#a business proposal ep6

[kathanisharma]

I think that you really have a great understanding of kathony. What do you respond to people who say that Anthony didn't fight for Kate. But he fought for Edwina and his family. How to respond to this?

thank you for the compliment!

so breaking this down, first of all, he definitely fought for kate, but to understand how, you have to take a closer look into who anthony is.

anthony is about duty. s1 we see him raking around but we still see hints of it, in his trying to find a match for daphne, even if he didn't get it right, but at the end of s1, he states that he's going to marry and have children etc etc as per his duties to his family and the viscountcy (we could go into a deeper exploration into where this burden comes from for him and it deals with his relationship with his father, and his father's early death but i don't think it's necessary to understand his actions as it relates to your question.)

so anthony going into s2? about doing his duty. marrying someone who fits the role, who he decides will pretty much be the diamond because if that's who the queen determines is perfect, she's what is perfect in society's eyes, and have kids, which he tells edwina in episode 3, telling her he will be doing his business and doesn't expect to spend time with his wife or kids. so when you say he fought for edwina? i don't see it. he found for edwina as she fit the role of his bride that he could have without any emotional connections, as would have any other lady the queen named as diamond.

his relationship with edwina was never about edwina as a person, but rather edwina as someone who fit a box, and he states that! in ep6 when edwina asks if he loves her, he responds with this whole dialogue about understanding her and how they're both eligible matches- the best of the season, who fills roles and have duties they have to fulfill. it's all very business transaction and again, has nothing to do with their actual personalities.

so in terms of fighting for edwina, i don't think he ever does, purely because he doesn't think of edwina as a person outside of the role she fills and his duty. he's fighting for his duty, at the exclusion of love.

his family. yeah. this whole season was his fighting for him family, but also learning that fighting for family doesn't mean excluding the possibility of happiness for himself or that his fighting for his family isn't the only thing making him worthy of love.

now specifically kate. did he fight for kate? yes. because he fought for her in a way that showed he truly loved and understood her.

the running theme from the beginning has always been how quickly kate and anthony clicked, and yes they were enemies/rivals/whatever words you want to use but it's been clear from their first meeting, that they align and then quickly after that- the mud scene, the bee scene, the library, etc that there's something unique about them. that their personal experiences have shaped them into similar beings.

so anthony fighting for kate is him accepting that he can't push her. there's never really any big opportunities for us to see him fight for her, because this season is really about them fighting their own selves and then accepting that they want to love and be loved and they reach that end point separately. anthony reaches it when he finds out she's awake after the accident and kate reaches it somewhere between her conversation with mary after the accident and before she dances with anthony at the wrecking ball dance.

so when anthony proposes to kate right after the accident, it's coming from him having just realized he wants to love her/be loved and it's coming when she thinks he's proposing out of burden/honour because she doesn't quite accept that there's a chance he loves her. idk if that makes sense. but he doesn't push there because there's this vulnerability of putting yourself out there and then thinking the other person doesn't want you back and it makes sense- they've both been pushing the other person for so long! but anthony is vulnerable (as is kate)!

so the next time we see them interact is the dance and it's all lovely with a hint of sad desperation that this is it for them. but then anthony finds her in the garden. and this is where i do think he fought for her.

because fighting isn't just about running, yelling in the rain, on your knees, desperate begging. sometimes it's putting it all out there, showing your entire heart, with having no expectations. he fought for her in a quiet, softer manner, even though it was seemingly hopeless. it can be about being completely vulnerable and open to heart break.

anthony has always had walls up. we only see them fall with kate, often when her walls are also down. here he chooses to let them down. he lays it all out on the line. he tells her he loves her and always has and that it's going to remain, regardless. he puts no conditions on his love. because he understands her desire for freedom. he understands the appeal of running away. he understands the fear of letting someone have so much power over you and your heart. and he lets her have his heart anyways. and accepts that she may not return hers and she may leave. and so in a way, he's fighting harder than he ever has, because he's accepting that he may be left in pain, but he's giving everything of himself. and it's a quieter fighting, but just as true.

so anthony does fight for kate. and luckily that's where their hea begins. if this were a different kind of story and their path to their hea had continued, idk what we would have seen- maybe we would have seen the louder fighting, maybe we would have seen him follow her to india, idk. but personally, i much prefer this. it felt truer to character and it felt like the right completion to a love story that was just as much about learning to accept that you are worthy of being loved, as much as it was about kate and anthony, and this scene really clinched both of them.

i hope this helps!

