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indignantlemur · 1 year ago
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Hi! I saw all your headcanon stuff on Andorians and since I have a mass of files around the Aenar, I wondered if you knew anything about Andorii? Is there a conlang out there already that you know of? I made one after lazily looking at the barebones wiki- but it is based on the Aenar Conlang I made :)) if you'd like the notes? if Andorii already exists please lmk! Also, love the headcanon ideas- they're amazing!!
Hello! I've been enjoying reading through some of your Aenar headcanons and lore!
With the bare bones of what's available in canon, and even the dubious canon, we know that Andorii consists of extended vowels and a mix of hard and soft consonants. Double vowels - aa, ii, ee, oo - are often either followed or preceded by hard consonants, though rarely both. I've also noted that, rather like Norwegian, they have emphasis on the first and third syllables more often than not, but they occasionally switch that up. The Andorian opera featured in Discovery, for example, while not actually meant to have proper words or a translation, follows these rule at least somewhat, but seems to change where the emphasis on syllables lies. I've been implementing bits and pieces of all of this into Emigre and my headcanons.
The closest I've been able to find to an actual conlang is from a defunct site which records an a priori conlang constructed by Spence Hill back in the 1990s. For the most part, I've spent as much time referencing that as I have inventing words and terminology myself, and I've been keeping the conjugations and tenses very simple for ease of use. I don't rely entirely on Mr. Hill's work, and I draw from multiple sources, but I will say his is the backbone of my own work.
Here's the Grammatical sketch of the Andorian language by Spence Hill and the dictionary he created for your own uses, if you like. The dictionary is not as extensive and comprehensive as I would like, personally, but it gives a solid foundation for creating compound words as needed and the overview of grammar is quite comprehensive. He also has a written script, thought it does not particularly resemble canon Andorii as seen in ENT, or depictions of Graalen found in some of the RPG sourcebooks. I also have a list of words and terms I've created, but some of them are a wee bit spoilery for Emigre.
At some point, I would like to sit down and actually make a dedicated conlang of my own for Andorians, but I'm not fully confident in my ability to do so properly without further education and research.
I'd love to chat sometime about our headcanons, if you ever feel like it! <3
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indignantlemur · 11 months ago
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Alright, it appears I've been summoned! I've actually answered something kinda like this before, so I'm gonna rehash it a little. Some context for the folks who don't know me: I write about Andorians. A lot. I take the fragmented, sloppy lore and do my best to make it make sense from a narrative and scientific perspective, while creating the largely absent culture from scratch and inventing everything from food to traditions, religion, fashion, body language, biology, political and social structures, wildlife, etc.
Since this question is for generic information, I'll be keeping my writing specific info/headcanons out of it.
With the bare bones of what's available in canon, and even the dubious canon, we know that Andorii largely consists of extended vowels and a mix of hard and soft consonants. Double vowels - aa, ii, ee, oo - are quite comment, which I've generally interpreted as an elongated vowel sound in each case, rather than a double vowel with a glottal stop in the middle, which would be indicated with a break in the form of an apostrophe, as with Va'Al Trask's name (SNW: Under the Cloak of War). Soft consonants are often paired with soft or hard consonants in the same word, often framing the vowel sounds, but I don't think I've seen as many cases of hard vowels being paired together. Then again, we hardly have a complete lexicon to be working with.
I've also noted that, rather like Norwegian, there seems to be an emphasis on the first and third syllables more often than not, but that's not set in stone and may just be down to my own biases. The Andorian opera featured in Discovery, for example, while not actually meant to have proper words or a translation (which is just so lazy), follows these rules for the most part, but it's not a perfect match by any means.
The closest I've been able to find to an actual conlang is from a defunct site which records an a priori conlang constructed by Spence Hill back in the 1990s. He did amazing work, and I really can't recommend reviewing it enough.
Here's the Grammatical sketch of the Andorian language by Spence Hill and the dictionary he created.
