#amane voting discourse

[the-sol-eater]

Okay listen I don't want Amane to be unforgiven, at all, and even though I'm pretty confident her verdict will turn up as forgiven given how the votes have gone I am aware there is a sliver chance that she could barely get into unforgiven, and that scares me That being said however, the one positive that would come from her being unforgiven would be seeing Jackalope's reaction because could you fucking imagine "Oh, you didn't forgive her because you thought you could change her worldview? Tough luck with that" [One Trial Later] "Are you actually fucking kidding me, say sike right fucking now."

[oboetemasuka]

*gasp* Magic hour is still real. I can breathe now.

The trend lines say she'll survive by a thin margin. My intuition says not if the pit-to-pit differences don't decrease. (But if they do decrease, then the jumps also decrease.) In either case, it's going to be close.

[dearmahiru-archive]

i am excited for purge march but i'm also dreading it at the same time. all of the faceless victims have been revealed thus far and considering amane's victims is another child... if milgram continues the trend of being shocking last minute and decides to outright depict amane's murder i am going so mad. we all know the casual fanbase cannot handle shocking imagery without immediately labeling said prisoner as evil

[meowkusunoki]

btw if you voted muu guilty while knowing about harukas threat you CANNOT argue that amane should have been guilty for the sake of damage control

[boatemboys]

i wonder once milgram ends how much longer voting discourse will go on for. probably quite a while which is really funny. dni if u voted amane guilty 10 years ago

[oboetemasuka]

I just wanted to add a few more anecdotes.

Based on Pai's graph, Mahiru was consistently hovering around 72%. She got a boost to 73% after Kazui's video, but she was affected by the guilty shrine; probably August 8, as she lost about .4% by the following day. (Incidentally, that's when I joined the voting.) From there, she lost about 4% until Amane's video came out, and then she recovered .3% on the last day.

In contrast, Kazui was a full-out tug of war. Even if it seemed like the red was winning, he was never more than 2% behind. I guess you could say that Mahiru's "average day" vote went down drastically, while Kazui's was already divisive as-is.

I wonder what that means for Amane. Yes, I noticed that her percentage drop is slowing down; I think she could "survive" to Mikoto's video. Then there's the case with her first trial. She started around 80%, but she just kept dropping until she was just below the guilty range. If Mikoto's video hadn't been delayed then, would she have gotten a boost back into the blue?

Okay, time for me to stop overthinking.

So about Amane's voting percentage. I've seen a fair few people worried that if her Innocent percentage is dropping, it must be because there are more people voting her Guilty than people voting her Innocent. However, this is not necessarily the case, and while it may be my own biases speaking here, I actually think there's a pretty good chance there are currently more people voting her Innocent than Guilty, and her percentage is dropping only due to a mathematical quirk. It's a pretty simple concept really, it's because the percentage changes per day don't relate directly to what votes happened during that day, but rather, they tend towards what can be considered an "average day"'s vote. I'll explain under the cut if anyone's confused.

Also this will be focused on Amane but it can be applied to any prisoner vote that follows a similar trend.

Also also as a disclaimer I am not very educated on complex statistics so a lot of my claims might be a bit off.

So it's pretty clear looking at the data, a lot of people voted Amane Innocent during the first few days after Purge March came out, but then stopped voting for one reason or another. I'll call these people "One Time Voters" to give them some name.

To visualize, let's take some manageable numbers to understand what's going on. Although hundreds of thousands of people vote every day, let's take some smaller numbers, and say that after One Time Voters were done voting, Amane's situation looked something like this.

30 votes for Innocent, 10 votes for Guilty. So a 75%/25% split, which I believe is around the highest peak Inno percentages got. We'll call this "Day 0." After this, One Time Voters stopped voting, and Innocent was winning by 20 votes.

Now, let's say, for the sake of simplicity, that every day after this, 6 people voted her Innocent and 5 people voted her Guilty. Obviously this is a massive oversimplification, not everyone votes the same way every day, but I'm trying to explain the basic idea here. Thus, Day 1 would look like this.

36 Inno votes, 15 Guilty votes. So, a difference of 21 votes in the favor of Innocent. You would think this means her inno percentage would go up, yeah?

Except, if you do the math here, the spilt is 70,59%/29,41% (rounding a bit liberally here). Her percentage went down almost 5%.

