Hi! I haven't looked much at utmv based aus at this point, but I do have a *loose* idea of who rouge is, and I've seen some of their works floating around. Some of the stuff I've seen has given me off vibes, but I haven't seen enough to know what's going on and I don't know much about their stuff or who they are. If you don't mind telling me, what exactly did they do/make that's bad? If this qualifies as an irrelevant ask, I apologize-
mentions of rape, incest, pedophilia, suicide, bestiality, ect. ahead - these topics are mentioned due to being romanticized in fiction and in poor taste to a literal shitton of minors.
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anyways, no worries! i dont mind explaining, but this is a topic i feel kinda. very strongly about, so, forewarning, im not gonna sugarcoat anything, and its probably gonna end up being a huge ramble
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rouge kinda sucked. i mean, yeah sure she was a cool person, cool adult, i recall she told off a bunch of her fans for attacking someone else who was self shipping with paperjam over shipping freshpaper, but a lot of what she did in her storytelling and how she told her stories was HIGHLY shitty.
in early fandom days, (i dont know about now since i havent been following her stuff), rouge was damn popular, like, i remember fifty thousand+ people following her at one point. she was really into sanscest - and so were a lot of the younger people in this fandom, the 13-14-15 year olds. i was 15 myself when i followed her. she had a very distinctive, anime-esque sort of style, which was very attractive to younger people, u know?
rouge posted uncensored, untagged ns-fw content on her blog, but thats not even the worst of what she did, so let me get to that - gotta do some explaining.
rouge liked sanscest, and the ships she liked and favored most of all were errink, poth, and freshpaper. which like, cool, like what you like, i dont care, but in the context of what she did, this is kinda important.
(if you're not sure, freshpaper is the ship between fresh and paperjam, a combination character turned shipkid of error and ink by @/7goodangel, (who isn't actually bad, we love angel), but thanks to rouge, a lot of people see and treat paperjam like a young child. he's canonically 21, while rouge tended to treat/characterize/age him down to like 14-15.)
(the sin of poth is somewhat forgivable, since not a lot of people realize that goth (afterdeath shipkid, and a young immortal) is 21, and palette (dream/ink shipkid) is 12. yeah you read that right. nekophy, goth's creator, and the person who created palette who's name i forgot, didn't ever reveal their creations ages until people were already shipping them. when asked, the answers given were.,,, so different than what the fandom expected. i dont think either of them coordinated that fhsjgidk)
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rouge came up with a ton of stories, a ton of AUs on a multiversal scale, that featured errink, poth, and freshpaper. a lot of the settings of her stories, while extremely interesting and having a ton of potential if done correctly, were literally only made for shipping. (i know, that's bad. when you're world building, don't just focus on the ships,, come on. thats not what i'm getting at tho lmao)
she made, iirc, NAJ ("Nerd And Jock"), VampireVerse, LJH ("Little Jammy Hood"), PJ's daycare, Jammy's Love, and i think there was another, but i cant recall it if there was.
in my opinion, the worst of these was her NAJ au, which was set in "high school". she's passed it off to someone else, but before she did that, she created a lot of content for it.
the main focus of the NAJ au, unsurprisingly, was freshpaper, but surprisingly with a flipped dynamic from how she usually did freshpaper - fresh being the "uncool nerd", paperjam being the "cool, sexy suave jock". (the sub and dom, if you will, though i despise those terms being used in the context of shipping. those,,,, are b/d/s/m, sexual terms,,,). there were a ton of side characters in this au, and of course, errink were there as teachers in a relationship.
poth were there as,,,, im not even sure if they were students or teachers or faculty, but goth was the librarian and palette was the cheer squad leader or something. anyways, goth ended up raping palette due to "repressed romantic feelings towards him". palette was all unforgiving until goth tried to commit suicide, and then proceeded to say that goth raping him was okay because "i liked it anyways". yeah. uh. they ended up dating after that.
there was also an extremely problematic character who's main goal was, and i quote, "to fuck everyone in the school". one of the characters this character fucked also made an AIDs joke in reference to this in extremely poor taste. unrelated to this character, there was also a single ace character who was repeatedly sexualized by their romantic interest (AND by rouge's followers and askers).
i feel like NAJ only existed so rouge could make p*rn of it - censoring some words bc i dont want dear ol tumblr to fuck my post up. like, okay yeah, fiction is fiction, but rouge's audience was largely minors in their early teens, and she made a lot of art in this AU that sexualized these minors.
