#Bridgerton Production

[viscountessevie]

how you seen alergy wedding and lack of kathony ☠️☠️

Oh how I've missed asks but also need to reply to everyone from way back then. But baby steps we'll do this one tonight and I'll take on the old ones tomorrow!

Hi anon, thanks for the ask! Yeah so I was unwittingly following S3's production for a bit (thanks Twitter moots posting all over my TL). Honestly after a while, it just made me angry because my bar in hell about barely any Kathony in it and Allergy getting everything was turning out to be right. So I stopped paying attention for my sanity.

However, from a film graduate perspective and as someone who was trained as a producer, I will say it's VERY interesting for me to watch this car crash of a season production. Especially with them reshooting from the start - I may be wrong but this is the second time I've seen many scenes being filmed AGAIN when they were initially filmed months ago.

Sorry Anon I kind of got off track about how S3 is a money pit now and how there might not be an S4! Under the cut:

Anyways reshooting costs money, I mean we all can draw this conclusion. However with Bton's scale, each day is costing them AT LEAST an amount in the HIGH Thousands. So at this point, S3 is a money pit. It has definitely gone over budget and I will not be surprised if this eats into their S4 budget. Due to this, Netflix could potentially rescind S4's renewal.

The viewing numbers will be worse by the time the show rolls out. This is genuine biasness aside, numbers WILL drop because of Netflix's new password sharing rules. There will NO longer be the 80 million viewers/accounts by the time S3 comes out. Everyone is cancelling their accounts left and right. So the official numbers will dwindle and won't be up to the Bridgerton Standard - which is still more views than the usual shows but it may not be good enough for the Netflix executives.

Honestly after how Bton's production has shown itself to be completely unprofessional, it needs to die.

From the way they've treated their stars of colour (and it's telling how multiple cast members keep leaving), trash talking their characters of colour (see: The EPs like Tom Verica, Betsy Beers, Shonda talking about Kate and even Marina's writing) to showing blatant favouritism towards white leads while still championing itself as a "diverse ensemble show". And of course not to mention day drinking on set with heavy equipment (I have more to say on this but it's neither here nor there but feel free to ask in a follow up!)

If S4 is Philoise rumours are true, I do hope Netflix yanks back it's renewal. To be completely honest: no one else, other than the small group of yt fans, want to see two back to back white couples. The fact is most of the GA and a large portion of the fans within the fandom are people of colour who tuned in to see the diverse casting and characters of colour. The show was built on the promise of diversity. To have them negate on it now, is just very disappointing and not what a big portion of us signed up for.

Now with so many more other diversity shows (I'm BEGGING yall to go watch Mr. Malcolm's List, Sandition and these two recced by Michaela @minim236 : Tom Jones and The Confessions of Frannie Langton), people are obviously going to gravitate to these shows. Ones that are made with heart with good storytelling, treat their stars and characters with respect and are just fun to watch!

I am getting off the Bridgerton train and definitely won't be watching S3 (maybe a Kathony cut online).

I will say, if yall can let Kathony go slowly like I did, jump ship and explore other shows/books similar to Kathony because this show will continue punishing us for liking them. They do not care about what the viewers want at all which is a shame, because these are the people they are ultimately profiting off.

After expanding my HR book tastes and finding new shows like the ones listed above, I've found there is so so much out there. Feel free to hit me up for recs (I will warn you it's limited variety rn) and also you can scroll through @hptriviachamp and @mermaidsirennikita's blogs for HR recs as well shoot them, @jeanvanjer and Michaela (linked above) asks!

[mrsbridgerton]

luke thompson and yerin ha on set filming the masquerade ball in season 4 of bridgerton!

[fitrahgolden]

Production Designer Alison Gartshore gives a tour of Kate and Anthony Bridgerton's rooms for Architectural Digest.

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[kvtnisseverdeen]

bridgerton | 2.01 perhaps if the queen abandoned this absurdity that is the diamond, we would all see that a woman can be so much more.

