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#And Aegon is both of them
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Aegon II Targaryen - The Last Dragonlord
Mother / Maia Baia, House of the Dragon, Fire & Blood / George R.R. Martin, A Storm of Sword / George R.R. Martin, Bhagavad Gita / Vyasa, Sister Sable / T. Mountebank
The Coronation of Aegon II by Basitien Lecouffe DeHarme The Depiction of A Pheonix by Friedrich Justin Bertuch Ouroboros by zarathus Battle of Rook's Rest by iasve Baela Targaryen and Moondancer by Dough Wheatley
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everyone's joking about a lesbian love triangle being the focus of rhaenyra/alicent/mysaria's stories in hotd s3 but that will literally be what happens when mysaria acts to uphold and support the image of rhaenyra as queen (or rhaenyra's duty) and alicent is kept prisoner (or a hidden but unavoidable reminder of rhaenyra's love). and so the love triangle will serve to represent rhaenyra's internal conflict between love and duty
#and if you are me and subscribe to the theory that alicent will escape to dragonstone with rhaenyra after the riots in KL#then rhaenyra chooses alicent/love#i think the book page foreshadows this attempt at escape#“traveling across the narrow to flee a war of dragons”#alicent going to dragonstone with rhaenyra would also totally recontextualize rhaenyra selling her crown to pay for passage#rhaenyra abandons this ultimate symbol of her duty for a final chance at happiness with alicent#and then there's the horrible irony of the audience already knowing that aegon ii has taken dragonstone as they sail toward the island#knowing that rhaenyra and alicent could never actually be physically liberated from the system of patriarchal violence they exist in#but by that point they have both mentally liberated themselves from it#rhaenyra selling her crown and alicent finally accepting rhaenyra's offer to run away and totally abandoning duty#and so the love was important and valuable in the sense that they both die understanding that they couldn't change the part they played#but they know now that they had this love that sustained them despite the plotting and scheming and violence#and the love will be forgotten by history but not by them and in that their love will finally be free#crazy actually that they decided to do this shit with a game of thrones prequel#hotd#alicent hightower#hotd spoilers#rhaenicent#rhaenyra targaryen#house of the dragon#also they are having gay sex on the boat to dragonstone i saw it in a vision
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tessarionbestgirl · 1 month
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I think about this sometimes. What could have been their dinamic.
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ellewod · 2 months
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aegon ii targaryen & jacaerys velaryon
— what would you have me do, mother?
— my ruler is my mother. i do not wish it otherwise.
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hotdaemondtargaryen · 2 months
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WHICH CHARACTER DO YOU RELATE TO THE MOST?
'i wanna say helaena, i wanna say aegon.'
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fearthhereaper · 2 months
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The thing is that, yes, Aegon is not as competent as Aemond but he knew that. He was willing and eager to hear his council out, all he wanted in return was for them to hear him out as well. Sure, he's as impulsive as Aemond but he genuinely wanted to listen to what they have to say so he could make good decisions. Aemond, on the other hand, while very competent, doesn't care for anyone's opinion. He makes his own decisions and expects them to just sit and nod their head. Aegon turned to Alicent and wanted her opinion and support, Aemond cuts her off in the middle of the sentence and dismisses her completely. He is openly disrespectful towards all members of the council and unwilling to even consider a plan that is not his own.
Aegon knew and tried to make up for his shortcomings. Aemond is unaware of his.