[whatnonsense]

I'll make sure you never forget from now!!

This line holy shit!!

Business Proposal | Episode 7

mingue kissed her like there's no tomorrow wth!!!!

This might be the hottest second lead couple ever!!

Ps: wait for dispatch 2023 for couple news lol!!

[afza147]

Short rant on ep6

Really writernim..u doing everything good so far

But I have some complain..sorry

1.why 2nd lead couple already got deep kiss and one night stand? Whereas main lead couple only a peck ????

2.really u just write tae moo ask ha ri to get out of the car in the middle of the rain??

U could fix it by ha ri coping him with the trauma or at least let her hug him..that would be better for the story???

Basically only 2 complain.but all it's better

I hope for improvement and deep kiss please for MAIN LEAD COUPLE

[mskatesharma]

I really think the writers should have had Anthony grovel to both/either Kate and Edwina for the whole proposing to E in a fit of denial about his feelings thing. And the thorn stuff in ep6 literally made me want Kate to leave all these fucking assholes in England and run off to India with Dorset. Also as a younger sister why the fuck was Edwina so blase about her sister going back to India?? Like is she stupid? She has to know she'll prob never see K again and she was just like ok sure byeee!

I have a feeling this may get long lol

For starters, Edwina and Anthony needed to have another conversation where she reemed him properly for essentially leading her on. I know we can point to everything he said to her about duty, but he never explicitly tells her that he doesn't love her; that there won't be love in their marriage (like he does with Kate in the book, for example). And he knows that Edwina likes him at least, that she's smitten with him, and she talks openly about love in front of him; when the Queen calls them a 'true love match', and when they're at the lake and Edwina replies to Anthony when he says Kate and Dorset not knowing each otherdon't know each other, "Nor did I you at first. But love moves swiftly, does it not?" He never corrects her in the moment, or talk to her privately to ensure she understands that he doesn't plan for theirs to be a love marriage.

Even Violet talks to Anthony before the Sheffield dinner, and asks him "does she know your true feelings on the matter?" because she knows that Edwina feels something for Anthony, whereas for Anthony their marriage is basically a business arrangement. It's one thing for Kate to have said "Anthony does not want a love marriage", but I think it would obviously hit Edwina differently if the man himself came out with the words, because she would be far more likely to believe him, and to maybe realise she's not exactly going to change his mindset?

She also needed to reem him about the fact he proposed to her knowing that he was in love with her sister, or at the very least that he had stronger romantic feelings for Kate than he ever would for Edwina. Once Daphne caught him and Kate in the library, Anthony should have walked away from Edwina and found someone else to court and then wed. The fact that he proposed to Edwina after realising his feelings for Kate makes him even more of a dick. And I know after episode 5 he only proceeded with the engagement and wedding because Kate asked him to, but at the same time, he does realise how unfair it is to Edwina? I know we talk about Kate deserving better, but it obviously goes without saying that Edwina most definitely deserved better.

Obviously both Kate and Anthony are to blame for the whole mess, but I feel like Anthony's part in the whole thing just gets glossed over or ignored? Which isn't surprising considering how the fandom already woobifies Anthony, but it doesn't make it any less infuriating.

With regards to Edwina being blase about Kate going back to India...I don't think it's necessarily her being uncaring, and more that like Mary, Edwina thinks that what Kate wants most is her independence and freedom, and that for Kate, that means going back to India. And Edwina probably is under the (naive) impression that Kate will make at least one visit. It's a case of Edwina not really knowing her sister, while also maybe not trying harder to look any deeper past what Kate presents to her? Because Kate keeps her true feelings well pushed down, and she guards her heart so much. It's easier for Kate to let them think that what she really wants is to return to India, than correct them with what her true desire in life is and having to explain why she thinks she doesn't deserve to have it, while also breaking her sister's heart in the process.

