#bloom theory

[clownowo]

Sisters :]

[pininiu]

Color doesn’t make sense anymore so I fiddled with everything to make my eyes bleed

[who-can-touch-my-boob]

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Spoilers for Sylus’ new card: this is more of a theory/observation and me rambling. Posting it just so I can look back at it and maybe hear other’s opinion and theories about it.

When we traveled through the mist into “another world” and visit the dragon skeleton spot, Sylus talks about how when dragons die, flowers bloom around their remains. Which means that Sylus did not “die” like the dragon there did. He never left behind remains and whatever flowers left behind wittered into dust.

So this means that there’s a VERY high probability that Sylus is in fact not a reincarnation or reborn version of Dragon Sylus. He is still the same like I’ve always believed is the case. (When I finish my space Sylus myth, I will go in depth more on that).

Also Sylus said to mc that he can show her more places like this. Meaning what Sylus has been doing is tracking down every “mist portal” that leads to Philos and the dragon’s remains there. Is he searching for someone in particular? Maybe sorceress!MC’s remains after she turned into a dragon and “died”? (If she even left behind a body. I still can’t remember how her reincarnations work). If he is looking for her remains (assuming they exist in Philos, what’s he planning?).

Will we see in future cards Sylus continuing this search? I feel like it’s a HUGE thing that infold just casually dropped the fact that there’s portals that connects earth and Philos. They HAVE to dive deeper into this, because it could also affect the other LI’s lore/story onwards.

[o0par0o]

[solowinx]

everyone in the magic dimension has magical powers, including the specialists

a lot of fans tend to use harry potter/atla logic in winx club. in those universes not everyone owns magical powers, even though someone in the family does. i don't honestly think it's the case of winx club.

the magical dimension was created by the great dragon who brought life and magic. each planet in particular has their own magical power. so the entire universe is made of magic, right? then why should someone be powerless?? that's why i think everyone has magical powers, simply ppl don't want to use it. (they may attend normal high schools/universities instead of alfea) in general it doesn't make sense to call them humans since they weren't born on the earth. they are all aliens

big example are the specialists which is a weapons based squad. they aren't even actually completely useless in an universe of wizards and fairies! in fact they are pretty helpful in wildland episodes because winx girls can't transform. they are probably a special force, useful in anti-magic environments. so they decided not to use their magic to become good knights. in any case they need to be magical creatures since they can easily cross alfea's barrier (we should talk about this barrier anyway, since they don't deal with humans much who is it meant to be for?? i suppose some animals that aren't fairy animals, who knows)

in general winx club works differently from other magical worlds. in the most of fantasy books characters were born as witches or faries. instead in winx club ppl were born as magical creations who can decide how to use their magic. mirta in fact at first was a witch then she became a fairy.

to sum up winx club shouldn't be compared to other fantasy works because this universe works in a COMPLETELY different way

[ars-de-elysium]

I’m still working at finishing all the collectibles in Tape 1, but after replaying a majority of the scenes I figured it’s time for some of my Tape 2 Thoughts and Theories!! This will probably be updated after I play through a few more times to try out some of the different dialogue/choice options, so I’ll call this Part 1 for now!

Spoilers under the cut!

Most of my thoughts come from Present Day Swann and Co talking about the past, when they’re narrating over events from 1995, some of these are quick comments I believe were meant to slip under the radar while your attentions drawn elsewhere…

I’m really hoping to get better insight into Dylans character, its stated multiple times by Swann that if she knew everything that was going on that she may have spoken kinder of her (Depending on your dialogue choices,) and at first I assumed this to mean Kat’s Leukemia and trying to watch out for her sister, but after going through Corey’s things in his bike and reading the letter that she wrote him and the bruises on her face in the final scenes, I’m highly suspicious of Corey, but at the same time I think there’s more going on behind the scenes specifically with her family. Kat and Dylans parents sound extremely strict with multiple lines talking about the amount of trouble they’d be in simply being someplace they shouldn’t or even talking on the phone. Even Corey makes references to the girls parents and the punishment they’d face by not listening to them, yet not wanting to get in the middle of it himself.

