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Stan and Eda as divorced besties where they have a lil reunion when both of their world ending crises are over and Eda realizing Stan is in love with his brother and she's just like nods "I get it". Eda is in love with Lilith and I'm not taking criticism on that.
Anyways Raine = Fiddleford
#like if you agree lol#stancest#whatever the eda x lilith ship name is#yes i ship fiddlestanwich#and i just think raine/eda/lilith#blame stancest for this#i couldnt ignore the similarities#i dont think they care about incest in the weird witch world#like its not even a concept#you cant try to fight me on it but the block button is my best friend (lol)#someone put the mystery trio next to eda/lilith/raine and tell me you don't see it#you cant#cause im right#mabs and dip meeting Luz and the three of them ranting about Paz/Amity#Lilith and Ford just standing there staring at each other#like🧍♀️🧍♂️#just me rambling atp
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I love their idyllic ending as much as the next stancest shipper, but it's so much fun to imagine all the realistic issues and inconveniences of the cohabitation in close quarters they impulsively threw themselves in after decades of conflicting feelings and absence.
#stancest#drawing Stan with big fluffy pirate hair is so addicting#oh to grope his fat titti and fall asleep content and in peace with the world#I can't blame Ford
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Stanford « Blood-sucker freak » Pines. Close ups below 😋




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Ok I’m doing it. Idk if anyone will read this but here’s a compilation of all the stancest crumbs from bill’s book along with a stancest endgame theory:
I say theory because I can’t think of a better word atm. I know this is obviously not the intention of the text. I am merely taking the information we were given and twisting it to fit my sick agenda. It’s what bill would have wanted (Well maybe not quite like this but lol fuck him anyway).
So! Obviously billford was the star of the show here, but as I learned a little bit more about the codes I didn’t just learn what they say. I learned that all the stancest ship fuel is contained within them, and even tho it’s not much in comparison, what we did get is pretty profound!

There was a brand new code alphabet introduced in this book that we’ve never seen before. This cute little bros code that Stan and Ford invented when they were kids. Besides this image, this code is used only three times in the entire book.
The first (and insanely subtle) instance is on this page where ford concludes that Stan is the only person he can turn to after bill drives him to his breaking point:

It’s very small and hard to make out. On the window amid the equations.

It says: “miss you”
Pertaining the contents of this page, my first thought was that this is probably meant to be interpreted as a message directed at Fiddleford. But that wouldn’t really make sense given how it’s presented. This wasn’t written in after the fact. It couldn’t be directed at Fiddleford, they’re standing together arm in arm. It’s a code only Ford and Stan know, and this pic wasn’t taken long after they separated. This message must be about Stanley.

Ford uses the code on the next page, the last lost journal page where he’s talking about reaching out to Stan. It translates to: “have I been too harsh all along?”
This is so gut wrenching to me because he’s never written in this code literally anywhere else in the entire journal. And he says this vulnerable little line about Stanley in this code he probably hasn’t used in years but still remembers, in this code that only Stan would be able to understand besides himself.

The last usage is by Stan. Because the rest of the family is watching him write this, to the rest of them it just looks like he’s censoring his cussing for the kids’ sakes. But to ford, stan’s slyly writing him a little message that only he can see…
And what does it say?
“Love ya bro”
Ford’s arc in this book is realizing he should put his attention and concern in the ones that love him rather than fueling his obsessive hatred toward the one who hurt him. He comes to understand that he’ll be happier if he’s open about his past and rely on his family whose affection isn’t conditional like bill’s was. He moves past his shame, and comes out of the paranoid isolation that bill had encouraged him into.
And of course he receives this comfort from his whole family. But I think it’s very interesting how bill is framed as this toxic ex, Fiddleford is framed as the one he should have put his trust in during that pivotal time in 80s where ford ultimately blew his chance, and then there’s Stan.
Stan is hardly brought up at all but his presence lingers in more than few of Ford’s vulnerable journal entries. Stan is the one who put Bill in his place. Stan is the one who made Ford realize where his priorities should be. Stan is the one who’s accepted him all along and is the one remaining by his side in the end.

Bill even blames Stan for stealing ford from him like a jealous ex who can’t stand the fact that ford has moved on with someone else. (This is directed at the reader but it mirrors his frustration with the stans when they worked together to defeat him)

In conclusion: incest somehow ended up being the healthiest partnership option all along. Who knew?
BONUS CODE THAT CAN BE MISCONSTRUED IN A MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE WAY:

At the bottom of the first lost journal page where he’s talking about his loneliness and yearning for human connection, he mentions Stan in a code again. After embarrassing himself in front of the waitress he says: “Stanley could have made her laugh” 💔
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Analysis aside do you have any personal headcanons for the Stans/Stancest?
The way I had never stopped to think about it... But yes, I suppose I do! They just kept accumulating over the years, and many of them were “stolen” from people/posts I’ve seen. I think my headcanoning isn’t ever fully divorced from analysis, since a lot of my hcs are born out of canon observations, but there are many self-indulgent/random/funny ones as well!
I’ve included both types of hcs below! 👇
🐇 Baby Ford cried during the fifteen minutes he spent separated from Stan when he was born as the older twin. Stopped crying immediately as Stan was placed with him.
🐇 Stan was Caryn’s favorite child. She didn’t dislike Ford, Stan was just her baby and more relatable as a fellow creative liar. Ford low-key has mommy issues over this.
🐇 Stan wasn’t the only “protector” in their childhood. When it came to Filbrick, Ford attempted to defend Stan to the best of his abilities. (He would never let Stan take the blame for something he did either, as I’ve seen happening in some fics.)
🐇 Ford & Stan’s childhood dynamic was low-key like Phineas & Ferb. Ford was the one who decided what they were going to do every day and dragged Stan along for the ride.
🐇 I mostly hc Ford as the middle child, with Shermie as the eldest brother (because the math really doesn’t make sense otherwise), but sometimes I like to imagine Ford as the eldest simply because being the firstborn would make his ego go bananas.
🐇 Ford doesn’t really gaf about Shermie. He’s the forgotten sibling. Every time Ford says “my brother,” you can be sure it’s his brother Stanley. And Stan? Well, he cares about Shermie a bit more, since he’s a family man, but not nearly as much as he cares about Ford. (I don’t see this in a tragic way, more in a funny way. Shermie isn’t hurt by this obvious fact of life.)