The thorn stuff...I've not exactly been quiet about how much I hate it, especially because Edwina (and Mary) don't seem to care about Kate being cut from their lives, like there's no reaction to Anthony saying it? And while you can excuse Edwina in that moment, I don't think you can really excuse Mary's lack of a reaction to being told that one of her daughters is "a thorn to be removed". It's such callous expression. (Let’s not get started on the fact that Mary doesn’t even go to look for Kate at any point in the aftermath during episode 6.)

I've actually been bugging @nanso with an AU that I indulge whenever I get annoyed at Anthony and Edwina where Anthony and Edwina get married, and Kate goes back to India. I mean, I think we all know that if Anthony and Edwina had got married, Anthony was going to say Kate's name at least once during sex, right? And I think that utterly smashes any rose tinted illusion that Edwina was clinging to when she decided to go ahead with the marriage (this is based on the idea that they make it back to the alter after Edwina's runaway bride act). She basically comes to the conclusion that no matter what she does, Anthony will never think of her in the same way that he thinks of her sister, even with Kate in India. And obviously that comes with conflicting emotions, because Edwina does realise that she misses Kate, and just how much she loves her sister, but she also can't help but hate her because she's the one her husband really wants, and she's the one he dreams about. Anthony for his part throws himself to his duty, while he feels increasingly bitter towards Kate because not only did she say that the feeling between them would pass and that it would become bearable, he fooled himself into believing her and if anything, the feeling has just got worse? He also resents the fact that she's the one who essentially pushed him to the alter after he said he would end the engagement.

Meanwhile Kate ends up working for some rich family with a son and a daughter, and the dad's brother (who just so happens to look like Nikesh Patel) is a widow, and he and Kate bond over lost loves (she basically breaks down in the garden one evening and tells him about everything that happened in England, and how it's all her fault, and finally someone sees how much self loathing she has? How she doesn't think herself worthy or good enough?). Anyway, Nikesh Patel lookalike helps her feels less alone? He at least helps her recognise that it wasn't all her fault, and honestly? They end up starting some hot? torrid? affair together, where don't make each other promises; they're not under any illusions, but they do recognise that the other person helps them to feel less alone. Don't mistake me, she still has so many regrets, and longing, but she believes that everything probably worked out for the best because she's removed herself from the situation; she's no longer there to only end up making things worse.

And maybe it's been two years or so, but the family Kate works for announces that they're going to London because they want the daugter to try a social season? Idk exactly but they're making the journey to London and Kate can't get out of it. Kate has been exchanging letters with Mary (she does write to Edwina but I think understandably Edwina doesn't reply), so Kate obviously informs her mother that she's coming. Mary tells Edwina, but she doesn't share this information anyone else. Kate also writes to Dorset? He's been to see her once or twice, and she also informs him that she's coming. Anyway, he sees Anthony and Edwina at some ball or function, and asks Edwina if she is excited for Kate's visit. And obviously this is the first time Anthony is hearing of such a thing and...that's about all I have mapped out. I haven't really thought about it too much lol

[mizugucci]

kdrama kisses usually dont elicit any reaction in me, but oh boy that kiss in business proposal ep6.... the HAND PLACEMENTS... 

the way youngseo finally threw caution to the wind, took a chance and let herself be vulnerable to someone else, and not being burned or made fun of but instead totally accepted...

meanwhile sunghoon clearly isnt holding back anymore. he put all that anxiety and worry about youngseo into that kiss... all around perfect kiss very meaningful very emotional also kinda sexy 10/10

[kyuu-rereads-umineko]

Ep6, Chapter 12

it’s been 10 months but IT’S MURDER TIME

also did i mention this is chapter 12 out of 18

(Also, I’m aware that my formatting for coloured text is broken right now. I’ll look into it later.)

Erika is woken up by someone knocking at her door, and she snarks that they’d better “have a good reason for knocking on the detective’s door at an hour like this.” never change erika

actually i take that back please change stop being so unpleasant but ANYWAYS

In the Meta-World, Erika proposes that they “raise the stakes”. 