The dictionary is not as extensive and comprehensive as I would like, personally, but it gives a solid foundation for creating compound words as needed and the overview of grammar is quite comprehensive. He also created his own version of a written script, thought it does not particularly resemble canon Andorii as seen in ENT, or depictions of Graalen found in some of the RPG sourcebooks. Graalen seems to involve simpler, distinct symbols rather than an interconnected flow ending in a flourish that Andorii features. I've always wondered if Graalen is a more primitive form of writing, or a kind of short-hand - but, of course, we'll never know at this rate.
Hopefully, this is helpful!
Hi Star Trek fans and nerds! Do we know what the Andorian language sounds like? Do you have a headcanon for it? I would love to know all of your opinions and ideas!
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startrek-eridani · 1 month ago
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Name signification of the Star Trek Eridani crew, P.2
Commander Kyral Ry'Anauk: Andorian names uses gendered prefixes to indicate from which of the four genders they are from, and these prefixes are placed between the first name and the clan name. As he has left Andoria after his particularly dishonouring Ushaan duel, Kyral dropped the practice of using that prefix before his clan name, Ry'Anauk, as a way to facilitate his integration into Starfleet. His full name is Kyral Th'Ry'Anauk.
The name Kyral comes from the Andorii words Kyrare and Lahlath, meaning respectively "The Call" and "The Snowy Peak". As such, his first name means "The call of the snowy peak". It's a name symbolising the bravery of honouring one's engagement, namely in difficult military campaigns
Marithyk Ry'Anauk: Just like his brother, Marithyk dropped the prefix indicator from his name, as he was mostly interacting with non-Andorians from the age of ten up until his adulthood. His full name is Marithyk Ch'Ry'Anauk.
The name Marithyk comes from the words Maarath, designating the edible, highly sought-after blooming cone of a hardwood tree, and Eketha, the name of said tree. This name symbolizes a blessing as well as strength, and was chosen as the birth of their second son was long awaited by the family after a difficult pregnancy for Marithyk and Kyral's mother.
Their last name, or family name, Ry'Anauk, means "Guardians of the honoured crown", and places their family among the oldest ones serving in the Imperial Guard.
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dutchesscapybara · 2 years ago
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This is my version of an Andorian female in the Andorian Imperial Guard. There's not a whole lot of reference images for Andorian females but I noticed that Andorians typically have very layered haircuts with short almost micro bangs. They also have triangular eyebrows and pronounced facial bones above their eyes that lead to their antenna.
Some Andorians have more pronounced facial and body plates that are a result of their partial exo-skeletons. For this reason I decided to give her a slightly hooked nose because I thought it would suit Andorians more angular features.
The symbol on the bottom is of the new Andorian Guard. Andorii is the primary spoken language of Andoria. Graalek is the written form of Graalen which is considered the root language of Andorii. There's no official chart for this but I found a very well fan made one to write Andorian going down the side.
Andorians are such a fascinating species and I want to research them further.
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shranstan · 9 months ago
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"In 2377, Dr. Bart Faulwell noted a similarity between the written language of the Ardanan culture and Andorii, as well as with Human languages of Japanese and Chinese. (CoE eBook: Signs from Heaven)" (memory beta)
are you kidding me. hanfu andorians NOW
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youvebeenlivingfictional · 4 years ago
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I‘m  Always Curious Part Thirty Six
Previous Part | Next Part |  Masterlist Notes: I hope everyone’s having a good week 💕 ALSO @captain-andorable drew AMAZING fanart of Chapters 35 and 18, big thank you to them!! They’re amazing, y’all, go check them out!!!
Warnings: Cursing, a lil fluff, a lil angst. Y’all know me. (Still 😅) Summary: The briefing the Pike had given around the Hutton had made three facts incredibly clear: 1. The crew of the Hutton was terrified— for what reasons, we had yet to ascertain. 2. The landing party would be minimal— Pike, Una, Spock, Thira, Watson, and myself. 3. He did not want me going with them.
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“Hey Pal, we’re heading over to pick up the S.S. Hutton. We got these files, but I’m not recognizing the language. The root looks Andorii. Feel like taking a crack at ‘em?” I asked, leaning over the seat of my old station.