[lemonhemlock]

tried watching the new queen charlotte series but was immediately put off by the ridiculous anti-corset propaganda, so get ready for another rant.

first of all, this is the georgian era so what she's wearing are called /stays/ - corsets are a victorian invention. why do we still not know this in 2023 when period productions have remained consistently popular throughout the years? the concept of tighlacing (the goal being a reduction of the waist) is also victorian and was not the norm at all and v much an extreme practice. this understanding of history is so superficial, it's as if an alien were to open up People magazine and conclude that all human women resort to butt injections and lip fillers to stay with the fashion of the times. also, no, you cannot tighlace in stays to obtain a waist reduction because they are shaped like a funnel (picture 1 = long stays, 2 = short regency stays, 3 = corset)

charlotte goes on to complain about how dangerous whalebone is and that it might kill her if she makes the wrong move. what the actual fuck? whalebone was actually the very best material to use for this because it was sturdy yet flexible and allowed the /stays/ to completely and comfortably mold around a woman's unique body shape. one of the reasons why today it is v difficult to replicate the same effect in corsetry is because we do not have access to whalebone (killing whales is not cool for obvious reasons) so corset-makers have to resort to other materials like plastic or metal, which CAN break. whereas whalebone doesn't really break as easily. furthermore, stays/corsets were NEVER worn on bare skin, but with a chemise/shift underneath.

why did women in the past resort to this type of undergarment, you ask? well, apart from the fact that women need bust support, the stays also serve the purpose of allowing all the many skirts and petticoats to be placed comfortably onto the waist. you try piling on that much fabric around your bare waist and see how you like it and if you can even carry it all around without it cutting into your stomach.

clothes throughout human history did cater to the popular fashions of the time, yes, but they also reflected the technological limitations and there was thus a practical aspect to it. this is a time before elastic bands, before industrialization and fast fashion, clothes are v difficult to make, everything is done by hand, so a lot of care is put into preserving them, because they are /expensive/ and labour intensive. you don't want your fancy outergarments to get ruined so you wear a lot of undergarments to absorb your bodily fluids since those are easier to make and don't have to look "pretty", can be stained and patchy etc. again, why do you need so many layers in the first place? because this is a time before comfortable heating, with poorly isolated and drafty houses, and it's bloody cold otherwise.

the third reason why that monologue was so dumb is because CHARLOTTE is the reason regency court dress was so preposterous. long story short, in a few decades, the fashionable silhouette changes wildly from the late 1700s to the 1810s.

the regency waistline was much higher and the gowns were much more flowy and unstructured than the late georgian ones (what's commonly known as the empire waistline). the long stays of the late 1700s were now replaced with short stays that really were similar to modern bras. the scene in the first season of bridgerton where they squeeze penelope's sister into what looks like a pair of long stays (?) is bonkers bc no one would wear a waist-constricting boned undergarment under a regency dress. why would they? the natural waist is not even emphasized in any way. this is just another reason to peddle the women-were-oppressed-by-their-lingerie agenda. so if charlotte really hated long stays that much, regency would really have been her time to shine, right? wrong. the woman loved the fashions of her youth so much she forced everyone who came to court to still comply to them, which is why we get the absolutely atrocious regency court dresses - essentially a combination of the georgian style with side panniers, but with an empire waistline.

yeah, this is how daphne SHOULD have looked like when she was presented at court in front of charlotte. i can understand why the showrunners decided to just leave her in a regency silhouette because this is ugly af. but, anyway, queen charlotte is the last person on earth to be complaining about how uncomfortable stays are.

creative licence aside, the reason this pisses me off is because it is SUCH lazy storytelling. the show wants us to know charlotte is a spunky pseudo-feminist character so the easiest way to do that is to have her complain about the evil 'corset' trying to kill her. it is so profoundly ahistorical and does nothing to contribute to the conversation about women's true problems and true limitations during that time. instead of genuinely exploring social history and women's actual lived experiences, we are STILL, in the year of our lord 2023, diverting the discourse towards fabricated issues that never existed in the first place.

the reasons actresses complain about boned underwear in interviews are manifold. costume designers are very overworked, they have to produce clothes for hundreds of people in a very short time, so they simply do not have the time or resources to construct corsets/stays that fit the actresses like they are supposed to. in the past, these garments were made individually for every person and completely to their own requirements. they also make these actresses wear the boning on BARE skin to look extra sexy to the audience or to emphasize their oppression - that never happened, a shift was always worn underneath (hello dakota fanning scene in the alienist??).