And speaking of Corey, there’s another line of Dialogue given by Present Day Swann during the fight between all the girls and Corey at the Movie Palace/Ice Cream Shop. Autumn says that after things with Corey got worse, implying that we’ll see more of a conflict with him in Tape 2 given that the events at the Blue Spruce didn’t seem too different from other interactions with him. Tying that into one of the very first flashbacks we get while Swann is sitting in the car, I think that Corey will be our main antagonist in Tape 2, as the figure in the woods with the Wolf Mask shares some resemblance from the small bit we see of them- I also think that whatever event takes place with this character directly ties into something happening to the Mikaelsen Ranch. Autumn makes another comment about how Corey got blamed for ‘What Happened at the Ranch.’

The Mikaelsen Ranch seems to be the main attraction of Velvet Cove, with the Water Tower featuring Antlers that I assume connect to the towns obsession with the Deer Farm and Hunting. In the Present Day However, the Water Tower isn’t quite so glorious and Velvet Cove seems to not care about repairing it as other towns would for their prized attractions. While this could be an impact from the Abyss and it’s possible consequences, it could also be from Velvet Cove moving on from the ranch, the cork board outside of the Bar features one Pamphlet about the Ranch, but is otherwise covered in other events to experience in Velvet Cove, unfortunately the downfall of the Ranch could also be from the Mikaelsens grieving- (Which I don’t want to think about at all because I’m fully expecting Kat to walk into the Blue Spruce by the end of Tape 2. 😢) But we also know the Mikaelsen Ranch will be a major point of interest in Tape 2 as we see some event unfold possibly resulting in its Destruction, whatever happened it doesn’t seem like they were able to get it back to its former Glory and Velvet Cove appears to have moved on from its Deer Ranch Era.

And a fun little throwaway theory that I’m still playing around with is the connection between the Mining Article in the Blue Spruce and the Mining Letters/Mining Equipment left behind in Fawns Rest. The article mentions something about a bunch of Miners Missing from Copper Co. and people organizing a search for them, but based on what we found at Fawns Rest the Cabin could have belonged to one the Missing Miners, which begs the question did someone else find the Abyss before Swann and Co, or is the Abyss even a result of some Mining Accident gone wrong?

They’re’s probably a whole bunch of clues I’m missing in regard to any of my theories, and I still have some things to finish up in the game along with some dialogue options to try but regardless this game has me HOOKED. I can’t wait all the way until April 15, I need some answers now!! But for now, I’ll just have to settle with pouring everything into Tape 1 to search for some answers for now!!

[ourlittlepoet]

The girls, their names, and what I found interesting that im probably overthinking:

Autumn Lockhart:

"deer in the forest". Autumn is an odd one to me. now, here's the thing... the mikaelsen's are known for their deer hunting ranch. now, idk how it is in the UK, but deer hunting in america mostly falls on one season: fall/autumn.

it's also very interesting to me that in folklore, deers are seen as helpers/adversaries. they have a connection to the wild and the fae world... but they can also be malevolent. interesting, to say the least.

Nora Malakian:

"light" "angel/messenger" nora's not the only one of the girls whose name comes from angelic/holy origins. but, she IS the only one who isn't tied to... an animal of sorts. what with autumn being "lockhart" (deer), and kat being cat, and swann being....... swan?

(come back to this next part once u read Kat's).

i wanted to introduce Michael before introduced everyone to The Book of Malachi (aka: malaki, which is most of nora's surname). the book of malachi in the bible focuses on 1) stopping people from turning their backs on faith, 2) be faithful to the covenant.

i found it weird that for whatever reason, nora is the only one who goes with what kat wants without second thought. swann can decline the blood curse and so can autumn.

Kathryn Mikaelsen:

"pure" "the son of he who is like god" here's the funny thing about the name michael. just like malakian, the name is tethered to "god".

archangel michael was the angel who protected god against the devil. michael is considered the "bringer of justice" (ahem, a song about justice/vengance) and "the healer of the sick" (AHEM).

Swann Holloway:

we all know what swans symbolize on the surface. so, i dug a little deeper. and by deeper, i mean deeper...

"holy spring" "waters of the underworld" "swan lake"

the cabin is on a running SPRING OF WATER and swan is in it. remember the secret stash box? swann wrote a fic that had her in the water. on top of that, the book swann gives cat is called "willow CREEK".

as for swan LAKE, i just so happen to be a massive fan of this ballet, so let me put everyone on game.

do u remember the first conversation u had with your mother in the car? she was complaining that her friend carol didnt like the "tragic ending" to her story.

now to be perfectly honest? i have no idea if im reaching. but i am very much thinking.... maybe this is all connected? especially swann. i think swann's is... unfortunately accurate.