“For sure, send ‘em over!” Paledore grinned, “We’re warping there now?” I nodded, “They’re dead in the water, transmissions are coming in static-y as all hell, and half of the crew is stranded down on Catalpa.” Paledore cringed. “I know,” I nodded, “I’m beaming down with the away team once we drop out of warp, I’ll have my communicator with me. Patch through with anything you work out.” “Will do!” I gave him a quick nod of thanks before heading for the turbolift. We had about an hour until we arrived at Catalpa. -- The briefing the Pike had given around the Hutton had made three facts incredibly clear: 1. The crew of the Hutton was terrified— for what reasons, we had yet to ascertain. 
2. The landing party would be minimal— Pike, Una, Spock, Thira, Watson, and myself: people that the Captain knew could quickly size up situations, cover our bases, follow orders when needed (but that were capable of going against Pike’s orders if we knew that it would be conducive to the safest outcome for the missions— something that Pike himself would do.)  3. He did not want me going with them. Only the primary points of the first two facts had been stated. We all knew Pike trusted us as his crew— he knew our strengths and weaknesses; he knew that we were willing to weigh the risks and put ahead the needs of the many for the needs of the few, or the one, in the case of risky away missions. The look that Pike had cast me as he’d dismissed us had told me all that I’d needed to know about his feelings regarding my beaming down with them. In my past few months on the Enterprise, Christopher had kept the kid gloves off, even going so far as sending me on away missions where he was not present. But when he’d nod me on my way, there was always a  ittle twist to his mouth, a little furrow to his brow. But he was being good. We were being good. We were still sparring– on a far more regular basis than we had been in my previous stint on the Enterprise. We shared the odd meal together— typically with at least Una or Spock present; it was rare that it was just the two of us. When it was, though, I had to stop myself from letting my looks linger, or from allowing myself to think too long about the feeling of his ankle or calf brushing against mine under the table. I didn’t let my eyes settle on the secretive, sweet little smiles that he would cast me before taking a drink from his glass, or the odd blink-and-I’d-miss-it wink. The minor proximity was enough to turn my insides to goo. It was embarrassing— and I was sure that he knew what effect he was having. Neither of us had taken any other steps toward fully rekindling the relationship we’d had before, but we were spending more time in each other's company than we had even when we’d briefly been together. His evening-ending murmurs of sweetheart hadn’t stopped, either. I didn’t want them going anywhere. But that concerned, displeased little look had been on Christopher’s face as I’d left the ready room to inform Paledore of our most recent assignment. 
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“Dooooor,” I dragged out, voice hardly above a mumble as I rifled through the box from the storage unit that they’d kept my things in while I’d been away from the Enterprise. “Do I even want to know what you’re looking for?” I smiled at Una’s question, hardly looking away from my task. “I … Had this one notebook from the Academy, with translations and um— fuck,” I muttered, pulling a couple of other notebooks out and dropping them onto my desk, even as Una walked over to me, folding her arms over her chest, “It was from my Esoteric Excavated Xenolinguisitic elective— some of the uh… Some of the runes that were transmitted from the Hutton look so familiar, but I can’t—” “You do know that if you just put all of these notes on a PADD like a normal person, you wouldn’t be giving yourself a thousand-and-one paper cuts for the sake of a hunch? There’s a reason that this is no longer the prevailing method of note-taking and note-keeping.” I could hear Una’s condemning furrowed brow. “I do know that, thank you, mother,” I grumbled, straightening up and planting my hands on my hips as I looked over strewn stacks of notebooks on the desk, and the upturned stack that remained in the box. There were a few other items still inside as well— a sprig of Vulcan mint in a sealed box that Spock had brought back for me from Koutov’s conservatory, some Larilian coins from my first stint on the planet, a wilted flower that I’d picked from a patch of wildflowers back in Sandblossom. “... Why haven't you unpacked this stuff?” Una frowned, leaning against the desk. I considered it for a moment as I sat down in my desk chair, waving my hand in permission as she cast me a questioning glance before she reached into poke through the contents. “I don’t know. When I got back aboard, when… When I got into this room, and saw my stuff— Some of my stuff,” I shook my head, “It was like… It was like I was looking through someone