moreover, they lace them up until they constrict their ribcages - these women are already super thin and their bodies cannot support more reduction - instead of relying on the historical practices of padding and illusion. nowadays, body parts are what's fashionable - that's why so many resort to fat transfers or breast implants or starving themselves to achieve a flat stomach. in the past, anyone of any size could have accomplished the fashionable silhouette because they had a wide array of accouterments to plop underneath their garments - panniers, bustles, hoop skirts, padding of any sort. it didn't matter how big your waist was, you just padded other areas until you achieved the desired shape. fat women wore corsets/stays, too. working women, who did a lot of physical labour, did the same. how were they able to perform all of their tasks if they were incapable of moving or breathing? even today, people wear medical corsets all the time.

TLDR the media's obsession with portraying modern women as so liberated because they wear bras instead of "patriarchal" underwear is so tedious.

EDIT: Some very basic chronological tadpoles to make this easier to place within historical context. "Georgian" is used to denote the 18th+ century when Great Britain was ruled by several kings named George, so roughly 1714-1830. Within this interval, we refer to the Regency period as encompassing the regency of Prince George, future King George IV, when his father George III was incapacitated by mental illness. The official political regency took place during 1811-1820, but culturally speaking, this was extended to roughly the end of the 18th century up to maybe 1830 or 1837. This is the time period of Napoleonic wars and Jane Austen novels, so all her heroines should normally wear Regency styles. Think "empire waistline" as in Imperial France and Napoleon. The Victorian era (and its corsets) follows throughout the rest of the 19th century. Queen Charlotte was a contemporary of Marie Antoinette's, so they should be dressed in similar fashions (robe à la française vs robe à la anglais).

[wikiangela]

tease tidbit tuesday

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don't have a lot of new stuff for the fics i've been sharing lately, so today smth different - coffee shop au is back! progress is constantly being made (slowly, but still lol) - so here's a lil buckley siblings moment (I haven't shared a buck and eddie moment in a minute lmao need to fix that soon haha)

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“What?” he rolls his eyes.

“You’re crushing so hard.” she teases, and he feels his cheeks heat up.

“Shut up.” Buck grumbles, as he grabs a cloth to wipe down the counter just to have something to do. “Not like it matters anyway, he has someone.”

“Really?” Maddie frowns, tilts her head. “Did he tell you that?”

“Not in so many words.” 

“So how do you know?” she prods.

“He ordered for two people.” he says, and only when Maddie laughs, he realizes how stupid and presumptive that is. It could be for anyone, even for himself. Hell, Buck would often order something for himself and for Maddie. Didn’t Eddie say he had an abuela and a tia here? “Shut up, I know.” he groans and covers his face with his hands – and the dirty cloth that’s still in his hand.

“Ew, gross.” Maddie chuckles and pries the cloth out of his hand, dumping it on the counter. “You can be so dense sometimes.” she shakes her head. “When Eddie saw you today, his face literally lit up. He’s been waiting for you to get him his coffee, even though I could’ve done it. If you ask me, he’s crushing, too.”

“Good thing no one asked you.” Buck mutters, and Maddie playfully swats at his arm. “Ow!”

“Just ask him out, Buck, what’s the worst that could happen?” Maddie asks, before turning away just as the door opens and a customer walks in.

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[renegadesstuff]

BENOPHIE LOADING 😍

[foolishlyzephyrus]

my one major gripe with this season is the amount of current pop culture references, because that’s going to date the episodes real fast. i feel this way about basically every other episode like that in previous seasons for the record, it’s just been especially prevalent this season. why must a time traveling show feel so grounded in one time?

edit: fyi, i do enjoy pop culture references and there are a certain charm to the older ones. but the episodes that base their premise heavily on pop culture of the time don’t read as well for me. a dated episode isn’t bad, i just prefer the episodes that feel a little more “timeless”

[winnie-the-monster]

[butcharondir]

An Unholy Sacrament // Rated M

a polin medieval au

nun x knight

multi-chapter slow burn

depictions of medieval violence, religion, and sexism

chapter one: a woad-blue ribbon

Penelope reflects on her life in the nunnery, and a moment from her childhood she can't forget. Colin goes to war.

chapter two: three hundred sides of vellum

Penelope survives fever and finishes a winter project. The King's forces return with grim tidings.

chapter three: i'll sell my flax

Penelope pulls together a plot, but the Abbess throws complications in her path.