the sins of PJ's daycare and Little Jammy Hood weren't as bad as NAJ, but they were just,,, creepy.
the premise of PJ's daycare was largely that an adult Paperjam (20s, i think 25) ran a daycare for 1-6 year olds with the help of young teenagers (12-13, 15-16) goth, palette, bluescreen, and gradient. goth also tried to commit suicide in this one after believing palette rejected his advancements - no rape occurred here, i think palette just didn't respond after goth confessed romantic feelings for him.
the kids in PJ's daycare included a young error, ink, fresh, lust, fell sans, and swap sans. lust's attitude, demeanor, and personality had not changed, despite him being 3 years old, so we have a sexually provocative 3-year-old in this au! fun.
fresh, i believe was either 3, 4, or 5, and was constantly hitting on/flirting with the adult Paperjam, and even stalked him outside the daycare - i dont even remember what happened when fresh found out paperjam was romantically involved with someone else, but i dont remember it being pretty.
bluescreen (an errorberry combination character by @/7goodangel and @/askinfresh), and gradient (an errink combination character by @/askcomboclub) were transformed by rouge into shipkids of their respective combos. which made them half brothers. who were then shipped together.
look, again, i dont care what you ship as long as you are treating it correctly and not shoving it in other people's faces, incest or otherwise, but as a result of this, a ton of minors in this fandom are now desensitized to these sorts of ships.
it's not that shipping it was a problem on rouge's part, it's that she romanticized it. like she romanticized NAJ's rape scene and the aftereffects of it? that's what im talking about. (for the record, incest ships make me HIGHLY uncomfortable, but honestly, i dont care if you ship it, just do it away from me, you know?)
Little Jammy Hood wasn't as bad, but it,,, did have several sexual assault scenes, and it did involve bestiality with a young Paperjam and a wolf Fresh, uh, "in heat". uh. yeah. there was also a sexual assault scene initiated by the wolf version of this au's swap sans with the fresh wolf as well.
Jammy's love involved paperfresh a 15 year old Paperjam, and his adult (20s) uncle Fresh, Error's brother. im not gonna go into it much, but uh. yeah there was p*rn in this too.
ACTUALLY I JUST REMEMBERED, in Jammy's love, there was even a scene where fresh and paperjam were out in public being romantic?? and all the bystanders looked at them and started like?? calling fresh a pedophile (because he WAS in this au, dating rouge's 15 year old paperjam), and like??? fresh started crying over it, and paperjam told off all these people for "being bad people" and god it was just a mess of manipulation and pedophilia passed off as romantic
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vampireverse, which is the idea of hers that i kinda snatched and made my own, wasn't nearly as bad as the rest. the main focus was errink, but there was also a side of freshpaper as well. error (a vampire named fallacy) ended up kidnapping ink (uh,,, a,, french,, artist? named encre) and invoking stockholm syndrome in him, which isn't a bad trope but like. it was so highly romanticized, it kinda sucked.
the freshpaper wasn't actually that bad, compared to everything else. the worst thing i can remember happening is paperjam (also a vampire, error's son but not ink's, named jasper) trying to get fresh (some peasant servant of error's, named suave) drunk so he could fuck him with no consent on fresh's part.
rouge stopped making content for it after a while.
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to be clear, i dont consider anything she shipped condemnable. i dont care what anyone ships, i dont really care, because its fiction and its not real. romanticizing all of these things, though? to a bunch of minors and people who have no idea how to navigate the world yet?
when you romanticize these concepts, you leave the impression on your audience (ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE 13-15 YR OLD MINORS) that rape is okay, that incest is okay, that pedophilia is okay, that suicide is okay, that bestiality is okay - and it's not, not in real life, and the stories with these concepts should reflect that. most young people, usually young but a ton of older people as well, don't know how to make the distinction between the fictional head space and reality. i didnt either, not until i was seventeen!!
i honestly believe that rouge's stories had potential to be dark, to be sick, and to revel in it, like darkfiction stuff which is hella fun to explore, not gonna lie. darkfiction is good, it's a fun place to explore these sorts of concepts without hurting real people, but she romanticized all of it to her young, impressionable audience, and that's when it went sour. that's when it became not okay.
rouge isn't necessarily a bad person, but she had literally no idea what she was doing and ended up creating a lot of bad shit and impressing that on a shitton of minors/people who logically wouldn't have known better.
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