#and they all so heavily misunderstand the point of hinduism

[kabhi-haath-pakad-k-tu-mera]

Every time I come across a 'Hindu mythology aesthetic moodboard' I go through the stages of grief.

[nothorses]

there's also an implication in this conversation that I do not like- and that I have seen vocalized pretty blatantly, too- that atheism isn't actually something that truly exists, and the concept itself is just a damaging remnant of Christian ideology.

like- the idea that whether a thing is religion or not is purely arbitrary, that there is actually no easy way to define "religion" and not participate in it, also very much means that things like "the separation of church and state" are necessarily impossible. right?

and if your religion is also just the culture you're a part of, you can't really consider yourself non-religious, because culture is just religion. if you have culture, you have religion, and everyone has some kind of culture.

I often see people point to like, Hinduism; originally not considered more than a lifestyle, until Christians needed to define it in order to convert people from it.

and yeah, yes, the two are very heavily tied. but I think y'all misunderstand what atheism is if you think of it as an absence of belief.

Atheism means you believe that there isn't a higher power. like any religion, there are values that follow from this: we have to decide why it is we should do good things, what it means to be good, what the point of living is, and all the other questions every religion has to answer.

it's just... not formally organized, so those questions are usually asked and answered individually, or in small family groups and maybe social circles.

and yeah, there are atheists that never do this. we don't have systems or processes for converting, so it's easier to just like, decide you aren't religious anymore and never question what that means or entails. but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, either; it doesn't mean that deeper introspection isn't a pretty logical next step for a good number of ex-theists who become atheists, and a pretty intrinsic part of being raised atheist.

what it means to be an atheist varies by the person, their individual experiences with religion, and surrounding culture. the beliefs you have are likely going to be informed by how they contrast to the religions you have experience (direct or tangential) with.

and... that's also not untrue of any religious person.

what bothers me about this conversation is that a good amount of it relies on how people view atheists from the outside; a lot of which is informed both by the surrounding Christian-dominant culture of a lot of these folks, their own religions and individual experiences with religion, and the interactions they've had with atheists.

the reason we see people framing atheism as a total lack of personal ideology is because they literally just don't know what it is, and they're often unwilling to listen to atheists about it. a lot of them don't question (ironically) that these ideas they have come from Christianity and religion, even if they themselves are not Christian.

and if that sounds like how a lot of atheists in Christian-dominant cultures view minority religions like Judaism, that's because it is!

I don't think it's the exact same; there's obviously a very different system of power and oppression at work with religious minorities than there is with atheism. but I do think that the people trying to criticize atheists who aren't making an effort to listen & learn about religions they don't already have direct experience with, also need to listen & learn about the thing they're trying to criticize. ideally from multiple people who have direct personal experience with it, and ideally from a diversity of experiences within that group.

and I think the crux of this conversation is that everyone needs to be operating under the assumption that their ideas may not be coming from pure logic and reason.

[viralhottopics]

Reza Aslan outrages Hindus by eating human brains in CNN documentary

The American author filmed with a cannibalistic sect for his Believers series, with fears that it could increase hate attacks against Indian Americans

Reza Aslan, the scholar and TV presenter, has been pressured to eat human brains while filming with a fringe, cannibalistic Hindu sect for a new series on the worlds religions.

But that might be the least of the problems the show has caused the American author.

Some Indians and American Hindu groups say the opening episode of his CNN series, Believers, which focuses on the obscure Aghori sect, was Hinduphobic and sensationalised aspects of the worlds third largest-religion.

The episode shown across the world on Sunday comes amid heightened concerns, taken up by senior Indian government ministers, over the vulnerability of US-based Indians and Indian-Americans following a spate of alleged hate crimes in recent weeks.

In the program, Aslan encounters a group of Aghori nomads outside the Hindu holy city of Varanasi, who smear his face in cremated human ashes and persuade him to drink alcohol from a skull.

An Aghori ascetic, who at one point also threatens to decapitate Aslan for talking so much, also feeds the presenter who he claims is a piece of human brain.

Aslan followed up the episodes debut with a promotional post on Facebook, writing: Want to know what a dead guys brain tastes like? Charcoal. It was burnt to a crisp!

The segment ends with the holy man throwing his excrement at the TV crew as they and Aslan run away.

Aslan makes clear in the episode that the Aghori who number only a few thousand of the worlds estimated one billion Hindus are a fringe group, and also interviews Aghori adherents who do not practice cannibalism.

But the focus on such an extreme sect led to accusations the episode had mischaracterised Hinduism to viewers with little understanding of the religion, at a time when the Indian-American community is still reeling from attacks on two Hindus and a Sikh man in apparent hate crimes in the past fortnight.

The latest victim, a Seattle man, was allegedly told to go back to your own country before being shot in the arm.

With multiple reports of hate-fuelled attacks against people of Indian origin from across the US, the show characterises Hinduism as cannibalistic, which is a bizarre way of looking at the third largest religion in the world, the US-India Political Action Committee said in a statement.

In a charged environment, a show like this can create a perception about Indian Americans which could make them more vulnerable to further attacks.

Tulsi Gabbard, the first Hindu elected to the US congress, also tweeted this week that she was disturbed by the program.

CNN is using its power and influence to increase peoples misunderstanding and fear of Hinduism, she wrote

Aslan apparently sought to find sensationalist and absurd ways to portray Hinduism.

