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#I've seen it all anon. I've experienced it all. doubt and anger and all that. I'm old now.
mrthomasdoherty · 3 years
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Arghh I accidentally read some anti-klaine ship and my brain kinda started malfunctioning and rn I can't enjoy their relationship like I used to... I mean every time I try,the thoughts that constantly pop in my mind are about their cheating incidents (Chandler and Eli) and how other canon couples didn't cheat and I am like so mad at writers cause rn it looks like I just stopped shipping them because of this stupid rant about their worse moments.... I am mad though cause they were my OTP and I still wanna enjoy then,but because of that rant I feel like I can't... what should I do? Did it ever happen to you?
No other canon couples....cheated? You mean Rachel never cheated with Puck while dating Finn. Or how Brittany cheated on Artie with Santana. Or how Quinn cheated on Sam with Finn. Or how Finn cheated on Quinn with Rachel. Or how Rachel never cheated on Brody with Finn. Or how Quinn cheated on Finn with Puck. Hell even Mercedes kissed Sam when she was dating another guy! 🤔
But then again all those couples immediately owned up to it when it happened, they didn't keep it from their significant other...right? Rachel putting blame on Finn when she told him and he broke up with her "you said you'd never break up with me". 10/10, healthiest couple for sure! How Santana manipulated Brittany into thinking different plumbing makes it okay and suddenly Brittany was the victim when Artie confronted her about her cheating. HOW DARE ARTIE, HE MADE THE INFANT CRY! Or how Quinn didn't know if she was in love with Sam or Finn so she couldn't make up her mind, so she continued toying with both of them. Because #girlboss! Fuck them guys feelings, they're not human! And how Finn couldn't make up his mind on if he wanted Rachel or Quinn, including toying with Rachel's emotions when he thought Quinn was pregnant with his child just for the sake of her getting back into glee. IT'S FOR THE GREATER GOOD, good thinking Finn! Maybe you'll get a harem out of it! Rachel thinking she was knocked up with Finn's child while Brody was blissfully unaware (or "unaware"). AND OH, she wasn't pregnant so let's just sweep it under the rug like it never happened because haha. Or how Quinn told Finn it was his baby and not Puck's. That was goals for me tbh. (Did Mercedes' own up right away to her bf? I'm blanking)
...But sure, Klaine's Eli and Chandler debacle is positively the worst of every couple on glee. Blaine and Kurt never grew into better people or had talks about it to advance forward. Kurt never stated that he chose to trust Blaine. They never even joked about Eli (or Chandler if the body swap counts) or even cheating to make light of such a traumatic event. Because you know, going through something awful like being cheated on where your trust is chipped away, having the comfortability to mention it in a light manner so it just becomes a story of the past instead of a bitter memory that silently never gets talked about again, is definitely not healthy coping mechanisms to growth together. Nope! They sure don't do that!
No couple, fictional or real, is going to have a clean slate (that's boring, this isn't a Disney couple and I like it that way - as a writer the angst fuels me). Is cheating the "ideal" couple goals to have for an OTP? Of course not. But holding it against a couple when there is signs of growing through and past with forgiveness from both ends sounds exhausting and bitter. Whatever this "anti-klaine" post logic is that made you sit back and second guess yourself, there are even more "pro-klaine" posts that will bring up different even more logical reasonings as to why we enjoy klaine. If you're struggling, that's fine, and very healthy to sit back and pick things apart so you can think for yourself. But it's not healthy to dwell on the negative either and ignore all the growth the couple did together and apart. Of course I struggled with it when it happened in season 4, but clearly Kurt isn't letting it dictate their relationship, and neither is Blaine. So I'm good, anon, I'm good. I'm enjoying seeing all the times Kurt was happy with Blaine before and after Eli and Chandler. I'm enjoying the knowledge they have a kid together. I'm enjoying their happy old couple married life being canon and not just a headcanon.
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hedgethemaze · 2 years
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You always bring great korrasami art on my dash!! So I was wondering what your favourite korrasami fics would be?
Aw, thanks^^ But I can't take that credit (never have, never will). It's not me who 'brings' the Korrasami art, it's the artists - whom I always tag first in my reblogs 😁
But see? this is why rebloging/sharing is so important, to spread others' talent and make it seen by more people that like it as well. And to credit the right source is equally important so - as much as I aprecciate the compliment (at least, I take it as such) - please, let the real creators know how much you like and appreciate their work.
