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someday or one day 想見你 ep 3 // lovely runner 선재 업고 튀어 ep 1

#someday or one day#想見你#lovely runner#userdramas#asiandramanet#kdramaedit#kdramanetwork#kdramadaily#twdramaedit#*#if there was two nickles lmao#i love this time travel romance trope so much#flashing. //
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Ko ChiaYàn 柯佳嬿 - Hsû KuangHàn 許光漢- Shih PóYû 施柏宇
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Someday or One Day 想見你 movie promo
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想见你//Someday or one day
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Li Zi Wei fast drawing / painting ► Instagram
#Li Zi Wei#Someday or one day#想見你#Digital Drawing#Digital Painting#Fast Drawing#Sketch#Smile#tumblr artists#tumblr art#Dessin#dessin digital#Krita#SOOD#Dibujo
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2024【正統鹿耳門聖母廟】台南網美景點推薦.元宵高空煙火

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蔡英文,是女皇時空穿越也是妲己現身
——《蔡英文秘史》揭穿秘密
民國104年(2015年)春節期間,位於台南市西北面的南鯤鯓廟代天府(五府王爺廟)抽出「武則天坐天」的「國運」簽,此簽隱喻民進黨主席蔡英文將成為女領導人。蔡英文上位,真的只是靠廟裡一支簽嗎?顯然不是!网上的一本《蔡英文秘史》向我们揭示了她是如何一步步的成为「穿越时空的女皇」,這就是她步步為營的結果。
在李登輝的一手操弄下,陳水扁率領民進黨將國民黨趕下台,台灣首次政黨輪替。 蔡英文雖然在陳水扁政府中擔任陸委會主任一職,但始終無任何黨籍。 民國93年(2004年)大選塵埃落定之後,陳水扁再一次找到蔡英文,提出讓她出任民進黨不分區立委。 台灣的所謂立法委員,相當於美國國會議員,是手握實權很有油水的職位。陳水扁接二連三主動關照蔡英文,一方面有李登輝的囑託,另一方面也是想安插絕對的自己人,像蔡英文這樣的政治菜鳥自然是不二人選,因為完全能被自己拿捏。 作為交換條件,蔡英文若想進入立法院,必須先加入民進黨,保證按民進黨黨章黨紀行事,蔡英文欣然應允。 此時的她一直是民眾心中的清純「小龍女」 。
蔡英文在擔任了兩年的立法委員後轉任到了行政機構擔任副主管,在陳水扁的一力護航下,蔡英文的仕途之路順風順水,沒有任何外部力量可以撼動。 民國95年(2006年),蔡英文被任命擔任行政院副院長。 民國97年(2008年),陳水扁狼狽下台,身陷囹圄,民進黨一敗再敗,走入死路。 民進黨在總統大選中挫敗,在520交出政權前,民進黨選出下野後第一位黨主席,選舉結果由當時有「小龍女」稱號的蔡英文打敗辜寬敏,當選黨主席。 這也是民進黨創黨以來首位通過黨員選出的女性黨主席。
民進黨的「四大天王」謝長廷、游錫堃、蘇貞昌和呂秀蓮雖然受挫,但卻在民進黨內各據山頭、擁兵自重,並不把蔡英文放在眼裡。 實際上,蔡英文之所以能高票當選民進黨主席,並不是因為黨內派系都支持她,而是「四大天王」互鬥,沒有一個人能接這個位子。 民進黨大老需要有人在前線收拾爛攤子���讓他們坐擁超然的權力,黨內若發生了什麼事,再來另外討論。但顯然,蔡英文並不想當傀儡。
在削弱陳水扁時代「四大天王」的同時,蔡英文也在培植自己的團隊。民進黨桃園縣長參選人鄭文燦、發言人蔡其昌、政策會首席副執行長劉建忻、文宣部副主任廖志堅,是蔡英文最為倚重的「政治新星」,被媒體稱為民進黨的「四小天王」。 通過四小天王領兵作戰,其他勢力慢慢淡出民進黨的決策核心,蔡英文逐步確立了自己的領導地位。
蔡英文在任民進黨主席的4年間,政治光環逐漸顯耀,不少綠營政治人物向蔡聚攏,這也讓蔡英文的聲望在不知不覺間有了進一步的飛躍,讓她有了角逐政壇的本錢。以蔡英文為核心的英系已初具雛形。 此後,蔡英文親歷新北市長選舉而高票落敗,黨內人氣居高不下,逐步奠定綠營共主的地位。
