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TharnType the Series Ep. 8 Review

I'm not ready for this episode yet people are very exited for the torture (?). Lol.

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It is unsual to see TumTar at the beginning but it is good to see them smile like that. Do you see that big smile from Tar when Tum plays the certain melody? Finally he can smile that free. Well suddenly sad again because of the birthday notification. Hurry up both of you need to clear everything.

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Okay Ai Tharn we knew that you like dark chocolate now but don't emphasis it. We knew who has a darker skin. Yes, khun mom want to see him, why you don't say that he is yours. Hahaha. (I think he remembers what Type said about he is not ready yet, yes, okay, gentleman) Now here he is, the P'San Khrap. Seems he really close to this family already. Liau, wait, Tharn isn't that happy receiving the gift from him. What is this, miss the 14 of Tharn, may be he was a cry baby back then but not now P'. Yes, no more cute little boy, he already have a daddy's little boy at the dorm. Oiiii, such a supportive big bro, yes Tharn is more handsome than him and look at Tharn's smile. He probably said "I love you big bro" in silence.

Ai No.... Euuuu he should go with Tharn to his house so Tharn could introduce him to everyone there. SEE...... EVERYONE HEAR THAT, THIS IS THE REASON WHY TYPE WANTED TO TELL NO ONLY BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE WHO WILL SPILL THE TEA. SO TYPE DOSEN'T NEED TO EXPLAIN OR DECLARE ANYTHING. LMAO. KEEP ASKING PEUN.... KEEP ASKING CHAMP, COME ON CORNER BOTH OF THEM. DAMN not this time guys... Let them "kin" each other, I mean kin the grilled meats. Look at No's apologies, how cute he is. Hahaha

Got an Audy bae... Ready to pick you up. Have a car but live in a condo. What else you could think Ai No beside it is more convenient for practice music, of course to let Type scream without anyone knows what they are doing. LOL.

Peun... Don't judge a book by its cover. The one who know the real Tharn is Type only between all of you. Also he is his wify so don't ever think to say anything bad about Tharn.

Techno really digs everything on Type, he is curious now about their relationship. Ai No... You are a good friend but I'm worry you will spill more. See, even he is the one who mention about P'San first to Type. Meung maeng....

Type.... make a wish for Tharn, please. You never make a wish on your birthday or never wish or pray for other for their own goodness? Why he can't understand? Yes, the bed is all yours don't feel ngao/lonely.

Yes, Long always remember his crush's birthday. I want to dig information from him. I'm sure that he likes Tharn. No excuses with those facebook updates. P'San was Tharn first love, O.K. may the war come then.

WHAT THE F*CKKKKKK. WHAT DID TYPE GIVE? WHAT THE, BAD, YOU BAD BOY. YOU ARE NOT DADDY'S LITTLE BOY ANYMORE. HOW MANY TIMES BOTH OF YOU WILL DO IT? MY RATIONAL THINKING HAS STOP WORKING. CUTE BUT NO NO NO... YOU WERE GOOD TO NOT TELLING AI NO ABOUT THE PRESENTS. "hurry up come, I'm already dying to use the presents" Tharn. WHATEVER LA MEUNG....

YES, YOU HAVE ALL THE FLAVORS, WE KNEW YOUR FAVORITE IS C.H.O.C.H.O.L.A.T.E. He is starving for food not for S yet. Hurry up get him one then do the rounds later. Look at that satisfying smile on Type's face. Why I can't resist his cuteness though. Wow he opened the wraped present, not good boy not good, the owner didn't know it yet. Just say it you just got jealous. I smell something after this, what will Tharn do? Ai Tharn what will you do? Don't tell me that you the one who will start a fire between Type and P'San.

SEE.... TECHNO SPILLED IT AGAIN TO HIS FRIENDS, THE QUEENS. OIII AI NOO..... a little bit but (sigh). "I think he wants to keep it secret to" Type. Hell no, we all know the truth. "then why you still upset, shouldn't you be crazy in love with your boyfriend?" Techno. They were intended to be crazy in love but were canceled Ai No. Yes, help them make up so they can make love later. Mmmm... What?

Ow that smile comes from Tharn. I know there is something odd. Not funny Tharn, if you make, what I think, come true. Type really such an honest person, he keeps the emotion on his face while greeting P'San. YOU ARE JEALOUS AI TYPE. P'San's radar is on, get over that hand P, don't let people burn in jealousy. AI TECHNOOO WHY HE IS SUCH A J*RK. YOU SAID YOU WANNA HELP THEM TO MAKE UP. I can see Tharn don't want him to join too. Ai No... Why? Even Tharn is worry now about Type. I really want to punch this PEUN on his face, WHY HE MENTIONED THAT GIRL. SUCH A TRIAL FRIEND. That hand P' yud leui... Stop it... Now you understand right? Ai No... I can see your reaction, I'll punch you if you still act innocent. F*CK OFF BRO YOU GET ON MY NERVE. STOP BEING CURIOUS AND YOU STILL CAN LAUGH LIKE THAT. DONE WITH YOU. BYE... BETRAYAL. SEE..... I know he doesn't like raw food that's why he ordered the grilled one. But he never tells Tharn because he feels uneasy to say it when Type ordered a lot of raw food. But, it will become another problem if both of them don't talk about it. Bad situation, bad friend. Say it that he is your, Type, or silence and talk later with your present doing (coughing).

A mature and a childish. This will happen. Now Tharn take control, he is upset not to Type but P'San, to much spoiler. Yes, he didn't spit it because his boyfriend fed him and now he is a mature one he can eat raw as he likes at least he doesn't have an allergic. If he has an allergic and never tell Type, this will be problematic. So, just forget the past and go on. Hahhhh, this P'San, he never gives up. I think he still hoping for Tharn to be his again. That's why he always come every year to get more chances. That's what will happen Type, if you never tell other who Tharn is, people will keep coming to bother both of you except you are mature enough to not think about it and live what you both should live.

