalized the practice of scrutinizing every aspect of how someone supports the tannies, to the point where it's become second nature. The line has blurred from calling out blatant hate to criticizing perceived hate, and now we're even judging support that simply doesn't meet someone's personal standards. It's like we've created a culture of fandom gatekeeping, where everyone feels entitled to dictate how others should be fans.

You are not streaming enough, you are not buying enough merch( like I want to but some mass produced shit just because it has the tannies name on it, buy from the other fans instead who hand make it with so much love and devotion ), you don’t post enough, you are not voting enough.

I don't understand how everyone is just okay with this. Where will it stop ?

I don't care what someone calls themselves or how they choose to run their account. they can do whatever they want. if i see something that makes me angry, i'll rant about it on my own account, but i'm not going to go to their account and tell them what to do.

That is just my perogative. I am not saying everyone has to do what I do. I am saying I just don't understand why go to the scene of crime again and again just to get all worked up. Each to their own. don't come to just sh*t in my playground. I am perfectly happy to play on my own.

I know people say calling out these accounts will help baby ARMY understand what it means to be ot7 or whatever, but that doesn't make sense to me either.

All we are teaching baby ARMY is hate people if they don't do exactly what you expect them to do. It doesn't matter if they are actually posting hate tweets, if they like something that you don't think they should like then its okay to hate on them.

Hate is hate, regardless of the justification.

You people keep telling me that jm is so hated by everyone but I never saw any evidence of it( except the screenshots of hate filled tweets of people i already blocked that jikookers often bring to my tl, like I want to see that) My tl was just jm, jm and more jm. Who cares if it is by pjms or jm fans or some random K-pop fan. Isn’t it enough he is loved by so many people? You have to go fight people who you think don't love him or don't love him enough. ( I mean, fair, I don't understand how anyone is not at least a lil bit in love with him, but that's just me!).

Just love and let love.

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At this point, it really feels like you're just trying to passive-aggressively antagonize Jikookers and clog up the tag just to start something. You didn’t even take the time to understand the full situation before jumping in and making assumptions about anyone who was upset or hurt by this situation. And honestly for me, this has very little to do with Jikook, other than maybe part of the resentment growing for him is because of how close they are. What’s been so eye-opening is how quickly the fandom or people claiming to be ARMY turned on anyone who wanted to vote for Jimin in the name of “supporting RM.” The way people vilified others, even if they were still supporting a BTS member, was nasty and honestly hard to watch. Making backhanded comments towards Jimin and his artistry, just to try and justify it more.

I’ll always support the boys, but I’m taking a big step back from the fandom. This whole situation opened a can of worms, and I'm not going to be here for it. More of the members are going to be nominated in the same categories in the future, and now this kind of mess is bound to repeat. Big voting accounts not just RM specific accounts made up their own logic, and everyone blindly followed. They should’ve stayed neutral like we have always done and said “split the vote” or “vote for whoever you want” instead of turning it into a war against one member. Like does every single member need to win a major award before another is ‘allowed’ to be supported? Or is this logic just reserved for Jimin?

And I’m seeing this negativity everywhere, not just on Twitter. I saw someone casually backhandedly call Jimin a “pick me” in a video just because he was laughing.... it was so low key it was honestly jarring, I don’t know if it’s solos, shippers or jimin antis, but there’s a growing large number of people who claim to be ARMY but act like Jimin is still trying to steal their man or someone else’s man or is upset that he gets the attention or recognition they don't think he deserves. Deny it all you want, but the fandom is becoming increasingly bitter toward him as a whole. And they use opportunities like this to plant seeds and drag him down in such an underhanded way that it just flies under the radar and people not tuned in just follow along without questioning it.

And just watch: if someone other than Namjoon wins, the blame will fall on anyone who voted for Jimin for “ruining it.” But these same people dragging Jimin voters aren’t even streaming or promoting RM’s music, they’re just using this moment to go against Jimin. Then, if Jimin does win and thanks ARMY, while still being bitter the same people will suddenly be the first to take credit, after dragging him and anyone who voted for him nonstop. I just hope this stupid award was worth everyone's fucking integrity. For a fucking award show that just wants our engagement and doesn't give a damn about either of them or their artistry and just slapped them both in the kpop category and called it a day.

