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I need to vent...

Do you guys believe there are people who still claim Iris and Barry were related, as in (step/adopted) brother and sister (or whatever)?

Went to Twitter to support WestAllen TeenChoice nomination and a brasilian fan claimed it was incest and I naively replied and the rest is a sequence of replies that are completely stupid.

I don't know why I even bother...

I'm sorry, but I just couldn't keep it to myself.

It's been 4 seasons and they're still at it?

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Siren Season 1 Finale

 Hello there! How’s everybody? 

I’ve been wanting to write my thoughts on the season finale but I wasn’t sure if I should do it or not, but... Well, I’m writing it. So... 

Well... What can I say? 

Did I like the episode? Yes, I did. 

Did I think it was an awesome episode, a season finale worthy one? Not really. But it was still a satisfying episode. 

I read some posts saying they were disappointed at the finale, that it was kinda dull, that it didn’t feel like a season finale because it left almost nothing to look foward to next season and so on.

Well, I agre and disagree at the same time. And I say this because we need to look at it from two different perspectives.��

I do think the producers and the network truly believed - like 80% believed - the show wouldn’t get a second season, so they tried to complete most of the arcs we were presented during the season. When we look at this perspective then everything they did makes sense, even Donna’s and Decker’s deaths. So, yes, we understand it. I mean, it was supposed to be over.

But the show was a success and it was renewed for another season, and THAT is were the problem lies. Not really, really “a problem”, just a little bit “off”... Kinda? 

Anyway...

Now we need look at this second perspective (ours / mine perspective). I don’t think that killing Donna and Decker (yes, him too) was the best decision they made. Their arc was simply put to an end but not developed. It seems to me that Donna served as a plot device to Ryn’s character’s growth and Decker just a parallel to Ben and to insert the military threat to the merfolks.  

I was really hoping that we would get to see more of Donna, especially because we saw her being more understanding of Ryn’s friendly behavior towards humans. I wanted to see Donna experience something similar. I wanted her to know what it is like to be loved and accepted for who she was. And they robbed me (us) of that. 

I kinda wanted Decker to redeemed somehow. I didn’t like him but I thought the character had potential.  

Now, Helen’s arc... Her history was so brief - don’t get me wrong, I liked that she revealed the truth and all - but I was expecting so much more. I had huge expectations for her character’s history, like something really, relly shooking. But, maybe they will try and broad her arc next season. 

Dale, Xander and Ted... They were just there. I mean, kind of. And Calvin... From comic relief to a total scumbag. Seriously, I don’t get him as a character. I just don’t. 

About our beloved trio, I think what they did to them was ok enouogh. Understandable and reasonable enough. I liked it. I guess, it was well done and left some possibilities for the second season. 

So, I think I give it a 7 for a season finale. 

What about you? Anyone had different thoughts? 

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Interesting point of view. Too be honest, I don't know what to think anymore. I firmly thought that even though Ben is kind of going out of his mind right now, it is because the song is doing things to him he can't understand and then we would see it really is going to be the so called great love but now I am not so sure. Maybe Ben is really completely obsessed and there is no love behind his actions. Who knows? Let's wait and see.

I know this is unlikely to be true but

Both times Ryn sang to Ben she was in her human form. When Donna sang to Decker and then Chris she was in her siren form…so maybe that makes a difference? I know, I know, I’m just desperate for my ship not to sink lol

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So, here's what I think...

Well, well, well, I really like this episode. So many good stuff happened. I was really excited that finally Ben's feelings are being shown, though they are a little bit twisted at the moment, they come from a genuine place.

Ryn is also a little bit confused about what she feels. I think she didn't quite understand what Ben meant when he said he needed her, but she was moved that much is clear. Ben had a real rough time this episode, you could see he was doing everything in his power to keep his hands to himself. He's completely wrapped around Ryn's little fingers. Poor boy!

Now there’s something I really need to discuss...

Again I see many of you blaming Ben for almost everything bad that happened. Saying everything he did was stupid, like Ben is the source of all evil. He is not the only one responsible for everything that happened. Every single action of every single person in that episode led to Donna being shot.

