#Foundation and Earth

[haywardfreud]

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[boooklover]

“Common belief, even universal belief, is not, in itself, evidence.”

Isaac Asimov, Foundation and Earth

[rayfishandchips]

As a fandom we don't exploit the potential of the Far Star crew enough

as the title says. If you think about it the Far Star is literally:

32-year-old banished senator, A+ intuition, clotheshorse, would shag local political officials to continue his mission but disapproves of old man and young hive mind love.

Old man minor historian, nerd, divorced, in love with a woman half his age for some reason and lets her mind-fuck him with global hive mind stuff.

conventionally attractive female that's part of a global collective with overflowing motherly love. Also in love with old historian above. Can basically read minds.

a 14-year-old child they picked up on some planet.

a computer that the said banished senator is basically in love with (they hold hands mentally)

Seriously no one's doing it like Asimov. What a hell of a crew.

[waffle-sorter]

Come on, you two. This individual very clearly (and fairly politely) asked you not to use terms of address that would imply a gender. What are you doing "he"ing among yourselves?

[sunrisewithmist]

The end of foundation and earth is so disappointing

[chai-en-kaadhale]

started foundation and earth and its absolutely hilarious that the first bit was "ohmyfuckinggod i hate this fucking hivemind why did i come here i'm gonna dip" and then he does

[j-august]

He was at home nowhere, an orphan everywhere.

Isaac Asimov, Foundation and Earth

[positronicvisions]

Eto Demerzel, First Minister to Emperor Cleon I

[antinael]

*** S p o i l e r s ***

As part of my 2025 Foundation reread, it has become a tradition for me to write a review of each Foundation Series novel.

Hence, I am doing the same for "Foundation and Earth", although this review is shorter and lacks substance because I don't know what to write.

If I didn't read the Original Trilogy and Edge, I would like Earth more. But as things are, I am not very keen on Earth, mostly because I kept comparing it to the previous books.

Throughout my whole reread I felt taken down because I knew how Earth ends and all the things I love most about the series were long gone anyway.

My favorite thing about Earth is Trevize's transformation, from an easy going guy to a person tormented under the weight of his decision. I can sense a chosen one trope here, which is not my favorite trope.

The others were uninteresting to me. Bliss feels bland, but I guess all Gaians are like that (except for one), since individuality is nor exactly celebrated on Gaia. She has an excuse for manipulating others, but when someone else does the same thing it is bad, double standards all the way.

Pelorat was annoying with his inability to stick to the point when he talked, but maybe Asimov was paid by word and that could explain things.

How I wish the Foundation Series ended? I would have loved a Second Empire without the flaws of the first one, in a galaxy where the Second Foundation is defeated/disabled/deactivated by the First one.

If the First Foundation stands for freedom and individuality, the Second for peace and stability and Gaia for double standards life, as stated in Edge, I see the First one as the lesser evil.

Also: was Gaia invented just so that a robot doesn't feel guilty for violating the Zeroth Law? Did he kidnap a child just so that this prolongues his life enough to witness fully formed Gaia? Horrible ending for a wonderful series. Asimov, what were you thinking?

After my 2025 Foundation reread, it's time to give a final answer to the question of the year, of the millenium:

Did I find an other character , whom I love more than the Mule?

The answer is no.

I don't know what to read next, probably "Stars Like Dust", it has the first mention of a Visi-Sonor! (according to the internet)

[pomegranatecountry]

I Travelled Across an Entire Galaxy to a Mythical Location and Accidentally Found the Secret to Humanity on the "Moon"!? by Isaac Asimov

Contemporary Japanese light novels and classic American sci-fi are basically evil opposites when it comes to their titling conventions: both titles will be long and rambling, but the former will be a prosaically descriptive phrase that lays out the story's entire premise, while the latter will be a line from a poem the author liked that tells you absolutely fucking nothing.

[boinky-doinky]

It’s super unfinished but I’m never gonna fix it 💀💀

[boooklover]

“If you wish to call the truth impossible, that is your privilege, but it will get you nowhere.”

Isaac Asimov, Foundation and Earth

[faeriefully]

no, girl im fine— I’m just crying over the gospel again

[waffle-sorter]

Hold on there. You have proposed that these space stations might have been abandoned for many thousands of years. But is that plausible, given that you found them because they're radiating heat?

[sunrisewithmist]

So in the novel we can accept I/we/Gaia as a pronoun but then they're not able to accept a they/them? I see how it goes