That would make me really happy 😄
Okay anon, you asked for it! Long answer ahead because you just asked about my favs and I'm such a broken record about'em!
Also, I apologize in advance because this is going to look like fic recs and I don't know if you asked for that, specifically. But these ARE, indeed, some of my most favorite korrasami works (as for as fanfiction is concerned lol)
From the top of my head this are the ones I can't stop reading (a.k.a. I've read more than once)
It goes without saying, lanagotconed20's Road Trip series is at the top of that list. Specifically, I remember part 9 , 'All In, All Yours' being one I almost know by heart💘 but seriously, you can't go wrong with ANY of Lana's stories. They're all fantastic, and I actually did a ranking of her works to date (the complete ones, at least) a few months back, here
@hohfics Marriage or Bust has 2 complete works (same universe different paths) and damn, what masterpieces!🤩
I couldn't possibly decide between them because both are incredibly well written and convey so much emotion! Plus, there's moments on both stories that get your heart racing (either because of how intensely romantic or frightening they are) But from the two I have to give a shoutout to 'The Honeymooners' for being the very first Korrasami fic I ever read - a really high bar that I'm elated to know has been met by many great authors!
ireallyshouldnt_behere's 'Would you risk it ALL?' is a doctor au, with Korra being a cancer patient and it's fine if you're not into that but, just so you know, amongst the medical drama aspect of it there's many fun and heart warming moments and quite the satisfying ending - well, technically not an ending since is the first part of a series, but it's not complete, and the second part hadn't hooked me as much as this one. But the author has other korrasami works you may want to check out 😉
The Seeking Balance trilogy by @simplykorra is the best canon-divergence fic I've read! The way Korra's struggles and traumas are depicted through these stories (specially, the first two parts is MIND. BLOWING. and though I couldn't recommend one story more than the others (the journey is best experienced from start to finish), there's something so heart wrenching about the second part, 'Relapse' (as if the tittle didn't pull you in deeply enough) that just makes me point it out - if only to read Korra's parting letter to Asami at the end of that story. It squeezes my heart every time I read it and I can only imagine Asami's anger, sadness and fear as she reads it.
This is without a doubt my favorite 'what if' korrasami fic and I can't thank the author enough for the way it turned out! 😄👏
Last, but not least, my latest discovery/obsession is *drum rolls* @greatestchange Roll with the Punches series, it isn't complete (yet) but there's tons of top-notch content amongst the 10 works it has written by now. It is my latest reading and it easily skyrocketed to the top of my fav korrasami works, I'm still in shock!🤯
But this series comes with a *warning sign* as it is the most painful, intense, gut-punching stuff I've ever read. Some of these works, e.g the main tittled story, and the ones I'm about to be mentioned are basically "angst turned up to 11".
I gave a brief description of my experience reading that one here, if you want better understand what I think/feel about it (my opinion holds up to this day!) plus, you can check out my rwtp tag for some really good art and a few highlighted passages of certain chapters that got to me very deeply.
One tip though, I can't recommend enough that you read the main RWTP first before reading certain other works, namely 'Senna', 'Nebraska', 'The Offer', 'Family Reunion' and 'Shattered' (all in that order).
But in case you want to read some of the 'lighter' ones (and I use that word loosely because they're all intense in some way or another), some I really enjoyed reading, besides the unskippable ones are 'Say You'll Be There', 'The Assistant' and 'The Fire Place'(ch. 7 of Afterward, which is a collection of snippets). These latter works are one-shots but give you a good taste of the main story without being the main story.
I know, I know, that's a lot of reading but I really hope you get around to check at least some of these and maybe leave a comment on them. Let the authors know of your thoughts, they all deserve to know how much they're appreciated and a simple 'I love this story/your work' are never small words!
And I should've said this before, but since I don't know how old you are, please check the rating and tags of the stories since there's very mature stuff in there.
Road Trip, I think is the more PG of these literary creations, and by far the one with the most fluff out of these, but honestly - with over 30 works made - it has something to please all kinds of tastes. Though, is not excent of explicit content. But trust me, it's absolutely NOT in bad taste and very organic.
RWTP, I'd say is the extreme opposite with almost zero room for 'fluff' and, by FAR, the most mature series of them all (it deals with lots of heavy topics), but while most of the time you get pain instead of pleasure, the moments you spot the latter are that much, much sweeter, and in my experience they're more than worth it to reach!
And as far as AU's go, those two along with Marriage or Bust, are must-reads for any Korrasami shipper.