else’s things. I’m not who I was the last time I was here. And that’s not a bad thing, it’s just… There’s a lot of history in there, a lot of good stuff.” “...And you feel that removing it from the box now will change its meaning?” I didn’t meet Una’s gaze, just eyed where she held the small container of Vulcan mint. “Something like that. Stupid, huh?” “Not the word I’d use.” “But the sentiment is on the right track?” Una made a thoughtful little noise in the back of her throat as she lowered the mint back into the box. “You are changed,” She agreed, “To disregard what has happened to you in your time away from the ship would be a disservice to what you’ve gone through. But consider,” She turned to face me again, crossing her arms, “The things that made those memories good then, who made them good, are still a part of you.” My stomach twisted, and I lowered my eyes. Thoughts of Sandblossom and Una’s profile under the low brim of a stetson, Spock’s arched little brow as he passed me the sprig after the incident on Koutov, the memory of being in Christopher’s arms, his generous smiles and warm gazes on Sepheron were things that had all kept me going on Somonia, and during the war. “I suppose,” I conceded quietly. “...And I do still see glimmers of who you were in the time before Somonia, and the war, sometimes,” Una tacked on softly. I glanced up at her curiously, and I found her smiling. She added, “There’s a lightness to you, an excitement— particularly when we’re hailed by a ship that speaks an obscure language, or you’re able to beam down and interact with a civilization that speaks something other than Basic or Klingon.” “Well. It’s what I was trained to do,” I sniffed. “Dork.” Una straightened up. “Tell you something else,” She added as she walked away, “I see it when you’re with him, too.” She didn’t need to clarify— the look that she threw me over her shoulder told me everything that I needed to know. “We drop out of warp in twenty minutes,” She warned before leaving my room, the door sliding shut behind her. Tag list: @angels-pie ; @fantasticcopeaglepasta  ; @mylittlelonelyappreciationtoo ; @how-am-i-serpose-to-know ; @onlyhereforthefandomandgiggles ; @inmyowncorner  ; @tardis-23  ; @paintballkid711 ; @katrynec ; @hypnobananaangelfish ; @elen-aranel ; @blueeyesatnight ; @hotchswifey ; @carbonated-beverage���
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patheticwhimsy · 4 years ago
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I think my fave headcanon is that the Aenar still speak old Andorii which is based in tone and sounds like singing.
oh i love that!
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wearebrighterthanthesun · 6 years ago
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“You might want to spit that out” Clara said casually, as watched her crew member shovel the wild berries into their mouth. She didn’t blame them, she was hungry too but she could read the signs written in Andorii. Leaning against one of the large wooden signs, she crossed her arms and smirked slightly at her companion. “This sign says they’re poisonous.”
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empathicstars · 7 years ago
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Beep! You have a new message! "-cording? Ah, uh, hello, lieutenant! This might be presumptuous, but I wanted to wish you a cheerful birthday! Next time you're near DS9, I'll buy you a drink! Er, if you drink, I mean. Uh, talk to you later!"
it’s Aella’s birthday! | accepting | @blueshiftedthaan
   It is a rather shocking surprise to see that she has a subspace message waiting for her, for... who would reach out to her? Any that need her usually reside upon the ship. Aella puts her writing utensil down, walks to her personal computer, plays the message. It is unexpected, like everything about him appears to be. Unexpected electricity. Unexpected excitement. Unexpected kindness.
   She sits in silence after the voice fades. 
   A cheerful birthday... 
   Black eyes raise to look at a lone room, empty room, full of books. She sees crimson that is not there crusted on the wall -- feels gazes on her that no longer exist. She feels... alone.
   She plays the message again. Lets the excited voice drown out all the others in the room with her. 
   It is hours later that she sends a message of gratitude in Andorii. 
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blueshiftedthaan-blog · 7 years ago
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Habits and Tics of One Relen th’Iraathror While Working
Blueberry mutters almost constantly when he’s absorbed in his work. Most of the muttering will be his internal narration; lots of questions and answers, proposals and problems. He’d be a big fan of the programmer’s rubber duck if he knew about it. Vocalizations will generally be in English Federation Standard during low stress, but if something is aggravating him or otherwise causing high stress, he’ll switch to Andorii.
