#Madness: Project Nexus
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christnarr · 11 days ago
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jeb and phobos relationship interpretation/analysis
sorry if its a bit aimless its rewritten from several discord messages from the past few years
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all of this provides screenshots of canon evidence to back it up
overall warning for abusive situations and heavy themes
first i want to get into the way nexus scientists as a whole were treated:
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theres a few things that stand out to me here, on what scientists are expected not to do:
"-any interaction with outsiders", implying nexus scientists are either heavily monitored when they interact with people outside the nexus or theyre just not allowed to at all
-they cant have "unusual feelings of rage, hostility, depression". pretty self explanatory
the tower guards also have no problem using physical force against you in the cutscenes
if employees are fired or quit, they are killed:
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phobos only refers to jeb with his first name in the professional setting rather than christoff, adding to the lack of respect phobos has for him
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(as much as this often goes both ways with jeb using "phobos" when hes mad, i bring this up as a point in the piling evidence suggesting the dynamic between them is built on control, disrespect, and dehumanization. if you ask me the contexts of phobos using "jebediah" vs jeb using "phobos" are completely different in their own way, but i wanted to say that anyways to clear it up)
just from the science tower cutscene alone we see how much degrading language phobos uses towards jeb too
^= if you want to get into theory territory, theres also the flavor text for postfall jebs labcoat:
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"ablating damage from harsh language" huh
another two lines that are super important to me:
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1. phobos says that jeb does as he says until the day phobos releases him to the other place, essentially saying jeb is under phoboses control for life, until phobos decides to kill jeb himself.
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2. phobos says he picked jeb up from the wastes of nevada and set him on his path. this line will be brought up a lot later for different reasons
this establishes the amount of control phobos really has over jeb and the other scientists, the way he treated/punished them, and what working at the nexus means; its a lifelong commitment thats meant to be your purpose, and for a lot of people it wasnt even a choice. its implied that ultimately this was the case for jeb, given that employees are killed upon termination of employment. jeb may have been passionate about his work, but he still wasnt allowed to leave. he deserved the choice, regardless if he would have taken it or not.
with this in mind i imagine that jeb himself was labeled as "defiant" given how much of a control freak he is, how he speaks up about his grievances with phoboses decisions and any idea he doesnt agree with;
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thus making him much more isolated from the general society than the rest of the scientists. in my mind this is why we dont see him in nevada central during arena mode like we do crackpot and hofnarr. jeb has more restrictions placed on him since hes perceived as more likely to reveal company secrets, rally people against the nexus, etc.
so this amount of control, pressure, isolation was particularly harsher for him. which gets into my next point:
phobos played a hand in shaping "the savior"
i think phobos in some way planted the seeds for the future motives of every head scientist we see. he plays a very strong narrative force in mpn even after his death, which is what i like about him.
in jebs case its the expectation of being nexus city/nevadas savior. his intentions from the very beginning were to save the world:
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jeb and the other scientists were put on a pedestal in the form of propaganda to the city
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he genuinely feels above people and that its his purpose to save them because thats what he was told his entire life.
and jeb was given significant pressure to be perfect and not to make any mistakes
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"do whatever it takes, jebediah"
i like to think that outlook stuck with him
jeb had this idea that his purpose is to save the world instilled into him for years. not only that, but he found out that it was all for nothing. being the person he is, of course he would want to take matters into his own hands. be the savior he was always meant to be. trying to claim hes broken free of the past, when subconsciously hes shaping his identity around it. whether he likes it or not, his time at the nexus clearly carried into his present worldview. he still holds onto the belief that his purpose is to save nevada.
and with all the pressure he had, he has this aversion to accepting criticism or accepting that he failed. you can hear this directly in his death voicelines. if he fails, he has no purpose anymore. to this day jeb is averse to criticism and deflects it. when doc tells him project nexus is still alive, he refuses to believe his efforts were for nothing and he snaps at them.
jeb also takes after phobos in his mannerisms and speech patterns. even uses of specific phrases like calling the main three "gentlemen" and using the same animations.
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hell, jeb even has the binary sword, which he took from phobos, as his main weapon. he literally uses something belonging to phobos to enact his self-proclaimed purpose. that in itself symbolizes how deeply intertwined jebs newfound purpose is with what phobos expected of him. you just cant separate the two. jeb now embodies someone he swore to destroy.
and with the way jeb uses hofnarr and sheriff to further his goals, whether theyre good-intentioned or not, it can be seen as a trauma cycle. once jeb spirals into this savior mindset, other people are just gears in his plan to save nevada. jeb very often reflects the actions and mannerisms of phobos, and with the context that jeb was under phoboses control for most of his upbringing, it becomes clear that phobos was the one who imprinted on him. it obviously doesnt mean jeb isnt responsible for his own actions, he most certainly is. but its fun to shed light on where this all could have stemmed from.
overall to me jebs a pretty interesting example of how unhealed trauma and abuse can shape you into a bitter, terrible person if left to fester (definitely not always the case, of course v_v;;). jeb doesnt want to heal and refuses to look inward and see his flaws because of his bad experiences with making mistakes, so he only gets worse as the series progresses. its cool to explore what that does to someone and theres a lot of potential on the dynamic between jeb and phobos that i really love. i hope you like my post too, its been years in the making ^_^
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sparrowchute · 1 year ago
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Happy pride month!!!! I provide nothing but doodles im sorry in advance
(I use she/her for both Hofnarr and Gonne, pls be respectful of that in tags/reblogs!!)