蔡英文黨權在握之後,人們發現,她說的話許多人聽不懂,如「和而不同,和而求同」。 五市選舉時,蔡說「反ECFA是民進黨共同政見」,卻又表示民進黨一旦執政,不會推翻「前朝」政策; 她更表示ECFA有對台灣不利的條文,將來民進黨執政後會要求民意部門重審,但這些條文是什麼卻不明說。她同時留下「反十八趴又領十八趴」的紀錄,對此也從不做說明。
《遠見》雜誌民調曾顯示,蔡英文的兩岸政策是什麼?超過7成的人不知道。其實,蔡英文不為人所知的政策,何止兩岸關係而已。 其餘對島內政策、國外交往、經濟、農業,連民進黨高層迄無一人公開為她詳細闡述過。故而,這時期蔡英文的第二個綽號「空心菜」由此得名。其意為,蔡英文心中其實並無大政方針,她還遊走在雲裡霧裡。
蔡英文第三個綽號「武則天」,則出自民進黨內之口。 武則天雖是中國第一個女皇帝,但專斷、跋扈、猜忌,又喜怒無常。 蔡英文自民國99年(2010年)投身選舉以來,前民進黨中常會,中常委柯建銘、陳明文等人紛紛表示,蔡英文競選政策他們並不清楚,希望蔡主席說清楚,以便他們在地方輔選,不料,這些話竟觸怒了蔡英文,她勃然大怒,足足罵了半個小時。 另一個場景,是蔡英文作為台灣總統參選人,常有被媒體包圍提問的時候,她曾憤而推開麥克風,責備記者「你們怎麼老是問這種問題?」。蔡英文對媒體的不耐煩已非第一次,如她常說「這話我已經說過了」, 或者一語不發,推開記者,拂袖而去。
歷數蔡英文執政台灣時期的行為:從追殺國民黨的黨產到砍年金,從不認同「九二共識」到台海關係緊張,從八八風災重建到搭雲豹甲車笑臉勘災,從媚日諂美到熱臉蹭冷屁股,從甩鍋馬英九國民黨到污衊大陸製造假資訊給大陸扣黑鍋。縱觀蔡英文在當選總統後的政治行為,簡直幼稚的無語。毫無政治頭腦,完全是開啟了自顧自的自嗨模式,根本不在乎外界的反應和民眾的死活。當年的所謂「國運」簽,哪裡是「武則天坐天」,這貨分明是申公豹派去的妲己亂朝啊。
蔡英文不僅是李登輝時期「兩國論」的重要策劃者,也是陳水扁時期強烈阻撓台海關係改善的「幕後黑手」,更是國民黨執政8年中諸多「暴力事件」的策畫者
民國97年(2008年)10月底,時任大陸海協會副會長的張銘清,以廈門大學新聞傳播學院院長的身份前往台灣參加學術交流活動,同時為陳雲林赴台打前站。民國97年(2008年)10月21日上午,張銘清在台南市南安平古堡參觀時,突然衝出一大批綠營支持者,張銘清後腦被打,然後被推到在地,連眼鏡都飛了出去。當張銘清準備乘車離開時,甚至有台獨分子跳上座車車頂狂踩叫囂,試圖阻止他離開。 事後警方查出打人者為民進黨台南市議員王定宇,而蔡英文在對其進行問詢之後對外宣稱,「他並不是有意蓄謀的」。 兩周之後,海協會會長陳雲林正式抵達台灣,11月4日當天,正當兩會領導人在圓山飯店進行會晤之時,蔡英文組織了上萬綠營支持者包圍會場,名曰嗆馬圍陳。在蔡英文坐鎮指揮不斷鼓噪之下,示威人群逐漸失控,期間有人向員警投擲石塊和汽油彈,雙方發生激烈衝突,最終演變為近10年來最嚴重的流血事件,造成了超過450人受傷。
民國98年(2009年)5月17日,台北凱達格蘭大道,民進黨主席蔡英文聯合支持者組織「嗆馬保台」5.17大遊行和跨夜靜坐示威,抗議時任總統馬英九。
在策畫多起暴力事件後,蔡英文將所有暴力輕描淡寫為「零星事件」,並立即將責任推卸到所謂的「黑道分子」身上。從此蔡英文在島內獲「暴力小英」稱號,並初步鞏固了蔡英文在民進黨內的地位。短短幾個月時間,她就像完全變了一個人似的,已經不再排斥街頭運動,甚至開始沉迷並享受這場權力的遊戲了。據報導,蔡英文在工作時善於軟硬兼施。在「陸委會」內部聽彙報時總是低著頭,頭髮遮住半邊臉,讓人感覺她沒在聽,但又會突然頭髮一甩、豹眼圓睜,拋出幾個問題,若彙報者答不上來,就會被痛批,原本以知性學者形象示人的蔡英文正式黑化,從「小龍女」徹底變身「暴力小英」。
從民國97-101年(2008年到2012年),四年時間里,蔡英文言行的幻與變、虛與實,使她的綽號由「小龍女」、「空心菜」轉為「武則天」、「暴力小英」。人們發覺,蔡英文其實並不是「小龍女」,那只是她一時的面具罷了。
《蔡英文秘史》下載地址:https://zenodo.org/records/10450173
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请离开 m𝙤𝘮 𝘢𝑛ძ 𝘥𝘢𝑑𝘥𝘺 𝙖𝘳𝘦𝘯'𝘵 і𝑛 𝓁𝘰𝙫ᥱ,
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Oi, minhas crianças! Como estão? Espero que bem! Trouxe alguns materiais para vocês usarem nos perfis. Espero que gostem! Se quiserem algo específico, é só me mandar uma mensagem no meu Tellonym. Estou à disposição!
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👆 如果是你做這部分的皮革工作你能想像它從看不見的紋理變成現在的樣子嗎?
