#Dangender.

[sluttycinderella]

the beautiful rolling hills of the phandom at the moment

[transjudas]

#dangender (x, x, x)

[manchesterau]

dan drunk on younow in 2012 important update:

[goldenpinof]

she is a good girl gone bad

[chaosphil]

dan pronouns & identity discussions & other dangender moments x x

gotta give credit to @yonpote and @freckliedan for posting most of the clips and having great tagging systems to easily find everything <3

digifest x || podcast x || wad q&a transcript || vidcon post & video || younow

i was hoping to fit everything in one post but tumblr hates me posting videos so i’ll just keep adding to this

part two

[fagus-sylvatica-beech-hedge]

I don't know why hearing phil using she/her pronouns to refer to sister daniel is fucking me up so much but it is

[twunkbirthzey]

it's so funny that dnps twink asses cannot comprehend why sister daniel and phlonde phil together are a lesbian couple...

first, it's about dan's "angel" comment and it's direct association with religion ie. sister daniel but that's just the surface,

for me it's all about the performance. with sister daniel it's more obvious, it's literally a costume, somewhat a drag performance, where dan becomes this hyperfeminine version of herself with a different personality, which i think is something a lot of queer women/afab people can relate to. as an afab nb person myself i know all too well how we can curate this feminine persona to be safer in public, or just bc we think we have to be that way in society. on the other side, we took this idea, and obv with the immense effect of drag culture, made it a celebration. butler cooked so hard by sayng gender is a performance and a repetitive act, and sister daniel is a parodied celebration of this hyperfemininity, subverted in a way that both dan and us enjoy, embracing it through laughing at it a little bit, and learning love and celebrate femininity without patriarchal enforcement.

for phlonde phil, it's a bit more loreful i think. we've been calling phil a lesbian endearingly for such a long time, and even dan said this recently in a video. i think that comes from his unique expession of masculinity. phil has always been more confined in his gender roles, but not in a negative way he's just.. more masculine presenting than dan in terms of his haircuts and fashion choices etc. but ofc as a queer individual he's so much flexible in that, and accepting of everything even if he doesn't partake in it. we all know that phil is a softer person, which gives me flashbacks of "smol bean" shit that the phandom did back then, but it is true that he's more whimsical and stereotypically feminine in his personality. and then the phlonde phil pic dropped. (and my life changed) he looks... more curated. the croptop, the biker jacket, and the tilted pose are not what we normally see from phil. it's more performative. which is by no means used as a negative thing here. he's feeling himself and im in love w him but the point is he's projecting this edgier, more masculine aura, which mirrors the masc lesbian stereotype, the softer presence is still there, yet he chooses to look more edgy and is so happy doing it.

and putting the two next to each other you get a "stereotypical" butch/femme couple, both playing and bending heteronormative roles and looking sick as fuck while doing it. and it fills my heart with joy.

im not a lesbian myself but ive been queer for too long and i know a lesbian serve when i see one, and i love them, thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

[butchphan]

2014 -> 2024

[lesbiandanhowell]

Well yes

[gamora-borealis]

incoming dangender thoughts: the more I read up/watch the stuff dan has said about gender after BIG + reflect on what he said in BIG I'm like. y'all she really has been explicitly trying to tell us his gender IS formless blob (without making it a huge deal in the mainstream public eye), but so many people haven't actually been taking him seriously! like. labels are made up, dan has pretty much said as much before. why do we have to have a specific approved™ term to consider them genderqueer/nonbinary/trans? those are descriptive labels and dan has been using a fun descriptive label they created that he defined for us in BIG, a definition that matches up with those other labels! and dan has said since 2019 that he is comfortable with any pronouns even though he still mainly uses he/him. like, lately dan has been using more she/her and they/them for herself and experimenting with being more femme and/or androgynous in various ways, and what is changing is not even necessarily gender (although maybe who knows), but probably that dan is finally feeling more comfortable with different kinds of gender presentation and pronouns than she typically uses. because low-key gender is kind of a performance and it's scary to switch it up sometimes but dan feels safe doing so especially with their audience and I think that's actually really special 🧡 but moral of the story, dangender has actually been out in the open since 2019 and I wish more people picked up on that!

[thegirlinprague]

fuck cops but i need his ass arrested

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[danswideslit]

can we pls talk about how dan basically exclusively uses they/them about himself in third person <33333

[ahappydnp]

If dan was nb wouldn't that make phil bi (legit curious)

i don't want to get into any of the discourse but no it would not make him bi and his identity is his own outside of a partner's label

[manchesterau]

‘im back bitch changed my hair changed my gender meet the new me’

[strangeparadoxlikely]

idk of this makes sense to anyone else but would've, could've, should've is such a sister daniel song in my brain and someday i'll get around to writing that fic

like what do you mean 'if you'd never looked my way, i would've stayed on my knees, and I damn sure never would've danced with the devil at nineteen' no comment

'if you never touched me, i would've gone along with the righteous' but how are we supposed to believe in something bigger than ourselves when the feeling of your hand in mine makes me feel closer to heaven than a lifetime of prayers

'YOU'RE A CRISIS OF MY FAITH'

'i miss who I used to be, the tomb won't close' and 'if clarity's in death, then why won't this die?' with the idea of the tomb/death as the closet but also the consequence of being out of it at the same time

and like 'give me back my girlhood it was mine first' but not in a loss of innocence you made me grow up too fast way but in a i learned to be a girl by your side and i don't know how to perform gender when i'm not playing opposite you.

[sisterdaniels]

i forgot they dressed up in their dil and tabitha merch 😭💖