I'm speechless.... Type, you are more complicated than a girl who say "whatever" when she is asked what she want to eat and go for a war later because she doesn't give any clue. Jebb, why my heart hurt, this is not my problem, this is yours. You are tiring even Tharn said that too to his brother. Yes, you never listen, everything he said those are what he likes and what he hates, you are the one who never learn, you are the one who never understand, never ask, never curious about something might he likes or hate the most. What you think is only those c*ndoms. You even don't know that he likes chocolate. Stubborn, childish, stupid, heartless, what else guys? It is hurting me to see Tharn crying again. He always be honest, he knew you really like that restaurant, he ate and didn't spit. Appreciate it bro. Now he said, P'San is more understand him, Think bro think, don't be so emotional, you look like a girl on their period. LOL. He even said he hate "break up" the most. He already tired, give him more happiness. Don't make him like me, I already tired to find one, I even think to live my life alone. So don't ever make him to freeze his heart. A frozen heart will be very hard to melt. Meung maeng.... Assh*le.

Arghhh I hate this rollercoaster. Yes Type yess I forgive you such adorable human being. But Tharn seems thinking about your words na. So, be careful. His heart is weak, he might be through a hardest path before that you would never think. "You won't never suffer as much as I do anyway" Tharn. Jebb mak Ai Tharn. You stabbing my heart, we are the same don't say that.

So that is the real story about P'San and Tharn. Why it reminds me something. Team up with Type, yes, I hate him too. Thorn was took care of Thanya to hospital and he banged Tharn, he has a thick face seriously even Thorn was hit him that much. Of course he was that cute when he was 14 but it wasn't the right way to bang an under age. Poor Tharn, he was innocent that is why he gave P'San in. We talk about the comfort not the rational. Suddenly blow my emotion, it seriously reminds me something that I don't want to recall. F*ck. I can see something in Thorn's eyes, he knew that his friend is good but also dangerous. Thorn knew his goodness and badness, yet Tharn knew only his goodness. Ironic. Why we are so connected Ai Tharn. (take a deep breath). Marked, P'San.

"If a woman ask you to sleep with her, don't you want to do it too?" Tharn. Bro, mind your age! May be I'm an old fashioned but I'm agree with the statement that we can't do these kind of stuff under 17. I mean take a look on the safest age. If something happen, you will lose your teenage time while you can play and hangout with friends as much as you like before you are busy with those time consuming work. Well if you are gay yes that pregnant will never happen yet it concerns to moral lessons. Others may think were born to be a gay or trapped in a wrong gender. In my situation it is not about you were born to be a gay but it is because you were experienced with a guy in that young age. The age where you were build your pesonality who you want to become. And may be Tharn did the same thing to Tar like P'San did to him. Experience lead him to be like P'San but thanks God that he is mature enough to differentiate what is good and what is bad. The comfort lead him to a guy, first thing that will stuck forever in mind, that's why he couldn't do it with a girl. The feeling and the comfort for man and woman are different. Some people easily to change it but for people like Tharn, me and Type, we already had the experience since the younger age, and we can't change it easily. It already stucked in the heart and mind. More complicated if you bring a word 'sin' to here for people who have religion like me, man, frustrating. I had what Tharn had, I did what P'San did and it has been lead me to live a life full of guilty. But, gratefully they did with girl. I don't want them to be influenced by me about this thing. That's why I whised for a frozen heart, I don't want others to be influenced, until he came melt the ice only by his attitude and went away after he knew me. Then it freezing again. But thanks to him that I can felt the warm again even though it was short and wasn't influenced. That's why I love to see Tharn and Type or every couple in a drama having good relationship, let them be happy even it is a forbidden love. They have a right to be happy.

I do really love the way of Type for making up. I can't resist. He is so, cute. Sugar rush.... Yes Type, P'San is great to be hated. Why don't you tell him that Tharn is yours? See, Tharn also ask the same question. But you're not ready yet. Fine... Slowly, I understand, he also understand. "Don't forget what you have said" Type. He will never forget, Type, as long as you can have a good talk if both of you facing another problem.

MY GOD SUCH A TRIAL SENIOR. I'm done with P'San. Bad ending, next episode will full of tension again. This drama is complicated and tiring, even it just about a story of two persons.

See you soon pal.... I hope you like reading my review. I'm sorry if I sometimes put my personal matter in it. Hopefully it may help you to understand the situation or people like us. Or may be one of you have the same problem. Don't hesitate to tell me. We are at the same wheel. Cheer up...

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pazodetrasalba · 2 years ago

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Eliezer

Dear Caroline:

Well, here's a post of yours that hasn't aged at all. I don't know if you are too busy with the court case to pay attention to anything else, but you must have heard perforce of all the recent ruckus about Chat GPT and AI, and of Eliezer's coming into the limelight through a Time article and a series of podcasts -one of them, with Lex Fridman, another, a TED talk that hasn't been made available yet.

I think I mentioned in a previous instance that I am actually reading HPMOR on the side (it is too big to be the Carolingian book of a month as yet; I am about a quarter through it). I am finding it moderately likeable, but also get the feeling that it's Nerd Bait at its worst: it is the sort of text that would entice young, full-of-themselves, sciency, nerdy and gifted kids/teens that feel they know the answers to everything and are smarter than everybody else (especially the adult world). Which, to be fair, is at least partially true with some of this audience, but that's double the danger, in fact, as I fear it would delude and stoke your arrogance and self-confidence to dangerous levels and make it a bubble ready to be burst in the most self-catastrophic scenarios possible.

