#and mutiny

[spongynova]

Spock needed comfort, not that he said it. Bones isn't easy to fool, though. SO it a blanket, plushy and hot beverage situation!

For @starrycrowz

[raointean]

[zhoras-bitch]

"average greek pisses off 3 gods and demigods a year" factoid is actually just statistical error. average greek pisses off 0 gods and demigods per year. Odysseus of Ithaca, who is just going home & making a mortal enemy of yet another olympian each day, is an outlier and should not have been counted

[daftmooncretin]

my absolute favourite thing about the kirk and spock dynamic is that the whole time you’re watching the show spock is gaslighting you into thinking that kirk is this loose canon and spock is paragon of logic keeping his captain on the straight and narrow when its very clearly the other way round. aside from being turned on by everyone and fighting like an old-timey boxer…. kirk is just like.. quite a logical, stable guy. like yeah he rules with his emotions but he’s rarely reckless or erratic, even in situations of immense pressure he’s always calm and measured. sure kirk is unhinged and insane, but we knew that right off the bat. spock on the other hand tries to hide how insanely balls to the walls crazy he is by standing next to jim and hiding all his derangement with logic. i think the reason bones beefs with spock so much because he is the only one who has noticed that spock is an absolutely unhinged individual. (jim is too busy doodling <3 mr jim spock <3 all over his briefings to notice)

[gotstabbedbyapen]

That's it. That's basically what the song is about.

[aceforwhatevenisthis]

jorge did not just reprise luck runs out in mutiny i know he did not just

[ayan0tateyama]

Mutiny

[solchariot]

I know how it feels to be trapped.

[xfilesinamajor]

“Eurylochus, light up six torches.”

Hang on…that sounds like Odysseus had Eurylochus light the torches and hand them out. Meaning that Ody made HIM choose, unknowingly, who was going to die. Odysseus knew what giving a man a torch would mean, and he f*cking delegated that task to someone else. So he didn’t have to look these six men in the eyes as he sealed their fate. He let Eurylochus do it instead—and Eury, NOT knowing what it would mean, probably chose six of his top remaining men.

I cannot imagine the inner turmoil that poor man went through before raising his sword against his captain. Oof.

[wowsillies]

I WISH Jorge had referenced the part of Luck Runs Out where Odysseus tells Eurylochus to be quiet because I feel like that’s an element missing from a lot of Eurylochus interpretations.

“I need you to always be devout and comply with this /Or we'll all die in this” is important because Eurylochus fails to do it by questioning Odysseus’ words (the bag is NOT treasure, it’s storm) and opening the wind bag and his actions lead directly to the facilitation of the death of most of the crew. I hesitate to say he’s to blame because, well, Poseidon is taking revenge due to Odysseus’ decision, but Eurylochus handed him means and perfect opportunity to do it.

So, after that, Eurylochus obeys everything Odysseus says to do. He takes men to explore Circe’s island. He stays put instead of running when Odysseus goes to rescue him. He follows intl the Underworld despite the fact that “hey this witch is helping us now by sending us to death’s realm, this is definitely not a trick” probably raised some questions. He doesn’t (or at least we don’t see) stray or talk to the souls in the Underworld even though Odysseus ends up doing it. He traps and kills the sirens.

He lights and gives out six torches.

So, if devotion to Odysseus wasn’t enough to save them? If Odysseusnis now using that devotion and trust to get them killed as long as he gets to make it home to his wife? What is he meant to do now?

Eurylochus doesn’t sound… fully there, during the second half of Mutiny. Whether there was divine intervention pushing him or madness or simply the pain of it all, he’s not acting rationally. He just saw six of his trusted men brutally murdered, asks Odysseus to lie and say it was a trick, and can’t even kill him when the truth comes out. Odysseus’ wounds are bandaged! (I’m not sure that he doesn’t actually know where Helios’ statue is from btw, both due to the melody and bc it seems outrageous)

We’re all talking about Odysseus pleading for Eurylochus to stop before killing the cows, but Eurylochus is pleading too. He asks how much longer is he expected to suffer, to push through doubt, to follow the orders. And Odysseus’ first plea is “I need to get home” (later “we can get home”). Let’s not forget Odysseus is selfish and Eurylochus knows that, maybe even loves that, but he’s not just hungry, he’s tired.

When Polites gets the location of the sheep cave from the lotus eaters and takes the men to it, he leads several of them to death and himself to his doom. When Eurylochus stumbles upon the cows, does he remember that? Does he deliberately invoke it?

Killing the cows isn’t about the hunger, not really. It’s about the devotion that was asked of him, the price he paid to learn that lesson, and the pain that silence put him through anyway.

[kochei0]

pov you slayed the sun god's cattle

[ravenlikesbooks]

I think the thing I love about Mutiny is that sure, Eurylochus is angry. Absolutely furious. The way he spits out "captain" gives me chills.

But that's really not the point.

He says "tell me you did not know that would happen, tell me you didn't know how that would end" and "use your wits to try and say I'm crazy and mad, that this is all some trick the gods have sent." And those absolutely sound sarcastic and mad. But they aren't, not fully.

Eurylochus is well and truly begging, for the first and only time. Please, captain, tell me what I know isn't true. Lie to me, try to gaslight me into thinking you made some horrible mistake. Use your gift of persuasion to make me believe, just for a second, that I'm wrong. Don't say the words I know are true, that I know you'll say. Tell me you didn't miss home so painfully bad, that you gave up the lives of six of our friends.

Say something, please.

And Odysseus says "I can't"

[raointean]

[epicthemusicalstuff]

The Cattle of the Sun God

I drew Helios’ Cattle!!

[wolfythewitch]

wolfy, please, your opinions on the newest saga, if it’s not a bother,

have an excellent day

It was fun but they took away Odysseus getting sexily tied to the mast and I cannot forgive them for that

[pass-the-macaroni]

This probably isn't as funny as I think it is but during Mutiny, after Eurolychus kills the sun god's cow despite Odyseuss's repeated warnings not to, and he does it anyway, do you guys think Odyseuss loses his shit for a minute and is like, "I swear to fucking shit if the gods don't kill you I will" and then Odyseuss has to eat his words like 20 seconds later during Thunder Bringer?

I mean, sucks for him, but can you imagine cussing someone out and then it actually happens?