I’m on a “reassess all my pets’ diets” kick at the moment and I’m being reminded that commercial crested gecko diets pretty much suck. :/
I was reexamining the foods I feed Spud and there’s a ton of foods that just don’t contain bugs at all. There is never a time of year that a crested gecko should not be eating insects. So I either need to mix those with foods that do contain more bugs or relegate them to treat territory.
This is frustrating. I really wish I had the resources, funding, and know how to formulate my own balanced diets for him because there are none that I am 100% happy with. Unfortunately, the healthiest I’ve found he hates.
I’m going to toss my assessments of the foods under a readmore here:
Key:
Red text means its an ingredient I don’t like - either a filler, an inappropriate protein substitute, or straight sugar he doesn’t need.
Green Text is bugs. If a food does not contain bugs anywhere on the ingredient list, it should not be fed by itself as a meal.
Purple text is fruit, pollen, honey, or flowers. These belong in a crested gecko’s diet, but should not make up the majority of it. I follow a seasonal rotation of food availability based on what would be available to his species in the wild and try to vary the amount of fruits/flowers in his foods accordingly.
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Pangea
Watermelon
Dried Watermelon, Whey Protein Isolate, Dried Banana, Dried Mango, Rice Bran, Dried Egg, Micellar Casein, Lecithin, Dried Coconut, Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Bee Pollen, Algae Meal, Potassium Sorbate, Xanthan Gum, Beet Juice Powder, Dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae fermentation extract, Dried Bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation extract, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation extract, Mixed Tocopherols, Choline Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Ferrous Fumarate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, Niacin, Kelp Meal, Ascorbic Acid, Cholecalciferol (D3), Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sulfur, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12.
Assessment:
This food entirely lacks bugs so I will no longer offer it as a standalone meal. It contains more fillers and inappropriate protein sources than I’d like as well, so I may weed it out of Spud’s diet entirely. We’ll see. He’s a fan of this one and not often food motivated, so perhaps it will become a treat for behaving well for handling?
With Insects
Dried Banana, Micellar Casein, Dried Apricot, Insect Meal, Dried Papaya, Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Dried Coconut, Vegetable Oil, Ground Flaxseed, Lecithin, Algae Meal, Potassium Sorbate, Xanthan Gum, Dried Aspergilus niger fermentation extract, Dried Aspergilus oryzae fermentation extract, Dried Bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation extract, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation extract, Mixed Tocopherols, Choline Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Ferrous Fumurate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, Niacin, Kelp Meal, Ascorbic Acid, Cholecalciferol (D3) Riboflavin, Thiamine mononitrate, Vitamin A, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sulfur, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12
Assessment:
This isn’t the greatest food, I don’t like seeing alternative protein sources higher than insects in the list, but it does at least contain insects so I intend to leave it in the rotation for now to ensure I’m offering a good variety of foods and don’t omit every food he actually enjoys eating.
Apricot
Dried Banana, Dried Apricot, Micellar Casein, Dried Egg, Whey Protein Isolate, Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Oat Fiber, Algae Meal, Potassium Sorbate, Xanthan Gum, Dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, Dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, Dried Bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation extract, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation extract, Mixed Tocopherols, Choline Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Ferrous Fumarate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, Niacin, Kelp Meal, Ascorbic Acid, Cholecalciferol (D3), Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sulfur, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12.
Assessment:
This is possibly Spud’s favorite food and wow is it junk. Only two actual fruits and tons of fillers and weird proteins. I might keep it as a treat or to mix into healthier foods he hates just because he loves it so much, but it is really terrible quality food.
Fig & Insects
Organic Dried Mango, Dried Apricot, Insect Meal, Micellar Casein, Organic Dried Fig, Organic Natural Fig Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Organic Natural Berry Flavor, Ground Flaxseed, Lecithin, Algae Meal, MalicAcid, Potassium Sorbate, Xanthan Gum, Mixed Tocopherols, Choline Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Ferrous Fumarate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, Niacin, Kelp Meal, Ascorbic Acid, Cholecalciferol (D3), Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sulfur, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12.
Assessment:
This one’s not bad! Only one ingredient I particularly dislike, and its lower than the insect meal and most of the fruit sources. I’m comfortable with this in Spud’s food rotation as one of his more fruit-heavy foods.
Papaya
Dried Banana, Dried Papaya, Rice Bran, Micellar Casein, Whey Protein Isolate, Dried Egg, Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Algae Meal, Potassium Sorbate, Xanthan Gum, Dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, Dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, Dried Bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation extract, Dried Lactobacilus acidophilus fermentation extract, Mixed Tocopherols, Choline Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Ferrous Fumarate, Beta Carotene, Inositol, Niacin, Kelp Meal, Ascorbic Acid, Cholecalciferol (D3), Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sulfur, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12.