Thanks for writing, sorry it took me this long to answer😅 And I hope you enjoy your reading, anon! 👋
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a discussion of jabberwock with team interaction hcs + deeper nash analysis
for anon who asked "Can we get some headcanons for jabberwock members or like headcanons when they're together? (its okay if it was jason or nash only)" and made me realise it's about time i get these guys' personalities down
note before we start: cause i didn't know their names until i wrote this
zack is the bald one, allen is the one with a headband, nick is the other white guy apart from nash.
team hcs
nick gets bullied for being under 6ft, but not by jason
nah good old jason teases all of them for being short fucks, emphasising that they’re all 5ft tall in comparison to him
he 100% lifts things out of the others' reach and then laughs for ages after when they try get them
unfortunately though, they’re all used to this and now just ignore him. either that or nash stares at him so intensely jason actually repents and hands it back
zack’s another one with a very good glare, but he’s used it too often on jason and it’s since stopped working.
also jason gives me ‘straightens his back as much as possible when getting measured so he’ll measure in as 7ft’ vibes
oh and he thinks he could wrestle a gator and win. i’ve got no explanation for that except for the fact you can't tell me it's ooc.
allen’s very protective over his white headband - it’s his lucky item - but he’d never let anyone know that
he’s confident in his abilities like the rest of them, but there’s nothing wrong with wearing a headband just in case
(nash knows anyway)
they watch nba matches together and do not shut up once throughout the entire match - lots of jeering, booing each other if someone criticises a player they like, lots of “i could do that”, lots of “get your fucking hand out of my popcorn do you want me to punch you in the face” etc
they used to all live together, but nash has since moved out. he was sick and tired of trying to make people do chores, as the only one who kept their room clean.
yeah the others’ house looks like a heap of trash but also very much “where’s my toothbrush?” “it’s in the third coke can by the orange peel behind the sink” *silence* “yeah thanks” *a minute later* “who the fuck has been using my toothbrush”
they’re all “bro your dribbling sucks why are you on this team loser” to one another, but also very protective (aka arrogant for one another) if anyone else Dared to criticise one of their teammates
then again, what kind of person would criticise jabberwock
half of the time he spends with jabberwock, nash is a Single Mother TM trying to get a bunch of man children to behave; the other half of the time, he's just as bad as the rest of them
i talk about this a lot but i get the feeling nash is an exceptionally hard worker, but at least he gets to let his hair down around his teammates sometimes
nash is also the only person jason thought was truly ‘strong’ at first sight
and nash is also the only person who can beat jason in a fight, and also the only person who can get nash to train, and also the only person who can.. [etc. you see my point].
(n.b jason calls himself the ‘almighty me’, nash says that ‘even god can’t beat me’. point made.)
you know how jason silver’s motto is “I have never thought”
imagine him proudly stating that, before zack adds with a straight face, “yeah cause nash does it for you.”
in short, the team would fall apart without nash.
although the team’s communication and coordination is very fine tuned, nash is the guy who keeps everything in order off the court to prevent what is essentially a team of aces ('main characters', if you will) from falling apart
they hang out together a lot, but do all have other friend groups that do not overlap
team bbqs
unofficial rule not to criticise anchovies on pizza because the one time nick did, nash snapped
however pineapple on pizza is fair game, even though zack quite likes it
more than once, jason has brought a girl home and nick has stolen her attention away with effortless trick shots, funky ball manoeuvring etc
more than once nick has had to trek to nash’s place (with a black eye) at midnight to have somewhere to sleep
do you see a correlation?
oh and everyone in the team has been walked in on by nash when they were naked with some girl
nash has absolutely no shame
he apologises to the girl with a charming albeit insincere tone, and then remains standing in front of the bed/couch until his teammate does what he expected of them
usually it involves not having come to practice
allen learnt a few (emphasis on ‘few’) words of japanese before they travelled to japan and was disappointed that he never got to use them
that said, one of those words was hentai
and now a quick analysis of some panels
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a) so there's at least one player who wasn't underestimating vorpal swords. if i were to overanalyse, i'd add that nick's wearing a hoodie (possibly athletic wear) whilst nash has a 'fancy' shirt on; perhaps nick wasn't expecting them to be going to host clubs instead of chilling/training?
b) i know what you're thinking: "how can you say nash is a hard worker when he didn't want to practice for the match". i reckon he was still pretty high on the complete and utter success of their previous match, that plus being around girls, encouraged him to have a more 'jason-y' personality. (either that or fujimaki didn't want to add too much depth/realism into nash's character bc he's unequivocally the villain, right? and obviously this helps with the plot and the jabberwock bad geniuses gom good geniuses rhetoric.)
