#CSM 185

[dailyuh]

I’m countin’ on ya, pochita! ⛓️💥

insta <3

[uousoupki]

denji is crazy smart bc the fact you can’t die in the space the aging devil put him in means that he can continuously eat the people in aging devil world to fuel pochita in the real world so he’s literally a perpetual motion machine

[ragde890]

So... Chainsaw Man chapter 185

This reveal is probably the craziest thing to come from this chapter. Not only is it an interesting call-back to Makima's speech back in chapter 84 (with the four possible conclussions other than death), but also raises some questions.

The birth related symbology around Chainsaw Man is undeniable: chainsaws were originally created for Symphysiotomy (the predecessor of the C-section), Hero of Hell Pochita has his umbilical cord around the neck like a rope, and the motherhood symbolisms in both Makima and Yoru. Because of this, people have speculated that Pochita is actually the Birth Devil. Plus, it would make sense thematically for the strongest devil to represent the fear of being born into this world (kinda similar to the shtick Fire Punch had going on, in a way).

However, this reveal makes things a little more complicated, as it allows new speculation points to be discussed. Humans turn into trees when they reach the culmination of thought (a process Pochita erased and is only possible in Aging's pocket reality where death doesn't exist), and chainsaws are meant to cut trees.

Is this what Barem meant with Chainsaw Man's original purpose? To bring an end to those stuck in these state? Chainsaw Man is a force of motion: he always gets up, and his chainsaws need to revolve around themselves in order to cut. Is he like this because his original purpose was also to make sure the world doesn't stagnate, granting an ending to these people who already reached their conclusion, thus providing space for new life to exist and giving motion to the world?

At first I thought Aging's world was a reference to Dante's Seventh Circle of Hell, "The Wood of the Self-Murderers". I still don't discard it, but now I'm not so sure of where is Fujimoto trying to get to with this.

It looks like we'll have to wait at least a few more chapters to see what's Fujimoto cooking...

[sugar-grigri]

To regenerate Pochita, Denji decided to eat human flesh

But don't you wonder why Denji made Pochita hungry? I mean, does he need to be especially hungry to eat and regenerate in this state?

Hunger bound Pochita and Denji together, and as they ran, symbolically, Denji drew closer to Pochita as if to reach him.

Starving to death, escaping with human flesh - that was how they met.

And the best way for them to reconnect

The only one who shares your dreams, the only one who can save you when your heart is too heavy

It's your body

It's you

become who you are again, man and instrument, chainsaw man

[dolche-tejada]

Interesting to note that according to the Aging Devil, humans turning into trees isn't an ability of his but a natural process occuring when they live long enough to see their thoughts reaching some kind of culmination.

Which means those trees are basically a physical manifestation of our thoughts.

So going with that, does anyone else think it makes perfect sense that the Chainsaw Devil, whose gimmick rely on the tool most commonly associated to cutting trees... can actually cut thoughts and concepts out of people's minds ?

[bunkerjking]

[tukathewolf]

[jaruis]

Standing here

[lowpawly]

asa irl minecraft talent reveal

[quaint3]

Forever beating the stupid allegations! That's my boy !

[ummmlife]

i love my son and his dog so much

[dailyuh]

this was them this chapter.

[uousoupki]

i love moments like this where denji shows intelligence like sure it’s not conventional ig but HE EATSSSSS (literally)

[narutonkachi]

denjis solution: irl minecraft

[sugar-grigri]

CSM 185 : Denji doesn't have the privilege of growing old

Before, all Denji had to do was pull on the magic cable and he was cured. There he has to do it manually, run to starve himself, manually slaughter his prey, eat it for a long time, pull on the cable, which is more tiring...

Here, he needs to assist its regeneration. So… he doesn't regenerate ? He heals.

He does not regenerate in order to die again, in the service of others. He heals to live, for himself.

survival is what created Chainsaw Man

survival is measured by instinct, by the instant, by the essential

the demon of aging wants to stretch time, close to eternity, to push humanity to its extremes

so the demon of old age wanted Pochita to taste what represented him, that moment for him: children

sacrificing the moment for longevity

Pochita preferred to rely on the present moment, his sensations, not projections, his hunger, his essential, Denji

Pochita and Denji have answered the eternity equation with a hunger pact

You don't need more to go on living

growing up is difficult for Denji who survives

so obviously, not having even reached the age of 20, he won't wait for eternity to become a tree

it will make this existence trying to bring the equation back to its base, survival

reinventing the end of life is not so difficult

it's reaching an old age that is

[amjustgoose]

Wait just a goddamn second