#STONATHAN AND BYLER PARALLEL

[messrsbyler]

“i know about the painting, will,” mike says.

“i know about the camera, steve,” jonathan says.

[kiirotoao]

I keep getting asked what I’d like to see / theories for s5, so I’m listing them here!

(In blurb form because I have too many lol)

MORE. WILLEL. OR. DEATH. I’d particularly love some parallels from s1, maybe Will talking to El in the void or something? Because

Will has powers!! I’d love to see him have some kind of time/energy/electrical/celestial powers to mirror his Will the Wise persona

JOPPER WEDDING OR DEATH ALSO THIS IS A NON NEGOTIABLE DUFFERS

Robin being a BAMF and impressing Vickie or vice versa (I’m currently more sold on Robin being the BAMF because if switched that’s just Ronance. Which also. Ronance endgame please and thank you???)

Stonathan endgame or at least bonding. Can you tell that the CGI snippets made me insane

Flickergate duh

Pocketgate!!! And specifically Mike confessing to Will, Will thinking it’s too good to be true, then Mike pulling out the letter to prove it in dear desperation

Based on the “6 little nuggets” anecdote, I think Steve might unfortunately be toast because he has his dream with The Party, y’know

There will be a dragon of some sort based on Will’s painting? Maybe like Vecna, the Mind Flayer, and the demogorgons will combine into one big ugly creature to defeat? Dramatic but I have no idea

The spores might also be more lethal and infect people? Or maybe cause widespread hallucinations? They were everywhere in that finale and that cannot be healthy. Yes I know that Hopper and Dustin didn’t suffer any side effects of them in s2 but Vecna’s still alive so I think maybe they could become a new force

I believe in the Kas theory! But not for Eddie. I’m between Kas being Will, El, or Mike

I hope that Nancy doesn’t end up with anyone or it’s implied that she, Steve, and Jonathan, are happy being single for that time until they completely understand themselves and what they want

Vecna appearing in nightmares!! I’d love to see the subconscious come into play and it would serve to flesh out our main cast even more than they already are (especially Mike Wheeler and his internal gay crisis)

Jonathan, Mike, Lucas, Erica, and Murray in the Upside Down please!! They have never been that’s why, and no, I don’t count the tunnels in s2 because they didn’t flip upside down to enter those so I don’t think it was quite the Upside Down

Full and integrated Hopper-Byers family scene at the end of the season. Like them playing Monopoly or something or just existing together in the same house. Being happy. Please dear God.

Will coming out to his mom or Jonathan or Dustin or Lucas or anyone, really

EVERYBODY WANT TO RULE THE WORLD BY TEARS FOR FEARS preferably in the ending scene but anywhere would suffice and I’m not saying this just because I love this song but the lyrics literally fit so well I don’t think I’ll recover if his song isn’t in s5

A gate may exist at the library - it’s in the center of the earthquake and it’s where Will was taken in s1. I think Henry may want to destroy it because it contains so much information

I’d love a s2 parallel where Lucas talks to his dad again. Maybe about Max, maybe about all the stress, something. More sweet parent moments

Based off of the Byler fights in episodes 3 (s3) and 2 (s4), I think maybe they’ll fight again in s5e1?

And then resolve by s5e5

Wherein Heros (Bowie’s og version) will play when Mike and Will kiss

I just really really want Dustin being the lord of the demodogs. Like d’Art returns and recognizes Dustin and they help to fight against Vecna like fighting fire with fire it’d be so epic you see the vision right?