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nevadancitizen · 1 year ago
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moved house recently and the movers literally destroyed my insect display case and the specimens inside so i drew the sillies with the insects i think would represent them best to soothe the pain. explanation below the cut (be warned, it’s long and so so fucking nerdy)
(+ sanford bombardier beetle follow-up)
okay so first is doc with a madagascar hissing cockroach. despite cultural connotations, cockroaches are some of the smartest insects (up there with bees, wasps, and termites (which they share an order with — blattodea)), and doc is nothing if not the brains of SQ. madagascar hissing cockroaches are some of the few insects that stay with their offspring for a long while, therefore protecting them. doc is also protective of his men in a somewhat similar fashion, albeit from a distance and behind a cold, stern demeanor. also these roaches can’t fly, and doc can’t drive. there’s a joke in there somewhere but i can’t find it.
then we’ve got hank with an assassin bug. there’s not really any notable species within the family, so it’s just supposed to be a general insect within reduviidae (but not an ectoparasite). some assassin bugs transmit chagas disease, which is mostly always unwanted and detrimental, much like hank’s presence to anyone outside of SQ (or within the SQ, because hank’s loyalty mostly just faults to his own bloodlust). assassin bugs also have one of the most painful insect bites but, unlike hank, they use chemicals (injected via proboscis) to induce pain rather than ripping and tearing. still, the end result is the same.
obviously, what else would sanford have other than a hercules beetle? they’re one of the strongest insects (as evidenced by the horns on their head and prothorax), and sanford is, unarguably, the strongest grunt of the SQ. male hercules beetles use their horns to grapple and fight (both for territory and mates), and sanford also uses very melee-heavy tactics while fighting. they also use their horns to leverage and throw their opponents, and sanford uses his hook with similar tactics. these beetles are very hardy (due to their exoskeleton and hardened elytra) just like sanford, despite his usual lack of clothing and armor.
lastly, there’s deimos and the australian tiger beetle. they’re known as the fastest species of tiger beetle (up to 9 km/h or 5.6 mph) and — not sure if this is canon or a universally accepted headcanon — deimos is the fastest grunt of the SQ. these beetles run so fast and hunt so aggressively that their sensory system literally can’t keep up and their eyes shut off, so they have to stop often (for just a fraction of a second) to regain their faculties, which gives their prey several chances to escape. this reflects in deimos through his jokey demeanor and tendency to not take things seriously until it’s too late. thankfully, the australian tiger beetle is only listed as “near threatened” on the red list, unlike deimos, who is totally fucking dead.
thank you for coming to my ted talk which is just me smushing my two special interests together like a child mixing play-doh
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datexpunged · 1 year ago
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sure ill post this here too
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beemers-hell · 10 months ago
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wwww w w w when do you ppppp plan on drawing ssss shshsh shhs sheriff again..... *blinks,,* 👉👈 my wife
he looks a lot scruffier than I remember!
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moonamite · 3 months ago
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Didn’t think I could actually do it but here’s my redesigned Employers 😭
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And close ups
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wouldobjectumsavethem · 3 months ago
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DR. HOFNARR from MADNESS: PROJECT NEXUS 2
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REASONING:
"To not go insane and turn into a masochistic zombie clown, give that gal an object wife"
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rainbowcatmint · 1 year ago
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And Madness Combat again. Some pairing stuff. Because I like them so much.
This is about the headcannon that Christoff has a bad thermoregulation and very easily gets cold. So... I guess.. Nice?
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32lice · 2 years ago
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girl help i’m getting mixed signals girl 911 girl
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notmedicine13 · 2 months ago
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NOT LONG FOR NEVADA
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Inspired by this one screenshot I saw
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siwy-3 · 2 months ago
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really shit "tier list" i did out of boredom
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i may have missed a few. i used this tierlist maker
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christnarr · 2 months ago
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come around here often? (referring to their mutual workplace and residence of 30 years)
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mushroom-person · 5 months ago
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i only play peak games
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nevadancitizen · 1 year ago
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something something harmony not being allowed to participate in turf wars because she’s a sea anemone and deimos going in her stead and actually killing someone
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datexpunged · 1 year ago
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another phoobster for u guys..... *slides it over like a plate of food*
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moonamite · 3 months ago
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Do you think Nevada Central has like a drug trade? We know grunts can smoke but imagining a grunt trying to do a line with no nose is so funny 😭
Do they have speakeasies? Strip clubs? (Just humor me and pretend like grunts aren’t canonically naked 24/7) I mean given how violent their world is, drugs and sex stuff probably aren’t too out of the question. If anything they’re tame in comparison to the carnage.
The only club we see is Club Advent run by the VendeVice Syndicate, where there’s (presumably) alcohol, if the bar is any indicator. The VendeVice’s thing is smuggling contraband, and while this is most likely referring to the absurd amount of ammo they have, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some other stuff.
But logically they’re probably limited in the amount of drugs they have since Nevada is a wasteland. The soil is probably too dry and barren to grow cannabis or the coca plant or poppies. But then again, they do have cigarettes, so maybe I’m thinking too hard.
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