Aslan and CNN didnt just throw a harsh light on a sect of wandering ascetics to create shocking visuals as if touring a zoo but repeated false stereotypes about caste, karma and reincarnation that Hindus have been combatting tirelessly.

Vamsee Juluri, a professor of media studies at the University of San Francisco, said it was unbelievably callous and reckless of CNN to push sensational and grotesque images of bearded brown men and their morbid and deathly religion in such a tense atmosphere for Indian-Americans.

Rajiv Malhotra (@RajivMessage)

.@CNN @rezaaslan @CNNOriginals Your new serial is heavily Hinduphobic. Ashes are immersed, not “dumped”.

March 4, 2017

Shekhar Gupta (@ShekharGupta)

Indiana Jones journalism @CNN There’s no secret to ghats & Varanasi city of moksha & rebirth not death. May be Trump is right abt fake news http://bit.ly/2mdh7yi

March 5, 2017

Indians on social media also complained about the programs characterisation of Varanasi as the city of the dead and the immersion of ashes in the Ganges as dumping.

Reza Aslan (@rezaaslan)

This is a show about the Aghori not Hinduism #believer http://bit.ly/2mdosOf

March 6, 2017

Aslan said: Despite all this, I know that there are still those who are offended by the episode, especially when it comes to its treatment of such issues as caste discrimination, which remains a touchy subject for many Hindus in America.

Read more: http://bit.ly/2mMK0o6

from Reza Aslan outrages Hindus by eating human brains in CNN documentary

[viralhottopics]

Reza Aslan criticised for documentary on cannibalistic Hindus

The American author is filmed eating human brains for CNNs Believers, with fears that it could increase hate attacks against Indian Americans

Reza Aslan, the scholar and TV presenter, has been pressured to eat human brains while filming with a fringe, cannibalistic Hindu sect for a new series on the worlds religions.

But that might be the least of the problems the show has caused the American author.

Some Indians and American Hindu groups say the opening episode of his CNN series, Believers, which focuses on the obscure Aghori sect, was Hinduphobic and sensationalised aspects of the worlds third largest-religion.

The episode shown across the world on Sunday comes amid heightened concerns, taken up by senior Indian government ministers, over the vulnerability of US-based Indians and Indian-Americans following a spate of alleged hate crimes in recent weeks.

In the program, Aslan encounters a group of Aghori nomads outside the Hindu holy city of Varanasi, who smear his face in cremated human ashes and persuade him to drink alcohol from a skull.

An Aghori ascetic, who at one point also threatens to decapitate Aslan for talking so much, also feeds the presenter who he claims is a piece of human brain.

Aslan followed up the episodes debut with a promotional post on Facebook, writing: Want to know what a dead guys brain tastes like? Charcoal. It was burnt to a crisp!

The segment ends with the holy man throwing his excrement at the TV crew as they and Aslan run away.

Aslan makes clear in the episode that the Aghori who number only a few thousand of the worlds estimated one billion Hindus are a fringe group, and also interviews Aghori adherents who do not practice cannibalism.

But the focus on such an extreme sect led to accusations the episode had mischaracterised Hinduism to viewers with little understanding of the religion, at a time when the Indian-American community is still reeling from attacks on two Hindus and a Sikh man in apparent hate crimes in the past fortnight.

The latest victim, a Seattle man, was allegedly told to go back to your own country before being shot in the arm.

With multiple reports of hate-fuelled attacks against people of Indian origin from across the US, the show characterises Hinduism as cannibalistic, which is a bizarre way of looking at the third largest religion in the world, the US-India Political Action Committee said in a statement.

In a charged environment, a show like this can create a perception about Indian Americans which could make them more vulnerable to further attacks.

Tulsi Gabbard, the first Hindu elected to the US congress, also tweeted this week that she was disturbed by the program.

CNN is using its power and influence to increase peoples misunderstanding and fear of Hinduism, she wrote

Aslan apparently sought to find sensationalist and absurd ways to portray Hinduism.

Aslan and CNN didnt just throw a harsh light on a sect of wandering ascetics to create shocking visuals as if touring a zoo but repeated false stereotypes about caste, karma and reincarnation that Hindus have been combatting tirelessly.

Vamsee Juluri, a professor of media studies at the University of San Francisco, said it was unbelievably callous and reckless of CNN to push sensational and grotesque images of bearded brown men and their morbid and deathly religion in such a tense atmosphere for Indian-Americans.

Rajiv Malhotra (@RajivMessage)

.@CNN @rezaaslan @CNNOriginals Your new serial is heavily Hinduphobic. Ashes are immersed, not “dumped”.

March 4, 2017

Shekhar Gupta (@ShekharGupta)

Indiana Jones journalism @CNN There’s no secret to ghats & Varanasi city of moksha & rebirth not death. May be Trump is right abt fake news http://bit.ly/2mdh7yi

March 5, 2017

Indians on social media also complained about the programs characterisation of Varanasi as the city of the dead and the immersion of ashes in the Ganges as dumping.

Reza Aslan (@rezaaslan)

This is a show about the Aghori not Hinduism #believer http://bit.ly/2mdosOf

March 6, 2017

Aslan said: Despite all this, I know that there are still those who are offended by the episode, especially when it comes to its treatment of such issues as caste discrimination, which remains a touchy subject for many Hindus in America.

Read more: http://bit.ly/2mMK0o6

from Reza Aslan criticised for documentary on cannibalistic Hindus