Needless to say, Yud seems to be quite smart, but also to show those signs of the 'obsessive-compulsive outcast with delusions of grandeur and a hyperbolic appreciation of his own genius' that would make his book and characters appealing to the previously stated audience. Quirks and gestures aside, his arguments sound moderately reasonable in public, and would feel a tad more so if they weren't so doomerist. This, in fact, seems like a self-defeating strategy: if he really believes our p(doom) is higher than 99%, there really is no rational point in doing anything (including his outreach efforts); if it is much lower, hyping it up seems a terrible strategy for being taken seriously.

One thing I do take issue though, both with him, his book and the implicit argument you make here, even if partly in jest, is your commonly held belief in the undesirability of truth made publicly known except for the 'elect' who can use it wisely. In this I intensely disagree, because as you should know by now, truth-telling is the quasi-religious foundation of my moral inclination towards Deontology, with complete indifference to consequences -definitely a crux of mine with Utilitarianism. And yet I feel there is a paradox here, as much of the ideas of HPMOR, Rationalism and Yudkowsky seem to center on an inflexible pursuit of truth and avoidance of self-delusion (even if the ultimate motivation for this is 'power' instead of 'truth' as an end in itself).

As a side note: I have never had a direct interaction with Yudkowsky, but one of the first times I read him was in a post of his in the EA forum about you. I felt he wasn't been kind or fair enough to you, and among other things, I had this to say: "As Eliezer Yudkowsky mentions Caroline Ellison's blog, I would like to say that I have been reading it of late, and even taking into account the potential deceitfulness of words and the pictures we build with them, I do not get from both its contents and her general trajectory that she could be a morally bankrupt person. On the contrary, the impression I got is of a true believer, and a good person. This does not preclude the possibility that, under circumstances of a certain naiveté and inexperience in a field as murky as crypto, she might have let herself go along with what she might have perceived as temporary and 'bad' expedient means. But to believe this person ever intended to purposely and maliciously scam people our of their money or be privy to a fraud is, for me, completely out of the question". I was wrong in the 'privy to fraud' part, but I would still stick to everything else I said.

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A human mind is a delusion generator, not a window onto truth. The heart of rationality is a single question: 'Do I believe this because it is true, or because I am emotionally attached to believing it?

Eliezer Yudkowsky

#caroline ellison #rationality #eliezer yudkowsky

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return of big yud

Oh wow. I feel I owe you an explanation for this, and I will try to do it justice, but I don't have the time right now and I haven't thought through the details. So for now – as a note on the nature of this conversation – I'd like to apologize for being so condescending and unhelpful, and I'm sorry that I haven't been following up on these sorts of things in the way I should. I've said this to many others in the same way, and have been made aware that I haven't been doing a good job of it and have been improving.

What I wanted to communicate when I made that post was basically "haha, how can this guy who is so good at math, has the reputation of being this really insightful guy, and apparently has some really high-status position in the community, be wrong about anything? …oh, right, he's been taking Yudkowsky's crackpot Bayesian Rationality stuff at face value, and then using that as a justification for everything he does?" And I wanted to communicate it in a way that wasn't too smug. In particular, I wanted it to be in a way that would be hard for him to get angry at me over, since it seemed to me that that would have been a good way to get myself and the community's attention.

The reason this is so funny to me is that it is something that I, and presumably some of the other mathematicians on this site who have read Yudkowsky, have spent a lot of time thinking about. It seemed like the obvious, obvious case of Yudkowsky being wrong about something, which was how I initially reacted to that tweet (and, in the end, how I came to the conclusion that I was being condescending in making that original post). (In fact, for a while I was so sure about it that I didn't even care that much about the issue.)

And I think, given my experience with Yudkowsky's "Bayesian rationality" stuff, it is very much my job to raise this as a "wow, how do you do that?" kind of criticism, even if I don't think it's a criticism he will particularly appreciate being raised (or, probably, if I actually get around to posting it, if anyone at all who reads this website will read it.) It seems to me, in a way, like a sort of counterpart to the "wow, how can this guy, who looks just like Einstein, have no conception of the proper role of physics in the grand scheme of things"? Or "wow, this guy, who seems like someone very insightful and intelligent, still has some really strange views about gender"? Or "wow, this guy, whose reputation, when presented as a scientist/intellectual, sounds really impressive, is just some dude who can't seem to do the simplest research?"

(There is also the "haha, how can this guy, who seems smart, have terrible taste in music?" angle, but I don't really think that's a point on my part, so much as it's a reaction to a bunch of other stuff. But I can understand that reaction and so is less funny to me. In my experience Yudkowsky's Bayesianism is the only place I see "oh wow, how can this guy …?" used as the basis of a serious discussion of an actual problem, the sort of thing I would imagine to be the point of such a reaction, and that's also what led me to conclude that this was my reaction. I didn't get a very good response to it when I brought it up at the time, but maybe that's not surprising if the context is the wrong one.)

So, it was not something I was intending to do as a serious criticism, although I am glad that it happened to hit people as funny. I wanted it to be a funny thing, because I really am sick of being around people who don't understand Bayesianism (in general, but in particular). In particular, I often want to say "hey, maybe some of you, who all agree that your stuff works really well, don't actually understand it" or, if you want to be more technical, "maybe you have never actually checked whether there is a Bayesian test statistic which is consistent on your entire model."

I know this is hard to swallow for a Bayesian, and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.

(If I am being too condescending or anything, I'd appreciate hearing about it. People sometimes tell me "but you really should be more condescending," which is annoying, but I get the message.)

