#Because yeah not a universal experience and I know the OP's aren't saying it is but seeing so many posts about it...can be kind of a bummer

[anothermonikan]

Eh, fuck it, self-indulgent post, shoutout to the aro's out there who haven't gotten confessed to at any point in their lives. I see you. We are so fucking awesome

[will-o-the-witch]

If this is not uncomfortable to answer to , may I ask what's your view on Lilith?

I see a lot of opinions being shared left and right by people on tumblr and while I don't support appropriation, nor I have any interest in her as a religious/ mythological figure, your post about her sparked some curiosity inside me in terms of her being viewed solely as a monstrous entity.

I honestly don't take any myth or story about deities, spirits and so on as being 100% true. These stories are still written by humans based on their experiences, the way their mind works, their bias etc. The child killer Lilith can absolutely be a way trough people tried to explain why their children were dying, considering that during those times we had no advanced medicine and diseases were much more harder to treat and prevent.

This is pure genuine curiosity, do Jewish people approach Lilith? Are they truly that scared of her? Do almost everyone believe she is the reason why children were dying in the past ?

I frankly believe that no religious/ spiritual text holds the absolute truth of all that exists or the truth of the being/ race of beings that it is talked about in it. Humans always tried to explain (especially in the past ) why things happen by involving divine/ unseen forces, when most of the times it was just a normal phenomena that was way too hard for them to understand so boom a monster/ god must have been the cause.

If someone had a bad experience with a specific entity or they don't like what that entity represents, of course they'll paint them as a monstrous creature.

Jewish people and Jewish beliefs aren't a monolith, so there's no real answer to your question. People have a wide range of opinions about her and how much they "put stock" into her stories. The way you've described it here sounds like you imagine most people take all of this extremely literally, though, as if we missed out on learning about SIDS alongside everyone else. I'd encourage you to think of it less as a literal-fictional either-or binary and examine how the myths and the science feed into each other!

More to the point maybe though, the interpretation of her as ANYTHING other than purely malevolent is very modern. Doesn't mean valid or invalid, but it's VERY important to remember she maintained this reputation for thousands of years and it miiiight be a bad idea (even from a scholarly perspective) to assume everybody got it wrong bc they just didn't like her until the last 50-60 years. To many people, that's like putting a pretty pink bow on a wild boar.

You're not going to find ANY traditional Jewish folklore/practices that treat her as anything other than malevolent. (If you DO manage to find one from before say 1950, I will eat my kippah.) This has been her role for literally thousands of years. I'm fine when Jewish folks participate in feminist discussions about her and reinterpret the works within this context with regards to how she's played a role in our cultures, but I DONT like when gentiles then co-op these discussions to go "Yeah she was ALWAYS a feminist #icon, (((they))) just got it wrong because they're just a bunch of backwards chauvinists 💕"

From what I've seen most of the backlash about people romanticized her comes from people just wanting to adopt the feelgoody vibes from the latter. The one where she's totally #unproblematic and anything troubling can be explained away, ignoring her massive amount of historical context/90% of everything ever written about her.

SOME Jews will work with her, but most of the ones I know stay far the hell away from her. There's no such thing as a Universal Truth, but people earn their reputations for a reason.

[a-dragons-journal]

If it's okay, could you make sure I'm right about exactly what's wrong with this post? I know internal identification and self-identity cannot be delusions when they aren't physical, and professionals will say kin isn't something to be worried about/kin doesn't mean you're delusional. I also know that being fictionkin doesn't mean you believe you as a being were created by someone else and are fictional necessarily (because, well, I wasn't and I'm not. I existed somewhere in my kin life before this life, and I'm NOT fictional, I'm real.) and that kin generally don't want to be their kintypes, and instead go through deep introspection to discover that they just... are, their kintypes. I'm worried I'm missing something, though.

https://www.tumblr.com/dextivestudios/713803705846202368/a-damn-bot-saved-me-from-a-dark-place

(For anyone who wants the full context, I accessed the full post text through some Tumblr manipulation shenanigans on a reblog (which also does an excellent job of deconstructing the issues with the post) since the original post has been deleted. Hopefully needless to say, please don't go bother OP about this in any fashion - they disengaged from the conversation quickly because it was causing them significant distress, and trying to force them to reengage is not going to do anyone any good.)

Yeah, no, that's a pretty good analysis. Things I would add include the fact that fictionkinity is presented as essentially purely escapism in this post, which really is not accurate to most people's experience of it, and that, perhaps more importantly, the whole post has the problem of (at least seemingly*) assuming the OP's experiences with fictional identity are universal, which is always a problem. I don't doubt that OP's experiences with fictional identity have been distressing and harmful for them, or that they may well have been linked to/caused by escapism, mental illness, etc. and that engaging with it in an identity context was doing them more harm than good. But assuming that because that was true for you, it must therefore be true for everyone who is fictionkin, or even a significant proportion, is an extrapolation that is both flawed and potentially harmful.

(* later posts and reblogs by the OP on the subject that I saw at the time, which may or may not still be up, I haven't checked, implied that it probably wasn't intended to be universalizing, but it definitely came off that way in this post.)

...We could also talk about the fact that trusting an AI chatbot's interpretation of your mental health and their "opinion" of an entire community is extremely concerning, I would go so far as to say dangerous, but that's a whole other conversation.