🐇 Stan’s memories in canon are not reliable, especially when they involve women. This is how I explain away the different/earlier designs for the (baby) Stans: Stan pictured himself as the most stereotypical nerd “loser” he could think of in his memories, and the result was the look in Dreamscaperers. And I don’t think Carla was simply a bitch who left him for a hippie. Stan is just misogynistic.
🐇 Ford was indeed jealous of Carla, though. Basic one. Stan and Ford were so codependent & inseparable and Ford was so autistic & clueless that Stan once told Ford he was going out with Carla and Ford understood he was meant to go as well, not even realizing it was a date and ruining the romantic vibes with his third-wheeling.
🐇 Fiddleford was only ever Ford’s friend, and they didn’t have romantic feelings for each other. (I really like Fiddleford, but not as a romantic interest for Ford, for many reasons. Sorry, no yaoi here.) They stay really good friends after the canon ending.
🐇 Bill and Ford were indeed romantically/erotically interested in each other, but nothing like smooching or sex ever happened between them. (In Bill’s case, it was more obsession and possessiveness than love per se; not “toxic yaoi,” but abusive yaoi.) Ford post-Bill’s betrayal fucking hates Bill’s guts and would never forgive him.
🐇 We all know Fiddleford, Bill, and Dipper were all Ford’s failed attempts at rebuilding the dynamic he had with Stan, right? Before Bill and Fiddleford arriving in Gravity Falls, in a moment of intense loneliness, Ford attempted to clone himself with the photocopy machine. It went as well as you can imagine.
🐇 Sometimes college/researcher!Ford didn’t hang up the phone and just ranted about his life to the “mysterious person” (a prank caller?) who somehow knew his number. (Stan listened to everything very attentively, glad for the chance to hear his brother’s voice.)
🐇 Stan fantasized about reuniting with Ford to get through his worst moments in the streets as a young man, going so far as to mimick Ford’s voice.
🐇 Ford also mimicked Stan’s voice while on the other side of the portal to push himself into surviving when things got really tough. Picture him staring wistfully at the photo he carried in his coat pocket like a WW2 soldier staring at the photo of a pin-up-looking sweetheart in a dramatic war movie.
🐇 Both twins talked to their reflection for that same reason. They also wrote things in their “bro code” that they would never send to each other, especially on their shared birthday.
🐇 Pre-Weirdmaggedon Stan was really pissed off at Ford and he actually meant it when he said Ford wasn’t his family anymore. Ford, meanwhile, didn’t take him seriously and still considered him his family. He would be really hurt if he knew the truth, but still too proud to admit it.
🐇 Mabel didn’t know about stancest, but she shipped them up until the moment Ford went too far and tried to separate her and Dipper. After Weirdmaggedon she started shipping them again.
🐇 I really like to read and write stancest fanfic with teen/young adult/pre-Weirdmaggedon Stans and imagine them smooching but when I think of the “canon” in my head I mostly think of them getting together romantically only in their Sea Grunkles era. It’s my “standard setting” hc, if that makes sense. It’s kind of what I’m picturing unless stated otherwise.
🐇 Regarding sex, Ford is definitely the top/dom one to me, hahah. That’s another “standard setting” hc, unless stated otherwise, in a very specific situation. Ford is too bossy & controlling, so he’d have to relax and let himself trust Stan and relinquish that control. Stan, on the other hand, is mostly a teasing brat.
🐇 Ford still has nightmares about Bill post-Weirdmaggedon. Stan has nightmares as well. They cuddle in bed together, listening to each other’s heartbeats (reassuring proof they’re alive & safe) until they fall asleep.
🐇 Ford gets really protective of Stan after Weirdmaggedon. Overprotective, even. And somewhat bossy about it, because this is Ford we’re talking about. He put a tracking microchip in Stan that Stan doesn’t know about. He would put one in Dipper and one in Mabel if he had the chance.
🐇 Stan’s inferiority complex regarding Ford isn’t gone and sometimes still shows its ugly head. Once Ford pretended he was very impressed by Stan’s sailor knot (when he actually already knew how to do it himself and was just trying to make Stan feel happy and proud about it). Stan eventually discovered the truth and spent an entire week giving Ford the cold shoulder. He still allowed Ford to cuddle and spoon him every night, but Ford wasn’t forgiven till the morning he brought breakfast in bed to Stan. Not so much because of the romantic gesture but because it reminded Stan there was something he could do that Ford couldn’t (cook).
🐇 Ford once sneakily read one of Stan’s hidden Duchess Approves fanfics and realized Stan was heavily projecting onto the duchess in love with her twin brother. Stan discovered Ford had been snooping in his things because Ford couldn’t help but correct the grammar of the entire thing with a red marker. After that, Ford became his beta reader. Sometimes they even roleplay it.
🐇 Stan has Ford massage his back daily. Ford doesn’t complain. He loves a chance to worship his brother’s body.
🐇 Ford gained a bit of fat after Stan forced him to eat real food instead of his nutrition pills. He’s still slimmer than Stan, though.
🐇 Ford tried to force Stan to exercise himself. It didn’t work. Stan likes life comfy & easy and punching monsters is already enough action and pain for his back. (He’s a pillow princess.)
🐇 Ford actually does know how to cook, but the result is something only Ford himself would eat. It’s edible, he swears, and actually delicious in the Bad Food Dimension (yes, Stanley, it exists, stop laughing), but tastes terrible for everyone except for him.
🐇 Ford, ever since they were children, thought that Stan doesn’t pay attention to his nerd rants. Stan, ever since they were children, paid much more attention than Ford would ever dream of. He loves hearing Ford talk about his interests. And because he’s a dumbass, he’ll never ever tell Ford about that. He’ll just roll his eyes and call Ford a nerd.
🐇 Ford somehow discovers the truth one day. He lets Stan keep his facade. It makes him unbearably fond & all warm inside and Stan is puzzled by his sudden good mood. Nothing Stan does annoys him for at least a few days, which in turn starts annoying Stan.
There are probably more I’m forgetting, but I hope you enjoyed at least some of these. I know I have very strong opinions sometimes, hahah.
#stancest#the bunny answers#i said that mabel didn’t know about them#but like#there’s an exception#if you are tumblr user @piningstans reading this#then she does know#mabel always knows
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guess who found extremely old and rough doodles of a crack AU that was inspired by one episode from Primal but I scrapped it, I liked how these came out and I wanted to show just so you guys don't have nothing while I finish some drawings!!