[mantis-yippee]

Sorry I've been kinda dead, been busy, as an apology, take the warm up I did of Autumn from Lost Records: Bloom and Rage, don't know it? You should.

I promise I'll actually post more soon and yes, S3 this April for Chaos Theory woo!

the Baldening returns tomorrow too okay bye

[ormymarius]

I don’t think the spring cards have to do with the afterlife of the boys + mc since they’re literally vlogging and honestly the afterlife theme is really only heavy in Caleb’s card… because he came back from the brink of death in the present timeline. let’s use our brains lads fandom.

[god-mouths]

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feeling blue are we

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[dragonnon]

| Susato was the Masked Disciple |

[thealexchen]

What do you think will happen in Tape 2? I think, based on the trailer and the reminiscing flashbacks, we're gonna do something to Corey's bike, by keying it, or choosing to do something worse, and then he'll burn the hideout as payback and cause a forest fire. I feel like we might get a choice that determines what happens to Corey. Like, do we save him, or let him die in the fire? Also, I'm curious what could be in the box. If it turns out to be a head, I am gonna scream.

I don't think it's a head!! 😂 It's the size of a shoebox and you can hear something small rattling around inside if you turn the box around. If anything, it might be Swann's VHS tapes of that summer or her old camcorder. I don't do a lot of theory crafting, so just bear with me here.

From the reveal trailer, we definitely know Fawn's Rest/Curse will sadly burn down at some point. The group in 2022 speaks about it in the past tense in a way that implies it's not there anymore, and Swann also implies she "lost" a lot of her sentimental items before she moved like they were destroyed instead of simply misplaced, and a lot of those items were in the cabin.

Given DN's track record (like Nathan and Victoria), Corey and Dylan are likely red herrings. This game might not have a main antagonist at all, with its pacing and smaller cast of characters. More likely, the fire could've been an accident, since there's a prominent fireplace in the cabin, and it spread into the forest.

Alternatively, Kat could start a fire at the ranch out of anger at her family-- maybe her beloved fawn Gertie was killed, or the Abyss is affecting her mental state. All the girls' eyes glow purple the day after they see and throw something into the Abyss, and it seems to be strengthened by anger and hate, given how the purple glow shows up on Corey's face and he seems to become physically hurt and feel threatened by them enough to leave the scene.

In the very beginning of the game, the girls are running for their lives from a person in a wolf mask. I think that's most likely Corey. If he's a red herring, either it's a prank gone wrong, or the Abyss is affecting him.

Some other theories I've seen mostly on Reddit:

You as Swann have to make some big choices during the fire, and her appearance in 2022 could be choice-determinant (a possible reason why all her 2022 scenes are in first-person. Like, maybe she has burn scars depending on your choices).

Kat is trapped in the Abyss and possibly still 16 years old. Either she jumped in herself, or the girls made some insane trade to keep her alive and healthy.

Kat is in the Abyss and that's why the group can't remember the summer of 1995 clearly

Swann got affected by the Abyss somehow and it altered her appearance or memories

Time travel/shadows theory: The freeze-frame shadows of various characters (discovered to be Swann, Corey, and Kat) are their characters across time. The person who says "Bloody Mary" back to Swann sounds a lot like... adult Swann. Could that be her stuck in a time loop or briefly sent back to 1995? Another example is in the last scene of Tape 1, when Swann, Nora, and Autumn in 2022 briefly see their teenage selves in the parking lot of The Blue Spruce the night of the concert. Swann looks down at the box, back up, and they're gone again. Stylistic choice, or did they actually see their past selves?

The fifth girl theory: Some Redditors have speculated that the Abyss affected the girls' memories to the extent that they forgot an entire additional person. The box says "I WAS THERE" and "REMEMBER 1995" and the game has a few odd moments where the camera is no longer behind Swann's shoulder but from the POV of someone else. Fake cameraman, or secret fifth girl? I don't think it's as likely for DN to introduce a whole new character at the end of the game when they put so much effort into characterizing the quartet, but it's fun to think about.

Kat sent the package across time

Or, Kat sent the package in the present day and is secretly alive

Dylan sent the package

Pam and Gus sent the package

Pam and Gus are the secret villains or they're involved with the supernatural happenings in Velvet Cove

The possible "fifth friend" sent the package

Nora isn't actually married anymore and she's putting on a front for how happy she seems (okay I know this one is much more lighthearted but I wanna see endgame canon sapphic middle-aged relationships! Please!!)

