#and then stops bothering to hide it in s10
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kind of obsessed with shapeshifter mumbo ngl
#in my head he is nimona coded#if you couldn’t tell lol#the idea is that the hermits don’t really realize he’s a shapeshifter until season 10#like s8 he’s all ‘haha SUPER WEIRD GLITCH in the matrix ammiright?’#the debate of what he really is is a hot topic between some hermits (not in a mean way) before s8#the he starts questioning why he ever pretended to be human in s9#(he rediscovers the joys of shapeshifting while he’s away from everyone LORE)#and then stops bothering to hide it in s10#SORTA THE IDEA KINDA YEAH#hermitcraft#mumbo jumbo#xisuma#goodtimeswithscar#grian#bdubs
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Okay, @stanfordsweater has started up Wincest Wednesday again by just encouraging everyone to send people wincest asks about whatever, so: thoughts on Sam and Dean as a QPR who fuck nasty? Any headcannons there, perhaps?
(This is schizosamwincester's main, btw)
Ohhhh hell yeah!
Okay first of all, for those not acquainted with the term, QPR stands for queerplatonic relationship which is pretty much a committed platonic relationship that is very popular in the aromantic spaces. Gencest/Weirdcest can be described as QPRs as there's no romance involved.
Now to my thoughts. There's two ways Dean and Sam would start fucking.
1) It started very early on with mildly inappropriate touches which escalated until Sam left for Stanford and after they got back together in S1 it just started and escalated even more.
2) They have never touched in that way. They are really close and unabashed about showing up naked or openly talking about their sexual lives. Then one day they just decide to try it out with each other. (in my mind this happens in bunker era) And they get a bit obsessed with it.
Either way by the time we reach s10-s11 or so they fuck nasty. We are talking aggressively and needy and outright kinky sometimes. Nobody could ever get them to that soft spot of pleasure like each other. Because Dean knew what made Sam tick and Sam knew what Dean liked.
They don't openly show off the fact they are fucking but they don't work to hard to hide it either. They don't think it's wrong btw. They just know that other people will be bothered by that tidbit of information so they keep quiet about it. But it's not wrong. It can't be. Not when it feels so right to them.
In my mind they stop sleeping with other people around s12. Or they sleep with other people very rarely. Because they know nobody could give them the same pleasure the other can.
It's not romantic. Not by a long shot. Sometimes Dean tickles Sam right after or shoves him off the bed. Sometimes Sam would just show up in the kitchen announcing like it's no one's business that they would go fuck now. It doesn't have a romantic preamble or anything. It's just Sam asking for something and Dean providing. It's just Dean needing something and Sam giving it to him.
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no because i need to talk about mickey and ian's tiny little obsession with calling each other "mr milkovich" and "mr gallagher" idk how to explain it but it's like they've been waiting for so long that now they can't stop showing that they're each other's person, they can't stop talking about how they belong to each other, they need to keep telling the world that they're together.
Which reminds me of another silly little obsession but this time is just Mickey's obsession: the rings need to be visible. In the promise rings scene, in s10 when Ian goes to Byron's house to see Mickey and gives him this promise ring, he looks even more hurt when he sees that Ian wears his ring in a non visible place. It actually bothers him that no one can see, that no one will know that he has someone, that no one will see that he "belongs" to someone, that no one will know or Ian won't tell the world about him, about them. Like they're hiding again, like Mickey's hiding again. He notices he doesn’t have his ring in that one scene with Sandy where they're talking about the wedding, he notices and he even asks where is it.
The ring is not only a ring or the symbol of their marriage but also is them not hiding anymore and having sex in the back of a store, is them not living anymore in a constant state of anxiety and fear because what if they found them out, what if they knew about them. It's them telling the world that they're together, that they love each other, that they fought, screamed, cried, hurt each other, tried to elope and have a happy ending but it wasn't their moment and always found their way back and finally they made it.
It's Mickey not being ashamed anymore, it's Mickey being ridiculously proud of his husband, of what they have, of himself. It's Ian knowing Mickey is gonna love him unconditionally, it's Ian trying to not forget that he's worth loving, it's Ian allowing Mickey to take care of him and pretending he doesn't notice the little things he does for him because he's worried and he's an act of service type of person so he doesn't ask much, he does these little things.
So they're obsessed with the idea of telling the world they're free, they're in love, they're together and they vowed a forever. They just need the world to know they're Mr Gallagher and Mr Milkovich because for a long time they couldn't call each other "mine" and it felt like better times wouldn't come, like they would have to live in these shadows like a secret mission.
And now they're proudly in love in the daylight and it's the most exciting thing so they talk constantly about it and never stop looking at their rings, at each other in awe and adoration.
#im emotional leave me alone#I CANT STRESS ENOUGH HOW MUCH THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR RELATIONSHIP#sorry for the typos#gallavich#ian gallagher#mickey milkovich#shameless
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Darkness, balance and cages.
At the end of this post I’ve written that there’s a tendency to use vague concepts related to “Eastern mysticism” when tv shows dealing with Christian themes fly a little too close to the sun (pun intended). This happened in “Supernatural” for sure but also in other shows like “Lost” and “The Good Place” (although, especially in the second, they were a bit more subtle about it) and, I’m willing to bet, in many others, too. This doesn’t bother me per se because I think that an informed, planned, researched dose of syncretism can actually help creating thought-provoking art, why not?, however, I’m not a fan of “Eastern mysticism” used as a way to obscure and confuse the actual meaning of the story I’m watching.
Take for instance when Chuck starts blabbering about “yin and yang” and “light and dark” in s11. First of all, I know I’ll sound pedantic now but throwing around these words expecting the audience to understand what they mean is hilarious. I’m not staying awake at night to read about Taoism for sure but I’ve been trying to “figure it out” for quite a few years and I still don’t get what “yin and yang” mean. But fine, notoriously I’m a downer and the death of the party and this is silly Supernatural so let’s be real. And, anyway, they did explain what they mean by that: “There’s a harmony, a balance, in the universe. Light needs dark. Dark needs light”. This is a very “meh”, Supermarket New Age take but okay, fine I guess. However, if you think about this concept and how it relates to the story, it still doesn’t make sense. And I think it doesn’t make sense because Amara was originally conceived to be “stronger” than Chuck but then they backtracked because *implications*.
This is what Death tells Dean in S10:
DEATH: Creatio ex nihilo -- God created the earth out of nothing -- or so your Sunday-school teacher would have you believe. DEAN: What, so Genesis is a lie, eh? Shocker. DEATH: Before there was light, before there was God and the archangels, there wasn't nothing. There was the Darkness, a horribly destructive, amoral force that was beaten back by God and his archangels in a terrible war.
I have things to say about why Death would ever say such things, after all he should’ve understood the Darkness’ deal because he was also an amoral force that could stand up to God. But I digress.
I’ll leave theology aside and focus on one thing: what’s Death really saying here? Would it be so incorrect to think that either the Darkness created God and/or God was inferior to the Darkness? So inferior that he had to create other beings that would help him lock her up? And how did God create these other beings? Also, these words seem to suggest that a. God is not light and b. God didn’t create anything. He appropriated creation. If the Darkness was before light and before God and she was a destructive force it follows that she was a creative force that existed before God (and, to stay in-universe, created God, perhaps? Is the Darkness… God’s MOTHER? Is she the Alpha and the Omega? Did God want to lock his mother up because he didn't want to be destructed/eaten by his parent? Is this about Zeus vs the Titans? Is the cage the Tartarus? Did OG God have mommy issues? I'm rolling and I could go on but I'll stop here because I think you get my point). God as male, paternal deity creating reality because *mind/phallus powers!* is a lie. Shocker! (?)
They just had to change this stuff and here enters “yin and yang”, or the appropriation of “Eastern mysticism” concepts to hide the huge, tiny "mis-take" they wrote.
So throughout S11 we’re repeatedly told that Chuck and Amara are unspecified “brother and sister” (twins? big sis? little bro? doesn't matter?) but Amara does state that they were “equals”(in power, I believe) and that Chuck made the archangels because he wanted to be big (! mommy issues alert !). To which Chuck says that yeah, it’s true but also! Look! Creation is so beautiful! And where did creation come from? The show had already stated the “creation ex nihilo” hypothesis as bullshit so they went the other way: creation was… “just there”. In “We Happy Few” Chuck says: “It didn't come from my hands. It was there waiting to be born. It just is, as you and I just were”. They course-corrected and took the “formless matter” route according to which, very briefly and simplistically, the matter came out from an intermediate state of "nothing and something" but that wasn’t actually created (because God is the active principle) since it was “formless”, aka potentiality.
Now I just want to say that there’s a sort of tendency in Supernatural where “formless matter” is “just there”. These are the same words that Cas uses when Kelly talks to him about her death, resurrection and her feelings towards her baby and how... he was conceived. Both these episodes were written by the same writer, Berens, and I’ll just leave this here for your consideration and the, uhm, not-so-nice implications of this argument re: women, (pro)creation and abuse.
To be honest, though, I don’t exactly blame them for taking this route because what was the other option? The show had put itself into a corner: there are two cosmic beings that they had decided to present as a woman and a man who are also brother and sister and ALSO the two primary entities in all existence? Ahem, the incest trap was just around the corner so, yeah, I can understand why the matter ex machina was necessary in order not to go there.
But things still don’t add up in terms of “yin and yang”! See:
CHUCK: Amara’s been caged for billions of years, but y’know, she was always there. She had to be there. Y’know, yin and yang. Dark and light. DEAN: English, Chuck. CHUCK: There’s a harmony, a balance, in the universe. Light needs dark. Dark needs light. If you blow one of them up, then, I mean—
Does Dark needs Light? Uhm.
I’ve talked a bit about the danger behind the word balance. What I want to focus now is the “she had to be there”, “she was always there”. Again!!! What does this mean? Well, I’m trying to follow the logic they’re presenting me but what I personally gather is this: matter is just there waiting to be born (!!!) and the Darkness is also just there and she has to be and stay there otherwise the universe is in an imbalanced state.
I don’t want to go into the equation of Amara = formless matter because, again, incest trap! awful implications trap! but STILL this means that the "balance" in the universe can and indeed IS achieved when God is free to create and go around being the mess he is while Amara is caged and in pain. She doesn’t have to be free, she just needs to be. She doesn't have to be happy, she just needs to not-die. So that the universe can still exist. Who would want this balance, really? This is atrocious.
I mean, this is both horrendous and it proves my point: Amara is "stronger" than Chuck because the balance that Chuck is claiming to be necessary for the universe is a scam. Does the universe really need for him to be alive and free and for Amara to be alive and caged in order to exist? Or, perhaps, not? She brought destruction alright but the universe didn't end when the Darkness broke free, did it? So the universe can and indeed IS still in balance if Amara is out of her cage! What's different now? Chuck, ONE Sun, OUR Sun, is dying. Poor baby. One star dying is actually not that big of a deal, cosmically speaking and well, one day our Sun will die out, folks, and the universe will go on without us. Let's be fucking real for a second.
This is why Sam had to be “crazy and stupid” because Sam was onto Chuck from day 1. Because what does Sam say when God is dying? Well, Chuck, you keep on dying, but you know what we can do? Let’s also kill Amara and off with both of them and the universe can find its own new balance, EMPTY SCALES, out with the darkness and with "light", on with "formless matter", power to the people who are "just there", amirite? So Chuck comes up with the stupidest idea in the whole show, i.e. to kill Amara by the power of “10,000 suns set to supernova” while being wounded and figuratively associated with one dying Sun. It was never going to be successful. An arbitrary quantity against the essence of reality itself? A cosmic entity who eats souls, grace and feeds on creation/light? Please.