Also warning this is extremely self indulgent I just wanted to draw pregnant Stan and living his best life so be warned
Stan while wandering through the streets of South American comes across a wishing well of some sorts (which was inspired by a fic that I don't remember the name ('': ), drunk and with nothing to lose, he throws a coin for the "fun" of it some sort. It was going to have some body horror considering that... A dick changing to a vagina and make room for a womb would definitely hurt.
Realising in the worst way possible that the fountain did work (a little too well), he decides to get his head out of his ass and try to at least get his life on track the best he can just so he wouldn't ruin the kid's life (he doesn't have a self preserving bone in his body but now that he's not "alone" anymore he had to force himself to grow some healthy habits - and like hell he's going to damage his kids just because of his stubbornness and past). It occured the same way in the show, with him crashing the car, faking his death; but not before he goes to somewhere far away, his few option chosen being Oregon, in a small secluded town (unknowingly for him, where Ford lives)
It took him a while to get accustomed to, well, everything. But slowly became routine, having to get clean and get his weight back, acquiring a job and a small apartment (enough for him and his kiddo), medic and therapists visits (which he almost gnawed his skin off at the thought of vulnerability, but he wanted to do his kid right, so the whole package it was). It was hard at first, but life's going well for him, he's in a better shape than he was in years at the few months of his pregnancy, he has a nice (and stable) salary and he has a home to go back to.
And then he meets Ford.
Man's almost having a heart attack right there, his brother who he hasn't seen in 10 years since he was kicked out is standing right in front of the cashier, staring at him with those almost dead eyes if it weren't for the amount of emotions there. He only realizes what he's looking at when he unconsciously shields his stomach, swollen with life (having gotten so used to it he didn't even try to hide it anymore). Ford on the other hand is livid, his twin - the one who ruined his life - was living in the same place as him for some forsaken reason. Not only that, he's pregnant, which shouldn't even be possible.
Their relationship is shit basically. They're still tense with each other, barely talking unless necessary. Stan just wants to go on with his life, Ford as much as he's seething wants to know everything and anything about his brother (even though he doesn't admit that). Fiddleford is suffering, until he convinces his friend to invite Stan to their house (yknow to at least talk, an actual conversation instead of borderline stalking on his job).
Get a load of this jealous and emotionally constipated loser lmao (I don't blame him I would crash out too if I found out I fumbled Stan). Bill is there too bc that fucker can and will ruin lives for the entertainment of it (but he stopped going to Stan's mindscape bc he beat the shit out of him there). I didn't really have much planned aside from this, and I didnt know where to go wit this. Might make some doodles based on this just for fun
Again, thank you for reading!! And I swear I will post my art I just work extremely slow ('': and I'm currently working on a Stancest AU lore I swear I'll feed you guys soon!!!
#goat draws#goat rants#ford: why do you look so fa-#stan death staring him:#ford: .... healthily filled#ford you are not beating the allegations
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I've had this Stancest idea for a while and I need to get it down.
Sea Grunk era, pre-relationship. Stan and Ford have feelings for each other but they haven't told each other. There's been signs here or there but nothing concrete. However, while out. Stan starts to feel courageous that even if Ford doesn't feel the same way, then he can at least be truthful.
So one night, Stan is trying really hard to tell Ford. It's not coming out right and Stan is very nervous. He can't seem to get the words out right but Ford stops him - tells him that he knows what he's trying to tell him. And Stan is so scared but excited. But Ford pops the bubble and says that Stan is gay (which isn't wrong but not what he was going for.)
Stan, seeing as his way out of this horrible conversation, tells him he's actually Bi. Ford does the whole, "You're my brother and I'll love you no matter what." And in an act of solidarity, Ford tells Stan that he's gay, which Stan supports (for obvious reasons). But that night, Ford is laid up in bed, tossing and turning. He's feeling guilty, horribly guilty. He believes that his own foolishness has costed Stan a life in which he could settle down with someone, be it man or woman. He spent all his time trying to get Ford back, he neglected his own self. And Ford always feel guilty for wanting Stans sole attention but he believes that he owes Stan this, to find romantic companionship.
So in comes Match-Maker Stanford Pines.
He spends all his time trying to get Stan to tell him what he likes about men and women. And Stan is reluctant because the only person he's really into is Ford. But he obligies because when he doesn't, Ford looks so unhappy and he can't stand unhappy Ford. He blames himself for making him unhappy. What Ford doesn't realize is that the characteristics for the different dates are all characteristics he likes about Ford, nerdiness, brown hair, glasses, kind of sophisticated, things like that.
Through out their travels, Ford sets Stan on a few dates with people they meet in ports. Stan, not wanting to make Ford unhappy, goes on the dates. They're nice and everyone is kind to him and he can't argue that they aren't his type, but he gets sad because he would rather be with Ford than these people. So when he comes home from the dates, obviously not super happy, Ford feels like he failed him, and the cycle continues of Ford feeling like he's failing Stan and Stan feeling guilty for leading these people on and only wanting Ford.
One date, Stan just can't go with it and ends of leaving early. He walks back to the boat and get inside their cabin but freezes, when he hears Ford moaning his name in the bedroom. He cracks the door open to see Ford jerking it with Stan's names on his lips, laying on Stan's bunk.
This is all the confirmation Stan needs before barreling his way inside and confronting Ford. They get through some very direct confessions and make passionate love in bed.
#stancest#sea grunk stancest#i need stan to go on all these failed dates and only see ford#stan accidently saying fords name while having sex with one of his failed dates#ford sniffs stans boxers when hes away on dates because hes a desperate man#but its ok because stan is also a desperate man#pathetic old men
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obseeeeessed with all of your omegaverse stuff lately!! it's so good and i love your approach to it all! and i saw your tags for your recent post about how it made you think of alpha/alpha stancest, and i'm just sayin that if you wanted to share those thoughts....👀???
OMFG HIIII I'VE BEEN OBSESSED WITH YOUR BLOG FOR MONTHS--
ALPHA/ALPHA THOUGHTS ABSOLUTELY I HAVE SO MANY ASJFNSIDBEKJDNEKSNX
- Ford is kind of pompous like 'Oh I'm not gonna be like those Other Teenagers that acts like an animal because of their secondary gender I'm above that'. First day he presents he attacks his father for saying he stinks. He's not above anything.