It honestly disgusts me. I’m just so glad Jimin is mostly offline and doesn’t have to see how fast the people he cares so deeply for flipped on him. Namjoon once said in a live that ARMY had changed, and at the time, it broke my heart. I wanted to believe we could do better. But now? I completely agree with him.

Firstly, here you go....

Secondly, you have to pick your battles darling, you can't let every tom dick and harry on here make you sad. You're giving too much power to strangers who truly aren't worth your energy.

I know it feels like the whole world is against JM right now, but honestly, it’s not as bad as it seems! The haters are just like those pesky mosquitoes buzzing around, trying to get a bite out of you. They are just loud, not right!!

Hope you have a positive experience again, Anon. Stay strong and focus on what truly matters!

Good luck!!

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Am I right in understanding that you support the vkookers, you are vkkoker, and you are not at all upset by how they try to pretend that they are Namjoon's fanbase or OT7 and openly hate Jimin?

I am not a vkooker/vkkoker or any of the other shippers.

I like all of them, but vmin are my wrecker and ult, respectively.

I don't condone hate on any of the tannies.

RM fanbases would want to vote for RM just like any other solo fanbases. I don't equate that to hating on other members.

I am not on X ( anymore ), so I don't know who is hating who(whom??) currently. But if they are openly hating on any of the tannies, then of course, I will block and report them. I will not try to make them see reason or fight them.

Am I upset that major accounts are not voting for my ult? not really because no matter what anyone says, people will vote for their own biases.

This is chapter 2, I can’t expect everyone to stay true ot7. I don't even know how that would look like. Their biases will definitely show, I can't blame them for that.

I, for one, didn't vote for RM even if I liked him because I like jm a little more.

Hope that answers your questions, anon.

Edit: You are my 100th post anon. How cool is that!!!

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I can kind of understand why ARMY chose to concentrate on RM. It seems logical. I am trying to understand why jikookers are angry about this ??

Because no "fandom" agreed on this? If you go and dig through all these big "ot7" accounts, they will either be tkkrs or solo tkk. That's the only reason why they're pushing so hard to vote for Namjoon. Not so he can win, but so Jimin can lose. Look at the fandom, they lost in all the other votes and they are not campaigning to "give the award" to any of the other members in other votes. But this is a matter of principle.

Seriously, people, how long will you deny reality and pretend that nothing like this exists. These scumbags have already started making fake accusations against pjms that they stole army accounts and are voting for Jimin from them. This is a preparation in case Jimin wins, to trample him into the dirt again, as if his victory was not deserved, it's all a scam, it's all a lie. Lol.

No wonder jikookers are all round the bend, it is a shipping war. No more questions, you do you anon.

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New anon hers, Have you Seen the whole RM fanbase mess?

If so, i hope you started to realise that the jimin fans are right to be angry. The original Problem wasnt that the fandom choose nj. The Problems are:

How they went about it, saying jm doesnt deserve it. Saying jm is happy for joon (which kinda implies that joon wouldnt If it we're reserved, which makes this problematic in my opinion)

They were lying about how the choose jimin in other votings. First tma, they choose to Vote for the leading member, which at First was yg, when jimin stans surpassed him,big fanbases went inactive and even Made Jokes about voting for the competition. Second Mama, the fandom didn't choose jm, after the First round Most wanted to Vote for JK, and many only started to Vote for Jm when He was leading the bonsang category in the second round. Also Both examples there were at least some hints to who was leading, so i don't think These Awards qualify as Awards which the fandom choose jimin

How they attacked ot7 for voting for jm, or voting collabs or voting poll accs. Or even the offical amas accs for making a Post about jm (they did one for every nominee). How can one say the Stan all 7 when they are attacking people who vote for one of These people??? They kicked people Out of group Chats because they voted for jimin??