Full summary below the cut...

Summary: Chantress Penelope is a respectable nun, in charge of the books in her abbey's scriptorium, and she's proud enough of the life she's made. But she didn't have any choice to become a nun, and ten years after her vows, she still mourns the life she might have had, and the long-buried dreams she's unable to even speak. When her old friend and long-term crush Colin of Bridgerton is sent to war in France, Penelope is more fixated on the event than is seemly for a cloistered woman. And when he fails to return at all, she decides to take matters into her own hands. Penelope has her wits and her talent for guile to help get her to France. Unfortunately, she knows almost nothing of the world beyond the abbey walls, or of the Knight himself…

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[mrsbenedictbridgerton]

Just popping in to thank Netflix for these pictures 😭

[nic-coughlan]

kate bridgerton nee sharma, you deserved so much better baby girl im so sorry

[newtonsheffield]

Benedict “I don’t have a fucking filter” Bridgerton in Chapter 9 of pumped up from the little bright things is coming soon

[malspinningyarns]

When Penelope and Lord Debling are discussing at the library whether there is a romantic novel where the heroine gladly tends to the estate while her husband is away and they can’t find an answer, a few people have pointed out that that’s The Odyssey. And Penelope actually shares the name of The Odyssey’s heroine.

So let’s talk about The Odyssey. It tells of the Greek hero Odysseus’s 10-year long journey back to Ithaca from Troy while his wife Penelope waits for him at home. Odysseus has many adventures where to prove he is smarter and braver than everyone else, he routinely puts himself and his crew in danger. Despite claiming he misses his wife and their son, he cheats on Penelope at least twice. Meanwhile, Penelope has been ruling Ithaca and raising her son for the 10 years of The Trojan War and awaits the return of her husband. As the war has ended and the years pass without Odysseus showing up, young men start arriving on Ithaca as suitors for Penelope because they want her wealth and they think Odysseus is dead. She continues to deny their advances, saying she can’t possibly marry one of them until she finishes her father-in-law’s burial shroud, which she unravels every night to stall for time. The young suitors basically eat all of her food, drink all of her wine, and have sex with the female slaves of the household. Eventually, Odysseus returns to Ithaca- all of his crew has died- and instead of just announcing he’s back, he comes in disguise to see what’s up. Eventually, Penelope figures out this stranger is her husband, but he’s already revealed himself to quite a few people. Penelope and Odysseus are reunited and Odyssey coldly slaughters all of the suitors and the slave women.

This is basically what Lord Debling wants, albeit in a less extreme version. He gets to go on an adventure while his wife runs the home, not knowing what’s going on with her husband because he is in a place where he cannot be contacted. He is free to do whatever he wants (but he’ll be in the Northwest Passage so unlikely to cheat on her) but Penelope has to stay true to her marriage vows. She would be lonely and worried and possibly never know of her husband’s death because he is in a remote place.

The Odyssey can be very fun to read, but it’s not exactly romantic and feminist readings of it are bleak. I’m glad they’re leaning into the Eros and Psyche myth for Polin.

[vocallywritten]

Anyone else notice the random seconds of absolute silence in season 3? Like there will be background noise, birds chirping, and then all of a sudden, usually before someone speaks, there's a weird moment of total silence? What happened there?

[headknight-oh]

Do I want to watch Bridgerton? No, the costumes hurt my historical sewing accuracy brain.

Do I want to see Nicola Coughlan get romanced and bedded in anachronistic regency gossip girl? Yeah, I’m a lesbian duh.

Anyway this is my way of asking if I need to slog through the first two seasons just to get to the new one because I’m genuinely not interested in the orchestral versions of Ariana grande songs and whatever marital rape happens in the first season. I just wanna watch my girl.

Thanks for your time Bridgerton fandom