#and i thought about macden

[chilledmac]

i was talking to my friend about the potentiality of macdennis and how they Will become canon but she disagreed. so we phoned her sister who said verbatim: "you know they're having sex and touching dicks" WHEN I TELL YOU i have Never been so obnoxious when i heard that!! she gets it she really gets it

[socialtomcat]

no because im still reeling over “if you’re johnny, then who’s dennis?” like mac couldnt fathom being catfished but for a split second was almost ready to accept that dennis was johnny if he was the johnny that mac knew, and dennis was someone else. theres no way dennis could have been manipulating me this whole time, that doesn’t make sense because i know johnny and i love him. dennis wasn’t pretending to be my johnny whom i love, that’s ridiculous. but just maybe i am prepared to accept that “dennis” was actually johnny the whole time. my johnny who i love and know so well and who loves me and wouldnt you know it has also secretly been my best friend and roommate for half my life and i can forget all about dennis who hurt me and manipulated me and will never love me, and be happy with johnny instead

[boysareouttonight]

just thinking about how they practically established in canon that mac is the only person who could fulfill dennis emotionally and give him exactly what he needs and that's why i unironically think they could be in an actual relationship. "there's this giant gaping hole inside me" vs "there's never anything inside" and there is. with mac there is love and care and concern and a bond that dennis couldn't achieve with anyone. it's not about mac giving him a gift it's about how the whole episode lead to mac being the only one who truly knows dennis. he sleeps with all these women and doesn't find anything deep there while mac is the only person who gives him stability and takes care of him without asking for anything in return, it's literally canon that mac wants to make dennis happy. not just a little crush or sexual attraction it's LOVE. the only thing missing is dennis allowing himself to have this. he wants to get dicked down so bad but he also wants to be deeply loved

[sunscall]

dennis seems sooo ok and normal whenever he offers mac help to find a boyfriend just being a good bro helping out his homie nothing to see here! but the minute mac brings someone over or makes a move without consulting dennis first he gets so taken aback and jealous and pathetic (affectionate)

[aanalytic]

chapter 1 of I Stand Corrected is out now :) i’m really stoked about this one and i hope you love it!! <3

[mitten-kittens420]

Yes we all know that Dennis is a terrible, terrible monster of a man, but I think his softness with Charlie is something we (re: I) NEED to talk about. I mean it’s obvious that Dennis genuinely cares about him, as much as his emotional immaturity allows him. It’s probably why charden will always be the most realistic ship in that show— in my mind, at least.

First thing that comes to mind is in The Gang Gets Extreme Home Makeover or whatever it’s called. When Charlie starts freaking out and gets all heated about Sears, it’s Dennis know calms him down immediately, and seems to know exactly how to do it. And Charlie caves so easily. And the little hug— it wasn’t just a quick thing. I mean, Dennis was holding on tight AND and Charlie immediately got all comfortable. The man licherally nuzzled up against his arm what more do I gotta say?? And again when they’re shopping for supplies it’s just *finger snap here* like clockwork. Charlie gets upset and Dennis cools him off like it’s nothing.

In The Gang Hits The Road when they’re both chilling in the back of that camper van/trailer/uhaul bullshit. I mean, Charlie’s never left Philadelphia and the one person he voices his concerns about it to in Dennis. And sure, he was a bit freaked out about it around every one else and he mentioned being uncomfortable with the whole idea, but it was Dennis that he actually opened up to. And Dennis didn’t make fun of him, or say any snide comments, he sat and heard Charlie out and genuinely offered advice and reassurance. And I feel like I need to reiterate: it was not mocking at all!! Dennis was genuinely ready to back Charlie up and he was confident with what he was saying.

And this one can swing either way with manipulation or actual bonding (leaning more toward manipulation but shhhh) but in Waiting For Big Mo. That entire section of their little chat about bouncy balls. Dennis was nice. And he didn’t really argue, when he did it wasn’t with anger or annoyance, it was calm and his voice was soft and I have a lot of feeling about them in this episode. He knows how Charlie likes to play with his little army action figures which means he’s probably watched him do it many times. And sure in this episode Dennis is a dick to him, but it’s later seasons Dennis and I….. well I have thoughts about the later seasons.

And then you have him jumping to reassure Charlie that he is in fact fun to drink with in The Gang Gives Frank an Intervention. I’ll be brief with this one since it was so short but Dennis didn’t waste a second. Immediately let’s Charlie know he likes hanging out with him and he is fun, and sure it’s not that good of a situation and sure, he probably likes it mostly because Charlie probably gets himself hurt a lot and it’s funny to him, BUT it doesn’t matter because he JUMPS. And it’s not about that in the moment, it’s not about Charlie being stupid and reckless it’s just about Dennis needing Charlie to know he enjoys his company.

And again I’ll be brief because I don’t like this episode as a whole— Sweet Dee’s Dating an R- Person (😐) it’s Dennis who goes to check on Charlie. And when he finds him sitting alone in the dark he opens the blinds and tries to cheer himself up. And he sits and writes a song with Charlie— though we’ve seen Dennis (and the rest of the gang) continually be annoyed/disinterested/straight up hating Charlie and his singing/song writing. Dennis still sat and helped. And maybe that was because he wanted the credit, but whatever. He sings with him and wrote music and did that ridiculous little dance and it was a sweet scene. And like I said I really do not like this episode all that much besides the Charlie and Dennis scenes but this little snippet alone is enough to change how I view it. It’s still a shitty episode with a shitty premise but this little scene was so sweet I eat it up every single time. Id probably skip this one all together when I rewatch the show if it wasn’t for this scene and this scene alone.