- Stan presents like half a week later same as my o/o fic because he's the younger twin, Filbrick isn't nearly as nice to let him get a swing in before he locks him in the bathroom until he stops clawing at the door like a feral cat.
- Caryn's behavior Changes around them when they present, she takes a back seat completely because shes afraid of alphas in general.
- Heats and Ruts both make the person super touch starved and lonely, it isn't long before Ford and Stan have figured out they can yell at eachother through the vents. Filbrick gets pissed at that though because you can hear them yelling from the shop so he just grabs Stan by the shirt and drags him into his room with Ford like "There! You wanna talk so bad, talk all you want!" and slams and locks the door.
- Filbrick knows what's gonna happen, Stan and Ford are sitting in eachothers' stink and suddenly everything they're doing is pissing eachother off. Ford says that aggression is a symptom and as long as Stan stays on his side of the room they'll be fine. Except both of them break this rule immediately because they wanna be closer to another body. Ford blames Stan, Stan blames Ford, they start fighting and-- Oh. OH THAT'S NOT FIGHTING--
- The way they were fighting from the start was weird through, Stanley was angry, Ford thought he would be just as feral as he was but. Stan isn't hitting him really, even though he's a good boxer. He's just kinda... Pulling Ford closer??? Not even to a point Ford can't get out of it, and Ford Knows if Stan wanted to restrain him he probably could. But Stan's just... Not. Not going further than Ford can handle, not hurting him, just touching him. Ford isn't the honorable type though so he's not all 'he's going easy on be because he thinks I'm weak' because Ford Knows He's Weak but Stanley is a stupid, rutting alpha and he's holding himself back for Ford. He wasn't holding back with Filbrick, he wasn't holding back with anyone. Just Stanford.
- Ford decides to test this out by doing what his momma taught him and lying. Stanley yanks Ford's arm and Ford winces. Stan immediately stops, starts making tiny whines and pulling at his shirt to check on his shoulder while asking what hurts. Ford pulls him closer because it gives them both the contact they've wanted and 'really, knucklehead, we could have skipped the fighting and gone straight to this' as if he wasn't half the problem
- Ford and Stan touch angry boners 😔
- Ford and Stan are both still breathing in other alpha which is making them adgitated so the cuddles don't go nearly as smoothly. Stan says Ford is too boney, Ford says Stan is too heavy, Stan lets Ford pin him and start biting the hell out of his tits while Stan pulls his hair and claws at his back
- they're so grounded when they're done rutting but for now they're tearing the shit out of their mattress and eachother
#stancest#a/b/o dynamics#THANK YOU FOR THE ASK#Ford pops his knot in Stan's jaw at one point it's very rude#asks
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I haven't seen GF in years but was abruptly reminded a while ago and found your blog and your Pinecest+Stancest posts while looking at the Pinecest tag so I gotta share this plot that's now trapped in my brain. If I got the details about canon wrong, blame the passage of time, not me lol.
Ok I'm sure I'm not the only one who came up with that but: Mutually Unrequited/Pining Stans that both never acted on their feelings and spent the entire separation depressed about it and blaming the way they were hiding their feelings partially for how things went down. Enter Pinecest, only just clocking that this is Not Normal Sibling Feelings.
Stan encourages it when he first realizes it because he never got to even try, but maybe Mabel and Dipper can be happy. So he bullies any boys Mabel brings home, shuts down Dipper's flirt attempts with Wendy & Pacifica - Dipper catches on to his feelings first and wants to prove to himself that he's NORMAL OKAY??? he is, in fact, super not normal, but he'll scream that he is at the top of his lungs - and then Ford returns.
Ford also immediately catches on to Dipper's crush. Because he gets Dipper, and of course, he'd love his twin. He can't see Mabel's feelings as easily because he's insta-transferencing her and Stanley and the idea of her liking Dipper back is unfathomable (read: heartbreaking) because then it means perhaps Stanley could've loved him too.
But he cares about Dipper, so Ford thinks the best he can do is maybe help cut off those feelings at the knees before there's no going back for him, at least Dipper might not totally lose Mabel the way he and Stan thought they had lost each other, might eventually lead a normal non-recluse full of regrets life unlike them. So Ford offers to let Dipper stay without letting on his real reason to do so, and Mabel FLIPS OUT.
The thoughts have been building in the back of her head for a while, and she's suddenly confronted with what she never thought possible. Losing Dipper. And it hurts so so much and then Weirdmageddon comes and things go completely off the rails and now she knows she loves him but he's her brother, the world is ending and maybe he doesn't actually like her at all.
It ends with Dipper admitting to Mabel why he was even contemplating separation and Ford is trying to stop him while Stan has been working for this for months, damnit, and Ford's attempts at shutting the confession down just kill him. Dipper says it anyway, and Mabel thinks she's dreaming, but yeah, dummy, I love you too. How could you even think otherwise?
And seeing their dramatic first kiss totally guts Ford. He's happy for them, clearly, but he wants this oh so much and he can't have it. Stanley is shocked at how much Ford's affected by this development and things just blow up from there, and before either of them know it they're kissing.
Meanwhile Mabel and Dipper finally remember where they are and who they're with and fuck this is going to be difficult to explain - wait wtf GRUNKLES WHAT ARE YOU DOING. Well nothing they weren't right before that.
The rest of summer is an insanely awkward transition period where both couples are trying to work out how to deal with this new dynamic and what it means for their lives, especially for when Dipper and Mabel go back home. But everyone is insanely happy and when Dipper and Mabel come back to GF it's together, to a married couple of Grunkles (in everything except the eyes of the law).
And perhaps someday a - but lbr it'll be two - Pinecest Baby crawls around the Mystery Shack to everyone's delight...
ANON YOU'RE SO CRACKED AAAAAAAAH
such a cute premise of them finding out about each other's budding relationships despite the warnings from Ford and adamant attitude from Stan. SO good. flavor.
also implying that ford and stan were like watching/listening from around the corner or something is peak. honestly? this ask means so much to me.
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Please, I have so much love for your fem!stan, please tell me your thoughts about fem!mulletstan, or fem!drifterstan. I once read a fanfic where Filbrick kicking out Stan was just a scare tactic, I imagine he’d have the same sentiment for a female Stan as well, but he’s too prideful to go get his little girl after it backfires and she doesn’t come back home.