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navree · 4 months
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"rhaenys could have ended the war by dracarysing all the greens right there" yes because a distant relation to the throne deciding to barbecue an anointed and publicly positively hailed king and his entire family who is well loved within the city and in multiple other parts of the country for the sake of the succession of a far-away princess no one was ever on board with who hasn't been seen by the populace in literal years, her psycho husband, her three obvious bastards, and two toddlers from the psycho husband would go over super well with westeros and especially in king's landing where scores of the still-cheering population were killed for no reason by that same dragon who would do the barbecuing, because when targaryens act unilaterally without thinking of how the people would react there's never any problem, which is why the storming of the dragonpit and robert's rebellion were actually just collective delusions dreamed up by readers who hate rhaenyra and not key parts of the story and house targaryen's history that directly contributed to their demise and are intrinsic to the plot
truly team black stans are made up of only the most genius and media literate amongst us
#personal#house of the dragon#anti team black#i mean i guess??#like the crowd was cheering for aegon HARD#and they were always on board with aegon#and the hightowers are a powerful house with a lot of allies#and alicent and helaena specifically were well loved by the people in king's landing and the realm at large#and none of them ever liked rhaenyra or daemon who again have been MIA for basically a decade already#and again targaryens overreaching their power and not taking the people into account#is the reason why their house fell into oblivion and now rests entirely on a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL WHO IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT#if she roasted the dais the mob wouldn't have even let her leave they'd have killed her and meleys both in a heartbeat#storming of the dragonpit but a couple months earlier#the thing to remember is that i think a lot of team black stans are just kinda stupid#and do not care about the story at all or the actual intricacies of the world and its politics that is so important to the dance#(remember the rumors of rhaenyra mistreating helaena and alicent literally led to rhaenyra's death)#(because it led to the mobs and the storming of the dragonpit and the death of joffrey and her being driven out)#(and thus having to go to dragonstone where sunfyre got a little meal out of the whole debacle good for him)#(along with all of her ten million other shitty political decisions)#how do you profess to be pro-targaryen without even knowing targaryen history and where they erred and how that ended them#like *i* like the targaryens you guys have heard me talk about the conquerors all the livelong day#but i am also smart and i understand the world george created and the concept of repercussions#anyway yeah i am Annoyed at that new daemon clip (wow what a shock something annoyed me and had daemon in it)#(my least favorite character who could have foreseen this)
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daeneryseastar · 5 months
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i’m being so serious rn i’m going to need tg to stop glomping onto half of rhaenyra’s kids 🫨
jace would NEVER abandon his family to back aegon’s claim (‘wah wah wah he HATES his mother bc she *made* him a bastard-’ one, jace does not care enough about that to abandon his mother [to whom he is literally the miniature version of] and two, his entire personality is his love for his family. he literally dies trying to save aegon and viserys *after* his mom told him not to go fuck OFF).
rhaena would also *never* abandon her family to back aegon’s claim (apparently she’ll feel sorry about blood & cheese and want to make amends with them. i don’t think so, i think she’d be more upset that her betrothed was ruthlessly slaughtered despite his status as a peace envoy but whatever).
baela is one of rhaenyra’s staunchest supporters (‘the greens reach to usurp our queen’s throne and they must be answer with fire and blood.’ i DO NOT care that it didn’t make it into the show that is canon!baela) and does *not* want driftmark (which only corlys has a say in, and he chose bAsTaRdS over her and rhaena at every single turn don’t even mention it), so stop trying to conflate your hatred of rhaenyra onto her daughter.
aegon iii would never have been happy married to jaehaera and vice versa. these were two heavily traumatized children. jaehaera would have to deal with being married to the son of the man who had her brother executed (not to mention that she already had severe physical and mental health issues that were not being treated and the people around her [aegon ii before he died and alicent after] were actively making her life worse). aegon would have to deal with being married to the daughter of the man who had his dragon burn and eat his mother alive while he watched. which he never ended up letting go of (even with a wife who we know he obviously loved dearly) he wore black for the rest of his life and was stated to be the most solemn king due to what he experienced during the dance. there was no saving them.
leave. them. alone.
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runningmunson · 5 months
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Tom and Phia now having matching ones… I can’t
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banefort · 3 months
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died 131 AC, born 1984(?). welcome back aegon ii targaryen
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it’s honestly very frustrating to try and see people paint alicent as some sort of karen and rhaenyra as some sort of feminist icon. newsflash: none of the women in this show are feminists. AND THAT IS OKAY!! we’re looking at a story that predates those sort of progressive ideals and it’s not fair to hold either character to such a modern standard.
rhaenyra is out for herself and for her own claim, she’s not fighting for the right of all women to sit the iron throne. this is pretty clearly spelled out for us when she tells rhaenys that baela and jacerys’ sons will inherit the iron throne. but this isn’t a criticism of rhaenyra, she’s a woman living in an incredibly oppressive time, and while it could make for a great story, it should not be her responsibility to fight for the hypothetical claims of other women. as the the legitimate heir to the throne, her only concern should be fighting to take back her crown from the usurper.
as for alicent, she can really only cling to two things: duty/honor and trying to protect her children. her whole life has been nothing but miserable. losing her mother, being pawned off to viserys by her own father, being forced to have four children while she was still a child herself. and in the aftermath of all this, she’s lost her best friend and one true love. so of course she’s bitter and resentful, and of course she’s so preoccupied with duty. all she’s done since she was 14 years old is give and give, and it’s been rotten, thankless work.
it’s pretty easy to understand why both of these women are the way they are, and to acknowledge their deep complexity. sometimes it feels like people are being willfully obtuse in order to stay loyal to their respective “teams”, and I know it’s not that deep and the end of the day, but it’s still very frustrating.