“It’s simple. Battler got a shot off at us in the last game. So, if Erika does the same in this game, we’re only even.”

Lambda realizes that Erika’s saying she’s not going to make a detective proclamation, and Chick takes offense. “You intend to participate in the game with a foolish handicap like that...? That is not only presumptuous, it’s quite rude...!”

“If this game is won by a human without the detective proclamation, it’ll be impossible for Battler and the others to pick up the pieces of the Illusion of the Witch... But on the other hand, if Erika loses, that detective trash will be sent into the depths of oblivion along with the worst possible Fragment.” BERNKASTEL DID NOTHING WRONG

Battler asks Erika if she’s okay with this deal, and she stutters, which doesn’t escape his notice. Even if she doesn’t say it outright, Bern doesn’t try very hard to pretend this isn’t her doing, lol.

“After all, when Battler played for the Human side, he never had anything as convenient as the detective’s authority. All he was allowed to do was use the blue truth and demand that Beato repeat things he said.”

Erika proclaims that she’ll “destroy the Illusion of the Witch for [Bernkastel] without fail,” and we cut back to the game board, where George and Jessica have knocked at Erika’s door looking for Battler and Maria. Erika’s face lights up when she hears that there’s no sign of them in the guesthouse, and no one’s answering the phone at the mansion. She rushes out into the rain on her own, heading for the mansion.

“The first twilight usually starts in the morning, but it looks like we’ve got an early fight this time.” Pretty good indicator that, like in Ep5, whatever’s going on behind the scenes here isn’t the same murder roulette game that Yasu’s games were about...

Entering the mansion (the door being unlocked this time, for some reason), she runs into Gohda right away, screaming about calling the police or an ambulance or someone. Business as usual, here.

“That expression really is wonderfully pathetic. Just perfect for the first one to discover the crime.” lol

Erika snarks about the island being cut off from the outside world, as always, and in the Meta, she asks Battler to explain the crime scenes and such.

Again, business as usual here - the parlour was locked from the inside, door barred, etc., and Rosa and Maria were found dead inside.

“The entrance wasn’t locked when you came into the mansion because they went out through it to check the parlour from the outside. It had been locked before they left through it, so there was a chance that the others who had gone missing were lying elsewhere within the mansion, and the adults are now searching the entire building...”

Battler confirms that the victims were found where they were killed during the love trial earlier - Rosa and Maria in the parlour (of course), Natsuhi in her own room, Kyrie in Krauss’s study, and Eva in the VIP room (okay, she was moved there after being killed in the rose garden, but still). Though that still only makes five victims...

On the board, the adults have found a guest room with the chain set. Never a good sign on Rokkenjima.

Cutting the chain and entering, they find none other than Battler lying on one of the beds. Rudolf breaks down immediately, crying over his body, while Krauss confirms that the guest room was also a closed room. “They’re all closed rooms, aren’t they...? ...I don’t... understand... It couldn’t be suicide, could it...?!”

In the Meta, Erika feigns surprise at Battler being the sixth victim, and he just replies with, “It’s more interesting to kill yourself off every now and then.” lol

Chick claims the murders couldn’t have been performed without magic, Erika counters that it wouldn’t be a game if that were the case, and Battler coyly says, “That’s an interesting thought.”

“This game is fair. The goal is to explain without magic the strange crimes that are claimed to be caused with magic. If that couldn’t be done, it wouldn’t be a game.”

“To turn it around, the witch side had a certain responsibility. They had to make a crime that could be reproduced with tricks and not magic.”

“In other words, in order to carry out a closed room murder with magic... it was necessary to create a crime that would be possible by Human hands.”

To be completely honest? While, yes, that’s been an unspoken assumption all along, and implicitly confirmed in Ep5, I still don’t like how Ep6 just lays it all out like that. It’s a minor point, seeing as the howdunnit ultimately isn’t the key point of the story, but it still bugs me.

Meanwhile, in Featherine’s parlour (oh god I forgot how fucking nuts the meta was in Ep6), Ange finally realizes why the Stakes couldn’t murder her classmates when she asked them to back in Ep4.