The game will not have a happy ending (it's Dontnod, but the game also opens with Swann either agreeing or not with her mom's take about happy endings at her book club)

Call me crazy but... I think the girls might be queer. But I'm not sure yet. /j

Thank you for asking!

[patroclus021]

I saw someone comment/post on tiktok that we never get a solid baseline for Will Grahams character bc when we first meet him in the show he's already experiencing the effects of consulting for the FBI and the first symptoms of encephalitis.

I cant find the creator but now all I can think about is how Alana is the only person in the show (including us as the viewers) who knew him before he started consulting and the encephalitis symptoms started, which means the strength of her concern is a good indication of how much Will Graham changed.

ALSO, the closest we get as the viewers to what Will Graham probably would've been like is in season three when he's married to Molly bc he wasn't consulting or aggravating his empathy and he wasn't being yoyo-ed by a serial killer.

[supyovalk]

Okay it's may come out of nowhere but... for the Don't nod fellas out there... I got a bloom & rage theory.

[SPOILERS FOR TAPE 1]

And it's simple- Kat is alive, and is the one who made the 2022 Bloom & Rage box.

EXHIBIT A - Cross-Reference Required Existence

Who in the hell could've both known about Bloom & Rage's existence AND know about Autumn's location? It's not either of the bullys, they barely had knowledge of Bloom or Rage, Autumn or the Abyss' events. Which only leaves Kat as the only reasonable answer.

EXHIBIT B - Reactivated Abyss

At the end of Tape 1, we seem to see the Abyss reactivating in 2022. Now assuming it was not a reaction from the girls returning, who the hell could've reactivated it? Obivously the one who made the pact, Kat.

Now how the hell Kat survived? Simple. Dylan's statement about having short to live was proven wrong. Diagnosis can be complex and even wrong, more so in 1995. Hell, there's a chance it's actually not Leukemia and some sort of Supernatural Illness.

[pepethejaba]

Silly AU about water star test for Stella - she loses her beaty with censor

The AU theory that Bloom and Valtor are relatives (Valtor was Marion's brother -we saw that Bloom's mother has brother in family tree in season 2) is my Roman Empire.

Season 3 would have been more dramatic if Bloom had to choose between her last living relative and the magical dimension. Also there wouldn't have been some strange arc with the enchantix reversal on willpower on Pyros.

So, my super cringe AU theory. Valtor was as the dragon flame keeper before Bloom because his older sister Marion was incompatible with the power. However, on Domino was tradition that the queen is the head of the planet and the bearer of the dragon power, so having a male Dragon flame bearer was not welcomed. When Marion gave birth her first daughter Daphne, counsul and part of royal family decided to use a ritual to remove the dragon flame from the current keeper and transfer it to the new keeper. A similar ritual was once used to extract the dragon's fire from one of the queens of Domino to transfer the power to her daughter, who led a political conspiracy against her mother - that queen did not survive because the power of the dragon's fire is tightly connected to the magic and life forces of its bearer.

Daphne could not become a full-fledged bearer of the dragon's flame, but as a nymph of Magix, she was able to become its keeper until Bloom was born, who was suitable as an ideal bearer in all respects. Valtor survived after the ritual (as a man he had a more life forces than that queen on whom the ritual was used before him) and retained part of the dragon's flame as part of his magic. Then he joins the Three Ancient Witches and begins to study dark magic for revenge against Domino. The using of dark magic and damage received after the ritual were negatively affects Valtor's condition and leads to the appearance of a demonic form in him. The Domino royal family and council tried to erase any mention of Marion's brother from history and spread a rumor that Valtor is not ever a human, but a creation of the Three Ancient Witches.

Because Valtor was once the bearer of the most powerful force, his desire for power in season 3 is quite reasonable. He still retains hatred for Domino and he definitely will hinder the planet's recovery, but does not have negative feelings towards Daphne and Bloom. Also Valtor feels some compassion for Bloom because she has the burden of responsibility as bearer of the dragon flame and if Domino ever recovers Bloom definitely loses the right to manage her life. Bloom is in doubt and can't decide how to feel about Valtor. He is enemy who destroyed her planet and possibly killed her parents, but also he is her uncle who was a victim to some extent.

[bluepebbled]

Something something - might be reading into it - but the fact that Swann is always/usually the one holding the light up for everyone else in the group. Does this tie into the fact she's the one that most fondly remembers their Summer? Was she the glue (besides Kat) that held the group together?

She was both the light and record keeper.

So, what would've happened if Swann hadn't recorded that red balloon?