That seems weird. Let's extend this over a few more days and see what it looks like afterwards. Let's skip to Day 20.

150 Inno votes, 110 Guilty votes. The difference is now 40 votes, double what it was originally.

And yet, when you do the math, the split is now 57,7%/42,3% (again rounding a decent bit). Again, even though in absolute terms Amane is even further from being guiltied than before, it sure doesn't look like it!

This is what I meant at the start. The percentages in the website don't change based on the results of an individual day, but rather, they change to always more closely align with what an "average day" of voting looks like. In this example, the "average day" is 6 Inno votes, 5 Guilty votes, for a total of 11 and thus a 54.54%/45.46% split. This creates a particular behavior, which can be observed by looking at Day 21.

156 Inno votes, 115 Guilty, a difference of 41 votes and a 57.56%/42.44% split. You'll notice the inno percentage went down from ~57,7% to ~57.56%, a 0.14% decrease. But the decrease from Day 0 to Day 1 was almost 5%, remember?

That's because the average split (54,54%) is acting as an asymptote of the function Inno percentage vs Time. I say it "acts like" because I know 0% about statistics so I'm not sure if that term is appropriate here, but it's a good visualization of what's happening I think. In case you somehow don't know what that is, I'll give you an example.

That's the function 1/x. As you can see, it has a horizontal asymptote in f(x) = 0. That means it always gets closer and closer to the constant 0, but never "touches" it (no matter what it may look like), and certainly never "crosses" it. Additionally, as you can see, it follows a very particular behavior. It has a very steep "drop-off" at "the beginning" (mathematicians please don't hate me for the very coloquial terms I'm using), then gets progressively "slower" as it approaches the asymptote.

Sound familiar? It's what we were talking about before, how the bigger the difference between the current voting percentage and the average, the faster it drops. It's "correcting" towards the asymptote, the average.

If you've been paying close attention, you'll notice this is vaguely what's been happening with Amane's Inno percentage. Here's a graph from this post by iris-drawing-stuff (thank you so much I love graphs). It only goes up to the seventh of September, but the behavior can already be observed.

As you can see, after the brief spike immediately after the release of Purge March, Amane's percentage drops like 5% in just about two days, but then it took it around 4 or 5 days to drop another 5. And anecdotally, I think I saw it only drop like ~0.22% in a day recently, so it would take almost five days to drop just 1 percent.

And you can even see a similar thing on Mahiru's and Kazui's. Mahiru, who didn't have many oddities, stayed practically constant around her aymptote, while Kazui slowly corrected for the whole "circumstance" of people voting out of superstition.

Again, this is much more complex than a simple asymptote, because there's a lot of fluctuation here. People join the fandom, people stop voting, etc. But we can probably (I am not very educated on this) expect it to "slow down" even more in the following days, until it reaches a certain average percentage it will hover around until voting ends. Until this happens, it is highly unlikely Amane's inno percentage goes up significantly ever again, but there is a certain percentage it will likely not go under. It's also important to keep in mind that since there's only a finite time the voting will be open, we might not get as close to the 'asymptote' as we possibly could.

The one exception, as many have already predicted, might be the release of Double, where One Time Voters may return to the page and vote Amane Inno once again. Frankly, I think at that point there will be too many days of "average" for that to make a noticeable difference, but even if it does go up, it will likely go down again quickly after One Time Voters leave again. Be prepared for that.

The final question is logically: where is the asymptote? That I cannot tell you, but it's very clear that it's around 50% and it isn't a blow-out on either side. So keep voting, regardless of whether you're voting her Inno or Guilty, because her situation is still very delicate.

Personally, by eye-balling it, I'm sorta hoping she hovers somehwere between 52 and 53 inno percent, but I'm immensely biased. I just don't think my heart will be able to take it if she ever goes below 51%, and I will cry if she ends up with like 49% and gets guiltied.

I don't want to give anyone too much false hope. There is absolutely a chance she ends up Guilty. I'm just saying it's not certain in the slightest, at least not for now.

I did try my best to figure something out with the power of overlaying images, but I'm not confident on sharing my results because they suck and are probably massively biased and I have a phobia of being wrong on the interned (/j) (though the things I did do suggest Amane never drops below 50% inno, I hope I'm right about that and I'm not just doing insane gymnastics for the result I want).