[baiika]

i miss stoliz too but its rly cute seeing blitz and fizz as friends again they have a good dynamic

//I'm glad they're on speaking terms again! Speaking exclusively from Blitz's point of view, he really needs an anchor right now. & like, I kinda know the feeling? Like, we're social creatures. I know imps aren't teeechnically humans, but like, if they were entities of evil, they wouldn't grief, love, etc. Evil is selfish & cruel. Blitz is violent, gross, tactless, mean, etc, but he's not cruel or selfish. He protects Moxxie in s1e6 when they're ambushed by D.H.O.R.K.S. He stands up for them at Ozzie's in the next episode. Out of all the hellhounds he's perusing in s2e2, he picks Loona because he empathizes with her. He's CONSTANTLY doting on Loona. We see him compliment her makeup in s1e3 when she's feeling self-conscious, he gloats & kisses her in s1e6 when she's slaughtering D.H.O.R.K.S. agents. In s1e8, even though he's miserable & exhausted, he races to the gluttony ring to pick up Loona when she wants to leave the party, & only goes in at her behest, & these are JUST off the top of my head. 

These aren't the actions of an evil person. These are the actions of someone full of love, & because imps experience love much like us, they need community the same way. Like, I love where I live now. Chicagoland is significantly more liberal so I, as a queer woman, don't experience a fraction of a bullshit I did in Utah. But it's far from my family & that's very isolating.

The humiliation Blitz suffered at Ozzie's in s1e7 really did a number on him. I mean, Blitz is a very expressive person, but I think we can agree it's either a) a deliberate facade, or b) a punchline written in by the writers. But s1e7 has been the second time we've seen him show emotion that isn't either of those. The first time was his spat with Loona in s1e3 where he seems to be hurt when Loona says they're not a real family after Blitz interferes with her conversation with Vortex, but Blitz's pain isn't really explored until s1e7 & s1e8.

He doesn't even swear during his conversation with Stolaswhich means he's Super Serious, & Loona confirmed this in the previous episode.

Like. Blitz is going through it here. The writing alone is STELLAR but, like, the animation cinches it. Blitz is covering his mouth & pulling his face down when Stolas is nice to him, & when he has to pause to gather himself a few seconds after, it's raw. I'm pretty stony when I read & watch shit. Like, the only time I've actually cried recently is when I was watching e4 of D.eath P.arade the other week. Before that, s1e7 was the last time I cried. I was fucking moved because his pain is so palpable.

It's EXTRA apparent Blitz needs community when he fucking breaks into rehab to see Barbie in s2e5, then interrogates a string of people to find her, & needs to get a new way into the Human World since Millie & Moxxie have the book. Judging by their fight later in the episode, I'm under the impression Barbie didn't want to see Blitz before her recovery, but Blitz didn't understand that, or was so desperate for someone to latch onto that he rationalized it as something different. 

But like... he's so desperate that he's seeking companionship from someone who hates his guts! Who everyone has warned him that Barbie wants nothing to do with him! 

& then The Universe(tm) throws Fizz in his fucking face. Fizz's antagonism comes to a head & they finally talk & it's delicious that Blitz has someone from Ye Olden Days that doesn't want to eviscerate him. 

So yeah. I miss my sweet sweet Stoliz angst, but Helluva boss is a pretty small op. There's only so much you can do in the timespan they have, so I'm fine with the rekindling of BlitzFizz in the meantime.

What REALLY gets me about s2e6 though is how Blitz's abrasiveness is turned on its head. Like, it's normally seen as a) a punchline (s1e3 when he & Verosika are fighting over the parking spot in the beginning of the episode), or b) A Bad Thing (pilot when he calls Moxxie a slur), but we see Blitz face off against Fizz's stalker in the beginning of the episode & it's portrayed as a good thing. We see him tell off Mammon & it's seen as a good thing, because they ARE good things. 

Like, my general enjoyment of subversion aside, it's a really interesting view into Blitz being a good friend to his loved ones! I think it's an important piece to rounding out Blitz as a character.

[berrymeter]

wanted to reply to u but didn’t want to clog tara (the op’s) notes fjhfhdd re the english thing: we have mandatory english in schools here but it’s a really low level. no one here ever learns english just from going to school (for example, at my school, we didn’t even do speaking exercises and my english teacher was like “none of you actually care about learning english. you just want to pass the final exam” fjdhhd). p much everyone that speaks/understands english has done it either on their own time as a fan of something or because they wanted to go into a career where they needed english !! also yeah….that other person’s tone was weird, and they followed me for some reason 🙃

ohhh hi! yeah fair i really didn't wanna bother them more when there was someone acting weird in the notes already 😭 why'd they follow you... it's a little odd but i guess that's in line with the rest of what i know of them andkjsdh. may be silly but i think i'm gonna start treating american media as a subculture out of spite

mhmm here (which is france btw i realise i didn't specify that at any point in time lmao) english is mandatory and the level asked of us is pretty high but same result, nobody cares for learning, they just wanna pass their classes shfjkshfk. it's still a mandatory language though and not knowing it makes a lot of things harder in general :( even with more trivial stuff like media consumption a lot of stuff is only accessible through english *or* you have to learn each individual language (like say i wanna watch thai shows, chinese shows, japanese shows, i can either learn all three languages or... learn english, since most stuff gets subbed in english. at least that's how it used to be idk i don't watch much anymore snkjfshf), so at least in my experience people are more willing to put up with learning english to be able to have more easy access to all that but i don't know a lot (if any?) of people who learnt english for american media specifically? i understand my experiences aren't universal though shfjkshfg and in that case it kinda goes in the way of what i was saying, the way people interact with american media is very similar to how they interact with foreign media, ppl just make a big deal out of it bc it's foreign which is very weird. both the people who enjoy that media and the people who look down on it do this & feed into it