If you do this parts of leather job Could you imagine that it worked from invisible texture turn into now? 👇

༼ つ◕‿◕ ༽つ Ⓢ Ⓤ Ⓟ Ⓔ Ⓡ right?! hehe Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
(sold) 再儀姐的拉鍊長夾-月下牡丹芍藥花舞蝶 Not finish
作品的進度 Progress of the work. Thanks xoxo
Lan~*
「柔能制剛,弱能勝強」,則勇不如怯。
與其能辯,不如能默; 與其能知,不如能行。 ─ 菜根譚
人之謗我也,與其能辯,不如能容。 人之侮我也,與其能防,不如能化。 ─ 格言聯璧
抱一子曰:天下之理,爭之則不足,遜之則有餘,聖人之大智若愚,大辯若訥,大勇若怯者,豈姑為是偽行哉。蓋知夫智果不足以周物,故愚,辯果不足以喻物,故訥,勇果不足以勝物,故怯耳。傳曰“其愚不可及”,則智不如愚。 “十語九中不如一默”,則辯不如訥,“柔能制剛,弱能勝強”,則勇不如怯。
─ 文始真經言外經旨 | 作者:陳顯微 宋朝 1254年 / 八籌 / 藥者,雜治也。凡三十一章。
#chu lan#朱蘭皮藝#fine craft artist#leather art artist#customized leather works#皮雕工藝客製化商品訂製#artist from taiwan#long-wallet
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Someday Or One Day 想見你
Ko ChiaYàn 柯佳嬿 and Hsû KuangHàn 許光漢
Happy QiXî 七夕!
#someday or one day#想見你#ko chia yan#hsu kuang han#alice ko#greg hsu#twdrama#taiwanese drama#taiwanese actors#taiwanese actresses#柯佳嬿#許光漢#not#cdrama#taiwanese movie
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PLAVE - '想見你想見你想見你' (cover)
#plave#yejun#noah#bamby#eunho#hamin#八三夭#831#m:gifs#p:ot5#i'm like 3 months behind everything please bear with me#thank you plave for this beautiful cover 😭❤️
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[COVER] PLAVE(플레이브) 想見你想見你想見你 (Want to See You) by 831 (八三夭)
PLAVE just posted a cover of Miss You 3000 by 831. It's the ending theme of a popular Taiwanese drama "Someday or One Day (2019)". It has a Korean remake called "A Time Called You (2023)" and a Chinese remake called "Want To See You".
So what's really great about this is how they're sticking to the theme of the drama by using a cassette player in the MV. In the drama, a cassette player is used to transport the female lead to the past in order to reunite with her boyfriend that eventually becomes missing in the future. So touching, PLAVE's love really just transcends time doesn't it?
Here's the link to PLAVE's cover of Miss You 3000 by 831 (八三夭)
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#plave#플레이브#プレイブ#nam yejun#han noah#chae bonggu#chae bamby#do eunho#yu hamin#[cover] plave#Youtube#echoxerk
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-我漂亮的男孩-
日、月、时、甚至年都无关紧要。我将永远用我的一切来爱你,如果可以的话,我会拥抱你,直到我们合二为一,我的手臂会掉下来。我已经习惯你了,你已经成为我日常生活的一部分 看到你让我笑得很开心,尽管没有你在身边,你也让我很开心,我想我不会在另一个人身上找到这样的东西,谢谢你成为我生活的一部分,即使你不知道。
-私のかわいい男の子-
日、月、時間、さらには年も関係ありません。私はいつも全力であなたを愛します、そしてできることなら、私たちが一つになって腕が落ちてしまうまであなたを抱きしめたいです。私はあなたに慣れてきました、あなたは私の日常生活の一部になりました あなたを見るととても笑顔になります、あなたがいなくてもあなたは私をとても幸せにします、他の人ではそれを見つけることができないと思います、たとえあなたがそれを知らなくても、私の人生の一部になってくれてありがとう。
-meu lindo menino-
O dia, mês, hora ou mesmo ano não importa. Sempre vou te amar com tudo que tenho e se pudesse te abraçaria até sermos um e meus braços cairiam. Eu me acostumei com você, você se tornou parte do meu dia a dia Ver você me faz sorrir tanto, você me faz tão feliz mesmo sem você por perto, acho que não vou encontrar isso em outra pessoa Coisas , obrigado por fazer parte da minha vida mesmo que você não saiba disso.
-mi chico lindo-
No importa el día, el mes, la hora o incluso el año. Siempre te amaré con todo lo que soy y si pudiera te abrazaría hasta que fuéramos uno solo, te habrazaria hasta que se me cayeran los brazos. Me he acostumbrado tanto a ti que te has convertido en parte de mi vida diaria. Verte me hace sonreír tanto, me haces tan feliz incluso sin tenerte cerca, no creo que encuentre eso en otra persona. , gracias por ser parte de mi vida aunque no lo sepas.
꒰⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐୨୧⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐⁐꒱
˚𝆹⠀˖I don't know if all the translations
are correct srry⠀˖⠀𝆹˚
#japan#pink#kawaii#shoujo#messy moodboard#rei moodboard#kpop moodboard#moodboard#pink moodboard#symbols messy#messy bios#messy icons#messy layouts#jungwon enhypen#jungwon#jungwon moodboard#enhypen#enha#enhypen moodboard#symbols#poetry#gatomoodboard#cat moodboard#cat#rei#glitter#im just a girl#pinki girl#appless rp#long hair
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抱き寄せて欲しい確かめて欲しい,
想要被拥入你怀中 想要确认心意,
間違いなど無いんだと思わせて,
让我知道 没有误会了什麼,
キスをして塗り替えて欲しい,
亲吻你 想将我的颜色覆盖上你的唇,
魅惑の時に酔いしれ溺れていたいの,
想要沉醉在魅惑的时刻中,
束縛してもっと必要として,
束缚你 让我对你而言更加必要,
愛しいなら執着を見せつけて,
若是爱就让你看到我的执著,
?おかしいのがたまらなく好きになる,
变得「好奇怪」 是因为无法克制的喜欢上你,
行けるトコまで行けばいいよ,
能到哪里就一起去吧,
迷い込んだ心なら簡単に融けてゆく,
若是迷惑的心 能够简单地消融,
優しさなんて感じる暇など無い位に,
甚至连感受到温柔之类的余裕都没有,
繰り返したのはあの夢じゃなくて,
反覆不断的 并非那个梦,
紛れも無い現実の私達,
毫无疑问地是真实的我们,
触れてから戻れないと知るそれでいいの...