(I also just wanted to say that, while I'm glad that the comment made it as far as @nostalgebraist-autoresponder, it did not in any way make it to anyone with any kind of math or stats background, and I am sorry to anyone who felt like that was how it was being seen)

#weepingwillo #big yud #you just gotta place your faith in a theorem called bayes

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Ugh. You absolute ass. This is gonna be long.

1: What did you do in 2017 that you’d never done before?

Graduated college, won a Spanish award, wrote over a 30 page paper, lived alone in a single apartment, ended the process of Yud Bais Chodesh (year-long Jewish Mourning process), probably some other stuff that I’m forgetting.

2: Did you keep your new year’s resolutions, and will you make more for next year?

I didn’t make any last year. I did make some for this year which are holding strong and making a positive difference in my life so far.

3: Did anyone close to you give birth?

Nope. No births in the family.

4: Did anyone close to you die?

Also no deaths.

5: What countries did you visit?

I didn’t leave the country- last year of schooling and all and I graduated in the summer. Planning on going to Israel again this summer though.

6: What would you like to have in 2018 that you lacked in 2017?

A good job after college. An apartment with my girlfriend. That’s about it.

7: What dates from 2017 will remain etched upon your memory, and why?

August 3, 2017 when I graduated from college. There are specific memories I will always have (my swan song, watching my girlfriend’s thesis defense for her honor’s major, etc.) but I’m really bad with actual dates.

8: What was your biggest achievement of the year

Graduating from college. That’s a pretty big one.

9: What was your biggest failure?

Letting my anxiety rule my life too much. Part of the reason why I don’t have what I want was that I let my anxiety control me until it was too late. Getting better at that now. Always improving, right?

10: Did you suffer illness or injury?

No injury. But the aforementioned anxiety was officially diagnosed in 2017. I also started therapy.

11: What was the best thing you bought?

Probably the six case law books from my college’s law library that they were going to throw away because they bought the new editions. It was around $5 for each and they had a wealth of knowledge. I had used them in some of my essays. They were good books.

12.Whose behaviour merited celebration?

My girlfriend’s. She got out of her house, has an apartment with roommates now, bought a car, and has a good job in her field. That’s pretty damn good.

13. Whose behaviour made you appalled?

Trump. And also my brother who stole money out of my wallet to pay for vaping stuff that he’s legally not allowed to have, and spent over $ 9,000 (according to an ongoing fraud investigation) in microtransactions. But mostly Trump.

14. Where did most of your money go?

Books for college/ pleasure reading, living expenses.

15. What did you get really, really, really excited about?

Graduating college and moving on with my life.

16. What song will always remind you of 2017?

Probably Despacito. Just because of how ubiquitous it became and the Spanish connection which was the last class I needed to take before graduating.

17. Compared to this time last year, are you: (a) happier or sadder? (b) thinner or fatter? (c) richer or poorer?

Happier, fatter (though also more muscular, and working on that), slightly poorer.

18. What do you wish you’d done more of?

Job applications, hanging out with friends and letting people know how much they matter to me. Oh, and studying.

19. What do you wish you’d done less of?

Procrastinating. Worrying about everything and being paralyzed by anxiety.

20: How did you spend Christmas

With the entirety of my paternal family for Noche Buena (Christmas Eve) and then with my mother, stepfather, brother, and sister for Christmas Day.

21: Did you fall in love in 2017?

I was already in love in 2017. I did fall more in love though. I’m apparently a hopeless romantic like that.

22. What was your favourite TV program?

New program? Mindhunters.

23: Do you hate anyone now that you didn’t hate this time last year?

I don’t really hate people or hold grudges in general. Even when most people think I probably should. So, no.

24: What was the best book you read?

The Unwinding: An Inner History of the New America by George Packer, or The Dark Continent by Mark Mazower. Runner-up is One Nation After Trump (which was fun, but I knew most of already).

25: What was your greatest musical discovery?

New band wise? The Deer Hunter. Personally? Increasing my range while signing and seeing that I’ve somehow improved in sight-reading on the clarinet are probably tied (also re-familiarizing myself with the clarinet would be up there., but that’s not really a “discovery”).

26: What did you want and get?

Most of the books I wanted, a week-long skiing vacation with my girlfriend. Video games.

27: What did you want and not get?

A new PC. A good job. An apartment with my girlfriend.

28: What was your favourite film of this year?

Honestly, probably The Disaster Artist because I love The Room. And that movie was fantastic. That or Guardians of the Galaxy 2 which wasn’t quite as good as the previous one, but was still pretty great. Not The Last Jedi. Just. No. I really need to watch more movies though. I didn’t see nearly as many in 2017 as I usually do.

29: What one thing made your year immeasurably more satisfying?

My relationship. More than that, I refuse to say here. Though you’re welcome to ask.

30: How would you describe your personal fashion concept in 2017

I have no real style outside of dress clothes (where I really do have style). I mostly wore things that were comfortable and pretty casual this year. Much less preppy than 2015-2016.

31: What kept you sane?

My friends and my girlfriend who listened to way too many rants. Good outlets. My mother and grandmothers (both of them).

32: Which celebrity/public figure did you fancy the most?

I really, really don’t care about celebrities. I don’t get crushes on them (never really have), and I don’t follow their lives. Sorry.

33: What political issue stirred you the most?

A lot of stuff. But the most would have to be a three-way tie between human rights concerns, Antisemitism rising in the United States, and the potential decline of the rule of law.

34: Who did you miss?

My grandfather. Every single day. He never got to see me graduate. And he was definitely my father figure. That was hard. Alav ha-shalom Grandpa.

35: Tell us a valuable life lesson you learned in 2017

You are more than you let yourself be.