If you want someone to blame we could start blaming Donna herself. She could have respected Ryn's decision but no, she had to involve Levi and Katrina. I get it, get it. She wanted her sister back and she doesn’t trust humans. But she could have tried to listen to what Ryn had to say first.  

Well, what about Levi and Katrina? They lied to Donna, so we could put the blame on them. No? Yes? Maybe?

And Dale? He jumped into action and went out hunting the merpeople. He could have waited a little bit too. Oh, I know, he was just doing his job, protecting the town, I get it. But I think he should have been more cautious. 

And what about Maddie? Oh, Saint Maddie is never wrong. Yeah, right! You're forgetting she could have reasoned with her father and not get him involved but even though she was hesitant a little she did nothing to stop her father and the police force putting them all in danger. And let's not forget she didn't think twice before shooting Levi. She was defending her father! Yeah, I get it! 

And Xander? He was out for blood, everything he did was stupid, but he was grieving and angry... Don't forget he is the one that pulled the trigger. And he was the one that wanted to kill Levi in te first place. 

Helen, our mermaid in disguise. I think she should be held responsible as well. So far, I think Donna is the only one that truly knows Helen is a mermaid (or is she?). Ryn suspects it but doesn’t know for sure. Helen could have told the truth to everyone involved, Ryn, Ben, Maddie and even Xander (maybe). I don’t know, she could have maybe tried to stopped Levi and Katrina instead of always lecturing everyone around. 

And what about Ryn? Stupid-obsessed-evil-Ben was doing what Saint Maddie told him to do, "waiting" in the boat house until Xander showed up and Ryn agreeing with him, saying they should go after Levi and Katrina and kill them. Ben even asked her if she was sure. Don’t forget, Ryn made the call and  Stupid-obsessed-evil-Ben followed.

Now, let's think back a little... All of this wouldn't have happened if Decker and the military didn't hurt Donna. So Decker is our bad guy here. But actually, Decker was only able to get his hands on Donna because Sean and his crew fished her out in the first place, so Sean and the crew are the ones to blame. But again, Donna wouldn't have been caught if Ryn didn't suggest they go closer to the surface to find food even though she knew she wasn't supposed to. There you have it, Ryn, our cinnamon roll, guilty as charged!

Oh, yeah, you're asking "What about Ben? Isn't Ben also reaponsible?" Of course he is! His judgement is all over the place. He thinks somehow he can save everyone on his own. He's totally delusional. He made real bad decisions thinking they were the right ones. He's in denial when it comes to his feelings for Ryn. He didn't think things through when he went out with Xander and the others, believing that somehow he would be able to convince them not to capture Donna and even help him stop the military to capture the merpeople themselves and all of this without disclosing the whole truth to them. So yeah, it is a big mess. 

But what I’m trying to say here is everyone is at fault, everyone played a part in this. 

So why am I seeing everywhere “Ben, stupid” “Stupid, Ben”, mostly Ben and Stupid associated? 

Seriously? Tell me, but be real honest about it. If Maddie was the one doing everything Ben did in this episode, what would you think of her? Would praise her? Would you say she was defending her boo if she didn’t want the cops to get involved because she was afraid Ryn might get caught? Would say Maddie was real brave for pushing Xander to the side, trying to prevent him from shooting Ryn but Donna accidentaly getting shot in the process?  

Seriously, be honest. If it were Maddie taking Ryn’s hand or caressing Ryn’s lower back, saying that she needed Ryn to stay... Would you find it creepy? That it wasn’t the right time for that? Picture it, all those scenes and tell me. Please, I wanna know...

Anyway, I think Ben and Maddie are pretty much over. To be honest, I never liked them as boyfriend and girlfriend. I think Maddie deserves someone who truly loves her and only her. Is that person Xander? I don’t know? Is that person Ryn? I truly hope not. Is that person another mermaid or merman? Maybe, who knows? But it is definitely not Ben. 