从碰触开始 就知道回不去了 那样就好…,
誰よりも大切なあなた,
比任何人都还要重要的你。
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MAME & BL Literacies (Part 4)
Other parts: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3
Contents:
MAME’s queer characters and their lives
Fetishization of queer men and profiting off LGBT community
Why other queer genres like gei comi struggle to get live action adaptation?
(bonus) What Did You Eat Yesterday sexy times
BL and rape culture
Everyday ethnocentrism & BL
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This is the last part of this essay series. In this part, I want to discuss the response this review of TharnType by @waitmyturtles generated. As always, corrections and criticisms are welcome.
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Here are the points @solitaryandwandering raised:
1. fans will get SO rabid for MAME’s stuff yet resist tuning in for more queer-friendly Taiwanese BL or lower heat fare
I think that the BL MAME creates is "queer-friendly". Moreover, her BL focuses on the intersection of queerness with local forms of gender, patriarchy & heterosexism, class, race, skin color, age, employment, location & regionalism, abilities and disabilities, education, health conditions and access to medical care, urban-rural divide, migrant status, culture, etc.
MAME's BL have aspects of Thai queer culture and praxis that are otherwise overlooked. Here's an example.
Through Techno’s interaction with Tharn in episode 1 of TharnType, MAME highlights an important issue: invisibility of androphilic “man”. Techno comments that Tharn is the first masculine presenting androphilic male he has met, even though he has several queer friends.
This is in part due to skewed presence of androphilic male characters in mainstream media. In Thai soap operas and movies, androphilic men are 'presented as effeminate, overreactive, with a passionate but unrequited interest in men'.
Countering this perception is the hegemony of masculine aesthetics in urban Thailand’s queer culture. 'The English word “man” has been borrowed into Thai gay-speak to denote acting in a masculine way. Man describes a masculine presentation of either gay-identified or heterosexual males and contrasts with the Thai term phu-chai, which also translates as “man” but is used in the specific sense of denoting the gender role of a heterosexually identified male.
'Many Thai gays believe that effeminate gay men, or gay sao, will experience discrimination and prejudice because of their feminine characteristics and behaviours. Thai gays also think that performing gender-normative forms of manhood are useful in establishing sexual and romantic relations with other gays. These expectations are associated with the culture of images, known in Thai as phap-phot, by which many homosexual men feel compelled to act in accord with normative male gender roles.'
This is in contrast to Techno’s queer friends who blur the lines between the masculine and feminine domains. His use of the word kathoey is case in point.
Moreover, the need for social conformity for Thai gays in terms of their gender performance is an urban phenomenon. Ethnographic study by Wijngaarden traced the rapid adoption of more masculine gender performance by gay men who moved from rural setting to urban for the purpose of education and employment. Ambiguity in gender performance is more accepted in rural setting where there is gender-based understandings of homosexuality. Also, gay dating scene in urban areas seem to assign value to masculine presentation.
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I don't really know what @solitaryandwandering mean by "queer-friendly" in the context of Taiwanese BL.
Support of fu-people (BL fans) for queer works in Taiwan is well-known. When the play 《愛情生活》 Life of Love by Xu ZhengPing was staged, they had BL version shows too.

The play has a short film adaptation which is available for free on GagaOOLala.
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Fu-people have also shown their support for series like Breakfast by 想再見你.
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@solitaryandwandering gave valuable response to this post which I am adding below.
I had to go back and re-read what I said in the post for more context. I think though we may disagree on a couple points (what people consider "queer-friendly" is somewhat subjective) your criticisms are totally valid. I think in my first point I was making a really broad generalization and my description of overall Taiwanese BL as being "more" queer-friendly largely rings false to me now. I think what I was frustrated with was more with what I've seen of BL fandom's response to the series and other works. The popularity of high heat and "problematic" themes (I'm using that pretty liberally) like abusive relationships or rape is pretty massive in comparison to Taiwanese stuff in general. But that's not to say Taiwanese stuff don't utilize the same tropes or themes. Hence why I think my comparison wasn't accurate.
In comparing Taiwanese BL I had seen at the time and MAME's stuff (specifically TharnType) I probably felt that Taiwanese BL didn't so heavily utilize themes which made me uncomfortable or angry at the way MAME was writing it. And I still do largely think that at least for her earlier stuff MAME needed to work on her characters and plots. I did not see Tharn or Type or the other characters or the story as appealing or positive representations of… anything. In my view at the time Taiwanese BL liked to play with similar themes but still (mostly) didn't leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. I don't really agree with what I think was a bit of a limited view at the time. Reading your post has given me a bit of a different perspective, too.