Amara and Chuck were never equals. The “Yin and Yang” was a lie and a smokescreen to make us think that yeah, Light and Dark, balance, yahoo, happy ending, God is love, God is (still) Light, while in the universe of Supernatural Amara/Darkness is the real Alpha and Omega. The fact that by S15 she bought into this balance, yin-yang scheme is quite painful. The caged stays (more or less, we don’t see her and I have problems with that but that doesn’t mean she’s not there) caged while existence lives on. Like previously and always on Supernatural. This, time, however, without Chuck. Because creation, existence, light without Chuck was always possible. Without Amara, though? Mmmm, perhaps not in the way we like to think of "creation". But "creation" kept on living because she agreed to co-exist with Jack even though she didn't have to. Did she choose, in the end, to "be just there"? Well, we don't know because we never saw Amara again, we only know she agreed via Jack. And so we believe in Jack and so we, *sigh*, believe in God. Amen!
#Amara as ultimate reality is something that I like a lot.#she is the M/Other#She's just so interesting and yes#her character suffered a lot because of the “mis-take” I talk about here. the little OOOPSIE!#and I think lots of people. me included. bought into the “yin and yang” balance scam in S11#and yeah. it was used to cover up Some Stuff and it's still problematic.to me.bc I take “eastern mysticism”very seriously. perhaps too much#but. like. S11 has some pretty interesting ideas and I love it for that ehehe#spn#supernatural#amara spn#amara#chuck shurley#spn s11#spn lines#super-m/Others#myths we live by
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4 weeks of recs! 🥳
I'd like to recommend the kind of beauty that moves by queenpeletier!
"Green and gold, it glimmers in the sunlight, and he almost wishes he’d found some red jasper instead. Green isn’t really a colour she wears – but it is a colour he likes. It reminds him of the woods, the sunlight through the canopy of leaves. It is warm and calming, and maybe if he can somehow say all of that to her – she’ll learn to love green too.
It’s time, he thinks, to stop bringing her inconsequential things – time to try to give her something as beautiful as what she gave him, so long ago."
Some things we know about our fave duo: (1) Daryl is observant (2) Daryl has a memory like an elephant and (3) both Daryl and Carol aren't great at using their words. They are masters of "show, don't tell" when it comes to affection and that's what this whole fic is about. Basically, if you liked the friendship bracelet scene in S10 you'll like this story.
Collecting things for Carol feels like a very natural way for Daryl to show he cares. He can hide behind practicality, so it's not like his defences are totally down in the beginning. But he's still going out of his way for Carol, like he always does.
queenpeletier always writes beautifully, there's A+ characterization, great use of side characters, and lovely attention to detail. Plus, I'm always a sucker for soft, domestic versions of Caryl - this fic ticks all the boxes for me!
Happy reading 💖
Yes, 4 weeks of daily recs! I just can't believe, it's a small milestone, but a very happy one. Thanks one more time for your support, @notalkingbusiness, I adore your recs. Today's no exception, and it's been a while since I last read this fic so it's a treat for me too! I'm a firm believer that Daryl's main love language is 'acts of service' and our dear author queenpeletier/areyoumarriedriver nailed it completely on one-shot the kind of beauty that moves, posted both on 9Lives and AO3.
Summary: “Ed never let me wear nice things like this,” he hears her as he strides by, intent on looking for some gas and a way the hell out of the traffic snarl they’ve landed themselves in. He thinks it’s a waste of time – but Rick is hell bent on heading to Fort Benning and fuck, it’s not like he has any better place to be.
Her words bother him as he works. They niggle at him for days, weeks, months after they leave that pathetic strip of concrete – the last place they saw that little girl alive. He thinks about it – the drab tans and browns that blend into nothingness that he’s seen her in. He thinks of the smile on her face as she’d pressed that red fabric against her chest and held it there. She’s quiet – pale and colourless since they left the farm. It’s like he can see the colour bleed out of her right before his very eyes. He wants her to smile again.
Ed never let me.
Well. Fuck that, he thinks. He’ll show that son of a bitch. Rating: M / Mature Word count: 8904 Published: October 25, 2014 nottalking said it all on her rec, so I'll just leave you guys with my eternal motto: don't forget to review after you're done reading. Feedback is love, and we all need a little bit of love in our fandom lives. Caryl on, my dear, caryl on!
#caryl#caryl positivity#caryl fic recs#caryl on#caryl fanfiction#caryl fandom#your turn sunday#our fic recs
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aaaahahahahahhhhhhahahh the worst thing Sam ever said to dean. 9.13, The Purge:
Dean: About what you said the other day.
Sam: I thought it didn’t bother you.
Dean: You know Sam, I saved your hide back there. I saved your hide at that church — in the hospital. I may not think things all the way through but when I do, it’s because it’s the right thing. I’d do it again.
Sam: And that is the problem. You think you’re my savior, my brother, the hero. You swoop in and even when you mess up you think what you’re doing is worth it because you’ve convinced yourself you’re doing more good than bad... but you’re not. Kevin’s dead, Crowley’s in the wind, we’re no closer to beating this angel thing, please tell me, what is the upside to me being alive?
Dean: Are you kidding me? You and me, fighting the good fight together.
Sam: Just once be honest with me, you didn’t save me for me. You did it for you.
Dean: What are you talking about?
Sam: I was ready to die, I was ready. I should have died. But you, you didn’t want to be alone. That’s what this boils down to, you can’t stand the thought of being alone. I’ll give you this much, you are certainly willing to do the sacrifice, as long as you’re not the one being hurt.
Dean: Alright, you want to be honest, if the situation was reversed, and I was dying, you’d do the same thing.
Sam: No Dean, I wouldn’t. Same circumstances, I wouldn’t. I’m heading to bed.
(bolding mine, because we’re gonna talk about those words...)
The problem in the Winchester Codependency is this. We’ve talked about it for years-- the fact that yes, they’re brothers, but that Dean also still can’t help but feel “parental” toward Sam, because that’s the role he was forced into as long as he can remember. And as many glimpses of this as Sam has had, and as many small (and sometimes large) moments of insight into Dean, he still either refuses to understand this, or blocks it out, or assumes it’s all handled until the next time this issue rears its ugly head again and it’s like Sam developed amnesia again about why Dean defaults to the Bossy Parent role.
I mean, this is not to discount Dean’s own amnesia over the fact that Sam does NOT have the same hangups about feeling “parental” toward Dean in return, because to Dean the role of Brother and Parent are so tangled up together he can’t always tell what’s what.
And Kevin... he’s not dead because of Sam-- even though he enjoys putting the blame for it on himself. He’s dead because Gadreel felt BETRAYED by Dean, even though he himself had been betrayed for the better part of the entire history of time... so like... there’s much bigger issues here, but Sam reduces them all down to himself. I mean, Dean also blames himself for everything a lot of the time, but not when it’s in the attempt to save the people he cares about.
The whole “we’ll always try to save each other” that is a BIG part of Dean’s personal definition of what it means to be family on a very basic level... Sam just basically stomped on that and told him it was worthless. And the painful irony is that by 10.03, Sam gets this. He finally put on his grownup pants and did something far more horrific than Dean asking an angel he thought he could trust (based on Cas’s word about Ezekiel being a good soldier, and that angel not completely lying about his identity) to save Sam’s life, and then Sam effectively being held hostage by that angel-- which directly hurt Cas and Dean both, as well. So like... at least Dean is trying to keep the bigger picture in mind here.
And Dean has already punished himself for this in direct ways that Sam has also watched first-hand. He’s expressed how he feels he’s poison and went off and took the Mark of Cain, effectively sacrificing himself to spare Sam and Cas and everyone else from Abaddon. So that bit Sam says there in the second bolded segment? Is potentially the worst thing he’d ever said to Dean up to that point. Because Dean himself has sacrificed more than almost everyone else on this show combined-- his own identity, his own happiness, everything he’s ever wanted in life since he was four years old, his own soul in exchange for Sam’s, and most horrifically his own LIFE in a future where he FINALLY had a chance to be free and live unburdened by mechanism that caused their repeated need to make these awful sacrifices in the first place. They’d finally knocked the monkey wrench out of the cosmic gears, unseated Chuck, and then... for some reason Dean thinks one more final big sacrifice for Sam is what “was supposed to” happen? NO. No, no, fuck that sideways with a container ship.
Yes, Sam repents of all of this in s10 and goes WAY over the top on his revenge mission, because he thinks Dean is dead and that some rando demon was just using his body... at the beginning he doesn’t think Dean CAN be saved. 10.03 is the beginning of Sam’s redemption from this.
And this is why 15.20 is not only implausible to me, but outright offensive. They both struggled horrifically with these things and would eventually forgive and overcome them, only to fall right back into it just in time for the finale.
Yes, Sam’s issues with bodily autonomy and possession throughout the series are at play here, too. And that only makes things worse. Dean will only truly begin to understand that after 13.23, when he will-- without hesitation-- once again make the sacrifice himself to save the people he cares about.
I understand both of their perspectives here, but heck it’s super hard not to feel angry and hurt by Sam’s words. I mean, HOW MANY TIMES has Dean been perfectly willing to be the sacrifice for Sam’s sake, and the ONE TIME he made a choice for Sam-- bearing in mind that Gadreel was also playing ALL of them, and using Dean’s face to secure the Yes from Sam-- Sam can’t let it go. I mean, I’ve written about the “who’s to blame for this” argument and how it just goes right back to the start of creation and puts it all on Chuck for locking up Amara. In this circumstance specifically, though, this is at least PARTLY Dean’s personal guilt over “failing” that first trial way back in 8.14. Sam was never the one who was supposed to “sacrifice” himself to close up Hell. Dean even argued with him that they would find another Hellhound to kill, and Sam busted out the Power of Positive Thinking BS about wanting to SURVIVE the trials when Dean was looking at them as a death sentence. Because they always WERE a death sentence, and no amount of “golly I’d really like to live anyway though” was gonna change that. The entire POINT of what Dean did was trying to CORRECT what he felt was a pointless sacrifice of Sam on the altar of saving everyone else.
So yeah, I hate this bit here. :’D
Because as I hinted at in the previous paragraph there... THIS WAS ALWAYS CHUCK’S STORY. That one brother would have to be sacrificed so the other could live. Because that’s the story of him and Amara. Only one of them could rule over creation. Only Chuck could remain free to create the universe he wanted unhindered, and the story of his universe as told and retold through his own creations was his own self-justification for that original crime. And the final episode of Supernatural gave him exactly that, in the stupidest possible way. It was “we can’t have nice things or a happy life, only one’s death so the other can be free.” The irony was that they weren’t truly free. Dean was just ~dead~ and alone and never sought out what he never got to have in life. Sam abandoned everything he’d grown to know about himself to live a half-life without any real satisfaction, until he finally died, too. It’s just... depressing AF. And it all feels rooted in Chuck’s basic plot rather than truly winning for Free Will and humanity.
I typed on this so long that 9.14 ended, with Kevin’s admonition to them both that they stop behaving like that, since he’d ben watching them be petty from the veil for months. Dean was ready to talk to Sam, but Sam had already turned his back and walked away, completely convinced of his own righteousness in this matter. And at this point in the series I just kinda want to yell at him... >.>
#spn 9.13#spn 10.03#breaking the codependency#chuck's process#spn 15.20#spn 9.14#spiders georg of the tnt loop
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Predictions and Musings for 10b (Mostly Musings ;D)
Okay, let’s talk predictions. The big question everyone is asking is whether I think we’ll see Beth in 10x10, or, more broadly, when I think we’ll see her.
I’m not willing to rule out that we’ll see her in 10x10. If we do, I think it will be minimal. Like an after-the-credits scene where only the audience sees her, but none of the characters do. That said, as we head into 10b I’m feeling more and more like she won’t actually surface until the season finale. Again, not ruling out 10x10, and I’d be happy to be wrong. But that’s not my strong, gut feeling either.