Working with jimin solos is forbidden, but every other solo is ok? Why are jimin solos who never Said anything against others members hated but e.g. accs like Bella (know jimin anti) allowed?

The fandom choosing to all Vote for nj but at First (til PJMs reminded them) forgeting to Vote for him at SMA makes it seem Like they Care more about making jimin loose than getting joon an Award. Why did they all ignore SMA which had an non bts competitor but jumped at the chance to Vote against annother member

I really Like joon,and in my opinion he and jimin both would deserve this win, but how the fandom acted, made it seem like the fandom is mostly using this oppertunity to make jimin loose/ teach PJMs a lesson.

I can't remember the fandom ever choosing one member when there werent any Numbers to Back it Up. Just Look at the european music Awards, both JK and jm were nominated. The fandom never choose one. Why did they start now?

And now its revealed that some Army accs were staying silent while RM fanbases were lying about PJMs "stealing" accs. Its crazy, how they can keep quiet while those fanbases were manipulating the whole fandom and in doing this making a possible win for Jm seen not earned.

Hello New Anon,

I completely understand you and mostly agree with you, but it is not all that black and white as I have come to observe.

The voting rules and accounts have been quite unclear since the beginning of Chapter 2. It's somewhat naive to believe that these OT7 accounts are free from biases.

Is it unfair for them to use their platforms to rally votes for their biases? Yes, but it's also not surprising.

The ARMY has always thrived on competition. BTS started as the underdogs, and we rallied behind them. Now, it's undeniable that the rap line is facing an uphill battle, as the maknae line has garnered the most solo fans. Among them, the PJMs are particularly dedicated and strategic in their voting efforts. Solo fans don’t need guidance on who to support they will naturally vote for their own biases.

So, why shouldn't voting accounts choose their preferred members? After all, they are still supporting someone from BTS, right? Are there accounts that genuinely oppose JM? maybe (though I personally struggle to understand how anyone could dislike any of the members, that's a different discussion).

In the past, it was simply BTS against other groups, making it easier to vote without revealing personal biases. Now, however, it's BTS competing against itself. For these accounts, it may genuinely feel like their ultimate bias is pitted against another member. Do they harbor animosity towards the other member? Probably not; they just want their favorite to win, which is why they encourage their followers to vote for them. It could be as straightforward as that.

Are they hypocritical? Yes. Could they have communicated their strategies more effectively? Absolutely. Are they misusing their influence? Certainly. But at the end of the day, they are human, and their biases inevitably come to the forefront.

At the end of the day, anon, there are not many people who genuinely do what these "big" accounts ask them to do.

I, for one, don't need someone on the internet to tell me who to vote for, I will vote for my ult, but that doesn't mean I hate RM. I just like JM a little more.

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No one has any problem with armys wanting to vote for RM the problem is them never choosing jm as the priority for any award show BY CHOICE but always because they had to because of the rules they created themselves and because they had no option if they didn't wanna come off as anti jm.

They chose yoongi for TMA and were voting more for him and said for last they'd chose to vote whichever member was leading and Pjms made jm lead in second round so by their own rules armys had to vote for jm despite them choosing yg as the first option. Jungkook was the priority BY CHOICE from armys for MAMA daesang but again same thing happened that jm ended up at the top so they ended up in a situation where they either vote for jm or lose the daesang that bts has been winning for past many yrs to enhypen so they voted for jm because the chances of winning a member was only jm as he was the leading one in second round.

You understand why pjms are mad but don't understand why jkkrs are mad?? Like isn't it a very common sense that they're mad for the same reason?? Both are mad for prettty much the same reason what's the rocket science behind it that you wanna know? Or it's ur habit of always wanting to take a dig at jkkrs??

I can understand why pjms are mad because they are dedicated voters and work hard and strategize to help him win.

But jikookers, as far as I remember, only care about the ship. I don't remember any of them even voting even before Chapter 2. So no, I don't understand why they are so indignant now.