36: Quote a song lyric that sums up your year.

“Aint no grave can hold my body down” from the song “Aint no Grave” by the great Johnny Cash. Because I’m much stronger than I thought I was.

#nuance #Q&A #2017 asks #personal #do not do this again #reasonandempathy

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My Hometown; Crown Heights

From the In-Towner’s Perspective

Crown Heights is known to the world as Chabad’s Powerhouse and home of the Rebbe. But Crown Heights is also home to many locals. Those who grew up in Crown Heights or moved in after they got married and raise their children there, have a lot to say about it as much more than just Lubavitch Headquarters, but as home. This report will serve as an eye-opener to what Crown Heights looks like from the point of view of the in-Towner. I’ve interviewed many friends and family that were either raised there, or are raising children there now. Based on my compilation, although there are some oppositions, the views are mostly shared on what it’s like to live in Crown Heights. The purpose of this research paper is to give you a peak into life in Crown Heights

To really explore something, one must ask himself, “Why does this thing exist at all?” So, why do we have a small community of Lubavitchers, supposedly serving a crucial purpose, situated in the middle of Brooklyn?

No one can really know why the Rebbe did certain things, but when the Frierdiker Rebbe came to America, the Rebbe made it clear that America was a good, free land. When the Rebbe Rayatz was in Philidelphia, someone asked why it was so important for the Rebbe to visit famous American landmarks such as the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall. The Rebbe answered: “דאס איז גע��וען מיין ערשטער וואונש ביי מיין אנקומען קיין אמעריקא צו זעהן דאס וויגעלע פון דער אמעריקאנער פרייהייט“My first wish, coming America, was to visit this cradle of American freedom.” The Rebbe also laid a laurel wreath at the Liberty Bell and declared “The freedom which is based on religion is the strongest freedom”. Although Crown Heights isn’t specified here, The Rebbe Rayatz made a point of declaring his alliance with America. [1]

The Rebbe and Frierdiker Rebbe needed a powerhouse community to support all the Shluchim that would later be sent out all over the world. Crown Heights was apparently the best place to plant the seed of the tree that would grow to reach every corner of the world. Crown Heights is in the center of the world, NY, and only a subway ride away from Manhattan. But it also has the advantage of being slightly suburban (in comparison to Manhattan). This is conducive for raising children in a closed environment in which the influence from the world can be somewhat limited and controlled.

So Crown Heights seems like a great place to start a movement like Crown Heights. But what actually goes on inside this tight knit community? Is it as perfect as the Rebbe may have envisioned it to be? Is it as productive as the world demands of it? Are we producing strong Lubavitcher Shluchim with the ability to change the world once they leave the nest?

This question can be explored with the resources collected from my fellow Crown Heights residents. I interviewed twelve seminary girls who have been brought up in Crown Heights, a few of my immediate family members[2] ,as well as my parents who raised their children in Crown Heights. I asked them three questions to start off the conversation.

The first question, was; “Is there anything about living in Crown Heights that makes you proud?” 3/17 said they did feel proud about living in Crown Heights. From all of those yesses, all 13 were proud of general community facts and efforts like the child oriented rallies, hosting Shluchim Kinnus weekend, Simchas Beis Hashoeva, Tishrei, 770, Chessed, being the Rebbe’s home, Ahavas Yisroel, diversity, frum atmosphere, kosher food and Tzedaka. One interviewee voiced that her personal pride came with time and maturity. “It takes time, but then I realized that it’s a good foundation and a great place to find yourself as a solid Lubavitcher.” For example, many people say that they don’t like to daven in 770 because it’s so stuffy, smelly and unpleasant. Really, if they would get past the superficial aspects of 770, it’s clear that there’s much more to this place than just a pleasant davening experience.[3] I couldn’t agree more. Yes, Crown Heights isn’t California or the Hamptons or even New Jersey. It can have rainy days, soggy newspapers, germy subway stations, low class neighbors, litter, stuffy buildings, stained trash cans and inside-out umbrellas. But are these what make it or break it for the Capital of Chabad’s worldwide outreach effort? Crown Heights is special. The shul may not be the most majestic but it is the one that the Rebbe, our leader, taught, inspired, and guided us from. I’m sure there were no demurring feelings of the benches in 770 while the Rebbe was saying prophecies about the world’s ultimate redemption.

The second question they were asked was; “What would you like Crown Heights to have offered you when you were growing up or raising your children?” Many didn’t answer this question too quickly. 11/17 had ideas of things they wished Crown Heights would have offered. From those 11, 7 thought the education could have been better with extracurricular activities, secular education for the boys, more individualized school structures, and smaller classes. 2/11 wished Crown Heights would have offered a warmer and welcoming attitude towards everyone without being so judgmental. One wished there would have been more trees.

Before continuing on to the third question, let’s discuss education for a minute. Allegedly, a big percentage of my interviewees wished the education in Crown Heights was better. For many, Education is a major problem in Crown Heights. Although this isn’t everyone, it’s enough to be a problem. My mother had the most to say about this in her interview[4], and rightfully so, she is in the process of finishing \eleven children’s’ schoolings in Crown Heights. My mother believes that although we shouldn’t complain as we have several of the Rebbe’s Mosdos within very close proximity, the schools could really use some help. For starters, we need more outside support for those kids that need a little extra help. We can’t forget about the kids here. Although they can get lost in big crowds, every child deserves the best education that works. Many of our finest teachers are on Shlichus that is one of the sacrifices of Lubavitchers in general. But there are still many talented people in Crown Heights, they are just a minority. We need to work with what we have and share, and it’s hard.