On the side note: I laughed so hard when I saw Ben’s white @ss being dragged down by those mermaids! And he tried to fire an unloaded weapon? He had really silly moments in this episode, I give you that. I love him but I was laughing out loud! 

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Ben's father and Helen

Tell me. Why nobody is talking about Ben's father and Helen? Come on!

1: Ted gives Helen a monthly check.

Why?

2: "Afterall, we're family"; Helen's own words.

How?

3: Why are Helen and Ted worried about Maddie? Why do they want to help her? I mean, she is independent, she has a father and a boyfriend. Why do they want to financially help her?

So many secrets and Helen is right in the middle of everything!

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Ryn & Ben  ☦ I don´t want Fall in love 

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Really?

I’ve yet to watch The Flash season 4 but I felt the need to come here and ask... 

Are “we” still on the “Barry and Iris are not meant for each other” or “Iris is not Barry’s type” or “Iris and WestAllen ruined the show” or “Iris is selfish, manipulative, two-faced blah blah blah”????? Are “we” still doing that? 

No,seriously, these people need some serious therapy. I don’t know what else to say. 

Some people are already shipping Barry with that “lady luck” or whatever her name is on the show. 

I really don’t understand this. We’re already on the 4th season and they can’t let it go. 

Sometimes I even ask myself if we’re watching the same show. 

I know I shouldn’t bother but... 

Whatever

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what a fool i am, o God, to chase after other things when you are enough.

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Hi! Just read what you said... 

“ As an exercise in self analysis, what would your opinions be if you went back to your post and highlighted every criticism that you made that uses the book as justification”.

Well, I’d say Still Star-Crossed was a bold project with great potential, great actors but the narrative didn’t quite work. Something is missing. The dinamic among the characters is not as fluid as it’s supposed to be. The so called epic love between the leads is not that epic... This is my point of view. Even though I think SSC left something to be desired, I still like it. I still think the show deserved to be treated better. 

Now... 

“ One criticism that applies specifically to the TV production and not the book is the idea that the diversity within family units is so odd that it needs some extended explanation”.

Well, I don’t like it either, but it does need to be “explained” in some way or another. I say this because that’s how the majority of people think. I’ve seen a lot of posts questioning how Romeo was black and the rest of his family wasn’t. They can’t think out of the box, so that’s why it needs some sort of an explanation.

“ There are places in the US and other countries around the globe where the population is amazingly homogeneous, but in many places in the US there is diversity within families. I don’t think it is as unrealistic as you suggest”.

What? Did I suggest such a thing? I kinda feel personally offended here. Maybe my words were a little bit confusing. I think you misundertood me. Multiracial families are my normal. My great grandmother was black as night and her husband, my great grandfather, was a blue eyed white almost transparent male. I’ve got Italian great grandparents too and a grandfather born from native and black parents. Should I go on? I’m from Brazil. Being diverse is what means to be Brazilian. I don’t see the point of posting a pic of Obama and his sister. 

Anyway... 

I still support Still Star-Crossed. I hope Shonda can save it now that she’s with Netflix. But there’s no way I will ignore everything that’s wrong with it just because I like it. 

An unpopular opinion...

So, I finally mustered up the courage to watch Still Star-Crossed finale. I have to say that it was a much, much better put together episode. The background song for the Rosvolio kiss was on point (FINALLY). If I am not mistaken, the song they used for the Rosvolio kiss is a variation of the instrumental song from Baz Lhurmann’s Romeo and Juliet (1996); I might be wrong, though.

Now, let’s get to the point of this post.

Well, I decided to be completely honest with all of you. I want you to know that I am looking at the “Still Star-crossed Project” not as a fan of the show – which I am – but I am trying to look at it with critical eyes. No bias or whatsoever.

 I have to warn you. This is going to be a long post and a lot of what’s in here is most definitely going to “upset” a lot of people. But, please, don’t be mad at me just yet. Try to put your feelings towards the project aside and just read what I have to say and then, if you still think I am wrong, just say it so.

 With that being said…

Keep reading

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An unpopular opinion...