“‘Magic can only do what you can accomplish by your own hands,’ ...is that it?”

“At that time, if I had been capable of killing my classmates... Capable of pulling it off... Then the Seven Sisters of Purgatory would probably have pulled it off for me. They could only accomplish what I could do myself... No, that’s not it either. They could take what I had accomplished and turn it into ‘magic’.”

“If I had called those classmates out somewhere without witnesses... and if I had succeeded in murder... At that point, ‘the Seven Sisters of Purgatory would be capable of carrying out a magical murder’...”

And Ange hits the nail on the head: Magic, in this context, is an adornment. Not even a Witch can make a lollipop appear out of thin air, unless she’s already got one hidden in her pocket.

“Those who accomplish something without using magic... later claim that magic was used and call themselves witches.”

And of course, because Erika already knows and understands this, she simply won’t ever surrender, unlike Battler early on, when he still didn’t know up from down. Ange finds herself getting stuck on the same point as always, though - Since drawing the game out longer would mean more hints for the Human side, i.e. a higher chance of the tricks being seen through and the magic being destroyed, why would Beato deliberately drag things out until she lost...?

Back on the game board, Erika takes advantage of the confusion in the mansion to quickly check all of the crime scenes. Dlanor reminds her that without the detective’s authority, her “photographic memory” isn’t infallible. For instance, she can’t confirm by investigation that someone is genuinely dead, as opposed to just pretending.

(spoiler: she totally can and she totally will)

“I quickly visited the VIP room, Krauss’s study, and Natsuhi’s room on the second floor, as well as the parlour and the guest room on the first floor, this time checking with my own eyes, as I had failed to do in the last game...” I’d forgotten that Ep6 actually confirms that Erika didn’t check the corpses herself in Ep5, huh.

“The closed rooms were all made without relying on any elements that could be locked or unlocked from the outside by a master key or something else.” AKA, the chains were set, windows were locked, etc.

"It is probably their goal to construct closed rooms where explanations using master keys are made completely INEFFECTIVE.”

Erika homes in on the fact that the parlour doesn’t have a chain lock - instead, the door was just barred with a hat stand, like Battler said. An interesting choice when there are plenty of guest rooms with chain locks, indeed...

She asks if the deaths could be confirmed “even without the detective’s authority,” and Gertrude replies, “Know that there were no corpses that could have been confirmed dead with certainty by physical means.” RYUKISHI.............

Lambda points out that, while she liked the closed room chain from Ep3 better, “these closed rooms are even more complete, considering that master keys don’t help you at all.”

“There are two general ways of breaking closed rooms that Battler might be after... An illusion of a closed room, or an illusion of a crime.”

Lambda states that, looking at Battler’s game board “from the underside,” she knows the closed rooms are “perfect.” Bern asks her to say that in red, she refuses because it’d be rude to Battler, saying, “If you do love me, you must see my words as red truth already, right...?” lol

“...Then the closed rooms are perfect.” lol

Either way, the alternative is that no one actually died, of course. “Doesn’t this mean that everyone got so pissed at Erika bragging about detectives and stuff that they joined together and set up a fake murder to make fun of her?” 

(spoiler: yes)

Bern, however, replies with, “Unfortunately... this isn’t a fake. The victims really have been killed.”

“No detective proclamation has been made, but Erika’s very accurate when examining corpses. She’s good enough that I could give her examinations the red truth.” FORESHADOWING...

Of course, Bern being Bern, she won’t confirm anything that easily. “Well, she isn’t even the detective this time around. I won’t give her any red.”

“Still... that makes it incredible. This time... Battler’s really made a perfect closed room!”

Lambda asks if this might be too much for Erika without her authority, and Bern says, “No matter how it turns out, it won’t be boring.” TRUE NEUTRAL

“Lambdadelta had guaranteed that it was a perfect closed room. Bernkastel had guaranteed that it was a perfect murder. A perfect ‘closed room’ and ‘murder’.”

Meanwhile, Battler asks Erika if she’s satisfied with her investigation. She says yes, and asks if they’ll start throwing reds and blues at each other now or later. “I don’t like putting things off. I think the same goes for you.”