Meanwhile, Stan’s determined to prove she’s just as capable as any boy after years of being undermined for being born a girl! Even so, she’s not above using her feminine wiles to sling her FDA acknowledged merchandise, after all sex sells. Eventually she soon realizes that sex does indeed sell.
OOOHH Anon, tesoro, SAPESSI! You have no idea how happy your messages makes me, because you’re enabling me to YAP about my favorite topic, that I’ve been thinking about A LOT. Thank you so much! WARNING: Stancest is ALWAYS implied/established in my musings. The following lucubrations are no exception. In general, I think fem!Stan would get punished way less harshly than his canon male counterpart. Not that she’s coddled or untouchable- Constance would get hit occasionally, if she acts way out of the line, by both parents. But, I personally don’t think kicking her out would ever be a thing- not even as a threat: Given the time period/culture, the (horrible) assumption that throwing a teen boy out would not only be a punishment, but also a formative experience of sort- to make him self-sufficient- would NEVER be expected to apply to a girl. On the contrary: Constance would be perceived as someone that could NEVER be self-sufficient. Not only because she’s the “gentle sex”, but also because she’s a weird, off-putting dunce of a girl, unlikely to get picked by a wealthy enough- or even honest man that would take care and provide for her. If we were talking about a version of this universe where the machine accident happens like in canon, Constance would receive a slap across the face, as a punishment for what she did, and a particularly heated, demeaning tirade from Filbrick, imo. Now, that said--- I have two main favorite divergences, I’ve toyed with, for fem!Stan's future:
1) A version where Constance did destroy Ford’s machine, on purpose, in a fit of anger, because she’s subconsciously trying to get kicked out: rationally, she is aware how hard and scary it would be to run away from home, and that her family would look for her. But, if they HATED her, not only they wouldn’t feel bad, they’d also take the very hard decision for her, of cutting her out. But, what happens is that- they DO act like they despise her- but still, they won’t kick her out! It’s an outcome so painful and so humiliating, it’s the final straw that makes Constance snap and run away- to basically become drifter!Stan. And, Ford’s resentment and hatred, in this version, not only comes from Stan taking away his chance to go to his ideal College, but also because she abandoned him! Off to live her indecent, dangerous life with some biker- probably- when if, had she been patient for a few years- had she truly loved him as she said- Ford would had been the one to provide for her- spoil her rotten, even. Like, this is a universe where Ford was THE only eldest son, with an implicit duty to be his sister’s protector, and if you add in he’s been in love with her, too… In the 10-years-later reunion, Ford would have this incel-like feeling of pain and humiliation- because his baby sister at his door is wearing a miniskirt, and her hair is cut so short, and it’s evident she’s not that innocent anymore. But still, as tired and battered by life as she is, Constance would still NOT be begging Ford to be her savior and mer-- and let him take care of her! [Complicated incestuous tension ensues].
Version number 2) Constance accidentally destroyed Ford’s machine, just like in canon- but doesn’t get kicked out and- since she’s a girl and Ford is more protective and softer, after some silent treatment, he forgives her. And actually, he uses what happened to his advantage, to coax Constance into following him to Backupsmore: "it’s gonna take him so much more time to become successful, now that he’s relegated to that college, meaning he and Stan would end up separated so much longer! She’d have to remain at Glass Shard Beach all alone, for ages! But.. if she followed him, she could get a job, a room apartment of her own, and… nobody would know them, over there. They could even date in secret." And, Constance would hesitate, because she dreads an unfulfilling future as her brother’s accessory, but also, she is in love with him, and she inevitably internalized part of the sexism she’s been subjected to for most of her life, so… she accepts. Even pumps herself up, gaslights herself into thinking it’s gonna be a fresh, exciting new start, away from her shitty small town. And indeed… Even if the twins enjoy the relative freedom of their romance, far from home, inevitably Constance feels unsatisfied, like she just switched the background, but she’s still working as a waitress, doing nothing she truly loves, or feels good at. That’s when I like to imagine she ends up messing it up big time, by joining an MLM or something, in attempt to find her own success lmao. AND, it’s complicated, because she does find out she is actually GOOD at selling shit to people. This is her true calling! But, the business was scummy as fuck- to an illegal degree- and she ends up arrested for the first time. And, escapes from prison for the first time. Stan is a chaotic disaster, impossible to contain, in every universe. To make it short, once again the story goes back to its tracks, and Ford and Stan separate dramatically. Now, this version actually had a VERY angsty ship-focused sub-divergent version with Fiddleford involved, and a very jealous Ford. But I don’t even know if you’d be interested in that, so I’ll stop here. ++++ I do love that part of your ask, about Stan realizing she can use her sex-appeal to her advantage... To imagine her seducing people into helping her/condoning her schemes is so fucking sexy~ I will think of a specific scenario, because damn.
#stancest#fem!Stan#genderswap#stan pines#long post#oh shit I really gotta go to bed#mmhh it's pretty late so if this whole ramble is a mess I blame lack of sleep#I still hope you'll enjoy reading
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the stancest shippers polycule is my dream blunt rotation ngl
EHEHEHEE they’re my dream blunt rotation too… i don’t blame u :DDD
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If we assume the canon way things whent down is the Stancest 'route' (because I mean, come on lol) Then what do you think a world where they are completely platonic would be like? how would it be different?
And imagine Stancest Stan and Ford meeting them lol
(sorry in advance, my memory is a little vague on some stuff 😅 also this is just a vague idea so pls niceness)
I imagine that Ford told Stan he'd be going to collage instead of sailing away in their room because like- why would he need to do it on their swings at sun set? (I don't remember if it was actually sunset or not? Am I buggin?)
Stan gets upset and they get into a fight, maybe Ford calls him childish or that says he has got to 'grow up' wich OC pisses Stan off even more. Things escalate and Ford mentions something Stan did, maybe the time Stan stole their dads gold (necklace? Idk) and OC Filbrick over heard and kicks Stan out for it.
Fords project never got ruined and he went to the fancy college (west coast was it?)
Stan blames everything he has to go through now on Ford. Having to run scams, dumpster dive, sell his body ect bc like, fair?
Ford sends the post card, not because Stans the only one he can trust bc that's kinda a crazy thought for someone you haven't seen in so long and who you got kicked out at 17 but bc he literally has no one else.