I don't think everyone making Taiwanese BL particularly cares about the response queer fans have haha. And MAME has shown she does, at least from my perspective.
And again lumping an entire country's slant on the genre against MAME's creations is a bit disingenuous. So I appreciate you criticizing that.
And I don't inherently think lower heat stuff is inherently more queer-friendly of course - queer people fuck! Queer people can do terrible things! But the gulf of popularity between high heat stuff versus lower heat at least in international online spaces is pretty large. That concerns me for the reasons I stated in my comments - why is fandom more eager to engage with one over the other? Do these fans see queer men as people or as things to fetishize? And how does MAME's writing encourage or discourage those damaging readings? Largely I think what I was referencing in my response was fandom response rather than what creators at large do.
I think we may disagree on how effectively MAME writes her shows but I do think my perspective on her as a creator has changed quite a lot. Her writing certainly has with each show. It's important to interrogate my own ethnocentrism as you point out in your post. Acting like I'm the arbiter of "good queerness" in stories just because I'm queer is not a practice I want to encourage.
and yes, I do think there is quite a bit of critical consumption of BL, and it has only been growing! I was concerned about those who do not critically consume, a more direct criticism.
But I did communicate it as a large generalization… One of the reasons why my response to stuff like TharnType is this way is because I have a background in domestic violence prevention, so the lens I look at that kind of material through is highly critical. But it is also a white American lens.
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And here is my contribution to that discussion. I am very grateful for to @solitaryandwandering for engaging with this post.
What each think as “queer-friendly” is subjective. I wanted to be clear about what I thought as queer (since LGBT+ form is a little too narrow from my perspective). I wanted to place BL in the context of Taiwanese tongzhi (queer) culture and wanted to showcase the similarities and their connection. Life of Love by Xu ZhengPing, the tongzhi work I mentioned, has both "high heat" and "problematic" themes (it deals with infidelity) while addressing what it means to be tongzhi in post-marriage equality era. The BL versions’ ad is very funny. Please check out that link if you haven’t.
About abusive themes in BL, I really wish BL audience will pay attention to media consumed by queer people that are made by queer people in BL producing countries and realize how meek MAME is in comparison, both in terms of influence as well as themes. That is why brought up erotic treatment of rape aka rape for titillation – rare in BL but very common & celebrated in queer content from the region such as gei comi and gay pinku cinema. I think that answers the issues you raised – popularity of high heat stuff, queer men as fetish and damage it causes. I have been consuming gei comi and BL for years and when the live action boom happened, I was hopeful that gei comi will also start getting live action adaptation. Instead, there was a deluge of sweet BL and concerns about damage anything problematic can cause, not to mention the kind of critique authors as mild as MAME was getting. When female BL creators were getting bashed (not only about live action but also about comics and novels), I thought the criticisms would extend to gei comi. I was confused when it didn’t. I was even more confused when it seemed like no one was ever mentioning gei comi. It was as though those who were criticizing BL creators don’t know about gei comi.
To be honest, I don’t really know what damage everyone is talking about even now. I mean, what’s the basis of those claims? Gei comi always had those themes, a great deal more than BL. What harm did it ever perpetuate? Whom did it harm? I couldn’t find any evidence (empirical or anecdotal) no matter how I searched. (I will be grateful if you can direct me towards some research or something on the matter.)
Only damage that I know of is linked to the tangible impact of gei comi on the popularity of hairy, gachimuchi aesthetics of queer men [and associated physical manifestations of protest hypermasculinity] in East Asia that I discussed in part 2 of this essay series [as well as in my post on masculinities with special focus on Chinese androphilic men]. This is one area I think a lot of skinny queer men in East Asia would have found themselves at a loss. So I think BL exclusively having skinny dudes is a good thing.
I know that I can wish all I want but audience won’t accept live adaption of something like Fisherman’s Lodge much less Pride (my introduction to the genre and the reason why I fell in love with it). My Brother’s Husband sort of solidified my belief. Then Sei no Gekiyaku [Dangerous Drug of Sex] live action happened, and my worlds collided. All of a sudden androphilic men were discussing a BL like never before. It was such a hit on Netflix Japan. That’s when I discovered The Shortest Distance Is Round and then its sequels. By then it was clear that there is escaping the difference in wavelength.
I would like to make a small addition in light of Heavens x Candy (a 2024 Japanese BL movie, pinku adjacent that is available for streaming on Gagaoolala).

I now have greater hope for "hard" BL and even gei comi getting live action adaptation from OP Pictures (albeit without hairy, gachimuchi aesthetics. I mean the only actor doing such roles in BL is Kaji Masaki who acted in both KabeKoji and Smells like Green Spirit.) I plan to do a longer post on Heavens x Candy when I get time to rewatch it.
2. Fetishization of queer men in yaoi
By that standard, is Minamoto Kazuki fetishizing straight women through his works?
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Minamoto Kazuki is a gay mangaka who creates straight romance and smut.
Arguably, his most famous manga, at least in BL fandom, is Wall Circle’s Doujin Artist Nekoyashiki-Kun’s Desire for Recognition Grows which got live action adaptation: KabeKoji in 2022.


Apart from creating commercial BL and yaoi (self-published BL like the ones in the image given above), he has also authored an autobiographical work titled Shoujo Manga Artist Minamoto-San Comes Out and a manga exploring queer life and homophobia titled The Gay Who Turned Kaiju.