Foot tapping, antennae clenching and relaxing, and idly scratching at his forearms are all very common tics when he’s forced to remain still for too long.
Explosive outbursts upon success are to be expected, often to the dismay of anyone sharing his work-space.
When he’s alone, he’ll often have music playing in the background. He’s fond of flabjellah solos and Terran opera. The sweeping epics often found in opera remind him of Andorian folklore.
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indignantlemur · 1 year ago
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Hi!
Before I start I just wanted to tell you that I absolutely love your works, 'Emigre' as well as 'The Stars keep watch' and I am really grateful for you giving us all such amazing and detailed views of the andorian culture.
I've read almost all of them, so I'm pretty sure that you didn't answer this question before, but in case you did, just ignore this ask :)
How excactly do andorian names work in your opinion. I get the whole clan thing etc. but is there an aspect that is present in all names e.g. that it starts with certain letters? Or is there a certain way a name is supposed to sound like to be andorian?
After all there is a vast difference between the names "Kevin" and "Vilashral 'Shral' of Clan Hrisvalar".
If there's not an answer to the question, it's fine too. I'm just curious if there's like a rule when you create your names? If you understand what I mean?
Hi there! And my goodness, thank you! I'm always so happy to meet new readers!
So my Andorian name process usually starts by checking over canon names. When naming a new character, I want to follow the hallmarks of canon Andorian names without copying them exactly.
For example, these are a mix of female and male canon names:
Ghee P'trell
Jennifer Sh'reyan
Keval
Krotus
Talah
Talas
Talla
Telev
Thy'lek Shran
Tholos
Thon
Thoris
Tysess
Ryn
Shras Endilev
Shukar
Va'Al Trask
Va'Kel Shon
Val Shon
Umarin
There are more, of course, but even with a small sample we can see a few things. Names beginning with the letter T are very popular, but the given names also tend to be two-to-three syllable long names. Beyond that, there's a mix of different types of vowels (short and long) and most of the consonants tend to be softer ones, though not exclusively.
For my headcanons and naming purposes, I have a couple of considerations to look at from this point. The first headcanon is that Andorians do not generally give non-Andorians their full names, because Andorii is a very sibilant language with a lot of soft sounds and drawn out vowels in rapid succession. Outsiders generally don't get their names right, so it's easier to go by shortened by-name than have to cringe every time your commanding officer calls you a salad by mistake.
The second headcanon builds on the first, in that full given names are broken into fragments. There are the face-name fragments that you give to strangers and off-worlders, and then there's the full name. Some individuals make use of a third fragment, which is a name used by close friends and loved ones, but it's less common. Not everyone abides by these rules, as there are always exceptions to every rule, but it's generally a good rule of thumb - especially with a culture where it's entirely too easy to find yourself in a duel to the death.
Taking all of that into account, I actually find name generators (I like this one, personally) for Andorian names to be a great starting point for creating a new name. A lot of the generated suggestions are meh, but if I can get a starting point, then I can fiddle with it until I have a name that feels right.
So, for example, I just generated ten female names:
Sevo Zh'viahliq Villen Sh'tiveq Ethrivia Zh'shrihres Esilaa Sh'vhiathrarh Aseraa Sh'kitrit Jhalli Sh'okialrarh Ipythosh Zh'rhethit Shryssa Zh'rolrirh Threra Zh'rhikress Vamaa Zh'ataakross
These are all kind of same-samey and a bit... jumbled, to look at. I want a name that a reader can look at without their eyes glazing over. So, what happens now is I take the likeliest lads (ladies in this case) of the lot and workshop them.
Let's say I want to do something with Shryssa Zh'rolrirh, Aseraa Sh'kitrit, and Vamaa Zh'ktaakross.
Shryssa Zh'rolrirh - a good starting foundation, but I already have a character called Shryss and they've reversed the capitalization of the rank and Clan name. In this case, I'll cannibalize one of the other names. The Clan name doesn't quite feel right to me, so I'll grab one of the other pre-generated ones and modify it.