I’ll explain why. And I’m going to frame this post in terms of clocks. We’ll talk about the clock in Edwards’ office in 5x08, the 10:16 clock in 7x08, and how I see the rest of the season playing out.
Let’s start 7x08. I’m not sure how me and my fellow theorists even got started on this, but we’ve been discussing it for the past week or two. It may just have been that someone (it really wasn’t me) remembered the clock.

So here’s the thing: when Daryl escapes the Sanctuary in 7x08, he runs into Dwight’s room after a vat of pickles spills in front of him. He hides there for a time before escaping. Behind him, when he runs down to the corridor is a clock that read 10:16. Now, during s8, most of us were still hoping Beth would appear sometime during or near the end of All Out War, so we weren’t seriously considering S10 for her reappearance at that time. So we weren’t sure what the clock represented.
Now, as we’re in S10, and we’ve had all these ridiculous clues that she’s about to reappear, the 10:16 clock becomes really interesting. Because 10x16 will be the season finale of this season.
Remember that in this scene, when Daryl goes into Dwight’s room, there’s a ridiculous amount of Beth symbolism. He eats peanut-butter, he looks at the chess pieces, several of which are reminiscent of Grady, there are fish on the wall (water), we see his scars, etc. And of course this is him escaping his imprisonment, which has heavy parallels to Beth being imprisoned at Grady. So everything about this scene screamed Beth.