Assessment:
Like the apricot, this one’s junk, and he’s not so stuck on it that I feel the need to keep it in the mix. I’m currently out of it anyways, so I’ll just not buy it again.
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Repashy
Crested Gecko Diet
Dried Banana, Dried Date, Pea Protein, Rice Protein, Dried Fig, Stabilized Rice Bran, Coconut Meal, Ground Flaxseed, Dried Mango, Cane Molasses, Lecithin, Algae Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Taurine, Dried Kelp, Dried Watermelon, RoseHips, Hibiscus Flower, Marigold Flower, Paprika, Turmeric, Citric Acid, Salt, Calcium Propionate and Potassium Sorbate (as preservatives), Natural Flavor, Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Manganese Methionine HydroxyAnalogue Chelate, Copper Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Selenium Yeast. Vitamins: (Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Calcium L-Ascorbyl-2-Monophosphate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Beta Carotene, Pantothenic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex).
Assessment:
This one is another junk food, but can I just point out that there is molasses in here? The food has enough fruit sugars, it doesn’t need extra sugar. Wow this is unhealthy. Unfortunately, like Pangea’s apricot flavor, this is a favorite so I probably need to keep it around as a treat or a way to get him to eat healthier foods.
Grubs’n’Fruit
Black Soldier Fly Larvae Meal, Dried Banana, Dried Date, Dried Mango, Coconut Meal, Pea Protein, Rice Protein, Stabilized Rice Bran, Ground Flaxseed, Cane Molasses, Lecithin, Algae Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Taurine, Dried Kelp, Dried Watermelon, Rose Hips, Hibiscus Flower, Marigold Flower, Paprika, Turmeric, Citric Acid, Salt, Calcium Propionate and Potassium Sorbate (as preservatives), Natural Flavor, Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Manganese Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Copper Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate. Vitamins: (Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Calcium L-Ascorbyl-2-Monophosphate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Beta Carotene, Pantothenic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex).
Assessment:
This one however is a decent food! Insects at the top of the list! It still contains molasses, which I’m not happy about, and more alternative protein sources than I’d like, but for what’s available this is pretty solid.
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Black Panther Zoological
Color Bomb
Insect protein powder, brown rice flour, dried honey powder, calcium citrate, strawberry powder, apple pectin, banana powder, xanthan gum, atlantic kelp powder, beet root, choline citrate, dried hibiscus flower, niacin, vitamin e, carrot, paprika, inositol, pantothenic acid, potassium sorbate, riboflavin, beta carotene, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, cholecalciferol (d3)*, vitamin b12
Assessment:
My only complaint (nutritionally) with any of BPZ’s foods is the rice flour. Its a filler, makes it a weird consistency, and its way too high on the list for my liking. That aside, these are hands down the healthiest foods I’ve found. Problem is, Spud hates them. So I’m going to make more of an effort to cut them with some of his junk foods he likes to convince him to eat them, I guess.
Melonistic
Insect protein powder, brown rice flour, honey powder, cantaloupe, calcium citrate, apple pectin, beet root, carrot, dried hibiscus flower, spirulina, xanthan gum, atlantic kelp powder, vitamin e, choline citrate, niacin, inositol, panthothenic acid, potassium sorbate, riboflavin, beta carotene, thiamine mononitrate, pyroxidine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, cholecalciferol (d3)*, vitamin b12.
Assessment:
See Color Bomb.
Original
Insect protein powder, brown rice flour, dried honey powder, mango, calcium citrate, banana, xanthan gum, atlantic kelp powder, guava, spirulina algae, carrot, choline citrate, dried hibiscus flower, niacin, vitamin e, papaya, beet root, inositol, pantothenic acid, potassium sorbate, riboflavin, beta carotene, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, cholecalciferol (d3)* vitamin b12
Assessment:
See Color Bomb.
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Final Notes:
I labelled ingredients I liked and disliked off the top of my head. This was not as thorough an analysis as it could have been as I didn’t double check any of the ingredients. I am side eyeing all the algae pretty hard, but it may be one of the ingredients included as a source of important nutrients so I didn’t want to black mark it purely on a baseless bias against algae in an arboreal gecko’s diet. Similarly, some of the items I did mark as positive ingredients are definitely included to achieve the necessary nutrient balance, not for being species appropriate, but I highlighted them anyways because they are analogs of the species’ natural diet and I like to see them included. (The flowers are commonly used as ingredients to achieve specific nutrient contents, apple pectin is just a source of fiber.)