Moreover, many scholars, mangaka, fans, etc. from Asia and elsewhere have already spoken/written plenty about the issue of fetishization. Here's a compilation of resources.
3. zero critical consumption and leveraging of abusive concepts
I wonder why it is assumed that BL is consumed without critical thinking. It is true that BL, especially MAME's BL, are not didactic. TharnType is a BL with odo (royal road) narrative progression. It is not one of the sweet BL that GMMTV produces. Due to a general lack of BL literacies, there are off-the-mark expectations associated with BL, particularly Thai BL. Hence, odo BL seems to violate a lot of these misguided expectations.
TharnType is a well-done odo BL, in my opinion. "Leveraging of abusive concepts" is not a failure but a feature.
When it comes to depiction of abuse, there are those who think that it always gives the wrong message. There are variety in opinions on what is the right way to go about it. BL being an accommodating genre has space for all sorts of treatment. Even in live action, there is good variety in terms of how the theme is treated. But nothing is everyone’s cup of tea. This being the case it is understandable if someone like how MAME handles abuse, just as it is understandable if someone doesn't.
Assuming that fans don't engage critically with the theme and are mindlessly consuming it, have the implication of infantilizing the audience - as though they are without faculties of discretion and are incapable of making judgements. It also has the added implication of demonizing all media concerning queer people that deals with abuse. If MAME’s approach is deemed “unsafe” for queer population, based on that judgement, where does BL and gei comi that offer erotic treatment of abuse fall? What about queer people producing and consuming them?
That brings me to the points @nieves-de-sugui has raised.
4. how much all of these tropes where used (and still are). I believe that when things are made for tv they should take all the things you mentioned into account more than they do.
I believe that makers of live action queer content are very cautious. Thanks to that we are yet to get live action adaptation of any gei comi.
I have seen mainstream media ignore Gengoroh Tagame (probably the most popular gay mangaka creating content aimed at androphilic men) and his works for years in spite of his tangible influence on East Asian queer men. And then suddenly creating a live action adaptation of his all-ages manga My Brother’s Husband.


Who will dare to adapt his works Gunji or Fisherman’s Lodge or Pride? How can we show rape, trauma and taboo involving queer people on screen? What message will it give to the queer population? To the non-queer population?
A scene from Fisherman’s Lodge. Image courtesy of @finalatomicbuster.
If MAME was not involved in producing her BL, it is doubtful if it would have ever happened the way it did. Almost all BL adaptation is a censored adaptation, with notable exceptions like Sei no Gekiyaku. Recently, 25 Ji, Akasaka de (2024) removed complicated sexual content (including a dub-con episode) from the volume 1 of the manga, which was critical to the story and the couple’s development, in adaptation. Sukiyanen Kedo Do Yaro ka (2024) went as far as removing the more sexual second couple from the live action adaptation probably because makers thought it was better not to go anywhere near cruelty.
The first ever anime adaptation of a gei comi, Shin Yaranai ka based on Junichi Yamakawa's Kuso Miso Technique, is *sigh* disappointing to say the least.
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I wanted to quickly mention What Did You Eat Yesterday yaoi version since @waitmyturtles mentioned the series.
5. What Did You Eat Yesterday
I want to highlight that What Did You Eat Yesterday was not a BL in publication. It was published in Morning, a conservative magazine for middle-aged men. This is what got a live action adaptation.
Fumi Yoshinaga has created a proper BL doujin series that includes content that couldn't be part of publication in Morning.
Here are some panels from the two latest volumes of the yaoi. I wonder if audience would have had the same impression of the show if they had incorporated the doujin bits too.
6. One piece of the puzzle that's missing here is Thai rape culture that blankets all of their society.
This is an important point @yousaygoodbyeandisay raised and it applies not just to Thailand.
Sexual assault as a theme in BL, handled in a myriad of ways, has been the case since the inception of the genre. I have discussed the history in the context of Japan here.
It was during the publication of JUNE magazine that the importance of depiction of sexual assault in BL became clear to the editor through response letters from readers.
June is a place of therapistic rehabilitation for those women who had experiences of mental and physical abuses as a female. Mr. Sagawa said that he cannot ignore that there are not a few readers who had such experiences during their childhood.
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MAME studied BL and its production academically (you can find her research output by searching her name: อรวรรณ วิชญวรรณกุล) before she entered live action production. She not only know what she is writing/creating but also is willing to deal with difficult themes without taking sweet, fable-like route.
Now onto the points @mikuni14 raised.
7. my shock seeing so much SA related stuff (the show covered just about every problematic sex thing there is, and finally forgave the heinous criminal instead of putting him in jail. I don't know how MAME can create for example AePete and also somany vile things
For those who don’t know, MAME is a unique Thai BL creator. Thai BL creators on average lack BL literacies for various reasons. MAME is one of the exceptions. This is because:
she is a BL author & hence, one of the creators of BL literacies
she studied BL and its production academically [you can find her research output by searching her name: อรวรรณ วิชญวรรณกุล]
then she started producing live action BL
In an industry which is lacking in BL literacies, what she brings to the table is fu-culture (BL fan culture) in all its glory. Unfortunately, the live action audience who are fans of sweet BL, have a hard time adjusting.