But let’s talk specifically about what happens in front of the 10:16 clock. Daryl is trying to escape and some Saviors who are evidently handling food supplies drop a glass jar of pickles and it breaks, spilling across the corridor. That’s why Daryl runs into Dwight’s room. These Saviors talk about cleaning it up and he doesn’t want to be seen. He waits until they’re done cleaning up the mess and the corridor is empty again before making a break for it.
So, do you remember what’s up with pickles? Via the St. Nicholas/Pickle story (X, X, X) there should be three resurrections at some point. Daryl’s “I Never” line in Still about Santa Clause probably points to this. What Santa Clause/St. Nicholas will bring him is a resurrected Beth.
(We also had a big emphasis on pickles during S7 via Eugene.)

But the myth says that St. Nick resurrected not one, but three boys/children/people depending on the version. I’ve theorized that the three resurrections will be the three remaining death fake out couples. (Glenn is dead for real, so not him.) I think the resurrections will be Beth, Rick, and Ezekiel. We haven’t seen Ezekiel’s death fake out yet, but I still think we will. And per Jerry’s shoe thing in 10x09, I think he’ll be involved.
Do all three resurrections have to happen simultaneously? I don’t think they HAVE to, but they COULD. And given that there’s a good chance that Beth and Rick are in the same place (helicopter people) I think there’s a good chance they will.
But the point here is that Daryl sees the pickles in front of the 10:16 clock. The way I’m interpreting that is that St. Nicholas will bring Daryl his gift at least in episode 10x16. So that’s why I think it’s less likely that we’ll see actually see her in 10x10.
Also, @wdway found something interesting in Slabtown that may support this:

“This is the scene where Beth has just come from Dawn's office and she is stopped in the hall by Dawn. It's always been strange about how this number was featured. I also want to point out the envelope type hang on the door if you enlarge it you can see that it's a pink (Pink Theory)…. Back to the number 5+5+6=16. So we have a 16 there's no true way of knowing if it's directed to this episode 16 or not.
Let's play around with what 16 and what these numbers in TWD world might look like as far as episodes. In s5e16 Conquer. In s5 series episode 56 was Self-Help. (Both very Beth-centric symbolism episodes.) Looking at 16, series number 16 was s2e10, 18 Miles Out (Beth’s suicide attempt). S1e6 was TS-19, the episode where TF was at the CDC eventually blew it up. (For this reference, see @angelthefirst1’s meta HERE.) By the way in the little library in the facility during a scene with Lori and Shane there is a 10-10 clock in the bookcase.”
But what does that mean for 10x10?
Well, let’s talk about the clock in Edwards’ office in 5x07. We’ve never done a very convincing job of figuring out what this clock points to. The hour hand points to the 10 while the minute hand points to the 8. Again, back in S5, we were definitely NOT thinking this pointed to S10. So there’s that. But even if we do so now, it seems to point to 10x08, the MSF. And MAYBE that’s a thing. I think there’s one way it could be, but overall it’s not terribly convincing. More on that in a minute.

But here’s the thing:
I actually think this clock may point to episode 10x10. Let me explain why. Warning: it involves math.
Due to Jesus’ death, we figured out that an hour represents a season as a whole, rather than the individual numbers pointing to episodes. That doesn’t work as there are only 12 numbers and 16 episodes. We saw the 9:30 clock behind Jesus and Carl in S7 and Jesus died in 9x08, which was exactly half-way through the hour/season. So I got out my trusty calculator and did some math. I tried this several different way and WAY over complicated it for myself. The easiest way to do it is this:
If you divide 1 hour 16 ways (by 16 episodes) each episode would be represented by 3.75 minutes. So if they want to point to something in episode 8, they would do 3.75 minutes multiplied by 8 episodes and you get 30. So they would point the minute hand of the clock toward 30 minutes (as they did with Jesus) to represent something happening in the MSF (episode 8). I hope that makes sense.
If you’re a visual person, check out this pie chart. If the minute hand is pointed at the 8 (40 minutes) then you divide that by 3.75 minutes for each episode, and you get roughly 10. Now, it’s not exact. It should be pointed at 37.5 minutes rather than 40. And honestly, it might be. This clock is very blurry because it’s in the background, and it may point to slightly before the 8. It’s just too hard to tell for sure.
Hence, I think this clock points to 10x10.
Now, anyone who reads @frangipanilove’s posts knows her theory is that the 10x10 clock actually points to 10x11 for various reasons. (Read HERE). And I can totally get behind that. I don’t know how it will all play out but she’s got some amazing evidence and it won’t bother me at all if this is actually pointing to ep 11 rather than 10. What she and I have kind of settled on is that both episodes (10 and 11) are sure to be super-important.
Different clocks truly do need to be interpreted different ways. For example, the 10:16 I mentioned above. Applying the number system I laid out above to it doesn’t produce anything specific. So I really think that clock, which reads a time of 10:16, literally points to episode 10x16. For the 10:10 clock, this system KIND of works. It obviously wouldn’t point to 10x10, but it would be 10x02 or 10x03. Both those episodes had lots of TD symbolism in them, but nothing much beyond that. But of course 10x02 plays into your 2 and 11 theories, and the fact that 2x10 was 18 Miles Out.
And then there’s THIS POST about how the time 10:10 on a clock has historically represented when certain famous assassinations happened. So, it’s possible we shouldn’t be reading into the numbers on this clock at all.
I can totally see tptb using different systems for different clocks, specifically to throw us off and make the symbolism insanely hard to interpret.
But what will be in episode 10 and/or 11?
Obviously this is all speculation, but let’s return to this scene in 5x07 and some things I’ve mentioned earlier in the week. Beth goes into Edwards’ office to ask what medicine she needs to give Carol to save her. He tells her, and then she walks into the dark tunnel/hallway. They also talk about Beth having the “key” to the drug locker.
So I’m thinking what we’ll get in 10x10 or 10x11 is the “key” to where Beth is and it will have a lot to do with healing. Part of it is healing Carol. (I’ll talk more about Carol tomorrow because there’s a LOT going on with her right now and it ties directly into Beth’s return.) But I know a lot of people have theories that Beth will bring a cure for the zombie virus as well. I don’t harp on that overly much, but I think it’s a real possibility, especially with what we know of the helicopter people and them purifying water. So this scene in Edwards’ office was a direct foreshadow of when/how/in what manner Beth will return.