So, I finally mustered up the courage to watch Still Star-Crossed finale. I have to say that it was a much, much better put together episode. The background song for the Rosvolio kiss was on point (FINALLY). If I am not mistaken, the song they used for the Rosvolio kiss is a variation of the instrumental song from Baz Lhurmann’s Romeo and Juliet (1996); I might be wrong, though.

Now, let’s get to the point of this post.

Well, I decided to be completely honest with all of you. I want you to know that I am looking at the “Still Star-crossed Project” not as a fan of the show – which I am – but I am trying to look at it with critical eyes. No bias or whatsoever.

 I have to warn you. This is going to be a long post and a lot of what’s in here is most definitely going to “upset” a lot of people. But, please, don’t be mad at me just yet. Try to put your feelings towards the project aside and just read what I have to say and then, if you still think I am wrong, just say it so.

 With that being said…

I completely understand why Still Star-crossed was canceled. Actually, in my opinion, it shouldn’t even have been aired in the first place.  I say this because there were so many mistakes, TOO MANY, actually.

The writing was all over the place, the editing, the transition between scenes, the music, the understanding of the characters, the network, the time slot it was given…

 So basically everything?

 No, not everything. Definitely, not everything.

 The cast is amazing.

The changes they made with some of the characters were really good and intriguing. Princess Isabella, Lord Montague, Lady Helena, Tessa Montague, Lord Capulet… I would love to see their stories unravel.

I don’t know if you understand what I’m saying so I’ll try to elaborate a bit more. 

This kind of story is not supposed to go on for seasons and seasons. It requires a beginning and an end. It was meant to be a limited series all along. 

I’m not sure if it was the writing that sunk the project or if it was the overall misunderstanding of the project in and of itself.

I think that they were trying to make a political statement… not really political, maybe a social statement or a race statement or an equality statement? I don’t know… 

It seems to me that they were trying to create something so bold and ambitious that they somehow forgot what the story was really about and how this kind of story really appeals to the audience. 

I don’t think Still Star-Crossed sunk because of the color blind casting or lack of promotion (I believe the lack of promotion was an effect, actually, not a cause). Still Star-Crossed didn’t work because it failed to connect with the audience. And when I say “audience” I don’t mean “us”.

Everything that was cut, everything that was left unsaid and unexplained… 

I know, they felt like they didn’t have to. But unfortunately we still live in a world where we need to explain why some family members are from one race and some are from another. This caused confusion in so many viewers (racists or not), just overall confusion. People wanted a simple and clean explanation. Nothing a flashback scene couldn’t handle.

Another issue that I noticed is that even though the narrative tried to imply it otherwise, the characters were emotionally distant. Again, not the actors fault. They did an amazing job with what they were given. There was only so much they could do… I am blaming the writers and the directors for this. Like I said before, they didn’t quite understand the characters. 

Another mistake: they changed Shakespeare. You can play with Shakespeare but you can not change it. Changing Romeo and Juliet’s story was a bad call. Specially because it was supposed to be a sequel. Never mentioning, not even once, that Romeo was in love with Rosaline first? How come? This very fact should be a catalyst between Rosaline and Benvolio and yet it was erased completely. With what puporse? I don’t know. Hide from Verona that Romeo and Juliet were in love? Not even her parents seemed to know those two married in secret. Or did I miss something? (Maybe I did). 

Now, a very, very delicate matter…The unbalanced relationship between the leads. 

Benvolio and Rosaline were not equals, they did not bring out the best and the worst in each other, at least, not how they were supposed to. 

They portraited Benvolio as a lost soul, a lone and misundertood character and I actually liked what they were trying to do with him but they also made him weak. He was supposed to be the hero of the story. The martyr. He was supposed to be strong and witted, like Rosaline implied herself but it was rather talked about than shown. She was always the one supplying all the answers. So many things came from Benvolio - bookBenvolio - that they shifted and had them come from Rosaline instead.  