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earlier, i mentioned how nash is the only one that could keep the team together, and is thus the undeniable head of the team; here's a clear example. you can see both jason and zack have no interest in continuing - if anything, there's disgust in their faces, kinda just saying "we spat on all of japan, now we can go home". whereas nash won't allow for the slightest of possibilities that there might exist a team stronger than them, and hence agrees to the match. the key thing here is that the others do as he says without too much fuss.
another thing to note is nash's reference to harakiri. now what can we make of that, alongside his proficiency in japanese, in relation to his character? the way i see it, he's either a weeb or possibly has some japanese lineage. (you could spin that even further and say his mother was japanese, taught him the language, then abandoned him, and hence his almost excessive hatred/mockery of the japanese people.) (is that why he wanted to do another match in japan..?)
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just a quick point. "thanks to him" - jason isn't so superior as to think that he could win this match effortlessly without nash's support. links pretty nicely with my earlier idea about how nash is the only person jason has always considered 100% strong.
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yet another point about how nash is the strongest of the team in pretty much every way you can think of. you know how scary/powerful you have to be to shut jason up (after he's getting real pissed from being prevented from scoring?)
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i personally think this is a pretty important panel, though i've never seen anyone mention it before. did nash grow up training in a professional basketball training situation, as opposed to growing up playing streetball like i suspect the others did? well, to answer that question, imma bring in another panel.
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here we see visible rage on nick, zack and jason's faces - they can't accept their loss, which is fair enough. but i'd argue that nash's face seems to depict sadness more than it does anger like to rest of them, look at how downturned his mouth is - and he's looking away from the 'camera', as if hiding his shame.
when you combine that with what he says here, i have no doubt that this is someone who has experienced some proper lows in basketball - as would be expected from someone who's played 'properly'. he's possibly not even a prodigy like the rest of them - compare jason's motto with his. "i have never thought" versus "do not suppose opportunity will knock twice at your door".
there's various lines of thinking you could design with this - he might have been trained by alex (hence, himuro having heard of jabberwock, though he should have known of a team as popular of jabberwock regardless), he might have grown up with professional basketballer parents etc. but here's my own little theory:
nash received serious basketball training from early on - maybe because his parents were living vicariously through him, or maybe he always loved the sport and wanted to be no1. so there he was training away, but, as he grew older, it started getting all a bit too much.
he didn't want to dedicate his entire life to basketball. after all, his hobby is water sports and his speciality is boxing; that's a lot of different things to be keeping up with, whereas the pipeline for promising athletes demands people focus solely on basketball. as a result, nash become bitter: stopped attending practice regularly, got in trouble for trash talk of increasing severity, etc.
result was he was kicked out of the program.
only when he was no longer playing basketball again, did he realise how much he missed it. and hence he got into streetball, where he was tremendously successful as someone with so much training, 'elite skills', and the overly confident attitude to boot.
then, one fateful day, he met jason and the rest is history.