Anyways, I hope that could give some insight on what the deal with Amane's percentage might be, though again I am not a mathematician by any means, feel free to correct me if when you see anything I got wrong. Take care! And Inno voters, don't lose hope! And Guilty voters, uh, thanks for reading too!

[milgram-confessions-011]

amane t2 vote discourse is so annoying on both sides (as an amane t2 inno voter who stands by her vote) Amane inno voters need to accept that Amane guilty voters arent child torturers, but Amane was genuinely threatening to cause harm and it was a legitimate threat to be concerned about. "but muu wasn't forgiven for damage control!!" yeah because getting blackmailed is cringe even if it costs haruka's life. And also, people /are/ going to prioritise the lives of their own favourites because they ARE a biased species. Amane guilty voters need to accept that yes we knew amane has capacity to cause harm! We processed her warning! We just prioritised her life over shidou's because again. people will prioritise their own favourites as we are a biased species. We also considered the possibility that guiltying her might enable her further (if haruka committed suicide BEFORE being restrained, why couldn't Amane commit murder pre-restraint as well? And being voted guilty might only provide more of a motive for her). And also, Amane isn't "too far gone", she has potential to change. Amane's current state in t3 reflects both arguments to forgive and not to forgive her: Yes, forgiving her made her less likely to latch upon her previous cult and find a new standard of judgement (which is what the inno voters wanted). BUT, it also enabled her to kill Shidou.

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[mukuroom]

the fandom wouldve been more fun if people got more silly with their votes i think... too late now but the most you'll see is "i vote to keep people safe" or "i vote for whatever causes the most drama" or "i judge purely based on their murders and nothing else". wheres the people voting completely in-line with what amane's cult would want. where's the people advocating for guiltying all but kotoko so she can deliver her justice completely. where's the all-innoers who do it not bc they think its the best choice but bc muu wanted it and they are helpless haruka kinnies. we shouldve gotten sillier with it. all discourse would be irrelevant, all that would matter would be commiting to the bit

[oboetemasuka]

Being an Amane fan during her voting

Scream at the votes going down

Cheer when the rate slows down

Scream at Kotoko for saying she was going to attack Amane

Hug Amane when the forgiven verdict is locked in

"But what if Kotoko did attack Amane?" (x)

Make bad things happen to Amane (x)

Make more bad things happen to Amane (x)

Make-

OW OW OW OW OW-

[oboetemasuka]

18 hours remain

We can do this Amane Inno Truthers...

[dearmahiru-archive]

8 and 24? 👀👀👀

for reference here is the ask game!

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

oo i'm not the greatest at judging collective opinions but if i'd to pick then it'd be the notion mu doesn't care about haruka's wellbeing in the slightest. even in my mu-hater arc i knew mu treasured haruka in some fashion. yeah she treated her "friends" poorly (and they were even worse to her) but she did some pretty drastic things to try and keep her friend group!

either that or the whole "innocent votes have no affect on the prisoners" because it's just flatly not true and it's only an excuse to vote a character guilty. it reads to me, "yes i'm well aware this character will mentally suffer from nightmares but they won't have character development otherwise!" (and then they accuse fuuta of not learning his lesson which is just. lol. lmao.)

24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

i adore amane as a character but discussions surrounding her character exhausts me. she is a tragically abused child and she is capable of great harm, neither are mutually exclusive.

if amane was voted innocent in the first trial then i genuinely believe she would've attempted to kill mahiru as a result of her ideology being reinforced. "i did a good thing killing the child i was supposed to heal, therefore i am justified in taking the life of someone tainted like her." and she'd be treated like kotoko 2.0

but that didn't happen and therefore people sob "you're all stupid for thinking the guilty vote would immediately change her mind that's not how it works!" unless of course they try to guilty a character to not reinforce their mindset because then it's all bees and daisies.

but then theres also people who speak past amane's actual character and zero-in completely on the cult stuff, or those who brush past the cult stuff and focus solely on the traumatized child aspect, and it's all so frustrating. and the way milgram's writing seemingly basking in the moral dilemma of amane's case whilst not providing any clues on how to achieve a happy ending with amane low-key pisses me off. it's the equivalent of the trolley problem in my eyes: frustrating all across the board!

that is to say i am really excited for purge march! i hope she beats our ass with a metal pipe like she did to her victim she deserves it

[gunsli-01]

Hear me out Milgram fans are full of contradictions. From the well all we can do is vote to even if I did abstain from voting other people will just vote anyhow prisoner dilemma. Despite fandom unionization quite literally being an option even if it's significantly difficult to achieve it's still very much possible and it would be funny to see what happens if the fandom just pushes forth the agenda to not vote on one specific character this round and sticks to it. Can you tell i'm a bit chaotic from that last point cause I can.