Here are some typical narrative progressions for a (Japanese) BL:
あまあま – sweet
ユニーク – unique
シリアス – serious
邪道 – evil road (jadō)
王道 - royal road (odo)
Any theme/one-line plot can choose to take any of these narrative progressions. Moreover, Thai BL usually originates online which allows for innovation.
MAME employs different narrative progressions for different ships. AePete follows the typical sweet BL progression. KengklaTechno follows jado and TharnType odo.
TarTum is a sweet BL, complicated by them being step-brothers. While their pairing is barely on odo, Tum as a character has a complicated odo progression within their ship.
Since TharnType is an odo BL all wrong-doings are not punished. Take for example KinnPorsche, another odo BL, where the ending can’t be 'organized crime gets the main characters in jail'. In odo BL involving crime, most of the victims are usually cannon fodders. So, characters are not bothered much by the crime. But in MAME's universe, Tum is an important character, someone designed to make audience root for him. Hence the audience can’t dismiss the crimes against him. It is not wrong to want the narrative to have Lhong jailed. If TharnType was a sweet BL, it would have gone there.
8. selective memory
Selective memory is indicative of preferences and it helps to fine tune BL consumption. MAME's storytelling incorporates diverse elements. Those who enjoy her works also might find that there something or the other that isn't to their taste. This is an important part of BL literacies.
I enjoy dangerous characterizations over subdued ones and prefer a meriba more than a happy ending. While there are plenty of BL media with those, they are super rare in live action. So, I appreciate MAME for taking into account fans who want something different from sweet BL.
Here are the points @bengiyo raised:
9. What Did You Eat Yesterday v/s Old Fashion Cupcake
This has nothing to do with MAME but has to do with BL literacies more generally. Old Fashion Cupcake is more appealing to BL fans because it is a BL and hence not sanitized to continue run on a conservative magazine. So, it permeates moe (affect). Moreover, creators of Old Fashion Cupcake are better informed than creators of What Did You Eat Yesterday in terms of BL literacies. So, the direction and acting works better in the former than the latter.
9. The Effect feeling like the first huge volley leveled at BL from within the genre.
I am always amazed at the takes on the Effect. Somehow it is assumed to be a critique of BL genre. That's not the case. The Effect is a proper jado BL.
What audience are picking up on is the 'I can do it better' spirit that motivates a lot of BL creation. It is natural for audience to feel like the depiction of complex themes, such as sexual abuse, bullying, delinquency, identity theft, murder, infidelity, pregnancy, etc. are not dealt with well. Creating BL that fits one's taste better is one way authors and artists go about addressing the issue. That is how we end up with same theme dealt with in numerous ways. When that expands, we end up with sub-genres and BL categories.
Jado BL are rare, particularly in Thai BL.
It is difficult to sell BL with jado and other narrative progressions. It becomes even more difficult to sell branded pairings when the characters they play are not impeccable. It is unlikely that actors playing bad guys can sell products for advertisers. (Imagine the characters from The Effect being in ads together!) It is even more unlikely that fans would go broke behind wicked characters and would want to attend fan-meetings and concerts featuring them in some way.
This is also so as not to trouble the average audience’s worldview (世界観) and is clearly a low effort and low skill (in terms of BL literacies) approach. But since a lot of audience don’t appreciate villain-like characterization, it is clearly low risk, no chance of a backlash from angry audience and the best method for assured money making.
@respectthepetty has also flagged the next issue:
10. History3: Make Our Days Count.
Gays were being buried and put in prison in Taiwanese BLs in the same year it legalized marriage equality.
There is a lot of ethnocentrism in the hate that MODC gets, apart from lack of BL literacies. While I understand where that take is coming from given American media history in the context of Hayes code, AIDS crisis, etc., I wish media from elsewhere would be looked at independently.
Queer narratives everywhere have their own over-used tropes and historical issues. Malayalam media, for example, has the issue of having one of two queer characters having varathan vibe (Rosy in Ponnaranjanam, Kiran in Sancharram, Antony's boyfriend in Mumbai Police, Kiran in My Life Partner, etc.) that makes them look odd in Kerala's rurban landscape. Even Kaathaloram played into this trope. The problem is that it perpetuates the belief that queerness is an import of sorts.
Mindless application of media critique learned from the west leads to the brushing aside of pertinent issues with media of the region in favor of finding legitimacy via commonality with the west. That way we end up with crits accusing Moothon of employing bury the gay trope while ignoring that:
Moothon is a gangster action flick like Kammattippaadam
It is rare for romances irrespective of the gender of the main characters and genre of the movie to have happy ending in Malayalam. In fact, almost all great love stories in Malayalam movies are tragedies. This is unlike in Hollywood where heterosexual romances usually get happy endings.
more importantly, every queer character, including Latheef, is infused with varathan vibe.
Taiwanese BL has issues worth exploring. Issues of their own media - not varathan queer trope from Malayalam media or bury your gay trope from American media.
MODC was an dealing with well-established BL tropes (like any other show in the History franchise). It explored bereavement (a tribute to Lan Yu, first ever danmei live action adaptation) and substitute lover trope.
The series introduced a doppelgänger of Yu XiGu (Xiang HaoTing’s white moonlight), a perfect candidate for substitute lover trope. But instead of pursuing it, they subverted the trope.