Aseraa Sh'kitrit - I'm generally happy with this name, though I think the Clan name is a little meh, but it feels like I took "Sarah", dropped the H, added a vowel, and called it done. So, let's see if we can't make it sound more properly alien and maybe swap the Clan name for something else.
Vamaa Zh'ktaakross - this is the one I want to change the least, actually, but Vamaa still seems more like a face-name than a full name, so we'll adapt it a little.
Therefore, we get:
Shryssa Zh'rolrirh -> Jhalleshryssa "Shryssa" zh'Tiivekh -> Shryssa
Aseraa Sh'kitrit -> Ipseseraa "Seraa" sh'Shras -> Seraa
Vamaa Zh'ktaakross -> Ulavamaal "Vamaa" zh'Kraakross -> Vamaa
It's not a perfect system, and sometimes names just come to me on the spot rather than requiring help from a generator or other sources.
So let's look at Ambassador Thoris. Thoris is his face-name, but his full name is Anlenthoris th'Kor. In official documents, he is referred to by his full name, Clan, and rank, but in his day-to-day working life he is Thoris. In his personal life, his spouses call him Anlen. Under no circumstances would it ever be appropriate for someone like Dagmar or Shral to call him Anlen - the inference of having an intimate relationship with a married man of his rank and position would be considered a duelling offense.
Thanks for the ask! Hopefully I've managed to answer your questions, but I always welcome more if I haven't!
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diedsaving-moved-blog · 8 years ago
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✨ @klingonblood​ ​ ↬ PUNCHED IT, 6/5.
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"Ghuy’cha’.”  the expletive’s not quite hissed under his breath & he immediately remembers the company he keeps.  far be it from him to seem INSENSITIVE of another language or culture.   “Apologies.  I don’t know much klingon, my pronunciation’s terrible.  It’s one of the few languages I could never quite grasp.” read: he’d picked it up as an elective, but dropped it quickly enough upon the realization it would take far more devotion than high orion, andorii, or the ferengi language -- simply time he didn’t have.
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andorianminingconsortium · 11 months ago
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Thank you very much for your response! It's very helpful and I will go and read all the things you linked! Also thank you @horta-in-charge for the summoning!
I'm very happy to have also discovered more accounts who posts stuff that have to do with Andorians.
I'm going to play an Andorian in a Star Trek Adventures TTRPG so I would love to he able to answer my shipmates questions when they inevitably go "what does that sound like in Andorian" (Andorii? I love that for the name of the language, I hadn't thought of (or heard) that before!). And so far all of the responses have been so helpful and lovely to hear!
Hi Star Trek fans and nerds! Do we know what the Andorian language sounds like? Do you have a headcanon for it? I would love to know all of your opinions and ideas!
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indignantlemur · 1 year ago
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hello, how are you?
I have a question regarding andorian humor, what is it like? Is it subtle? Is it a play on words like humans do sometimes?
Also how similar and different are humans and andorians philosophy wise?
Thank you for answering, have a good day/evening
Hi! I'm fine, thank you! I hope you're doing well, too! <3
Andorian-specific humour is a subtle thing, relying more on tricks of grammar and homophones/homographs than anything else, though Andorians can and will find quite a lot of different things amusing across multiple cultures.
Specifically, Andorii has some interesting nuances with propositional grammars. By definition, a propositional statement is one that must be solved or proven to be true or untrue. In Andorii, the grammars surrounding that can sometimes imply that something is both true and false at the same time, which Andorians generally find hilarious. The more profound or important the statement, the more hilarious the duality is. Sadly, these jokes aren't usually very funny to non-Andorians, unless they happen to be intimately familiar with Andorii and its quirks.
A classic play, which describes a time of political and social upheaval following the death of one Emperor and the ascension of another, is full of these propositional statements, including a famous scene where two different characters are caught in a loop where both are insisting "The Emperor is dead!" and also saying, at the same time, "The Emperor is not dead!" Each character misunderstands the other despite repeated attempts at clarification with yet more propositional statements, which only serves to anger both sides until it devolves into a very undignified brawl just outside the Emperor's chambers. Meanwhile, the staff, guards, and servants awaiting orders are hopelessly confused, and the Heir Apparent has started drinking. When asked why by an outraged minister, the Heir Apparent cheerfully responds, "Because the Emperor is (not) dead!"