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supertunanana · 3 years
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Saw this in the Jikook tag and thought I'd add what I have seen. What I've seen isn't that people think they're fighting or broken up even though I'm sure there's a lot of that going on but for some they now believe Jikook were never a couple and are just close friends and they feel foolish for buying into blogs that have their own theories that Jimin and Jungkook are an actual romantic couple. Not entirely sure why this NY trip and middle half of 2021 in general have people changing their minds but I guess only they know. It happens every so often but this time I've seen people make permanent changes to their accounts whether it's on here or another sm platform. I just know some are comparing those blogs to the one who shall not be named in the other toxic shipper base. It's not that they see Jikooker blogs as toxic and horrible as that other person but that these Jikook blogs offer their own brand of manipulation only this time using facts instead of lies. No idea if that made any sense lmao How do I put it? Like taking events that have happened and making them out to be a bigger deal than they actually are which in turn gets other people to go "Really? I didn't see it that way but these people are older and wiser and maybe see things clearer than I do" then gifs or clips are usually provided and it all becomes pretty convincing. The thing is no one knows if they're a couple. Could they be? Yeah sure. Could they just be close friends with their own set of personal boundaries? Absolutely. When someone tries to offer up that suggestion to many Jikook blogs, they don't want to discuss that most of the time. Personally I've seen anons suggest a close friendship and are met with comments that that anon must not be experienced enough or anyone who can't see that Jimin and Jungkook are in a relationship must be blind or are choosing to ignore what's right in front of them. That's messed up. That's acting as if the opinion that they're dating is no longer just an opinion. I can see how that can be a mild form of toxicity in itself. Nobody has the right to belittle somebody because they share a different opinion. Even after this NY trip, I've seen many Jikook blogs erupt in anger, calling anons stupid and ridiculous for having doubts or changing their minds and coming to their own conclusions that Jikook aren't a couple but close friends. It's odd to see "Why does no longer car sharing convince you they're not dating?" When actually we've never known if they are to begin with so someone changing their minds over something that's never been confirmed in the first place isn't a problem or "stupid". Maybe the reasons for changing their minds might seem a bit hasty but they're still allowed to change their minds. So yeah I see people are feeling foolish for believing these blogs who hold the opinion they're dating and I think in time the negative feelings will fade away and I have already seen some move on from those types of Jikook blogs and make changes. Perhaps they'll be able to enjoy BTS content without worrying about Jikook's status? As for me, I've never believed they were a romantic couple to begin with but their relationship whatever it is in reality has me aww'ing so that's why I follow Jikook tag. Their interactions are very cute. Sorry for rambling on so much!
You're good, Anon. And I agree with most everything you've said! However, I'm not so convinced they aren't a romantic couple, but then again, I'm not convinced they are. As I told a friend, I'm pretty agnostic about this (and as an actual Agnostic in the religious sense, that's on brand, lol). I'm pretty bad about seeing things in black and white. I used to, but then law school happened, and I've mellowed out a lot (which is ironic, because I think most of my fellows only got stronger in their opinions, lol! IDK I think my ENTJ is slowly dying into an ENTP; the world has beaten me down into seeing the gray). But I don't really worry too much about it. I did at one point, simply because I think it's human nature to want absolutes, to want labels and definitions especially when something is "other" or "unusual", but I got over it. Do I think they do some suspicious things that make me raise an eyebrow and question them? Yes. Does this definitively make them a couple? No. Will my world fall apart if they are just friends with weird boundaries? No. I understand those blogs that are CONVINCED seem a bit dismissive of doubts, and I envy their conviction. I think they feel they are seeing a truth and supporting/defending a truth that is screaming to break free. That Jikook ARE IN FACT a couple, desperate to be seen as such, but muted by their careers and the socio-political climate of where they live. And I am sympathetic to that. It's why I cannot simply dismiss Jikook as NOT being a couple or forcing heteronormative expectations on them. If they are, I do indeed see signs, and I support them if it's true. BUT, that often leads to looking at a lot of what they do with confirmation bias. That is, you believe your hypothesis "they are a couple hiding in plain sight", so everything they do or say supports this hypothesis, and I find that equally faulty. I see some Jikookers who get just as silly about Jimin and JK being near each other or looking at each other as Taekookers. Sure, they'll spin a more eloquent web using those odd and unusual things that make me side-eye ("SE") to support this, but it often boils down to the same thing. Not everything Jimin and Jungkook do equates to some magical, romantic relationship! I get that they are often trying to cite patterns of behavior (eg JK gravitates towards Jimin) which could be seen as innocuous and BFF stuff and then couple it with "SE" stuff (eg JK sucks on Jimin's ear) to give more meaning to the former as being more romantic and legit than a Taekooker possibly citing similar, but it's not. Not fully. I know the BEST romantic relationships have partners who are BFFs, but that doesn't mean that BFF behavior equates to a romantic relationship. Or even the "SE" behavior equates to a romantic relationship (as you said, it could be BFF's with weird boundaries - I've made out with a few of my friends and I was in no way attracted to them physically or romantically). It's not the transitive property of relationships here. So, that's where I see more wiggle room, that's where I think a lot of people question or have doubts, but that's where these blogs are so convinced. I don't necessarily think they're trying to be rude (but they can be and that sucks), but I think they're just stuck in their confirmation bias loop. They are convinced and they use the strength of that conviction to put emphasis on a lot of things. I don't think they're trying to manipulate anyone, because they genuinely believe it, and that's where they can be dismissive when questioned. And again, I don't think they're inherently wrong, but I also don't think they're inherently right, either. I will say, that if ANY pairing in BTS were to be legit, Jikook have the strongest argument, but it doesn't mean they are (but it also doesn't mean they aren't). And that's ok, to me at least. I'm fine living in the gray and seeing Jikook as each other's person, regardless of what that fully entails. They have a beautiful relationship, they make each other better people, and as my double biases (Jin is my bias wrecker - my chaos trio!), that makes me happy.