(booooo i have to worry about text formatting after all)

In order, Battler confirms in red:

All six rooms were closed rooms (until Gohda & co. cut the chain locks and entered)

The “closed rooms” couldn’t have been constructed from outside

Interference from the outside is impossible (barring immaterial things like sound)

When the closed rooms were deconstructed, the only people inside were the victims

...but when Dlanor asks him to confirm “No murder was committed after the deconstruction of the closed ROOMS,” he refuses. Erika jumps on this, claiming that the victims were alive and Krauss’s group were the culprits, and Battler... doesn’t respond. Instead, Chick says, “The murders will continue to occur, so we cannot say in red that no murders will happen after this.” HMM

“Sheesh, what twisted logic. You probably see what we’re getting at. Krauss’s group cut the chain and destroyed the closed rooms, then killed the people inside. I just want you to counter this.” Dlanor points out that “Krauss’s group” isn’t a specific number of people, but Battler acknowledges in red that “Krauss’s group” - i.e. Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi, and Gohda - were the only people besides Erika to enter any of the rooms, as of the current time.

While it’s framed as being a “who knows what might happen next” kind of deal... Hmm. I wonder...

Something that I’ve thought for a while is that Battler’s gambit with the logic error in this Episode was completely intentional on his part, and something that he actively instigated and worked towards. With what we see of the GM’s awareness in other Episodes, I find it hard to believe that Erika could run off and kill five people without him noticing it somehow.

To that end... I wonder if his refusal is because he already knows that Erika’s killed off everyone? Those murders would have to occur after the “deconstruction of the closed rooms,” so he wouldn’t be able to say that nothing of the sort happened in red...

Thinking about it, I’m not sure that actually fits with Ep6′s sequence of events - Erika’s murder spree happens after she herds everyone into the guesthouse, doesn’t it? Either way, hmm...

At any rate, Erika continues by asking him to confirm that Krauss’s group “are not culprits.” After a moment’s thought, he replies, “I’ll acknowledge it, but I’ll make the language more strict. Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi, and Gohda... were not involved in the murders of Natsuhi, Eva, Kyrie, Rosa, Maria, and Battler.”

“And that means, ‘it was also impossible for any of the other humans, who didn’t even enter the closed room, to have been involved with murder,’ doesn’t it?”

blah blah repeat of ep4′s rules, in order to win the witch side has to protect at least one of its riddles but the human side has to explain everything, blah blah

Having said that, Battler doesn’t confirm Erika’s last statement, saying, “I don’t give out red for free.”

“Let us CONTINUE.” Battler confirms in red that all of the victims were murdered, but when Dlanor starts to list off the seventh item in her list, Erika interrupts her, saying, “That’s enough.” Seems to me like she’s leaving some leeway for her insane murder spree later on, but...

“From here on, it’s time for me to argue back with the blue truth.”

“Sure, fine. Let me hear your masterful theories.”

Chick watches from the sidelines, thinking that Erika and Battler are probably having fun... and feeling a bit jealous. Sorry, Ryukishi, but no matter how hard you push Erika as being another rival for Battler, it doesn’t fly for me.

Back on the game board, all the survivors have gathered in the guesthouse. Yeah, Erika’s killing spree is after she returns to the mansion from here, huh...

The adults all question what the hell happened, how Battler and Maria got inside the mansion, etc. In hindsight, I can definitely see that they’re doing this to prod at Ms. Detective Erika about the crime being “impossible.”

Erika asks everyone to calm down, pointing out that how Battler and Maria got into the mansion might not have anything to do with how the culprit entered. Krauss agrees, saying, “I feel as terrible as the rest of you. However, we must take the initiative now and regain our composure.”

“The culprit is still on this island. And we can’t be sure that this tragic crime is over. We need to stay calm and prevent any further tragedies.”

Rudolf wants to find the culprit, while everyone else points out that their best bet is to wait until the police can arrive and investigate. 

“Kyrie... Battler... Dammit... dammiiiiit... I never... had a chance... to tell you the truth...”