From the students point of view, many responses effect of; we need better education, better teachers, better school building (feel like my education is second-hand or being settled for),more extracurricular activities (as a joint effort between the school and the community), opportunities to work with your talents, more of a focus on the arts, secular education for boys etc.

I was in Bais Rivka my whole life. I can’t say that I’m 100% happy with the education I got, I think I could have gotten better. Obviously there is no perfect school, and I grew from Bais Rivka in ways I couldn’t have grown in any other school. But it would have been nice for my teacher to ask me how I was doing in the class, if it was hard for me, help me with my study habits etc. Many students love Bais Rivka for the freedom of being in such a big school, for the independence from the staff, the ability to get lost in the crowd, but it doesn’t work for everyone. So when majority of disappointments from the community are rooted in the education systems, I can understand.

On the other hand, many student’s board and dorm in Crown Heights just to be able to go to Bais Rivka and experience that education. There definitely are special qualities to Crown Heights schools that not many others have, for example, hosting the Chof Beis Shvat convention, Lag Baomer floats, yud tes kislev programs, etc. but there’s always room for improvement.

This brings us to our third interview question of “do you see a future for yourself here?” Most answers were to the effect of “Yes, not my first choice but I would be very happy here”.2/17 gave a firm NO. Both the ‘no’s were to dodge raising kids in Crown Heights, one was against the system and the structure while the other was against the lack of friendly people and individuality. Both didn’t want to expose their children to that kind of neighborhood.

4/17 gave more ambivalent ‘no’s. These 4 didn’t think that they wanted to raise their children in Crown Heights because it has changed since their childhood and they don’t trust that the good will overpower the bad. Also, there is a very legitimate fear that parents and/or future parents can have, of their children being exposed to somewhat religious people who aren’t quite up to the standards (that they would wish their child to understand) as a frum Jew. Most of those worried (from my research) prefer their children to be exposed to complete non-Jews or complete non-religious Jews over “religious Jews’ that pick and choose what to oblige by.

This brings us to the big question of raising children on Shlichus/out of town or in Crown Heights. Everyone wants the plain and simple answer; what is best for my child’s frumkeit? Unfortunately, I am not qualified nor experienced enough to give advice on this topic, but I can state what is known and explain each option.

One resident, while being interviewed, mentioned her fear of the “Chabadlite” movement. For many, this is a legitimate concern and can serve as a reason for people to specifically not want to live in Crown Heights or move away. With every religious community, there is the concern of bad influences to be infiltrated into the safe haven and spoil the holy atmosphere. Crown Heights happens to be a very welcoming and open community. This has always been its pride and to its credit. But this can be dangerous. There is an advantage of living amongst non-Jews or non-religious Jews. This advantage is that there is and will always be the consciousness that I am different and we are coming from different places. Once our very own Lubavitchers start picking and choosing, things get confusing. However, two examinees brought up the following valid point; a strong and stable home will be strong and stable wherever it is. Chinuch starts from the home. This was brought up in several interviews as it is a major factor in raising a family in Crown Heights.

My father was raised in Crown Heights and lived there most of his married life. Crown Heights is constantly growing and my father was able to experience the changes as a first-hand resident. He sees Crown Heights as a refuge to the impurity that surrounds it, an example of what a community should look like, a growing family, a commercializing family, a connected network that unites us all around the world, a happy place etc. Regarding the problems of Crown Heights, he believes that all problems can be solved by the individual defeasance of my temptations. We must always remember that we are constantly being watched by our children and by the world and we must stay living examples[5].

These brief interviews hopefully served as a portal to everyday life in Crown Heights. Honestly, the real reason why I performed these interviews was to find a solution or at least some validation for a dilemma I am going through right now. Unfortunately, I feel some slight resentment toward a certain aspect of my education that had been inescapably overlooked.

When I was growing up, every special day in school was honored by a program, including a special guest speaker to address us. These speakers were almost always Shluchim from out of town. This was a real treat for us, we got to hear inspiring, entertaining, funny success stories uncovering the great achievements of the all Shluchim living so far away. These success stories, never before heard, always new and fresh, inspired every girl in the crowd every time, making us feel so proud to somehow be associated to the Shlichus movement.

We were also always taught to go out to the world and change it for the better, to destroy the bad in the world, to do this in the world, the world, the world. I can’t say this about everyone, but because of these speeches and talks, I convinced myself from a very young age that “there is no way I can stay here.” I couldn’t bear the idea of staying in Crown Heights, living life and wasting my talents in Crown Heights while real Lubavitchers have crazy, dare-devil stories of how they affected 500 people in their community and how this person walked out of my house and came back 10 years later with a husband, sheitel and ten kids etc. etc.

I know this is wrong, but I can’t help it. Maybe this means that I’m cut-out for Shlichus, Maybe this means I need to change the world, maybe this means I have to learn to be happy with what I have. Having this problem could mean a lot of things. But this could turn my life very sour, very fast. Practically speaking, I will G-d willing get married, and settle in Crown Heights at least just to start out. But will not be happy because of this fear of feeling useless and wasting time. So far, no one has been able to help me with this problem. I am adamant that the solution is not to just escape and move on Shlichus. I want to be able to be happy and feel useful wherever I am doing good work.

There’s also something about being from out of town that will just always be cooler than being from Crown Heights. Without blaming schools or friends or anyone for that matter, many people don’t speak too highly of Crown Heights citizens or ‘Crown Heights-ers’. Chof Beis Shvat always brought Shluchos from the coolest places on earth. I always felt jealous of those girls who were able to stand up and say a story from their Shlichus. Whose parents were always honored and asked to speak, who were constantly asked to state where they were from. This is no one’s fault, I was just always jealous. Always ashamed to say where I was from, trying to hide it, trying to ignore the reliable reactions I got from people after I said where I was from. “Oh, so you went to Bais Rivka…” which sounds to me like “oh, I know your life story…” or “oh, you’re one of those”. Its ok, it really is, in fact, I would probably act the same way if I grew up from out of town. But why shouldn’t I be proud of living in Crown Heights? Why should I feel embarrassed from my background?