Then we've got points like objectively the prisoners are all bad, wrong is wrong to okay wrong is still wrong except when found subjectively sexy or funny then it's fine actually no I will not think critically on this brain off. It's not that serious/deep chill and just have fun to if you hate x prisoner you're actually just a bad person lol. They're all neurodivergent and not taking that into account is a form of ableism even if it's not technically confirmed going into being neurodivergent does not mean accountability for one's actions can be avoided actually that's just the same issue in reverse. Wait what do you mean this contradicts several defenses I've given other characters and I can't just pick and choose when neurodivergencies should be taken into consideration based on how much I like the character or not ha, ha funny.

Like honestly it would be great to actually get together as a fandom and agree to not vote on Amane at all just to see what happens. Or any other character who's not too controversial I just chose Amane because I haven't really seen any discourse around her. However, it's really difficult to think objectively when things are being taken so personally at times.

The fact that people are getting so heated means the social experiment aspect is working but that may reflect poorly on the people involved as a whole at this point. Yet honestly it's doesn't escape me that attempting something like that is a big ask. Just spreading that sort of plan around in the first place would be difficult in and of itself. Given the diversity of the fandom even if it's not that large yet most people in it speak completely different languages. A good chunk of fans aren't bilingual. This throws a considerable wrench in communication when it comes to longterm planning and collaborative efforts.

Still, it's not like it wouldn't be fun to try. Like if the prisoners are rebelling against milgram in their own ways what's stopping the fanbase from doing the same? We're probably in a more comfortable position to do so as well since we can't be punished for it. The other thing stopping this from happening is the fact that right now we're all focused on fighting each other more than the system. Which is a very easy way for all sides to lose actually.

These contradictions aren't bad in and of themselves they're just variations in opinion but I feel like in this case when people go to extremes over things as small as liking or disliking a character they become blinded to the actual issue. That being we're all worried for the safety of characters we care about due to the harshness of a system we have very little control over.

At least in the original experiment they told you what the voltage outcome of the button press was but we're just gambling at this point with a vague explaination of what our input will do with other factors attatched on. That for all we know will just keep growing.

It's really reflective of real life. We're all so focused on survival that we've ultimately misplaced blame on others within the fandom who don't agree with our specific views. Turning into factions fighting eachother when literally no one would be at risk if Milgram didn't bring them here. Especially since it's heavily implied most of them weren't even caught by the actual police for their crimes cause some of them imply they were taken from their homes and Milgram itself has no relation to the justice system. So, getting called out by the characters for these collective judgements seems really fair given the fact that we have a plethora of choices but we're just blindly following the stated rules.

[oboetemasuka]

(I hope I don't jinx anything... *knocks on wood*)

I've been looking at a voting graph (from Pai, I think it was). Pretty much everyone had a noticeable bump at the time of the next video coming out.

Maybe Amane might get a voting boost when Mikoto's video comes out (and Kotoko's too, since their voting will overlap by a day). I remember when Mahiru and Kazui's votes went up after The Purge March came out. It seemed as if people went to vote for Amane and thought, "Oh no, why is Kazui guilty? Better fix that!"

Man I hope when mikoto voting starts people will remember to vote amane Innocent again because things are not looking good over there :/

[harfeilsalmeron-blog]

Purpose of Media and                        Information Literacy

The increasingly complex view of media and information, which plays a major role in our daily lives, is rapidly changing.  It is constantly changing the way we communicate, empower and challenge human rights, freedom of expression, universal access to information, peace building, sustainable development, and intercultural dialogue. People around the world are becoming content creators with a mindset of global citizenship participation in social issues, and not just a passive public acting as spectator and occasional voting constituency. In many countries, the sources of information that until now have been difficult to access, are today limited only by our ability to absorb vast amounts of rapidly transmitted information. 