And these are just what I can think of off the top of my head. Yeah. I have a lot of thoughts about charden. And I KNOW it will never ever be canon but I actually can’t lose because I’ll never let reality destroy me.

[dennisboobs]

if i'm not rambling on here rest assured knowing i am most definitely doing it in dms because saying it here would get me shot and stabbed

[littletinyguy]

margaret atwood, ‘power politics’

when the 😶 when they and they 🫢 and the 🤫 when they’re both horrifically repressed middle aged men 🤭🤭 who depend on each other an insane amount but would rather die than admit it 😶😶 and theyve been living together for over a decade but drifted apart when one began to be honest about his struggles with his identity 🫢 as the other dug himself deeper into his persona of emotionlessness when in reality he really craves to be seen and understood 🤫🤫 but the idea of being honest with affection is terrifying 🤧🤧 because that means admitting you want something, admitting you feel something 😮‍💨 and the only thing that could ever lead to is disappointment and inevitable pain 🤯🤯 who would look at all of me and not flinch away ? i will only love you when you aren’t looking so as not to disturb either of us. 😮 bro let’s invest in inflatable furniture together

[dennisbiter]

i know this entire account is about wanting to fuck dennis but i actually think that a „healthy“ relationship for dennis has to not be sex based at all. maybe even completely celibate. like yeah i think as soon as the other person wants to sleep with him theres going to be resentment and dennis is going to feel unsafe and i dont think that mac is ever going to respect his boundaries considering the fact he canonically doesnt and also because i think he wont understand? like at best because of ignorance and at worst because of malice idk. it doesnt mean they cant get together but its always a little bit fucked up in my mind (saying this as a fucked up macden connoisseur who just got done writing yet another fucked up macden fic). this is why i like charden so much because in that relationship there actually is no need for dennis to give himself up sexually. charlie is fine with sex but he doesnt need it and hes always honest enough that dennis doesnt need to worry about being used. what im trying to say is that i think macden is a lot more likely to happen but charden is a lot more likely to make dennis genuinely happy

[8catsinatrenchcoat]

rewatching the d.e.n.n.i.s. system and going feral over the fact mac is absolutely trying to d.e.n.n.i.s. dennis in the gang chokes by poisoning him to Demonstrate Value by making dennis sick so mac can nurse him back to health

[pollencoveredman]

does mac look forward to pollen season (to take care of dennis)? or does it put him on edge, never knowing how dennis is going to behave because of it?

clapped my hands with glee when i saw this in my inbox

mac loves pollen season; he loves how whiny dennis gets and occasionally will maybe take extra care to leave the windows open at night for maximum effect. he loves going to the store to buy tissues, meds, etc and bringing them home while dennis is likely curled up on the couch, a pathetic, sneezy, watery-eyed mess

as i mentioned previously dennis hates when mac blesses him excessively but also gets pissed off when he doesn’t say it at all; mac will sometimes be texting him blessings from a different room to REALLY annoy him (though he loves it secretly)

and at the end of the day dennis is all knocked out from his meds, probably insisting mac to get away from him because he’s absolutely COVERED in pollen but he’s too tired to really do anything about it and already a mess so it doesn’t matter that mac is next to him in bed, putting a dehumidifier in his room and helping him get to sleep

[derogatorydennis]

does anyone want to hang out

[angrymac]

16.04 spoilery thoughts

UM?

DENNIS CONFIRMED HAS A SYSTEM FOR MEN BC HE HOOKS UP WITH MEN

Dennis being annoyed at Mac talking about Johnny but still setting him up instead of telling him the truth

His arm around Mac at the restaurant??

MAC SAYS HE’S A MAN IN LOVE AND DENNIS MAKES THE MOST HEARTBROKEN FACE

Mac WILL NOT, CANNOT believe that Dennis is Johnny because his mind WON’T GO THERE. IT CANNOT GO THERE

Dennis getting so frustrated trying to convince him

I can’t believe we were right about Dennis catfishing Mac all those months ago

WHAT DID THE TEXTS SAY? FIC WRITERS GET ON THIS

I have such macden brainrot but other thoughts? uh… uh…

the chess plot was very funny

too much uncle jack they need to kill him off

I can’t think coherently my brain is melting

[toespoon]

As much as I love charmac and charden I don’t see either of the two being physically intimate bc Charlie canonically isn’t that into sex at all. And he thinks kissing is gross. Out of the two charden is definitely more plausible bc I feel like Charlie would be like a low stress friends with benefits type deal with dennis and he wouldn’t have to worry about seducing him like he would a girl.

THAT BEING SAID someone please change my mind bc I know this fandom is full of charmacs and chardens and I do really enjoy hearing ppls thoughts abt it. I have just been too invested in macden to pay attention to other pairings LOL

[cankersaurus]

Since ppl have been genderbending sunny as of late it's got me thinking about what the dynamic could be, because ever since i saw my first macden yuri fanart I thought about how since the gang has very bigoted and traditional beliefs and tendencies i could see dee becoming the head of the group, but that would also change absolutely everything. Now I've been fully out of my iasip hyperfix for a good month or two now so my brain has trouble viewing the gang as fully faceted people instead if characters so i dont think i'd be able to do just to this genderbend I've conjured up so i carnally NEED someone to do it for me lol.

[nailgunstigmata]

seeing people complain about macden being toxic gives me such whiplash because i thought thats why we‘re all here??????? begging u to go back to heartstopper or whatever