For me, I think it will be directly tied to Connie. I’ve been saying since the beginning of the season that 1) Connie would get a death fake out. We’ll have to wait and see what Daryl finds, but I think this episode was the beginning of Connie’s death fake out. I think he’ll either not find her and Magna at all (just gone) or else maybe he’ll find blood and her sling shot or something else that makes him think she’s dead. Eaten by walkers. So I think he’ll believe she’s dead and for him it will be a major replay of Beth’s death.
So if anything along those lines happens, I think that in episode 10/11 he’ll find out that she’s alive and where she is. You know how I keep saying he and Carol will jump on his bike and go look for someone, and I’ve said I think it will be Connie? Yeah, it’s really kinda happening that way, guys. I can’t say for sure they’ll go on his bike, but much like back in S5, they’ll leave together to go find someone who’s (most likely) been taken hostage by another group. In S5 it was Beth. Here, it will be Connie. And we’ve solved the problem of why Carol would go with Daryl: because the cave in was her fault and she has super-heavy guilt over it.
And I think Connie will end up where Beth is in some way and will help bring Beth back to Daryl, fulfilling the symbolism from 10x01 where she brought Dog to him on the beach. So I’m thinking we’ll learn Connie’s whereabouts in ep 10/11 and while it won’t be about Beth in an obvious way, it will lead to her. And maybe Daryl will finally come face to face with Beth in 10x16. That’s what I’m hoping for, anyway. But again, these are just predictions and could prove to be wrong.
More random-but-compelling evidence for 10x16? This also from @wdway:
“While I was looking at all this from I remembered something that I played around with a while back and I even mentioned it I think to you guys but now that it's closer to us it might mean more. At the end of the episode Coda we have the fire truck and that number on the side the 82. Coda series number = 59. 82+59= 141. S10e10 will be series number 141.”

This may not entirely fit into what I said above, but maybe we’ll learn what happened to the fire truck, or just what happened during the missing 17 days, in episode 10x10? No idea. Just a thought.
This is more general, but in terms of episode structure, consider this: Beth disappeared in ep 8 and the music box woke up in ep 10. I know Connie won’t technically disappear until ep 9 but the catastrophe leading to it happened in ep 8 and Beth was technically in 5x09. So having Connie “show up” again in some capacity in ep 10 makes sense. Just saying.
One more note: given that we are already experiencing a death fake out for Connie, and that I think she’ll end up where Beth is, and by extension, where Rick is, it has occurred to me that she might be the third pickle resurrection, rather than Ezekiel.
Maybe.
Overall, I still lean toward Ezekiel. Why? Well, mostly because he’s one of the four death fake out couples. And while I love Connie, she’s not AS mainstream a character as Ezekiel. I don’t think she’s had enough time on the show, enough depth of character to qualify as the 3rd pickle resurrection. But I also mentioned Jerry because of the shoe thing in this episode. And of course Heath and Jadis/Anne are still missing as well. So there might be several minor character returns that go along with the three big ones. But I still think overall the big ones will be Beth, Rick and Ezekiel. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Okay, other predictions.
Episode 14:
As I said, I’ll talk more about how Carol fits into all of this tomorrow, and there are a lot of ties, but here are some basic speculations about 10x14.
We know people often die in episode 14 of a season. (4x14: Mika and Lizzie; 5x14: Noah; 6x14: Denise, etc.) Some of my fellow theorists have thought for some time that Father Gabriel will die before Beth returns.

Why? Because he’s the embodiment of the Sirius symbol.
Okay, this becomes a really interesting discussion about the Sirius symbolism and the characters who embody it. Remember the Sirius symbolism has to do with dogs, stars, and having only one eye. I can’t think of a character who embodied the Sirius symbolism in 5b, after Beth was shot. Noah, perhaps. Honestly, nothing about him screams Sirius to me. Other things to do with Beth symbolism? Yes. But Sirius, not so much. Although there is that shot of him looking at the blue dog collar in Them after they eat the wild dogs.
In S6, Denise showed up. She had both eyes, but there was a motif about her glasses and her being kinda blind. Not to mention, she died by being shot through the eye.Though she didn’t died BEFORE Carl lost his eye, she died soon after. She also saved his life.
At that point, Carl, with his one eye and many ties to Beth, becomes something of a Sirius embodiment.
In S8, Carl dies. And right about that same time, Father Gabriel loses his sight in one eye, in an episode that ALL kinds of callbacks to Still, Alone, and Coda. Since then, he’s been the embodiment of the Sirius symbolism.
See why we suspect he might die before or right around the time Beth reappears?
It’s also interesting to note that he was perhaps the last one to speak her name. He talked to Maggie about her in Them, and while we saw Beth in Sasha’s flashback in that, and since then in the portraits hanging at Hilltop over Maggie’s desk, no one has actually said Beth’s name since FG did in Them.

In other words, the last person to have spoken Beth’s name is now the embodiment of the Sirius symbolism.
Other stuff on episode 14:
It’s important to note that we don’t KNOW any of this stuff about episode 14. People in the fandom are simply speculating on it. We know there will be an episode entitled “Look at the Flowers” and given that that phrase was so heavily emphasized in 4x14 with the girls, it would make sense for it to be the title of 10x14.
This from @wdway:
“People have been speculating for the last couple of months that episode 14 will be the episode at the hospital that was used in Slabtown. We also have had sightings of the King in the city which makes people think it might have to do with the story line that has been set up with his thyroid condition.
I want to show you a shot that's taken from earlier this season where the king is on the Hilltop radio waiting for Carol to come and he's going to tell her about his condition but before she gets to the radio he stops and leaves. This is a shot of the radio.