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Hello, thank you for your response. I'm sorry for all the mistakes I made in those asks, and yes, I've been considering en 9, with 7 and 3 or 4. It's true that I'm avoid unpleasant situations, but I find that anger is one of my strongest emotions, that I'm always avare of, and feel guided by, however strange that may sound. I read that 9s may not know that they are mad, and that does not sound like me. (1/)
I will ask you to bear with me for a little bit more, and see if I can find something useful. I have little to no doubts that I am a sensor, and a feeler. I am really defensive about my logic and thoughts, and I tend to keep quiet cause I'm afraid I'll sound stupid and incompetent and someone will harshly criticise my thoughts. That's why I try to self correct or point out myself if I said something not rational, so others would not do that for me. As I mentioned, I'm afraid of (2/)
being seen as incompetent, cause that's how I feel all the time. I'm not good with knowing how the world works, but I'm good with gathering info. That's what I like to do. I started learning a language because I liked its writing system and I want to understand it, to read a book in it. I like studying, going to lectures and soaking up all that that the teacher is giving, saying. But I remember just a broad scope of the information, the one that somehow stayed in my mind. (3/)
As you see, I don't use English meticulously and precisely by the rules, I know it, I use it, but secretly I am worst that I think I am. The most important thing is that I understand, and I may or may not loose some or a lot of details in the process. Now to the sensing part. I can't really tell if my experiences are objective, as I previously used to think. I'll add a little bit about who I am here. It used to be a big question in my life. A daughter, a student, a woman, all these (4/)
Seemed to fit me, they were too narrow, except from an understanding that I'm a human being. I think that the only thing that can really define me is the person I ma now, not words, not definitions, but an experience of me. Yesterday I was different, tomorrow I will be. The only constant here is me, but I can't really put that in words, so that's why I don't know who I am. I wouldn't say I make my decisions on previous experiences, but it's nice if I already dealt with that and know (5/)
Where this could be headed. Do I consciously recall my experiences and use them? I don't know. Let's say at this point I'd really like 3 new earholes for new earrings. I think it looks cool, I think it would add a little more visual interest to my ears, and I've experienced small metal shining earrings look better on me than bigg ones. Also I think it looks cool.I can remember the place and the day I got my ears pearced the first time. I can see in my mind clips from that moment (6/)
Would I connect earpiercing with that experience? No, I think I have a stronger connection to the aesthetics and it looking cool than to that place, that experience, the sudden pain of the piercing. There was an example about what do red dress means and why. I thought about that I've seen women wear these dresses for dates. Red menas passion. I never had a red dress, I had blue, but I don't even like dresses. In general dresses mean special occasions in my life, but that's universal (7/7)
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Hi anon,
You actually sound far more intuitive to me. This is all extremely abstract and philosophically-leaning from my perspective - the idea that the self cannot be described, the feeling that a single word like “daughter” must be a thing to encompass the whole of you instead of a simple descriptor that describes an aspect, the connection of an experience to aesthetics instead of vice versa, and so on. From the last ask I felt like you seemed insufficiently focused on the future to have healthy Ni, but the idea that your dreams must come to fruition as envisioned, rather than making a contingency plan (Si/Ne axis) or making the best of the here and now (Se), is far more typical of Ni than any other perceiving function. There’s also a lot here about getting the essence rather than the details, and while it’s important to get both, I have to focus on what you yourself focused on.
I don’t have a strong sense of Te vs. Fe from these, and additionally between the two series of questions there’s a lot of things that seem very much in flux. I think there’s a general strong focus on how you are seen by others, which makes me lean towards Fe, but I’m not confident enough to say.
Enneagram 9 is still absolutely possible. Some 9s don’t realize they are angry, but some do (9w8s in particular) and a lot of this and the previous question seemed to fit the lower end of average health 9s, specifically the following:
“Begin to minimize problems, to appease others and to have ‘peace at any price.’ Stubborn, fatalistic, and resigned, as if nothing could be done to change anything. Into wishful thinking, and magical solutions.”
So, tentatively, high Ni and 9w8, maybe with Fe.
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