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lonelyvampx · 1 month
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"Fabien's like a labrador he gets very excited over things and that's why he's just the most lovable individual in the world, I could put him in pocket and carry him around"
- Tom Glynn Carney about Fabien Frankel 💖
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darling-winnie · 5 months
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Aegon was honestly just trying to help at first. He knew how possessive Aemond felt about Lucerys but knew he wouldn't act on his feeling in fear of disappointing their mother so Aegon "helped".
It started with lingering looks and small talk that progressed into lingering touches and flirting. Aegon wanted to push his brother into action but didn't anticipate Lucerys.
His half-sisters sweet boy that leaned into his touches, who blushed a beautiful shade of pink at his filthy words while letting his gaze linger on the others lips.
Aegon was really only trying to help Aemond.
But now.
Now Aegon wanted to taste their nephew's pouty lips and see how far down Lucerys pretty pink blush went. He wanted to see Lucerys underneath him, needed to hear his desperate moans for more. Aegon craved Lucerys the same way Aemond did.
Aegon was no longer trying to help Aemond.
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persephryne · 1 month
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Stannis Baratheon and Aemond Targaryen whenever they experience the slightest inconvenience
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HOUSE OF THE DRAGON S1E9 - 'The Green Council' S1E10 - 'The Black Queen' S2E8 - 'The Queen Who Ever Was'
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greenqueenhightower · 2 months
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Touch Has A Memory: Alicent x Aegon Ending Scene in 2x05 Analysis:
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Alicent and her boy Aegon are so intertwined in life. The root and the fruit of her troubles, he was born a carrier of Alicent's trauma and flaws. He has been broken and so has she. He is now burned by dragonfire, lying on his father’s bed, the same bed that bore his illness and took his life. Alicent is holding his hand. She is perhaps thinking of everything she ever said to him. Will he be able to see her again? To speak? To walk? To rule?
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She looks upon Aegon's face as he sleeps. It no longer resembles the face of her son but her dead husband's monstrous face. She hesitates to touch it. She reaches for the side that still reminds her of the soft skin he once had as a baby. Her fingers rest upon his cheek softly, offering a comforting caress. Alicent doesn’t bear to see him like this for long. And yet, this gentle touch, this motherly affection, is enough to revive him. Will she ever know it’s all been for her sake, all he ever was, all he ever did?
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Alicent exits the King's chamber, her devastation and heartbreak still showing under her mask of empowerment. That's who Alicent is. Vying for the regent position provided a necessary distraction and an escape. How would Aegon’s permanent maiming add to her tally of “sins”? She does not want to dwell on how her words compelled him to seek his own glory and burn for it.
Alicent isn't the average Westerosi type of mother. Even if she feels it deeply, she cannot have an emotionally exposing moment with Aegon. She can't bring herself to cry beside his body but she will put her own body as a shield in front of his if need be. She will try to safeguard his position by seeking power for herself. She will distance herself from weakness and disempowerment as an antidote to how Aegon’s weakened and debilitating state makes her feel. She will bury all her pain, sorrow, and agony under her own ambitions. She will not live up to the ideal standard of motherhood, even in her grief for what befell her son.
It's the second time Alicent is called to play the part of a nurse, but the power imbalance is against her. When she faithfully nursed Viserys, she relished in the potential his absence gave her in heading the small council. Aegon's predicament does not allow her that level of control.
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Aegon has proven how deeply attached he is to Alicent. He calls her "mother" fondly, almost self-soothingly. When he called her "mother" in front of the small council in 2x01, he did not mean to undermine her. Aegon sees the word as an endearment and wants to draw closer to Alicent, even if he doesn't know how. He wants her to be proud of him. The term is often infuriating for Alicent, as her stare at 2x01 reveals. Alicent hasn't yet reconciled herself to the idea that she is his mother nor has she accepted that she has been unable to deviate from this word being her only definition. Especially in front of the council, Aegon's address of "mother" is a painful reminder of a title she didn't choose herself, and can't easily be proud of. In her mind, motherhood began when she got raped and birthed unwanted children. Subconsciously, even unwittingly, Alicent resents the term and with it, she resents Aegon who desires intimacy by using it.
But for Aegon, Alicent is and will always be his "mummy." The first person to offer him comfort, to stay up at night beside his bed when he was sick, the person he sought after being hurt or lonely. It is deeply tragic and devastating, therefore, that Alicent misses her son's tender call for her. She exits the room just seconds before she discovers just how deeply her son loves her and the effect that her own love and care, no matter how faulty, has on him.
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Her touch on Aegon's cheek has a memory. For Alicent, it probably brings memories of Viserys, or her son when he was younger. For Aegon, the first emotional comfort, touching and being touched by his mother, remains the ultimate memory of selfless love, which stays with him life long, and is so powerful that he wakes up from his coma seeking her tender touch, this intoxicating drug, again.
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