Look up the number at the top the very top one is 145. Now we know that the comic book issue of 45 is when Andrea wakes up from being shot in the head. And here's the radio set at channel 145 and the King is about to talk to Carol and it's concerning a medical issue. You probably know what I'm about to say serie number 145 will be S10e14.”
To me, this also backs up the idea of Ezekiel’s death fake out. The 145 ties directly to Andrea’s death fake out in the comic books.
I’ll end there. I think I’ve rambled enough for one day.
Disclaimer: I wrote this over a week ago, before Ep 9 even aired. So yes, I know that due to spoilers, some of the stuff I’ve written above is already invalid. For example, it doesn’t look like we’ll see Connie in 10x10 or find out anything about the missing 17 days.
I didn’t want to change anything in this post, partly because I’m lazy 😋 and partly because, as far as these being possibilities we’re considering, they’re still valid, even if they don’t happen in this coming episodes. Just think of them as food for thought.
So, thoughts? 😉
#beth greene#beth greene lives#beth is alive#beth is coming#td theory#td theories#team delusional#team defiance#beth is almost here#bethyl
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Hi. It’s me again. The ‘Tony knows she’s alive’ broken record. I’m sure this has already been discussed on here before, and I’m bringing up redundant information, but I’ve been combing through scripts/scenes in the light of what we’ve been told, and it’s making lines like this one stand out so hard for me:
Palmer: Yeah, Ziva, she would’ve, she would’ve gone out swinging, you know? You know, just fighting till her last breath. Bishop: Instead of ambushed in her sleep by some coward with a mortar launcher.
Fighting being the operative word that I keep going back to. Palmer got it right. In the previous episode, they’re scrambling to contact Ziva and discover that she’s seemingly gone off the grid. “Ziva’s cell is disconnected, and she’s not answering e-mails.” We hear this information way before the farmhouse is blown up - I don’t know exactly how long but it’s enough time for her silence to have nothing to do with the mortar attack.
Ziva wanted to change. She wanted a life as a different person, but I don’t care how refreshed and removed from it all she might’ve been. She’s not, for lack of a better word, a fool. Plus, she’s now a parent. And she’s Ziva. She’s a Ziva-parent (the verb Ziva-parenting can be used accordingly), she ain’t letting those defences down - she’d be ramping them right back up.
Vance: I got Mossad to confirm that Ziva’s been residing at the farmhouse, Gibbs. That’s all they were willing to share.
This line, along with the scenes with Orli, gives me the impression that Ziva was still embedded with Mossad. It goes without saying that Mossad is infamously sneaky and private for the sake of security, but they have zero need to be cagey and vague about Ziva to NCIS. I think this resistance for disclosing further details is an order coming from Ziva herself.
Mossad had to have sensed what was up and would’ve had warning/Intel to provide for Ziva. They knew (and Ziva knew) that she was essentially becoming a sitting duck by being at the farmhouse. She prepared as if something like this was going to happen - like she knew it was going to happen. That necklace*(*edited because I am a noob who completely forgot that Tony had the necklace the whole time), scarf and picture frame weren’t accidentally or miraculously scorch-free. She got Tali ready – had been getting Tali ready, pointing at Tony’s face – to be with Aba while she had to fake her death and go into hiding.
Then there’s this line:
Tony: I’m going to take Tali to Israel. Look for some answers.
By ‘answers’ he could mean a hundred different things, it’s an ambiguous line. Maybe without too much debate, you could say he wants to go there for her remains, to maybe pick up any additional possessions she has and pay his respect to the place where not only Ziva was born but where his daughter was born too. Those possessions he may find, and he can pay his respects but those remains don’t exist, and I think that would bother him. A lot. And I think Ziva would’ve known it would bother him and would’ve known that he wouldn’t stop investigating, the exact same way he did in 11x01 and 11x02 (and S6, beginning of S7 and the end of S10). I say that because using the word ‘answers’ suggests that he thinks that there is underlining, unresolved information to find. He’s got Tali now, and he is, as he says, her whole world, and with that being his view, he doesn’t need any answers to any questions if he believes Ziva to be dead. If he’s just going there to get her stuff and visit Tali’s homeland, you don't use the word ‘answers’. Maybe closure or peace but answers?
With all of that though, this moment between Orli and Tony makes all the stock I’ve put into believing the writers were carefully constructing this episode rapidly disappear:
Orli: She was quite comfortable and confident raising Tali on her own. Tony: Without ever telling me. Orli: Actually, she came to regret that decision as Tali grew but she struggled over how to break the news. She didn’t...she knew you wouldn’t be pleased.
Without any other context to put it in, that exchange is pretty damning. It’s the weakest writing in an episode that is already pretty shallow in quality. Even if there was something else going on beneath it (and I have to believe that there was), it’s such thin, illogical reasoning. It makes Ziva look selfish and worse, like a coward - it’s character assassination for the plots gain. She just supposedly died. Why dirty her name like that for no functional reason? Unless there is one. She kept Tali from Tony not because she was a ‘fiercly independent woman’ (yuck, yuck, yuck, a man definitely wrote those words) but because she wanted to protect him, herself and Tali from the oncoming threat of an attack. That still leaves questions though and is still pretty thin of a justification. I respect canon, for all its pitfalls and inaccuracies but canon is straight up stupid wrong on this particular front: Ziva - Cote’s Ziva, our Ziva - would have told Tony she was pregnant.
Look. It’s really complicated either way, if he does or if he doesn’t know if she’s alive. A lot of this stuff is probably me projecting and naively assuming that the writers care enough to put a sliver of thought into anything Ziva related, but again, it’s fun to speculate.
#zivacaps meta#long post for ts#ziva david#tiva#hey! trying to meta my way through terrible terrible writing
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A robotic vacuum is a wonderful way to indulge your laziness. But for some people with pets, the idea of coming home to a pet “uh-oh,” that the robotic vacuum has mistakenly spread around the house is the stuff of nightmares.
For those folks, 360 Smart Life has just introduced a new triple-eye LIDAR robotic vacuum called the 360 S10 that can easily detect obstacles—including pet poop. This robotic vacuum offers up to 3300 Pa of suction, and it can mop as well. But is it any good? That’s what we’re going to find out in this product review.
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Meet the S10 by 360 Smart Life
The 360 S10 is a robotic 2-stage vacuum with mopping capabilities, but this isn’t 360’s first robotic vacuum. Previously, the company has had a lot of success with both its S7 and S9 robotic vacs. The S10, however, is brand new for 2021. It features triple-eye LIDAR, which uses a SLAM algorithm and direct time of flight (dToF) to detect hundreds of obstacles as it works its way around your home. LIDAR is the most advanced navigation technology for robot vacuums.

Technical Specifications
Robot
Dimensions: 350mm diameter x 85mm tall (13.78 inches diameter x 3.35 inches tall)
Weight: 3.85kg (8.48 lbs)
Battery Capacity: 5000 mAh, 72 Wh
Voltage Rating: 14.52V
Power Rating: 30W
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Dimensions: 220 x 153 x 100 mm (8.66” length x 6.02” depth x 3.94” height)
Rated Power/Power Output: 24W
What’s in the Box?

In the box for the S10, you’ll get:
Main Robot Unit
Charging Dock
Power Adapter and Plugs
Water Tank
Mop Bracket
Mop Pad
User Manual
Small Cleaning Tool
Dust Bin, Main Brush, Side Brush (attached to the main unit)
How is the 360 S10 Different From Eufy, Xiaomi, and Dyson?