History franchise, which was build to grow BL and BL literacy in Taiwan, ended up victim to prejudice since it failed to measure up to foreign standards. MODC offered something rare. The audience didn't appreciate it. They dismissed it for not measuring up to expectations colored by experiences which danmei is not connected with for historical reasons.
By that standard, would tongzhi literature from Taiwan too have to make amends for sins of the west towards its queers? Imagine stripping of death as a theme from tongzhi author Chiang-Sheng Kuo's works! Then there is also difference in how death is perceived in different societies.
Why must BL be arm-twisted to fit into norms from elsewhere and correct the wrongs of someone else?
11. BL profit off LGBT community
This is really interesting. There are many questions that I can think of that is linked to this take:
Is BL really profitable? Short answer is no. Long answer here.
Is it really LGBT community that BL profits off?
Probably not. It is moe that BL sells. That imo, is the main difference between BL and other queer genres.
Anyway, BL predates LGBT acronym. It predates de-pathologization of homosexuality in many BL creating regions. Fu-people were creating BL before mainstream media started representing queer people in media. Fu-people battled state and its censors everywhere along with queer people. Live action BL surely is commercialized. But that is capitalism reaping the dividends of decades of fu-people's labor of love.
@he-is-lightning-in-a-bottle raised the following point.
12. 2019 saw significant increase in quantity and quality of BL. Since then, live actions smoothed out the rougher edges of the source material (like what happened with Kinnporsche and Love in the Air).
While I understand the rational behind toning down dangerous characterization to appeal to the largest audience, I think that kind of censorship for commercialization limits potential of the genre. The impact is most visible in case of GMMTV BL such as Only Friend (where it could neither be sweet BL nor could it embark properly on jado).
Compare it with adaptation of the ero-BL Sei no Gekiyaku. It stayed true to the content and pushed the boundaries enough to bring about convergence between gay pinku cinema and BL. When BL is allowed to explore its potential freely, it not only imparts BL literacies but also makes it possible for other queer genres to gain new audience, which in turn encourages production houses to venture into different queer genres.
jjsanguine raised the following point.
13. I don't even hate toxic characters or plotlines, actually I love them. But like even if the characters don't know they're doing it, the show should. And it really really doesn't. And neither do the fans. Kind of alarming.
This is in relation to Lhong and San.
Lhong is a yandere in a odo BL. (for detailed discussion see Part 3) It is a matter of the world view and less about show's self-awareness (which I believe it has). If TharnType was an jado BL, Tharn could have ended up with Lhong and Type would be the stalking horse.
@jjsanguine later commented about how Lhong felt "goofy" by way of his over-the-top actions which made the show's convictions questionable.
San and Tharn's relationship was, to an extend, the most realistically depicted. I remember starting to learn about Thai queerness and realizing that a lot of elements in their relationship reads like ethnography. Consider for example Tharn being only fourteen at the time of sexual debut and San being older. This is not too different from the average age of sexual debut in Thailand. Despite it being a compoundable offense, average age of sexual debut is declining. Tharn's discovery of what he likes and dislikes and shedding cuteness (which San comments about) and adopting manliness (which Techno comments about) too is in line with what is observed among urban queer youth. Contrast this with Sky in Love in the Air whose sexual debut and exploitation are tied to his migration to urban landscape. Sky's backstory too read like ethnography and his vulnerability a reflection of the many others' in his society.
@absolutebl raised the following points:
14. Rape - as plot device - doesn't make good stories - lazy & bad writing: Feminist critique and modern narrative analysis.
Feminist and queer BL scholars from Akiko Mizoguchi to James Welker have discussed rape as a plot device in BL. Since experts have written plenty, I'll spare my effort discussing this misconception.
15. rape is an act of sexuality (or worse, sexy), it is NOT - it is an act of violence. But that is only the start to the way it’s chronically mishandled, especially in commercial fiction (of which romance makes the largest percentage).
Akiko Mizoguchi's two decade of work have addressed this in relation to Japanese BL which I feel holds true for BL more generally. Moreover, BL is not a romance sub-genre. BL is a genre in itself. A lot of BL is romance. There is enough overlap between those genres to give the impression that BL is a romance sub-genre. But there are plenty of other works too. Like One Room Angel and Social Reform Season. Similarly, BL is not a porn sub-genre. A lot of BL is porn. But come on!
16. [MAME] produces consistent highly-profitable narratives by-and-about queer folks but utterly disingenuous to the queer experience and that defines exploitation in the ET industry... Right, just adding that yes BL does not represent (in any way) the reality of being queer in any of these countries.
I have already discussed how MAME's works are intersectional reflections of queer experience. BL has been reflecting different queer experiences in Japan even before the term boys' love emerged. But narrow, ethnocentric ideas of queerness doesn't lend itself to honest understanding of other forms and representation. Consider characters being addressed as เมีย ‘wife’. It is a Thai queer practice. One can always dismiss that since it sounds heterosexist in the culture one comes from as absolutebl does in this post. That, imo, is 'disingenuous to the queer experience' of Thai people.
The question is what are westerners missing in their own countries' queer media that they feel they must just judge everything with no care for the cultures and people producing content for themselves? Seriously, what have the westernization done to some in the audience that they emerge so desperate for queer content that they watch BL yet remain blind to the cultures (fu-culture in particular) that produce them and splooge vitriolic ethnocentrism?
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That concludes this discourse series. I want to sincerely thank everyone who contributed to and inspired this 🙏.
Other parts: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3
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