I’d love to see a return of Kali!! Either as a friend or villain recruited/controlled by Vecna it’d be pretty cool either way

Max lives. Period

[l0v3c0r3e]

actually no i will never forget the byler stonathan parallel with the camera and painting

[starmanbyler]

bro imagine if all the byler parallels in stranger things extended past what’s already there.

can you imagine vickies boyfriend saying he loves her too then kissing her and she has her eyes open. then she just stands there for a few minutes.

nancy comes to meet up with stonathan and then when jonathan tries to hug nancy she gives him a little tap instead, then she berates him for being a jerk to steve all day and moping.

hopper telling joyce she’s the heart so that she can save bob’s life 💀💀

[rotisseries]

i love not theorizing, love being too stupid for analysis. the rest of you dig through scenes for hours finding parallels and background details to prove your point and that's great but I feel no need. I use my brilliant intuition for everything

is mike getting vecna'd? yes obviously. is st*ncy happening? hell no. byler endgame? no fucking shit. steve dead? unfortunately practically canon to me already. eddie coming back? yeah no I'm not stupid. will has powers? ok I could go either way on that and it depends on what kind of powers, so sometimes yes sometimes no, unsure how I feel about that also. birthdaygate? DEFINITELY NOT. fun little stonathan/stoncy dynamic in s5? yeah that's definitely what they're planning. anyone OTHER than steve dying? almost no chance. death scares on the other hand? for sure. any members of the party actually in the upsidedown? it's an inevitability! heroes playing? yes! when byler is kissing? no!

I am 100% confident in anything I say and no I will not back it up. source: common sense in my brain

[thisultraviolet]

🔥 + ST

I love that you still sent this to the Taylor blog lmao but HERE WE GO

(Also a lot of these will be hot takes within the Byler community but may be agreed among other fans idk I’m just in this corner of the fandom 90% of the time)

Steve actually IS that good a character? Like I understand it can be annoying when he clogs up every tag and ship but there’s a reason he’s that popular. He was basically DESIGNED to be the fandom’s favourite and it worked, I don’t think anything’s wrong with that. I adore this funky bi himbo and his kids and lesbian bestie and loser bf. And I *will* continue to project parental issues on him based on like 4 lines of dialogue bc frankly in this fandom that’s so far from the biggest leap we’ve made it’s not even funny. He’s my second favourite character and if he dies I will be genuinely inconsolable.

The only Byler proof I need is the s3 finale moving scenes. Finn’s acting choices in the El vs Will scenes, the parallels to the quarry scene, the shot of him looking back at the house? That’s all it took to solidify it for me. And the master doc is fun but I do think a solid 70% of the stuff on there is a huge stretch and is honestly harming more than helping our case lmao. If I want to convince people I just use that one scene and it works 90% of the time.

If you ship H*rringrove I think you’re genuinely a bad person. He’s a racist abuser and I’m glad he’s dead <3

STEDDIE IS SO CUTE MY FAV STEVE SHIP EASILY? It’s such a fun dynamic to work with, Eddie is CLEARLY queer coded much more than certain other characters we will get to, and the tropes that emerged in the fics post s4 were super fun and also SO interesting. Genuinely some Steddie fics I’ve read are just some of the best fics I’ve read period. (If anyone wants recs ESPECIALLY if you love a time loop fic hmu).

I wouldn’t hate them bringing back Eddie if they could pull it off in a way that made it seem genuinely planned and not just fan service. His death actually did piss me off (not just bc I was sobbing lmao) bc it seemed so rushed, and only getting to see Dustin’s reaction just felt like either terrible writing or a very purposeful lose thread. Also I’m still thinking about the profile picture colours bc I feel like we moved on WAY too fast.

Stonathan is fine. Good even but I just don’t see the appeal the way the rest of y’all do. Same with Ronance, I just genuinely prefer their dynamic as friends. I do love Stoncy in theory but post s3 I just don’t see it really working anymore, early Stoncy fics still hit though.

Lumax>Elumax>>>Elmax. The girls are adorable together ofc but I think Lumax is easily the best written relationship in the show rn and completely ditching it just seems odd to me? Obviously ship whatever you want I just can’t imagine not liking them together? I’m not blanket stating it’s for racist reasons but we all know Lucas is treated like dirt by the fandom in a way none of the other kids are

Dustin is my least favourite of the kids. I still love him, I just find him by far the least interesting. I obviously adore him and Steve but I feel like separating him from the party really has put him at a disadvantage these last few seasons. I’m really hoping the loss of Eddie will take him in an interesting direction though.