The first thing you’ll notice about the s10 is that there is no protrusion for the LIDAR on the top of the vac. If you’re familiar with 360’s previous models, you’ll know this is a new design. The lack of a LIDAR sensor on the top of the unit makes it ultra-slim and allows it to easily fit under furniture. 360 calls this the “hidden triple-eye LIDAR."
Now LIDAR is available on many robot vacs out there, but the S10’s triple-eye LIDAR gives the robot much more precise obstacle avoidance. The main sensor can detect obstacles between six and eight meters away. In addition, the front laser can detect objects taller than 0.4 inches to determine if they should be avoided. Finally, the wall laser can measure obstacle height to help the robot learn whether it can travel under or past objects. 360 claims that this gives the S10 no blind spots.
Obstacle avoidance was the most significant thing stopping me from looking into robot vacs. But, with the triple-eye LIDAR, the S10 sees objects and navigates around them. That includes unexpected presents from any of the pets. The S10 also features up to 3300Pa of suction and the biggest water tank on any of 360’s models.
Setting Up the S10 Robot Vacuum

A critical area that I always try to evaluate is the ease of setup. With the S10, you unbox the unit, plug it in, download the 360Robot app, and pair your S10. It’s super simple, and for me, it only took a few minutes. The vacuum also uses Wi-Fi to communicate with the app, but setting that up was also pretty simple.
Download: 360 Robot for iOS | Android (Free)
The Best Robot Vacuum for Pet Hair?

Now, let’s talk suction. One of the essential features, and probably the feature I like the most about the S10, is its 4-stage suction. I have four pets in the house, and they shed a lot. With the S10, I can adjust the amount of suction based on how dirty the floor is. There are four different suction modes.
Quiet mode is 600Pa, and this is the mode I find the best for operating the unit early in the morning. For me, I’ve found that running the S10 early, before the house wakes up, is best to ensure that everything stays tidy.
Standard mode is 1000Pa, and that will be the default for most normal cleaning tasks. I’ve been using standard mode to tidy things up in the afternoon when the noise isn’t going to bother my wife or me while we’re working.
Powerful mode is a step above the standard mode and offers 1500Pa worth of suction. This mode is excellent for low-pile carpet and area rugs. We mainly have hardwood floors in my house, but we have a couple of low pile rugs throughout, and those rugs tend to collect pet hair. So, using powerful mode gets those rugs spotless.
Max mode is the last stage here, and it’s the strongest, at the full 3300Pa. If you’ve got a lot of dirt and debris to deal with, then the max mode will pick that stuff up. Using Max mode, I was even able to pick up small nuts and bolts.
Out of all the modes, max will also use the most battery, so it’s not something you’ll want to use constantly if you want to preserve battery life.
All of these options mean that dust bunnies will have nowhere to hide. I think that the S10’s suction is superb, especially for people with pets.
A Robot Vacuum That Works With Amazon Alexa

There is also smart assistant capability with the S10. It offers voice control for Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and Clova. Visual instructions are included in the 360Robot app. Now, I prefer using the app because I have more options, but it’s nice to know that while you’re sitting on the couch if you want to shout at Alexa or Google Home to start cleaning, you can do so.
No-Go Zones
The Vac also allows you to set no-go zones. I have two sets of stairs in my home that I don’t want my expensive robot vacuum anywhere near, so I set up no-go zones in those areas.
These zones are pretty easy to set up, and you can have more than one if you have multiple areas that you want to avoid. I should also note that the S10 can accurately detect things like stairs.
It uses edge detection and six anti-drop sensors to keep the unit from winding up at the bottom of the stairs in pieces. While we’re on the topic of stairs, the S10 will also support up to 10 floors in the app. It can also automatically switch between maps when moving to other floors.
A Killer Robot Vacuum and Mop Combo
The S10 has a 3-stage intelligent mop function built-in that uses high, medium, and low spray volumes based on the depth of clean you need. With the low spray, I could mop my entire downstairs section, which is a little over 1200 sq. ft., and only use half of the water in the tank.
360 states that this size tank can mop up to 2153 sq. ft. without needing to be refilled, and based on my testing, I would say that figure is pretty accurate. Even on the medium spray setting, I found about 1/4 of the water left in the tank when the S10 finished mopping my entire first floor.
The electric water tank on this unit is 520ml, which is around double the capacity of other cleaners on the market. And the S10 has a 15% larger mop pad than the previous S9 model. Obviously, higher spray means more water usage, but low spray seemed to work well for routine maintenance cleaning. Additionally, the S10 has an automatic mode that can adjust water volume based on the level of mess on the floor.
Auto Carpet Detection

360 Smart Life’s S10 can also automatically detect carpets. When it does, it increases the suction power by one level. The vacuum does this via an ultrasonic sensor built into the undercarriage of the unit. If you are like me and have a few small rugs in your house, you’ll appreciate the added suction that the S10 uses when encountering carpet. Using the same sensor, the S10 is also smart enough not to mop on a carpet.
Smart Cleaning Modes, Noise Reduction, and Battery Life
There are also 18 intelligent cleaning modes for the unit. You can clean specific areas, clean the entire house twice, customize a plan, deep clean an area, auto divide areas, mop only, vacuum only, name individual rooms, and much more. The flexibility of the S10 cleaning modes will be a huge factor for some, and customizable cleaning is a feature that I enjoy.
So, based on 360’s lab conditions, the company claims that the S10 will stay under 60dB when operating in quiet mode. The way it does this is through a 10-stage process that routes the intake and exhaust flow, adds baffling cotton around the ducts, and even utilizes a brushless motor.
The S10 also features a 5000mAh battery, allowing the unit to operate for around 3 hours on low mode. When the power gets low, the unit will automatically return to the charging station and juice itself up before it continues cleaning. In my testing, the S10 took an average of about 45 minutes to clean the largest level of my home. During that time, it lost anywhere between 40-60% charge depending on the mode options I was using.
User-Friendly Dust Bin

The S10 houses a 500 ml dust bin, and to empty it, you remove the bin and press the green button. There’s a little door on the bottom of the bin that flips open, and the dust falls out without getting you messy.
360 claims you can should two weeks out of this dust bin, but for me—and maybe other pet owners, I think it might be best to empty it after every use, or perhaps every few uses. There’s also a washable mesh filter on top that will help avoid dust and hair clogging up the bin.
Build Quality
This unit is pretty stout as robot vacuum cleaners go. It’s got these giant wheels on the bottom with what looks like rubber dirt-bike tires. These tires help with carpet and with getting over raised egresses, like the one in my downstairs bathroom. The unit is primarily made of plastic, but it doesn’t feel cheap.
Auto-Mapping With the S10 and 360’s App
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One of the best features of the S10 is its app. With it, you can automatically map 2D and 3D models of your living space, you can set those no-go zones we were talking about, you can set cleaning modes and do a bunch of other stuff.
The LIDAR helps a lot here because it allows the S10 to create a map of your space when you first run the unit. So, essentially you just hit the clean button once the unit is fully charged and then let it make its way around your home. I had no trouble with the unit detecting all of my furniture, including tables, desks, chairs, and rugs. It also correctly identified carpets.
Testing the S10 Robotic Vacuum
To test this unit, I sectioned off an area of my living room and used some of the features. The first test was for obstacle avoidance. I used a few dog toys to see how the unit navigated around each after asking it to clean the entire area. While the unit did bump up against these toys a bit during this test, it didn’t drag them around.
To test the suction capabilities, I laid out some pine nuts, some cereal, some small nuts and bolts, and some kosher salt. Then I put the vacuum to work. After two passes at max, the unit had cleaned up the entire mess and filled the dust bin with the debris. The only piece it didn’t pick up was a small flat key, which was probably heavier than the unit could handle.