Stan takes longer to show up because he isn't even sure he is GOING to show up at all and doesn't drop everything on the spot to go met Ford.
Maybe because of that Ford like- loses a eye before Stan gets there. Ford tells Stan to take the journal and leave and Stans just like, WTF!? SERIOUSLY!!? they get into the fight because "fuck you Ford!"
Ford gets pushed through and Stan just- doesn't know how to feel. He accepts Ford's dead and uses Fords collage money to just- live out the rest of his life peacefully. Maybe he got married to Susan (no longer lazy Susan bc Ford never met fiddleford) and they have some kids, I imagine two. One named after Sherman and the other their mom (idk how to spell her name and am lazy)
Ford kills Bill and idk- maybe never makes it back?? Maybe he finds his own way idk.
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One of the things I love about old Stancest (I think that’s my favorite era for them) is the fact, imo, that their relationship never really will be the same anymore. Not necessarily the angst of it all, but the new romantic tension that this would bring.
Ok, so. Just look at this.


Ford’s drawing of himself and his brother on the Stan O’ War II in Journal 3 is of course adorable, but beyond that, it’s clearly inspired by Ford’s beloved picture of them as kids. As if the Stans will, now, return to the same sweet camaraderie they always had. Will they, though?
This isn’t meant to sound ominous. I just don’t think that would be realistic, and that isn’t what the Lost Legends comics show us, either. Don’t Dimension It is apparently set before the Sea Grunkles era, but already after Weirdmaggedon. The behavior that we see from the Stans is, to put it simply, the behavior of an old married couple, with lots of clowning and bickering. The fact that Mabel had to intervene and advise two grown men to take care of each other instead is both delicious Stancest fuel and ridiculously funny!
Now, their relationship wasn’t always like that. I find it great that in the same book we have three stages of the Stans’ relationship: pre-Weirdmaggedon old Stans, post-Weirdmaggedon old Stans, and child Stans. The Stans as children act visibly sweeter towards each other, imo, than even post-Weirdmaggedon Stans. They haven’t quite recovered that childlike innocence, nor do I ever expect them to.
I know that at this point I might just be confirming the obvious, but 1) I promise I have a point, and 2) what I like to do sometimes is to focus on a little detail that everyone kind of already knows and think of all the implications. A bit like tearing a bread apart with my fingers, piece by piece.
There’s simply too much baggage, too much history between them now. Even if they made up and Ford apologized nonstop like Dipper tells us in J3 and Stan forgave him wholeheartedly, things won’t magically return to the point they were before Ford started to feeling “suffocated” by Stan. (I do believe the cracks in their relationship started before the science fair accident. I will expand on this in a future meta!)
Not only because of what happened between them, but because of what happened to each of them, separately. Both have changed a lot (not just physically, but mentally and emotionally as well), became different people to survive, and are now deeply damaged. Both are carrying huge traumas of their own, and since they’re emotionally constipated old men with an attitude that would make Mabel shake her head in disapproval, I think it’s going to take a while before they fully trust each other with their past. They know their brother deserves the truth, of course, but it’s not that simple. There’s a lot to unpack, and I imagine that the fear of being judged and the fear of upsetting the other don’t make for a good mix. What if Stan hears a bad tale of Ford’s portal days, or Ford hears a story of Stan’s homeless days in which he barely escaped alive, and blames himself?
More than that, their own physical appearance drives the point home. Ford’s body is all athletic, likely full of tattoos (both embarassing ones and cool ones, I think) and scars. Stan, on the other hand, makes use of hearing aids, dentures, and an orthopedic pillow; probably with a few scars of his own, more than just the brand, and a slouch he didn’t have in his younger days. The contrast is even clearer when Stan isn’t wearing his Mr. Mystery suit and girdle. They still look decently like twins to deceive both the kids and Bill (and make Pacifica think Ford was Stan but hotter), and I’m sure sailing will help Stan’s health, but some of those differences are impossible to erase. They went from actually identical twins who could only be told apart by Ford’s fingers to grown men with strong characteristics of their own.
Once upon a time, I imagine, wether romantically or not, they were as familiar with each other’s secrets, thoughts, and bodies as with their own. Now they’re practically strangers. United by a very intense love and connection that couldn’t die in the 40 years they were separated, but strangers all the same.
All of this can sound a bit sad, perhaps, but I think—and that’s the point I want to make—it’s a sexy dynamic with a lot of potential. It gives space, for example, for exploring and discovering, and, since I’m a shipper, falling in love with that stranger that your twin brother became. The lack of familiarity gives way to a lot of romantic and sexual tension. Both of them know and understand a lot of what they didn’t back then. As an example, Ford, in my opinion, values Stan now in a way that he never did before. You only miss something after you lose it, after all, and they spent so much time apart and yearning and longing and repressing and overall feeling like a part of them was missing. The pent-up desire, as well, heh 😏
Imagining them being vulnerable after all of that—crying into each other’s chest (mostly Stan tbh, since Ford isn’t much of a crier), mapping out each other’s bodies, finally opening up—that’s my jam.
Perhaps they can’t recover the old dynamic, but they can make something even better.
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A Postcard from New Mexico
*POINTS AT @verysorrytobother AND ALSO THE ENTIRE GF SERVER* BLAME THEM FOR THIS OAIHRKEJKSDKJN
anyway here's the non-character tags from ao3 bc i just remembered copy and paste exist
No Archive Warnings Apply, another one from the discord server, Brief Violence, reverse postcard au, stancest shippers Do Not Touch, Not stancest - Freeform, stan has a potty mouth, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Universe - Ford Pines Never Went Through The Portal, Mullet Stan Pines, Paranoid Ford Pines, Get Fucked Rico, get rekt Bill, in which the stans look at each other and go "wow. you really live this way?", instead of fighting and then immediately getting separated by the fabric of reality, i mean they still fight, but there's a DIFFERENT kind of threat that tries to take one of them away for good, Stan Pines is a Good Brother, Ford Pines is Trying, Rico Gets Yeeted, Bill Gets Concussed, no beta we die like rico's dignity, banged this out in like 24 hours oisadkfnajshk, oh!, minor sex mention, but it's just ford going "making my way downtown walking fast...WALKING FASTER", while unnamed minor characters are Yeah, that's just about the extent of it tho aoisdfjkjcs
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Summary: Stanford turned the postcard over in his hands, and the picturesque vista of New Mexico gave way to an all-too-familiar sloppy scrawl.