I will be genuinely upset if Jancy aren’t endgame but also I’m equally worried their issues won’t get addressed next season, idk they were my fav couple in s1/2 so I just hold them very close to my heart.

Flickergate is the superior Bylergate, especially if I had to pick one to actually happen in the show, it’s so romantic it makes me want to pass out.

I definitely have more but this is already way too long and I have 1989TV Clownery to get to so take this mess I guess

[burtonbabygirlguster]

i’m not the hugest Jancy fan (though i do really enjoy it, but Jargyle and Stonathan take the lead) but i love it when there are parallels between Jancy and Byler. like YES!!

[dasecretnebula]

Rating Stranger Things Ships:

Byler - 10/10

It’s cute and it makes sense! I feel like it has a lot of evidence! Like the parallels between canon ships! Also the fact that Will is canonically in love with Mike! I don’t think I thought this could be a thing before, but I later realized how beautiful this ship really is! It’s what I’ve been obsessed with for the past few weeks!! <3

Mileven - 3/10

I used to kinda like it more but idk. It’s not the worst but it’s a little weird. I don’t think the first thing El needed after being raised in a lab was a romantic relationship. Like Mike had to teach her what privacy was! He basically kinda raised her too?! And even in S4 it still wasn’t very good. I kinda wanted them to be friends from S1 tbh

Lumax - 8/10

I was just okay with it at first then I started to like it! It’s a pretty good ship! :) love how supportive Lucas was in S4. They’re totally endgame!

Elmax - 7/10

So cute!! I love the fanart! I don’t really ship it (mostly because of Lumax) but I still like it! I loved the scenes they had together. It was nice seeing El do things she actually likes with Max! I definitely like it more than Mileven.

Jopper - 10/10

Yess!! It’s my favorite canon ship and it’s nice knowing that it’s definitely endgame! (unless something happens in S5? Which it probably won’t) I looveee the idea of the Hopper-Byers family! It just feels so perfect! I need a Jopper wedding!!

Ronance - 7/10

I don’t feel like it’s canon but I like the idea of it! The fanart is so cute! Also they’re part of the “fruity four” and I love the idea of that! They make a good duo!

Steddie - 9/10

Also part of the fruity four. This might not have a lot of canon evidence and I didn’t really see it at first, but seeing all the fanart and stuff really made it grow on me! They would make a cool couple! I like headcanons that come along with this including bisexual Steve (because bi and lesbian solidarity) and then being Dustin’s dads!

Stancy - 2/10

Eh no. I don’t know why the shows trying to kinda make them a thing?? I don’t think it’s very good writing. Like it’s weird that they broke up in high school because Nancy realized she didn’t actually love him then she loves him again? Idk

Jancy - 7.5/10

Not my favorite but better than Stancy. I know they have problems or whatever but I think they can work it out. Like as long they don’t break up for Nancy to get with Steve! I think I mostly like this because I find it funny that three kids of the same family like a Wheeler lol! I like the Byler parallels too! Also Murray ships it so I say it’ll be endgame probably

Stonathan - 6/10

I kind like the idea of this! It would be interesting. One thing I think about a lot is how a “love triangle” usually isn’t actually a triangle, it’s more like an arrow ^, but if it were to be complete the two people in love with the one person would also be in love so then it would have three sides! It’s like:

Canon (typical “love triangle”). If Stonathan were a thing (real love triangle):

Steve Johnathan. Steve. ————Johnathan

\. /. \. /

Nancy. Nancy

So that would be fun and kinda satisfying! For a while I’ve wanted to see something like this happen!

Jargyle - 6.5/10

It’s wholesome but I don’t really ship it. The idea of weed smoking boyfriends chilling together is cute! Also them being dumbasses together

Harringrove - 1/10

Nah Billy is a jerk plus him and Steve really don’t get along

Anyway I’ve spent too much time on this 💀