Rosaline was super super strong and independent (the political, social, race, equality thing I mentioned before?). I was really annoyed at the fact that Rosaline always semeed so sure of herself. How she almost never faltered. I still can’t get over the fact that she seemed more annoyed than surprised or shaken by Escalus when she first tried to talk to him about Benvolio’s innocence and he played it out like she was doing it because Benvolio was her fiancé when he knew the truth. That was supposed to be a key moment. She was supposed to see him in a different light. It was supposed to be a grave moment but they played it out like a mockery (the music helped with the mockery tone as well). And Rosaline never really shown vulnerability. Even when she delivered that emotional speech about her parents’ death, she was more proud and angry than actually vulnerable. And that is where Benvolio was supposed to come in. 

Benvolio was supposed to make her vulnerable. He was supposed to make her falter. He was supposed to tear down her walls without asking permission. He was supposed to make her question herself. What he made her feel was supposed to be so strong and unexpected that even Livia would slip her mind. Her feelings for him was supposed to be so strong that she would rather die with him than let him be killed. And we didn’t get to see that. Not really. 

The balcony scene was good, it was great but I was expecting something breathtaking. They should have made him climb the balcony… Invade her personal space. In my opinion that scene was supposed to be powerful, emotional and sensual. What I mean is… The balcony scene is the scene were Benvolio was supposed to break her and at the same time expose himself completely (which he did) but we needed (or I needed) a physical proximity, faces inches apart, uneven breath takes, hands accidentally touching… Because that was supposed to be when they would feel the attraction awake something inside them for the first time. They were supposed to see each other as man and woman, not as Capulet and Montague. There’s a line from the book that explains it so well. “Had Romeo’s eyes ever yearned as Benvolio’s did now?” Remember, in the book, Benvolio was cupping her face (physical proximity, anyone?). 

Anyway, I could go on and on about every scene between our leads, but I wouldn’t dare to go deep about the other characters because I didn’t quite grasp them or actually care for them? Paris, for example. Why he was so twisted? Was it because of his father? Was he being manipulated? And Lady Capulet? They made her so confused that I didn’t know if she was evil or just grieving. Lord Montague interested me the most. I think there was more to him and they failed to show us. And Tessa Montague? That woman wanted power. I can’t shake the feeling she had somehting to do with the attack. Wouldn’t that be great? But they needed to show more of her. And Princess Isabella? What about our weak Prince? 

And the music? The sound effects are there to help us feel, to help us connect with the story. To help with the dynamic. But that was not what happened. 

The pace of story? It was all over the place. It was rushed and not dynamic at all. I understand they had to cut a lot of scenes but a fast paced story doesn’t always mean a dynamic one.

And what about the promos? The very first promo we saw made us believe the epic love story was between our beautiful brown leads. Benvolio was barely in the promos. They were misleading the audience and it backfired. I can’t stop thinking of a promo with a few Romeo and Juliet lines and images of Rosvolio. “My only love sprung from my only hate” “You only hate for my name” “And you hate me for mine”. Can you imagine the appeal it would have had?

So many details they missed. I know… The project was too ambitious. It got out of hand. It became too expansive. They should have planned better, then. They should have fixed the mistakes and not ignored them, knowing that in doing it so, the show would be doomed. 

I should stop here. There’s so much more I want to say. 

Please, don’t get me wrong. I still love the show. I love it, not because we have a black female lead in a period drama or because the cast was so diverse. Those were a plus, the icing on the cake. I love the show because of the story. The potential was, is enormous. And I am mad because they mistreated it. 

My intention with this post was to show they could have made different choices. They should have targeted the right demographic. The direction of the show could have been different but for that the story needed to be more important than whatever message they were trying to pull through. And maybe, even still achieve both. 

In other words, it was not the story itself, it was not the diverse cast, it was poor and careless execution.

I��m sorry, if you don’t agree with me. I still believe in the show. I still want more. Rosvolio is still my OTP. The chemistry between Lashana and Wade is too much to be wasted. And I know for a fact they can save the show and profit from it. They only need to make the right choices and changes. 

I truly hope TPTB will give Still Star-Crossed another chance. 