This comes with challenges. It is difficult for people to determine what credible information is amidst the proliferation. It is sometimes unclear about how to respond, share and/or comment. How individuals and collectives can provide fresh content to the growing stock of shared knowledge is not always clear. Thus, media and information literacy (MIL) competencies are becoming increasingly important – a necessary response in this media and information landscape.

 This is especially relevant today, as the world is witnessing an unprecedented increase of polarization, hate speech, radicalization and extremism taking place both offline and online. Often embedded in a “discourse of fear”, it challenges human rights and disrupts human solidarity.

MIL is a powerful tool, cutting across educational, cultural and social contexts. It can help overcome the disinformation, stereotypes and intolerance transmitted through some media and in online spaces. Here, stimulating critical empathy is one of the key components and there are many stakeholders that have a role to play in this dimension of MIL.

Furthermore, MIL empowers people to be curious, to search, to critically evaluate, to use and to contribute information and media content wisely. MIL calls for competence in knowing one’s rights online; fighting online hate speech and cyberbullying; and understanding ethical issues regarding access to and use of Information. In this way, MIL makes it possible for people to interact with the media and ICT’s to promote equality, free expression, intercultural and interreligious dialogue, and peace.

-Aman, Fatima Salmeron Harfeil

12-Nobility 02/26/2021

[kerahlekung]

Belajaq cara Cina berniaga bukan BMF...

Belajaq cara Cina berniaga bukan BMF....

Story kat sini...

Genting dilaporkan akan jual kepal Equanimity milik rakyat Malaysia melalui penipuan Jhow Low dengan keuntungan sebanyak US$74 juta. Genting membeli kapal itu daripada kerajaan dengan harga AS$126 juta, dan katanya ia ditawar untuk dibeli dengan harga US$200 juta. Jadi untung atas angin bagi Genting sebanyak US$74 juta. US$74 juta dalam tempoh enam bulan. Selepas membelinya Genting menamakan kapal itu sebagai Tranquility ia diberi sewa dengan kadar US$1.2 juta seminggu. Genting sudah memiliki kapal itu selama enam bulan, bayangkan berapa dikutip oleh Genting dalam tempoh itu. Persoalannya kenapa tidak ada mana-mana pihak untuk menguruskan kapal itu seperti mana dilakukan Genting. Siapa bertanggungjawab dan memberi idea agar ia dijual? Apakah disini tidak ada permainan kongkalikong atau songlap menyonglap. Nampak sangat akan "penipuan" dan kelicitannya dan kebodohan?  Dalam sudut lain wahai orang Melayu khasnya yang melancarkan kempen BMF, perhati dan belajarlah berniaga daripada orang Cina, kerja mudah untung besar. Baru dah dapat dua tiga buah negeri mendabik dada setinggi gunung kaf. - mso

Pemimpin veteran DAP Lim Kit Siang memberi amaran bahawa usaha untuk membubarkan kerajaan Pakatan Harapan pasti akan menyebabkan kleptokrat dan individu korup lain melepaskan diri daripada diadili di mahkamah. Pada ucapan yang disampaikan di Bintulu, Sarawak malam tadi, Lim berkata matlamat Wawasan 2020 untuk menjadikan Malaysia negara maju tidak dapat dicapai pada tempoh yang dirancang sebelum ini.

Jelasnya, dalam usaha untuk menggerakkan Malaysia ke arah kemajuan rakyat perlu memastikan bahawa kleptokrat pada masa lalu perlu diadili supaya Malaysia boleh "menjadi negara peneraju integriti." "Inilah sebab penting kenapa pihak yang mahukan kehidupan yang lebih baik di masa hadapan untuk semua rakyat Malaysia, tanpa mengira bangsa, agama atau wilayah, perlu bersatu supaya memastikan perang terhadap kleptokrasi dan rasuah diteruskan bagi mencapai matlamatnya yang munasabah. "Ini hanya dapat dicapai jika kerajaan PH tetap utuh, tegas dan komited untuk mencapai matlamat sebuah negara yang bersatu, adil, demokratik, harmoni dan tidak korup," kata Lim, menurut satu salinan ucapannya yang disediakan kepada akhbar hari ini.