Erika successfully convinces Krauss and the servants to head upstairs, leaving her, Rudolf, and Hideyoshi behind in the lounge. “In times of confusion, when only men are around, it’s easy for a composed member of the opposite sex to take the initiative. Even without the detective’s authority, she was able to control them quite naturally.” lol

“This crime happened during a short break in the family conference. In that tiny span of time, six people were killed without anyone noticing. I can’t imagine a crime improvised on the spot going so smoothly. This crime was committed by someone who knew the layout of this mansion well, inside and out.”

Unsurprisingly, Rudolf and Hideyoshi are none too fond of the idea that the culprit might’ve been one of the other family members or a servant, but Hideyoshi’s line in particular stands out to me:

“I never even considered suspectin’ Krauss nii-san or Rudolf-kun...!! All of the siblings had excellent relationships with their spouses! True, the Ushiromiya family may be strict with discipline and money. But that doesn’t mean we treasure our own families less than anyone else...!”

“With their spouses.” “Our own families.” Foreshadowing that, whatever happened on Rokkenjima Prime in Ange’s world, Eva likely wasn’t the culprit.

Erika proposes that, while he didn’t kill anyone himself, Gohda might’ve let the actual culprit into the mansion. Well, we know in red that that’s not true, but that’s not particularly relevant to anyone on the board...

“Though the siblings hated each other, it wasn’t possible that they’d hate each other’s wives enough to kill them.” UM..........

Erika repeats some of the same points that have been brought up since early on when it comes to the servants - they’re relatively familiar with the family members, and they’ve got master keys. Pretty standard, though as usual, there’s no red-abiding explanation for how someone could set the chain on the door from outside.

“Though it might be possible [to set the chain from outside] in reality... the red truth had already declared that these closed rooms could not have been constructed from the outside.” Oh. Now that’s telling, isn’t it?

“It might be possible in reality.” In other words, each episode isn’t just a work of fiction for us, but in-universe as well.

“With her accomplished conversation techniques, Erika was cleverly grasping the initiative. ...Even without the detective’s authority, it’s possible to control human nature to this degree. What do you think, everyone...?”

[badedramay]

Hey Mais! How're you doing, how's life treating you?

I was wondering what else you're watching/reading ither than Imlie? Are you into Bridgerton? Or any thoughts on the Ramadan shows?

Thanks, take care!

hello hello! I am fine, Allahamdullilah!

Yaaaaaar...watching toh nothing else really. A Business Proposal dekh rahi thi that too ended. Have another drama downloaded but dekhne ka itna mood nahin horaha. Imlie bhi watching quite lazily. I want to re-read Aks but mood hi ajeeb sust hua hua hai.

Bridgerton S2 I was so excited about. But Wallah the show fully lost me in ep6. Felt like I was watching an ITV show that too without the crack masala! Isse acha toh main apne ITV shows hi dekh loon. Took a day off from everything to binge the damn thing and actually felt relieved when I dropped the show in ep6 and went back to Imlieland. GHAR wali feeling agayi kasam se. I dont think I'll be watching any future seasons of Bridgerton.

Thoughts about Ramazan shows shared in another ask :)

[whatnonsense]

Hyperactive extroverted GF and calm introverted BF

Business Proposal | Ep 6 BTS

[whatnonsense]

They are so married!! Look at them being romantic as hell!! Also that cheek kiss was so unscripted and mingue's smile is so genuine! My heart can't take this!!!!

Business proposal | Episode 8

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I can't defend these two anymore, I give up!! You're on your own

Kim Min Kyu & Seol In Ah | Business Proposal BTS

@sweetestlamb babe....

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Lord have mercy!!!

ps: that hand grabbing her waist did it for me!

Business Proposal | Episode 6

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Just get married or shut the fuck up at this point!!

20 questions with Kim Min Kyu and Seol In Ah | SBS catch

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Peak husband wife energy, tbh how are they not dating after these confessions!!

20 questions with Kim Min Kyu and Seol In Ah | SBS catch

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Kim Min Kyu and Seol In Ah | Business Proposal live (special ep)

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are y'all seeing this?? i don't like shipping real people but what are they doing-

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He cares for her so much, my heart!!!

20 questions with Kim Min Kyu and Seol In Ah