I included eggs as a protein source I’m not happy with here, because they do not naturally occur as a significant portion of a crested gecko’s natural diet, based on information I’ve uncovered about them in the past. However, I believe they might occur in other New Caledonian geckos’ diets, so if you are using these foods on one of those species that ingredient isn’t necessarily a bad thing for you. You should just keep in mind how much of that diet would be egg and adjust how much you feed those foods accordingly.
Finally, I really enjoy doing these diet assessments and can only look at my own pets’ foods so many times before I run out of things to tinker with. If you would like me to break down a food you feed or are considering for your pets, let me know! I’d be happy to help. Just note that I can only speak to what is specifically appropriate for cats, fishes, and some reptiles. I’m less knowledgeable about the diets of other species, but I can give it a go if you need help.
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Hi! Can you do a review on Psittacus pellets? Like your opinion on their pellets. Thanks!
So I had to go through four different websites and ended up only being able to find the ingredients listed on a forum. That’s an immediate red flag to me, if a company won’t stand behind their own formulas and want you to know what you’re feeding that’s generally suspicious.
Their website only states the guaranteed analysis, which is great, but it doesn’t actually tell you what their food is made of. Most places only list this:
Which is so unbelievably vague! “Products and by-Products of cereal grains” what ones? How much? Why are the by-products even necessary? So many questions!
So eventually I find someone who posted a picture of the package on an online forum
I don’t love it, the first five ingredients tend to be what you look at most since they make up the bulk of the pellet. Here we have corn, soybean meal, wheat, rice, sunflower oil.
Corn is nutritionless and just added as a filler, it basically just takes up space so birds have to eat substantially more of the food to get the same amount of nutrition they would get from a filler-less food.
Soybean meal, a debated ingredient as is and a “meal” is basically like saying very nutrient-dense soy to put it simply. So a very dense high quantity of a debated ingredient. It’s debated because if they aren’t cooked right they are toxic, their nutrient values aren’t really all that great/ there’s other non-toxic foods you can use instead to get the same values. And there’s some debate on its impact on hormone regulation being cause for hormonal aggression, plucking, and egg laying.
Wheat, nothing wrong with it? It’s pretty standard. Not as great as having something richer like barley or rye up there instead but it does it’s job.
Rice, doesn’t say what kind so that generally defaults it to being white rice which is largely nutritionless again. If it was a brown or field rice we’d be looking a bit healthier but it doesn’t really say. Pretty much same points as the corn.
Sunflower oil. Nothing inherently wrong, it is very high on the list. Keeping in mind that this package states it’s for breeder birds it does make sense for it to be a bit fattier so I got nothing majorly against it in this context. For their maintenance blends I would hope to see more wholesome grains or veggies starting at this point in this list. But I cannot find those ingredients lists so I can’t say if that’s the case.
Moving down the list I get a bit looser with what I’m looking for, more just red flags and things that may be missing.
Vitamin k3- they don’t state exactly where it’s from, there is a synthetic form of k3 that’s called Menadione sodium bisulfite which has caused Liver problems, allergic reactions, and anemia in mammals, not many studies on this with avians though and I haven’t found anything specifically saying it’s caused issues but it is just something to be aware of.
Vitamin d3 is very last, it’s a very important vitamin for (well almost any animal really). Having good D, calcium, and Phosphorus ratios are critical for development. In parrots it can greatly affect hormonal changes, nutrient synthesis, preen gland regulation. Without it the body can’t properly synthesize calcium which makes up feathers, scales, beaks, nails. Just because it’s at the end doesn’t mean there isn’t enough there, there’s just no specific answer for how much there is and because it is so low it is cause for some concern.
Vitamin A is also quite low which is needed for good immune health, feather quality, respiratory health and a lot of other stuff that I’m not gonna get in to right now. Again they don’t say exactly how much there is, it’s just oddly low but I can’t say if there is a good amount of not just by an order of ingredients.
General statement that all the nutrients for this food are synthetic or extracted, while there’s nothing inherently wrong with that we don’t presently know if parrots’ bodies absorb the nutrients the same in these forms. For the most part you want to see natural sources like vegetables because we know their body can absorb the nutrients in that state. Having a balance of both tends to be ideal.
Really it covers its bases, almost all pellets start with corn and soy I only found three that don’t (GoldenFeaat Golden Obles, Caitec Oven Fresh Bites, Totally Organics Pellets). So Psittacus is looking to be pretty standard amongst most brands. It doesn’t have added sugars, colours, major preservatives, didn’t list by-products on the actual package. I’d put it in the middle of the pack for pellets. Not as high quality as some, but not as terrible as some of the things that are out there. It covers its bases for as far as we know and does seem to have base nutrition needed. There’s just a bit more uncertainty and a bit more filler than would be totally ideal.
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