Petualang2...

Lim berkata Malaysia mesti berada di peringkat teratas 30 negara di dunia dari segi integriti dalam jangka masa satu dekad dan mendesak semua pihak untuk bekerja sama ke arah matlamat ini. "Saya tahu ramai rakyat Malaysia yang bertanya mengapa bekas perdana menteri, Najib Razak, yang ditanggapi di seluruh dunia sebagai kleptokrasi global, belum lagi dipenjarakan. "Bagaimanapun, kita mesti konsisten mahu memulihkan kedaulatan undang-undang dan rakyat Malaysia mesti menerima proses undang-undang yang wajar mengambil masa," katanya.

Geng Kartel...

Pada Selasa, Pemimpin tertinggi empat parti gabungan PH mengeluarkan kenyataan menuduh Naib Presiden Umno Hishammuddin Hussein berkomplot membentuk kerajaan baru tanpa DAP dan Amanah. Pemimpin PH pula mendakwa pembangkang yang terlibat dalam komplot itu sedang berdepan kemungkinan akan didakwa. Hishammuddin telah menafikan dakwaan tersebut walaupun pelbagai sumber memberitahu Malaysiakini MP Sembrong serta dua tokoh Bersatu dan pemimpin PKR terlibat dalam usaha yang dikatakan itu. - mk

Hikayat si anjing kurap...

Din lupa ke dulu. Bila Din gaduh dengan Najib Razak dan pemimpin umno. Din datang melutut kat kaki pemimpin PKR. Dulu Din hina keluarga Anwar Ibrahim. Macam macam Din fitnah Anwar Ibrahim. Dengan muka tak malu Din jumpa Datuk Seri Wan Azizah dan anak anak dia. Wan Azizah dan anak anak maafkan Din. Din pegi mahkamah dengan Azmin Semburit mengiringi Tun Mahathir. Din salam cium tangan Anwar Ibrahim. Din mintak maaf dengan Anwar Ibrahim. Din janji akan berperangai baik dan tak akan fitnah Anwar Ibrahim. Dan Din juga pernah kata. Kalau betul PH menang pru14. Lepas Tun Mahathir jadi pm ke 7. Anwar Ibrahim orang yang paling layak menganti Tun Mahathir. Kempen kempen politik sebelum pru14. Din pernah kata Anwar Ibrahim terbaik. Anwar Ibrahim sepepu din. Din sanggup duduk dalam penjara sebelah Anwar Ibrahim. Ramai yang percaya ceramah din masa tu. Termasuklah aku nama aku din jugak orang panggil.

Kononya keluar dari PPBM nak tumpu kes mahkamah. Kalau betul nak tumpu kes mahkamah. Kenapa dalam masa yang sama masuk parti AMANAH.Sumber sumber ceta dari kawan kawan parti PPBM. Khairuddin keluar dari ppbm sebab tak dapat jawatan penting dalam PPBM.  Selepas pru14. PH menang tawan putrajaya. Tun Mahathir jadi perdana menteri. Dan Anwar Ibrahim bebas dengan pengampunan Di pertuan agong. Tak sampai dua tahun pemerintahan kerajaan PH. Tetiba Din berubah. Din serang dan fitnah Anwar Ibrahim. Din kata Anwar tak layak jadi pm. Apa yang keluar dari mulut Anwar. Din akan kecam. Rupa rupanya Din tak berubah. Din tetap Khairuddin Abu Hassan yang dulu seperti anjing kurap. Pembodek penjilat taik tetap ada pada diri Din. Sekarang ni ramai dah tak percaya dengan Din. Satu benda yang aku tak sabar nak tengok. Anwar Ibrahim angkat sumpah jawatan perdana menteri di depan Agong. Apa akan jadi dengan Din. Kau orang jangan terkejut kalau Din mengaku Anwar Ibrahim atok saudara dia.  - mat alishah

To extremists, all roads lead to DAP...