It simply said, "PLEASE COME."
Perhaps Stanley could be of aid one last time...
(or, very has once again injected Ideas into my brain. today on the hyperfixation show: what if ford wasn't the one who sent the postcard?)
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and the opening snippet because I'm Too Powerful For Tumblr: …ironically, the person I will entrust the final of my journals to is the least trustworthy man I know. He is a thief and a charlatan, but a well-travelled one. I have recently received a postcard from him; he asked me to see him, and if I still believed in benevolent fate, I would take this as a sign.
Benevolent fate or not, however, the fact remains that the final volume is safest far, far away from me this place, and S has had nothing to do with me for upwards of a decade. If anyone can secure the journal, he can.
I will be setting off immediately once I bury this tome. The further the journal gets from the danger of my folly, the better.
Perhaps the mistakes of the past can yet be undone.
Perhaps he can still prove his worth to me.
All I can do now is go.
#rosie writes#gf#stan pines#ford pines#mullet stan#paranoid ford#bill cipher#rico gravityfalls#*DROPS THIS HERE QUICK BEFORE WORK AND RUNS*
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Compounding Interest
warnings: stancest, guilty ford/post-amnesiatic stan, dubcon relationship, interglutal sex, anal fingering, fluffier than you’d expect
Part 2 of “Rate of Interest”
Stan pulls him back into a kiss, deeper this time, momentum carrying them back until Ford’s head bumps the wall. Stan pins him there, pushing one leg between Ford’s, already going so much faster than he expected but—
But he promised himself he’d keep Stan happy. So he kisses back and moans in all the right places. It’s not unenjoyable, and it’s the first touch that has been human in decades. But it’s still weird.
But it’s worth it, to keep Stan. If this is the price he has to pay for every misfortune he’s brought his brother, then he’ll pay it. He owes it to Stan. He owes it to the life he’d ruined for his brother.
They fumble through the ship, back to the bedroom.
Ford laughs internally and Stan laughs out loud when he remembers their foresight to just get one big bed, easier to fit in their space, they have a dividing pillow and everything. Stan pushes him down on the bed, and Ford’s internal laughter turns a bit hysterical as Stan is a little more…enthusiastic than he’d anticipated.
Stan doesn’t rip any of his articles, but he is efficiently stripped in a very short period of time.
And in between rolling his sweater off his body, Stan is feeling up every inch of Ford, searching him as if he had hundreds of dollars taped to him.
Stan’s lips meet Ford’s again and Ford isn’t sure if he should be de-clothing Stan as well when Stan does it himself, shucking off his pants and now his body is pinning him to the bed and it’s a lot more than he expected. Literally, as he feels Stan’s erection growing against him and his brother grinding down against him.
Stan produces lube from who knows where and pours it over a couple of fingers. He breaches Ford with one finger, poking in and out, and it is weird. After a few moments he adds a second finger, and he moans as a small, burning rush goes through him. Stan pats his thigh with his free hand as his other mercilessly runs in and out. He crooks his fingers just right and that pain explodes away into pleasure, hitting something inside of him he didn’t know he had.
“Stanley! Oh-,”
“Heh, there it is,” Stan grins wide and finds it again. It’s overwhelming, and Ford tries squeezing his legs together to keep it from overwhelming him. But Stan isn’t slowing and he hasn’t been touched like this in years and-
“Stan, Stan I’m gonna cum--ah! Stanley pl-” Stan grabs Ford’s dick and strokes him, hard and fast, and it’s all too much to handle right now. His body doesn’t care that it’s his brother doing this, his body doesn’t care that his mind is yelling WRONG, WRONG, WRONG even as his lips said yes, his body is coming hard and painting his chest white and his toes are curling and a yell is echoing around their small room as Stan strokes him until he’s dry.
Ford feels a little trembly and a little like crying and a lot like a towel wrung out to dry, sweaty and used. He looks up at Stan, who’s hovering over him, grin wide as he cards a cum-sticky hand through Ford’s hair, leaning over to kiss him.
“How was that for a first time? First time, right? We didn’t do this yesterday and I forgot? Heh, heh. Did I really rock the boat for ya, sailor?”
Stan looks satisfied with himself and waggling his eyebrows and he’s so Stanley in this moment, making a bad joke on top of a bad pun, and Ford can’t help but let out a puff of air that could be a laugh in response.
“Yeah, you definitely did, Stan,” Ford answers honestly. There’s a wave of shame that’s threatening to take him, right now, and he’s fighting to keep it at bay until he can be alone. But he’s naked and his brother is naked and he just got finger-fucked and it’s hard to keep a straight head after that.
Ford looks down and sees Stan’s dick is still hard. He hadn’t rubbed it out on him or gotten to fuck him. He hesitates for just a moment before knowing what he needs to do. At the very least, it’s only polite. At most, he owes this to Stan, too.
“Need some help, there?” Ford asks, a light question with a light smile and a nod down at Stan’s crotch where he could see the tip leaking pre-cum through his boxers.
Stan looks down between them and then back at Ford. “What exactly are ya offering?” he smirks and lowers his hips to rest against Ford’s. Stan lightly swivels his hips in small circles and the slight drag of the fabric against Ford’s sensitive dick post-orgasm makes him shudder as Stan grinds.
“W-well, that’s up to you,” Ford evades, not sure what he wants to give. What Stan wants from him. In the meantime he reaches up with one hand and cups the back of Stan’s neck, bringing him lower for a kiss. Stan complies, letting more of his weight settle on Ford as he deliberates. Ford can’t help the soft oomph he lets go as Stan lays on him.
Something about the weight seems like it should be oppressive, but it just feels so good, being surrounded, held down, unable or unwilling to move out from under him. Like his choices were taken away, like he can’t blame himself for what’s happening between them.
Ford deepens their kiss, fingers tensing on the back of Stan’s neck, and Stan’s soft swivels grow stronger.
“Mm,” Stan hums, leaning back from Ford’s lips, kissing across his jaw and scratching his scalp, hand still sticky and making a weird feeling settle through Ford. “I know what I want, if you want it. Flip over for me,” he requests, removing his hands and using them to shuck off his boxers, moving off Ford enough to let him do as requested.