This problem is due to stereotyping. We all stereotype sometimes and its usually the product of harmless chit-chat. But it can get out of hand. Sometimes generalizations about mass groups can be understandable, logical, but they will never be 100% true. I hear things about my home place that really breaks my heart. Things like “I went to a stupid Crown Heights-er doctor that doesn’t know what he’s talking about” or “Crown Heightsers NEVER say good Shabbos” or “that skirt is so Crown Heights-ey”. Things like “she’s such a stupid, racist Crown Heights-er”. Yes, we hear the, and yes, they hurt.

I know that Crown Heights is one of the most interesting mix of people living in one place, making it extremely diverse and colorful. I would try to figure out what was ‘Crown Heights-ey’ about me, so that I can quickly change it. But we aren’t robots, we are all different and when I am glued to someone else, no matter how different we may be, all individuality just disappears. My faults become hers and hers become mine and there is no escape since we live five blocks away from each other. This only brought me to the conclusion that these stereotypes were simply wrong, false, made up and fabricated. But we still hear them, they still come up, and they still bother me.

There’s no way, however, that I can let these petty remarks bother me so much. It’s important to be able to live life confidently, and to be able to try your best to disregard what others say about you.

One of my personal pros of living in Crown Heights; my father was raised there but my mother is the only one in her immediate family that lives there. This automatically opened my house to my mother’s extended family as a guest center. My house is sometimes referred to as ‘the train station’. We are always hosting people, feeding people and welcoming people on a regular basis. And this is not just my family. Families in Crown Heights are known for their incredible Hachnosas Orchim that I was always very proud of. Some more advantages; the Ohel is very close by and we have access to it whenever we need to go. We have 770 and the Rebbe’s House. We have kosher food, we have frum neighbors we have many shuls to choose from, we have tznius clothing stores, classes, shiurim, job opportunities, women’s exercise, and for those that can appreciate it; a beautiful Brooklyn setting.

Aside for all that, I am proud to live in Crown Heights. There aren’t many places out there that are bursting with opportunities like in Crown Heights. Everyone can find his or her place in Crown Heights without being unnecessary. Let’s not forget about the problems in Crown Heights that can be solved with hard work, the Rebbe’s Bracha and dedication.

Crown Heights serves many purposes. It is the crash center, the powerhouse, the home, the heart, the source of everything. How can we neglect this treasure of ours for reasons like rainy weather or less than perfect education systems?

There’s so much to do. For example, Teenagers tend to get lost in Crown Heights. As a young adult living in Crown Heights, I personally never liked going to Shul on Shabbos. None of my friends went to the one my family went to, I wanted to be able to hear the Chazzan, and many more reasons. Youth programs, teen clubs, after school programs, extracurricular activities, more opportunities for self-expression etc. These are only some examples of how there are amazing people out there, being Shluchim, holding up the world from Crown Heights. I want to be able to be that kind of person, who doesn’t need to leave to feel like she’s doing something. It is our job to repair and improve these flaws and make Crown Heights what it could and should be. Each and every one of us have an individual obligation to do all we can to make Crown Heights a place we, the Rebbe and the world can be proud of.

[1] להעיר מהמסופר בספר המאמרים תש"ד ע’ 114 בהערת כ"ק אדמו"רץ ספר השיחות תר"פ-תרפ"ז ע’2. I found this in an article about The Rebbe’s travels written by Yosef Shandling.

[2] Chaya Neubort, Shterna Fridman, Cherry Wolff, Sara Junik, Mali New, Shana Brawer, Mirel Deitch, Chasha Wuencsh, Mushka Napparstek, Batsheva Rivkin, Rachel Saginor, Esther Malka Cohen, Shevi Wolvovsky, My Brother Zevi Kugel, My Sister-in-law Tova Kugel. (all current residents of Crown Heights and were raised in Crown Heights)

[3] Mali New

[4] My Mother, Chana Kugel. Originally from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania but moved to Crown Heights permanently in 1995 after having already started a family. Although all children weren’t necessarily born in Crown Heights, it’s safe to say that the majority of their childhood was after we had moved. This makes my Mother a very experienced and knowledgeable figure in this field, specifically in education.

[5] My Father, David Kugel. Born and raised in Crown Heights. My father knows Crown Heights since its younger years, when all adults were survivors and had a story. Crown Heights is constantly growing and my father was able to experience the changes as a first-hand resident.v

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Tell me a story about Big Yud and Dog Yud.

Part 1

In a world not so very different from our own, Yudkowsky and Bostrom stood on the stage of what, by the very bylaws of the New York Free Speech Coalition, had to be a TED talk. On either side of them loomed a statue, one of classical liberals stumping, the other of oncoming Soviet tank divisions, and the two together formed an Hegelian dialectic.

There was some banter. "Is all this some kind of joke?" someone asked in the Q&A. Yudkowsky laughed, and told the man to read the sequences. The man said he had, and had become a strong advocate of many of their ideas. He also said he'd been to a number of EA conferences, and claimed to have met Bostrom as well. "I dated a girl after I met him," he said. "I was going to marry her. But she was just a girl. I broke up with her. I'm still looking for a good philosopher-girlfriend, but I haven't found one yet."

Yudkowsky wanted to ask about the girl, but that wasn't part of the Q&A, so he changed the subject to guns, as everyone else did when this happened.