The sustained attacks against DAP is going to have repercussions on the kind of Malaysia young people are going to inherit. Right now, elements within and without the Pakatan Harapan government are creating a narrative that DAP is a “racist” political party out to destabilise Malay political hegemony. This, of course, is nothing new. What is new is that not only has DAP have to contend with its agitated base since gaining federal power, they also have to be mindful of the political structures which want them to become the next MCA. Zakir Naik, the alleged money-launderer, religious whisperer to radicalised youths and currently enabled by Harapan’s religious czar, Mujahid Yusof Rawa, not to mention the prime minister of this country, has the temerity to sue elected representatives. He campaigned for Umno telling the Malay majority to vote for corrupt leaders rather than for non-Muslim leaders who were not corrupt. In my last piece, I wrote about the counter-narrative of Hindu-phobia being crafted to marginalise the low-hanging fruit of the racial discourse in this country, the Indian community. These lawsuits are the second prong in the attack against Indian politicians for speaking truth to power but more importantly, belling the cat when it comes to imported extremism in this country.

DAP veteran Lim Kit Siang does the same when he asks if Malaysia is prepared for the coming Islamic State (IS) storm. The most important quote from his piece is this one, “The violence perpetrated by pro-IS groups in this region has been episodic and uncoordinated, but the underlying trend is clear - the IS has shifted away from its initial concern with sovereignty over land and people, moving, in the process, toward a decentralised, global insurgency model.” In Malaysia, this is especially dangerous because of the narrative that Islam is under threat in this country. Returning Malaysian IS fighters would no doubt find easy pickings in disenfranchised youths who believe the narrative that Islam is under threat in this country and that DAP (for instance) is attempting to subvert Islamic rule. Now, of course, we have this LTTE sham. Think about how dangerous this is. Think about how dangerous this is to DAP politicians, activists and grassroots-level operators who are attempting to reach out to the majority and find themselves soft targets for individuals or groups inspired by the IS lunacy and mainstream narratives claiming that DAP is anti-Islam. However, the grander narrative - the “Chinese narrative” of usurpation of power - is complicated by the internal machinations of Malay power structures. Do not expect this to hamper efforts to stymie whatever reforms are on the table while someone like Zakir Naik keeps telling the majority that it is better to vote for corrupt Muslim leaders than non-Muslims who could actually help reform the system.

Kuala Nerus MP Mohd Khairuddin Aman Razali (PAS)(above) appealing to the rulers to issue a decree not to question the "social contract" while trolling Harapan to expel DAP and asking the state security apparatus to investigate the party, is the slowly coagulating narrative to be used against the Chinese community, specifically targeting the DAP. The fact that academics, activists and politicians have finally found their voice and exposed the "social contract" as the fraud that it is, is an inconvenient truth for the far-right and religious extremists. It would not surprise me that in the coming weeks there are moves to codify this “social contract” with the usual state sanctions against anyone who questions it. Remember that in mainstream Malay politics, the "social contract" is used as a stand-in for the constitution when the reality is that the social contract has nothing to do with the Malaysian constitution. No doubt there will be moves to see this corrected. This is why the PAS MP talks about the racist rhetoric of Malay Dignity Congress organiser Zainal Kling (pix,below) in terms of corresponding to the Malaysian constitution and not an abrogation of its intent - legal and moral. Like I said, what we have are the first tentative steps in an attempt to restrict any attempt to combat racism and bigotry by sanctifying racism and bigotry as instruments of the constitution.

This is exactly what the resolutions of the so-called dignity forum were all about. What these charlatans want to do is make it illegal to question ideas which for years have been the basis of dissent in this country. Ideas propagated by, among others, DAP. The main idea of which is that all Malaysians should be equal under the Malaysian sun. When student activist Wong Yan Ke demonstrates against the "racist" vice-chancellor, what he is doing is really drawing attention to a greater Malaysian problem. What is this greater problem? Well, for me, it is that mainstream political discourse is racist. We have racist politicians who use something like the "social contract" to discourage dissent. This is why these right-wing NGOs attempt to paint Wong as a puppet of DAP. This is why they use their Malay rights as a sword against equality and anti-racism. Yan Ke is just collateral damage in a conflict against egalitarianism in this country. A conflict against equality. And the first target will always be DAP. - Commander (Rtd) S.Thayaparan

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Datuk Seri Mohd Redzuan Md Yusof nanti dia tiru pulak...

cheers.

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[oboetemasuka]

I heard through the the grapevine that Yamanaka said on Milgradio that Amane is getting enough love to drown out the hate.

I'm glad.

(Don't quote me on that. It's like a game of telephone here.)