*By the way, I’m black. Just so you know…

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It only takes a minute. Please, help us. We only want the story to be fully told. The show has so much potential but it was given only seven episodes and was canceled after the 3rd. 

Thank you! 

Save Still Star-Crossed

I do not necessarily like doing this, as I know that it will most likely frustrate some of you to see a post about another tv show in your own tag. I apologize in advance. Although, the Still Star-Crossed fandom is in dire need of help. As some of you may already know, the show is a period drama that is set after the deaths of Romeo and Juliet.

Some may find the show quite cheesy, and whether you like that or not, it is still undoubtedly entertaining. The plot is compelling, and filled with drama. Not only that but the cast is diverse, and we finally have a black female lead in a period drama. There are a few tropes present in the show that we all know and love, such as the enemies-to-lovers trope and the arranged marriage trope.  Unfortunately, the show has been cancelled after only three episodes. The remainder of the season will be broadcast but there will be no second season. ABC did not bother to advertise it. The show would have done well if it were not for the network casting it aside, not even bothering to give it a good time slot. What I ask of you is to sign this petition to help give the show a second chance. It takes less than a minute! I would also appreciate it if you could reblog this, and spread the word. Thank you. 

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Also use different tags when tweeting the show so more people will be able to read about it. That's what I am doing. #DoIt #WhatIt #NW tag everything you can.

In order to try and make sure still star crossed is not cancelled we need to make it trend on twitter. It works for shows like when calls the heart. We can make it work for this. If we like tweet durning the show every week we may be able to save it.

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DO IT PEOPLE! 

A Sincere Request

Can y'all PLEASE watch Still Star-Crossed? It doesn’t deserved to be cancelled so quick but the ratings are just not good. We don’t get shows like this one ever. Support Still Star-Crossed, at least give it a chance.

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I have a feeling this scene is not in ep 3. I might be wrong though. The way they are looking at each other. His eyes were on her lips and her eyes are looking at him in a way that makes me think it is not pretending (or maybe it’s just wishful thinking). I can’t wait! It’s been a while since I was this invested in a show or even a ship.

I wonder if Ben picks up that Ros is only putting on a show that she loves him for Verona and he, not to be out done, plays along. If they kiss I want a whispered, What are you doing? We have to convince them we’re in love, Capulet, so let’s make it convincing. 

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I agree with @sleepyironic I think it is more like a "power thing". I don't think Rosaline and Livia actually lost their nobility but were stripped off of it by Lady Capulet. It is like being part of a very powerful and rich family but you're treated by them as the "black sheep". Everyone in their power circle knows this and simply play along and treat you the same. When both of their parents died, Rosaline and Livia had no one to defend them, and Lady Capulet did what she did and everyone else just went with it.

Can someone explain me a thing? So Rosaline and Livia’s dad was both the son of (presumably) the late Lord Capulet and the younger brother of the current Lord Capulet. So he didn’t have a title, but he was noble. Similar to Benvolio, say. Not the heir, so less responsibilities but still a noble family member. His children, likewise, are noble ladies.

How does his death somehow invalidate their nobility??

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Count me in!! So, who is going to organize it? I don't know how to do this but I'll definitely be tweeting.

Things are not looking good for our show. Since we have no new episode this Monday due to that basketball game. I was wondering if we as part of the Still Star Crossed fandom could engage in strategy, show of support.. Do you think we could this Monday at 10pm when the show was to air, just tweet the network, Shonda,the show runners and show writers letting them know how much we love the show and miss not having a new episode. We tag them and also use #StillStarCrossed. We need to generate buzz

That’s a great idea! Getting active on Twitter and keeping the hashtag busy can only help.

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I love Rosvolio first kiss scene too. They might change a few things but… Oh boy!! Imagine the passion, the desperation, the relief and everything in between… Man, Still Star-Crossed is making me reconsider my decision to quit writing fanfiction. So many scenarios…

SLIGHT BOOK SPOILERS AHEAD

i just want to say, that if they go along with the book, rosolio’s first kiss will also be very very tropey and i can’t wait for it