Andorians enjoy plays on words and clever puns as an extension of that, and even flat jokes can go over pretty well with Andorians, but it's not universal. Much like how not every Human enjoys slapstick humour, not every Andorian is going to find these sort of jokes entertaining. Your mileage can and will vary!
As for Andorian philosophy, Andorians on the whole tend to favour more pragmatic approaches to things, but their profound love of music and art betrays a society with a deeply poetic heart. It could be said that Andorians don't have distinct schools of philosophy so much as a continuous, woven narrative of ideas that are heavily intertwined. The collective philosophic discourse constantly evolves with each new idea introduced, argued, and successfully defended. Old ideas are regularly reviewed with through the lens of each new perspective. Not all of these philosophies are in agreement with one another, of course. Especially discordant philosophical ideas are referred to as 'snarls' or 'snags' in the weave, and they are generally accepted and even welcomed by society at large. Andorians don't shy away from difficulty and hardship, and ideas which challenge their way of thinking and perceiving the world around them are greeted with cool analysis and careful thought, albeit sometimes only after a few kneejerk responses stemming from traditional social mores. To outsiders, the reception may seem cold, but to Andorians it is the only sensible way to proceed. Once a new idea, or set of ideas, has been dissected, examined, stress-tested in vigorous debate, and successfully defended, it is absorbed into the weave. Anything which fails this process is summarily ignored.
Very, very rarely, the development of a particularly disruptive or destructive philosophy will cause significant upheaval in the broader community and draw the ire of the Emperor. Remember that Andorians are extremely community oriented and regulate nearly everything. To receive official censure from on high is as good as social suicide - never mind what it does to one's career. It effectively renders a person toxic, and while there are certainly rebellious individuals who don't much care for what the Emperor does or says, there are many, many more who are vastly more concerned with how their behaviour affects their families. More often than not, in these cases - which I must stress are very rare indeed - exile is the only option the censured individuals feel they have left.
Thanks for the ask! I hope it helped!
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indignantlemur · 1 year ago
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Mostly a curiosity, but should we assume Dagmar is always speaking Andorii or a regional dialect while on Andoria? Does she ever switch back to standard when with Shral or Thelen?
Hello!
I headcanon Andoria as having a primary language, Standard Andorii, which came about Post-Unification as another means of uniting the scattered Clans with a single language. On top of that, however, Andoria also has about a half a dozen regional variations of Andorii, all of which have distinct differences such as accent, stress patterns, sentence structure, and grammatical gendering of parts of the language.
Recall that Dagmar speaks Standard Andorii, and three other dialects. The three other dialects she speaks are the ones she deemed distinct enough from Standard Andorii that she couldn't manage even with her fluency in the standardized language. She can get by in every dialect, but there's a marked difference in proficiency and confidence between the ones she's actually formally studied and absorbed versus the ones she's parsing as she goes.
Dagmar is reasonably practical, as people go, and she has a vested interest in keeping her skills sharp. So, when Dagmar is on Andoria or otherwise speaking with Andorians, she's generally speaking Standard Andorii or utilizing the dialects she speaks with natural-born speakers whenever she can. When she's on Earth, she switches back to Standard (after a very jarring adjustment period, naturally) or otherwise swaps back and forth between Standardized Andorii and Federation Standard. When in Rome, as they say.
Generally speaking, Dagmar doesn't need to switch back into Standard when talking to Thelen or Shral very often. She's fluent enough in Standard Andorii that she almost never has to pause to find a word or substitute one from Federation Standard. It certainly can happen, however - especially should Dagmar become genuinely distraught or stressed to the point where she reverts back to her mother languages.
Thanks for the ask! <3
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indignantlemur · 2 years ago
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Very cool! Thank you for sharing it! I wonder if I can find something for Andorii - or if that's something I'll have to basically invent myself, along with everything else I've done for Andorian lore. 😆
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This is the fan made chart for the andorian alphabet that I was able to find. From what I was able to find it was made by Neko-Samma on DevianArt. Hope you find it interesting @indignantlemur
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