I also wanted to test the mopping performance, so I “spilled” some ketchup on the floor and engaged the mop function. The S10 did a decent job cleaning up the ketchup, but there was still a slight stickiness after completing the cleaning. I also had to remove the brush and the dust bin and thoroughly wash them to ensure no ketchup remained inside the machine.
Finally, to test the anti-drop sensors, I instructed the vac to clean an area deliberately over a staircase in my home. Once the unit “saw” the edge, it immediately changed direction away from danger. This test was a nail-biter, but it was good to know that the anti-drop functioned well.
What Do We Love About the 360 S10?

I have to say that the S10 is a fantastic little robot vacuum and mop combo. I love the ease of use, and I like that this unit allows me to indulge my laziness.
The no-go zones are awesome, which means I won’t have to worry about the unit getting damaged when I am not around. The anti-drop sensors add to this feeling of security. Having a robotic vacuum that can get underneath my furniture is also a huge help.
Finally, by far, the most important feature to me is the LIDAR object detection. I have been holding off on looking into robotic vacuums because I didn’t want to babysit a device. With the S10, I feel confident that even if my pets have an accident, I won’t come home to a huge mess all over my floors.
What’s Not to Love?
First, the device does tend to burn through the battery when you’re using it on higher suction levels. But even at the max level, the S10 was able to clean my entire downstairs level on a single charge. After the robot finished the first floor, I took the unit upstairs with the charging station and let it charge up to 100% again before running the vacuum. To get to full charge on this device took a little over an hour, starting at around 30% battery.
Battery life may not be an issue, but if you have a considerably-sized home or a home with multiple levels, you might get frustrated trying to use this vacuum continuously. I only have two floors in my house, so this wasn’t much of an issue, But I can see how it may be important to some people.
Finally, the bin on the S10 did get pretty full after only one or two days of cleaning. Now, this behavior may change as those first few cleanings always find more pet hair and dirt. The bin is easy enough to empty, though, and the tool inside helps to break up hair and other debris that might get hung up in the brush.
Can You Repair the S10 Robotic Vacuum?

There are a few components here that can be replaced or serviced by the end-user. The brush on the unit is easy to remove. The same is true for the water tank, the mop pad and bracket, and the dust bin. Most people would have no trouble replacing these components if they ran into a problem.
I think where I would draw the line would be with the internal components, the LIDAR sensors, or the bumper portions of the unit. For those tasks, it might be better to send the unit in. The warranty on the S10 is one year, so if you have issues, I wouldn’t hesitate to reach out.
Should You Buy the 360 S10?
I really like this vacuum. Like, a lot. My wife even commented on how much cleaner the house feels after having the floors vacuumed and mopped daily. Currently, the S10 is in the production phase but will be shipping very soon. For those looking to buy their own S10, I’ll invite you to check out 360’s limited-time Indiegogo campaign for early-bird pricing, free shipping, no customs fees, and some extra goodies. 360 expects to fulfill pre-orders between June and July.
Overall, the S10 is an exceptional choice for those who want to get into the realm of robotic cleaners. And for people who have one or more pets, this vac will give you back a ton of free time that you can use for other, more exciting activities that aren’t housecleaning. If you’re in the market for a robotic vacuum cleaner, the s10 by 360 Smart Life is an excellent option.
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1/3 Hi! First of all I wanted to confess I absolutely adore your blog, I'm always excited when you published a new post. It seems that you've been following J2 from the start, so I'm wondering do you think they are acting bolder now? Especially Jensen, he has dropped so many bombs since, I don't know, S10? The “No, not ‘hey guys’. This is for us.” and "damn is he loveable" and the almost kiss...Jensen has no shame at all, I love him.
Dear Anon,
Please accept this gift
as my apologies for taking forever and a day, as thatbeautiful Oasis song, and pleasedon’t go away.
Thank you for your lovely words and I’m glad myramblings make sense to you. There’s a name for that condition tho, when twopeople share in each other’s craziness, my dear friend Freud called it folie à deux.
I guess it shows that my J2 Madness has beenwith me for long. Yes, J2 chemistry got me good and hard on the first episode of SPN that I watched, back in 2005. I remember looking at Jensen, especially, andthinking: “man… That boy is a good actor but I guess he didn’t get that lookquite right. That’s not how you look at your brother.” So, the what’s wrong with this picture mademe search for the actors and, sure enough, there were rumors, of course. As forme, well…
But let’s get to your question. You’re absolutely right: the Js have been acting bolder and bolder,especially after the move to Austin, the #AustinEra. Jensen has let his Alphashow after his Beta’s breakdown in 2015; he may have managed to avoid his boy’sbreakdown in 2014 but it eventually exploded in the following year. I’d say theevents that lead to Jensen’s move to Austin, made him show to the world he isan Alpha through and through—and what an amazing Alpha he is! After the 2015Breakdown, his Alpha became even more dominant and it is now impossible, atleast for me, to see him as anything but.
During the early years of J2, Jensen was much morereserved to the outer world but at the same time, they couldn’t help but showhow in love they were—the difference is that they were mostly free men and therumors didn’t fly above the radar. Their chemistry bled through the characters and all waswell until people started talking. J2 were not careful. Vancouver is a liberaltown with people who really don’t bother with your gayness or fame, so theystarted being sloppy. They ended up drawing attention from a then famousgossiper, Ted Casablanca, who probably had an ITK source, and waited until theboys premiered the movies they had filmed to start gossiping about them,linking them to BlindVices.
Let me just make a quick pit stop here and tell you thathalf this info is true and the other half either a case of misinformation or purposefullytwisted for effect. Jared (supposedly Judas) would never have acted like thattowards Jensen. J2 were always a unit, there was nothing one would do behindthe other’s back; what we see now has always been their M.O. Those weredifficult times for them but they were fighting together, not against eachother. So read the blinds but with a grain of salt.
The Js indeed, rumor has it, were pressured to take measuresto cover their relationship, as early as 2008. Take this resurrected threadon spn_gossip, for instance:
Anon1:
Anon2:
As for Jensen “I Don’t Give A Fuck” Ackles, I’mpretty sure he’s had it with bearding and PR. He’s suffered the pains of hidinghimself and has seen more than his share of suffering from his loved one. I’lltell you what: there is no need for damage control for their slips simplybecause the marriages, kids and wife stans have given those boys free rein toeven kiss on a Con stage, I’d say. We see it every day when TinHats point somethingout and are attacked by #Hetards defending J2’s heterosexuality.
Most of all, I think Jesen IDGAF Ackles has had it with#Hetards. They started off just being an annoying source of awkward laughter but are now a source of second-hand embarrassment, managing to be annoying tothe point of repeating stupid same questions again

and again:
And always being unceremoniously squashed by our Alpha (All hail to you, KingJensen!).
I know that 2017 seems to have started with two left feetbut nothing the Js do is unplanned. These men are strategists and I believe theevents we’ve seen since the beginning of the year are telling us J2 are layingthe groundwork for the end of SPN, and the end of their bearding contracts. Justtake a few things into consideration and a possible hidden meaning to them:
— Launching of Family Business –> DH’s and her family’s financial security
— G’s IG –>the fame she wants so much
— J2 not being seen outside work/Cons –> they’re not attached to thehip and they're obviously not together
J2 have 2017 and 2018 to carry out their plan and let their Beardswalk on their own feet. Then, by the time episode 300 is done we will seechanges. Do you want to bet?
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