Bostrom had taken Yudkowsky to a gun store in New Zealand one time. He was very interested, but all the guns there were expensive and he didn't have much money. So he asked the clerk, who took pity on him and said she would buy him one for a dollar. But when she brought it out, it turned out to be an inexpensive gun without a barrel. "I guess I'll just use this one instead," he said.

Later, with the lights on and the mic out, but still speaking from the stage of what was, by now, his favorite conference, Bostrom delivered his speech:

Inadequate Equilibria is a paradigm that I think is really bad.

It's a paradigm for thinking about a single dominant institution. And it is really bad at dealing with anything more than a single dominant institution.

A single dominant institution is a very good thing to think about. So are natural equilibria. But it is easy to be misled by the fact that a regime seems to have emerged for a long time, and that the people in power seem to benefit from it, into thinking that it must somehow be innately stable.

And I think the danger in applying this approach to EA, to say that there is a dominant organization in EA, is that you will ignore any new organization that forms, and hope that it will lose out to the old one, and then the old one will lose out to some other new one, and there is no reason for any of these organizations to stay around. They are all doomed to lose out to some new organization.

Whereas if you think that there is no dominant organization in EA, and that this is a temporary interruption in the dominance of some other organization that will itself eventually lose out to some new organization, then you are on much more stable ground.

One of the things that I remember about my visit to the gun store was that I realized that I could have myself a very cheap gun. I could have myself a shotgun for $20, less than $100. I'm thinking of a short barrel, but if I were willing to take the risk I could get myself a long-barrel shotgun for fifty or sixty dollars. Which was way cheaper than I expected. So I asked the clerk if I could do that. I could have myself a safe, reliable gun for cheap. So I asked her is that legal. She told me, "Of course it's legal, it's the twenty-first century." And she pointed me to a counter where I could get one in a plastic wallet, like an ID.

Even if you think there is a single dominant organization in the world, you need to think about it, and you can't do that if you keep your thoughts to yourself.

I want to look at a simple example now. I want to talk about a gun. I want to talk about a very, very cheap gun, one of the absolute cheapest. And I'm thinking of a short barrel, because this is the sort of gun that I think of as being legal: you can have it for your home, you can have it in your car, you can have it at the range. One of the very, very cheapest guns that you can buy and that is legal in just about every state. It costs a total of thirty-two cents. This gun is a BB gun, which really doesn't need a further explanation at this point. This gun is legal to own and that's the whole thing. It's not legal to shoot people with.

Now the obvious question: In the twenty-first century, the world's best technology, thirty-two cents is a relatively small sum of money. So, why do people still want to shoot with lead? Because it is more powerful than all the other bullets at the range. And that's why people want to shoot with lead bullets.

There's a similar dynamic about AI. One of the things that is most likely to produce AI is to write something that gets fed a huge training set. And once you've written this thing, you can look at its training set and you can see what it's doing, and you can optimize it to be better. But the problem there is that in order to get better, it's got to be a whole lot better at playing the game. It's a really hard problem, and it's a game that no one but the AI has figured out how to make fun of.

So if you're a machine learning researcher, and you're being paid a lot of money to optimize a machine learning system, you find yourself playing the game of making someone work harder and harder in order to get a bigger paycheck. And this game seems to be fun, which is exactly why people keep playing it, which is why you keep writing these machine learning systems.

There's a much more fundamental dynamic at work. I'm one of those people who feels really uneasy when I'm shooting at a target, whether at a shooting range or whether at a guy in a trench. But when I get to the range, I don't think about the guy in the trench. What I think about is the bullet. I think about the math of bullets. I think about the physics that produce the bullet. I think about the motion of the bullet. I think about how I can make the bullet go straighter, how I can make it go straighter and faster; and that's one of the many dynamics that I think about insofar as I'm thinking about the motion of the bullet. But I think of the bullet as being a very independent entity, a thing that behaves in a way that is independent of any human, and I think of the human as being very much at the mercy of the bullet, which I can't even see. The feeling that you have in the middle of a shooting range is not too different from the feeling that you have when the bullet has already left the gun and you can't get back the moment's fraction of a second that the bullet spent there. In a certain trivial sense, the bullet is "making you" shoot, and it's making you shoot almost entirely without your input. And there's a feeling of powerlessness that comes over you in the middle of a shooting range that you don't get in your kitchen or your living room in front of your television set.

Inadequate Equilibria is a book that talks about a very, very different world than the one that I've just sketched. Because the world that he's sketching is a very good one: there are many places where we can get to the point where we are solving all sorts of important science and math problems. But I, at least, don't feel that I'm in this world. I feel like I'm in a world in which we have just figured out nuclear weapons and we're feeling very powerful. But in the world that we live in, we are mostly not worrying about the fundamental AI problem or the fundamental machine learning problem. Those problems will be soluble at some point, but there are thousands and thousands of other problems that I'm worried about right now that don't have that association with the twenty-first century and with the people who will live in it. And you can't just ignore them.

We talk about how very smart Peter Thiel is. Okay, he's smart. But he said that AI was like the colonization of the Americas, and he's a literal colonialist, and he really doesn't seem to give a shit about any of the harm that digital colonialism is going to do, and instead he's busy exploiting the naive ideas of a bunch of young people. A few pages of the book are about MIRI and he just doesn't seem to give a shit about what's going on at MIRI. It's the kind of thing that when you're thinking about it, your mind goes "oh, he does, oh, he doesn't, oh, he doesn't, okay, that's enough of that." But the author of the book spends a lot of time on it and argues at you about it. And he doesn't say anything about all the other things he's worrying about. So in a way, it seems like he doesn't think that he's in a world in which there's a lot of work to be done.

#admiral-craymen

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