There’s some rustling cloth noises and Ford peaks over his shoulder to see Stan tear off his shirt as well, both of them fully naked. When Stan next leans over him he can feel his incredibly hairy chest and gut pushing him down into the mattress. He turns his head sideways to breathe, resting on the pillow.
He also feels Stan’s dick wedge its way between Ford’s cheeks and for a moment he fears Stan will try and penetrate him so soon after his orgasm. He can only assume it would overwhelm his senses, the hazy feeling on him wearing off faster as that flash of fear hits him.
But then Stan kisses Ford’s neck, kisses his cheek, and doesn’t angle his hips for penetration. He starts rocking his hips, sliding his dick between Ford’s cheeks.
“Hey, clench up for me, will ya? You’ve got a fantastic ass, I’d love to use it,” Stan says, patting Ford’s ass with a few light swats. Not enough to really sting, but to get his point across. Ford turns his head, muffling a moan into the pillow. He does what Stan said, feeling the air pressed out of his lungs as Stan bears his full weight down on Ford.
“Sweet Moses, Sixer, how the hell do ya feel this good?” Stan groans behind him, hot breath tickling Ford’s neck as Stan rocks faster. He put no lube on, so it’s a dry rub between his ass, but it’s not terrible.
Fingers dig into Ford’s hips and Stan frots against him, pushing the air out of Ford as his brother bears down with every rock forward. Ford clenches, his entire body going tight and Stan speeds up further.
God, how did he end up here? Ford chokes back a couple of tears as Stan pants roughly in his ear, whispering dirty words and everything he wants to do together. He wants the exploration and the adventure, but before Stan’s even finished he’s questioning himself on why he lied about wanting this kind of love, this type of exploration.
“Mm, oh god, Ford,” Stan moans in his ear, turning and kissing him, seeking out his lips. Ford closes his eyes tightly, unable to stop his hips from wanting to rock back on his brother. His mind is fighting his body at this decision, but he just needs to get through a little bit more. He gasps out a breath as Stan presses him more into the mattress, fucking him down, hips rocketing and rubbing and managing to make it good for him, despite already making him cum. His dick is rubbing into the mattress and he mewls out a whimper at the sensations running through him.
“Sta-Stanley,” Ford pants, turning his head up as far as he can twist. Stan captures his lips again, kissing the life out of him as he rocks with abandon, balls slapping against Ford.
“Mmm, Ford-ohh!” Stan moans as he finally comes, hips rocking through it, fingers pressing bruisingly into Ford’s hips and a little bit of drool dripping out of Stan’s mouth and onto Ford’s cheek.
When Stan finishes he collapses on Ford completely. He gathers Ford up in his arms, his forearms going under Ford’s head, holding his brother closer. Stan breathes deeply, sweaty forehead pressed to the back of Ford’s neck as he recovers.
Ford can feel his brother’s rapid heartbeat slowing down. A hand wiggles out and finds Ford’s, capturing it to interlace fingers. Stan brings their joined hands up to kiss the back of Ford’s hand. It’s a sweet gesture, reminding Ford of the affection his brother craves. The simple acts that mean so much to him. To both of them.
After a few minutes more Ford composes himself, turning to look at Stan. “We should clean up, Stan,” he suggests.
Stan nods, eyes heavily lidded, rolling to one side and pulling Ford with him. Ford feels the sticky slide of cum on his back as Stan shifts them over. Ford pats the arm around his chest and ducks under it, leaning on one elbow to look at his brother. Stan looks so content, so at peace. Ford can’t handle wiping that expression off his face. He refuses to be the reason Stan worries anymore.
He takes a breath and smiles, leaning down to peck Stan on the cheek. “I’ll be right back,” he promises, rolling off the bed and padding to the bathroom. He wets a washcloth with warm water, rinsing the semen off himself. He allows a few unsteady breaths as he talks himself through the logic of his decision.
He owes this to Stan. He wants to do this. And at the very least it will be...interesting. He finishes cleaning himself and walks back into their bedroom, leaning over Stan and carefully wiping him down, re-folding the washcloth to hang over their bed frame while it dried.
Ford finds his discarded underwear and his pajamas, pulling out a pair of Stan’s too, if he wants, and changing back into some clothes. Stan sits up, pulling on his boxers, leaving his chest bare.
Ford slips back into the bed, the dividing pillow thrown to the foot of the bed, into Stan’s waiting arms.
“I know we’ll be great together,” Stan whispers, gathering Ford’s back to his chest, kissing his neck, his shoulder, anywhere he can reach. Not to arouse, just for comfort. Just as when they were kids, Ford can’t help but feel a sense of safety and rightness for being with his brother, but it is distorted by this new relationship Stan has proposed.
But he’ll get used to it. Maybe he’ll even love it. But no matter what, he’d do it for Stan. His brother deserved the world, and the least Ford can do is give it to him. He folds a hand over where Stan’s hand is on his chest, the other reaching back to rub against the thigh of a leg flung over his own legs.
Ford forces himself to relax in those arms, to snuggle back further into Stanley. He goes through a breathing exercise that is supposed to help him sleep. It pushes his mind away from the wrongness of this scenario just enough that he can enjoy the warmth of the arms around him and hopefully convince his brother that he wanted this too.
#stancest#not sfw text#heed the warnings#older than they thought they'd be#heylark writes#part 2#rate of interest#(bc it's only gonna grow)
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*bringing you more a/b/o stancest thoughts like a cat bringing its owner dead mice*
alpha ford and beta stan. except ford finds himself only attracted to betas. specifically beta males. he freaks out since its an alpha's expected duty to procreate and seek a suitable mate for this purpose. at some point he internally blames stan. if he wasn't so exposed to a beta while he was going thru puberty he would be normal! there is no denial or deeper thinking needed! it will go away now that stan is gone...right?
Technically if we're going off interpretation of abo and the biology behind it that I have on my blog, betas are intersex so its less a matter of Ford being unable to have children and more Ford being seen as incompetent/dysfunctional for not seeking out omegas, specifically by older generations like his parents. If it's about procreation though and Ford wanting/expecting kids Stan can't give him, the issue would only really arise if Stan was an alpha and made Ford attracted to alphas. Alpha Ford's definitely got resentment for Stanley for this though, if Stan weren't so suffocating Ford might be able to take the time and figure out why omegas are supposed to be appealing but no Stan's just gotta keep sitting there. Sexily.
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